Side Stories: Movie Stories IV

Summary

Last Podcast on the Left: Side Stories – Movie Stories IV (August 27, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this special summer movie edition, hosts Henry Zebrowski, Ed Larson, and Jackie Zebrowski dive deep into 2025’s biggest (and weirdest) horror, thriller, and adjacent films, reflecting on summer horror as a phenomenon, dissecting the year’s standout movies, and indulging in signature comic asides. They riff on the meaning of summer horror, what actually scares them, the emotional resonance (or lack thereof) of onscreen events, and the beauty of lowbrow and campy cinema. As always, personal tangents, absurdity, and questionable taste are front and center throughout the conversation.

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Main Themes and Purpose

• Celebration and critique of 2025’s summer horror movie releases
• Discussion of what makes a film a “summer horror” movie vs. just a horror movie released in the summer
• Tangents into favorite horror characters, canceled directors, low-budget schlock, and ongoing horror trends
• Debate about emotional impact in cinema, “good-bad” movies, and horror’s evolving future

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. What Is a Summer Horror Movie?

Timestamps: 10:06–11:10, 11:41–12:03

• The hosts debate whether a summer horror film is about the season when it’s released versus the vibe or setting ("movies that take place in the summer," "popcorn, hanging out, part of a cultural moment").
• Henry: “A summer horror movie…is a movie you’d want to watch in the summertime, like a tentpole sci-fi movie or a giant action movie…it’s way more about the popcorn and the hanging out and being a part of a cultural moment.” (10:50)

2. Standout Horror Releases of Summer 2025

Timestamps: 07:41–15:37

• The Monkey, Bring Her Back, 28 Years Later, Dangerous Animals, Companion, Final Destination: Bloodlines, Presence, Ugly Stepsister
• Each gets its moment and the hosts discuss strengths, weaknesses, vibes, and long-term legacy.
• On Dangerous Animals:
  • Jackie: “Jai Courtney is an amazing villain. I couldn’t take my eyes off of him. It was like, is he the shark?” (12:07–12:26)
  • Ed: “The best part…the sharks were not the bad guys.” (12:36)

3. 28 Years Later: Technical Achievement and Narrative

Timestamps: 15:38–17:08, 22:44–24:47

• Praise for Danny Boyle using iPhones to shoot, world-building, and subverting audience expectations with the Ray Fiennes character.
• Henry: “This whole…city of the dead…it kind of like I went to the catacombs in Paris…best part about it is the peace.” (23:25)
• Ed: “After the attack, [Ray Fiennes] is just like, ‘you should go.’” (24:36)

4. Weapons, The Monkey, and the Modern Folktale

Timestamps: 25:16–31:19

• Discussion of “Weapons” as a modern fairy tale about family, evil, and the vulnerability of children in classic suburbia—plus the allegory for alcoholism.
• Debate about the rules of movie magic, research in supernatural horror, and "less is more" with ritual scenes.
• Henry: “We finally have movies where…they’re no longer treating cell phones and the internet like it’s a fad. You can still figure out how to make it scary—not just ‘why didn’t they just call on the phone?’” (25:16)

5. The Quality of Magic in Horror: Research and Mystery

Timestamps: 32:01–34:18

• Henry: “My issue with Long Legs…when you just have someone blanketly say ‘Hail Satan’…it just shows no one’s done any research—and that’s my pet peeve…Misuse of pentagrams and witch paraphernalia.”
• Jackie: “If you’re going to do a movie including it, it’s just lazy not to do any [research].”
• Praise for “Bring Her Back” and “Weapons” for conveying mystery and ritual without over-explanation.

6. Genres, Reactions, and What Makes Horror Work

Timestamps: 36:15–38:36

• Ed and Henry debate whether a horror movie needs to be “scary” or if it’s enough for it be “upsetting.”
• Henry: “If it doesn’t scare you at some point, the horror movie could be considered a failure.”
• Ed: “Just making me upset is fine.”

7. Good-Bad Movies, Schlock, and Franchise Fatigue

Timestamps: 47:59–54:19

• The hosts roast “War of the Worlds” (2025, with Ice Cube) for astonishing incompetence and green-screen mishaps.
• Discussion about “The Room,” Tommy Wiseau, and why Ed hates cult-status “so bad it’s good” cinema.
• Henry: “The movie takes place on a computer screen.…Ice Cube plays the same character as ‘Are We There Yet?’ but he works for the NSA.”

8. Canceled Directors, Iconic Horror Killers, and the Summer Horror Canon

Timestamps: 60:07–65:21

• Reflection on separating art and artist, the legacy of Roman Polanski, and uncomfortable favorites like “Jeepers Creepers.”
• Ranking of horror icons: Freddy, Michael Myers, Art the Clown, Pinhead, Leprechaun, and others.
• Henry: “Freddy’s been my favorite horror character of all time.” (64:14)

9. Summer Comfort Movies & Anthology Picks

Timestamps: 67:05–70:40

• The group discusses the comfort of 90s/early 00s schlock and TV movies: “Ghost Ship,” “Bone Collector,” “Fallen,” a guilty defense of Stephen King mini-series.
• Praise for anthology horror in summer: “Creep Show,” “Body Bags,” “VHS,” etc.

10. What’s Next in Horror – Wishes, Trends, and Closing Thoughts

Timestamps: 68:13–71:16

• Ed plugs "Jaws" returning to IMAX (August 29, 2025), and hopes for more big-screen vampire movies.
• Jackie: “I’m always down for more vampires. Watching Lost Boys last night…Yes, I suck and I…and I suck and I…”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Emotional Resonance:

  • Jackie: “How did I get all of the emotions and you got none of them?” (06:22)
  • Henry (dryly): “I suffer in silence. You’d never know I had problems.” (06:43)

• On Movie Tropes:

  • Ed: “Whenever people have to cut themselves in a movie, they always slice their entire palm of their hand…the most impractical place on your body.” (29:18)

• Weapons’ Impact:

  • Jackie: “It’s genuinely funny. I love the darkly comedic moments of Weapons. What a fun theater experience.” (30:19)

• Roasting “War of the Worlds” (Ice Cube):

  • Henry: “You can see the green screen on his glasses…it’s so bad.” (49:53)
  • Ed: “Just because you made a movie during COVID doesn’t mean you gotta release it.” (53:01)
  • Henry (on watching so-bad-they’re-good films): “This is how they make their money.”

• Legacy of Offenders:

  • Henry: “Roman Polanski is kind of indispensable in terms of being a sex criminal and artist…” (60:30)

• Horror Icons, Ranked:

  • Henry: “It’s Freddy and Pinhead…number three? Leprechaun—because of Warwick Davis.” (64:43)

• Favorite Anthology:

  • Henry: “Creep Show—the Creep Show movies are amazing. I love Body Bags.” (70:06)

• Anticipation for More Vampires:

  • Jackie: “I’m always down for more vampires. I suck and I...and I suck and I…” (68:49)

• On “Tales From the Hood”:

  • Henry: “It’s not a party movie...I have tossed it on a couple times in a party…Makes people really bummed out.” (61:41)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment Description | Timestamps | | -------------------------------------- | ------------------ | | Defining Summer Horror Movies | 10:06–11:10 | | Summer 2025 Movie Rundown | 07:41–15:37 | | The Monkey, Bring Her Back Discussion | 25:16–31:19 | | Emotional Tangents & TV vs. Movies | 05:06–06:43 | | 28 Years Later Analysis | 15:38–17:08, 22:44–24:47 | | Rituals & Supernatural in Horror | 32:01–34:18 | | Megan 2.0, Franchise Fatigue | 47:59–48:49 | | Canceled Directors & the Canon | 60:07–65:21 | | Anthology and Comfort Horror Picks | 67:05–70:40 | | Thoughts on Vampires, Jaws, and the Future | 68:13–71:16 |

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Additional Highlights

• Jackie’s new adult choir, grief, and shared musical moment on “I Wanna Dance With Somebody” (03:20–04:49)
• Ed’s boat memories and discussion about the “most dangerous animal: man” (14:33–15:15)
• Long-form, hilarious roasting of “War of the Worlds” (Ice Cube, green screen, NSA dad) (47:59–54:19)
• Ongoing shout-outs to horror personalities, old TV shows, and camp classics.
• Spirited debate about the best horror franchises and their entries, with hot takes on Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and more.

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Conclusion

“Side Stories: Movie Stories IV” is a freewheeling, knowledgeable, and irreverent ride through 2025’s summer horror landscape. The episode is peppered with sharp humor, arguments about genre definitions, and genuine affection for the medium’s classics, oddities, and future. With memorable riffs from the hosts and sharp insight into the evolution of horror, it’s both a celebration and a roast of the movies of the moment.

End with:
Jackie (on anthology horror): “I love anthologies…Body Bags is great…all of the VHS's. I’ve watched all the holes.” (70:07)

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*For horror fans, pop culture obsessives, and the horror-movie-curious alike, this episode is a must-listen to know what’s hot, what’s weird, and what’s just so-bad-it’s-good in summer 2025.

Transcript

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[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Jackie]

Casual.

[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Ed Larson]

Wrong.

[Jackie]

Chapel.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Wrong. No, but if you sing it in a deep man's voice, you're in the passenger seat and read me out. Is it casual now? Is it casual?

[Ed Larson]

Hey there, little lady. If you like to eat me out.

[Henry Zabrowski]

In the passenger seat. On your knees. I'm a 41 year old divorced man and I'm gonna need tuck into this old hole, little girl, because I'm on my way to the Pink Pony Club. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

I haven't cleaned back there in a while. I want to get in there.

[Jackie]

Gotta start scraping it.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I would put some degreaser on your tongue before you get in there.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Just cut some of the film. Because I've been at the Pink Pony Club for two weeks and I ain't had a bait.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. The best part about shitting lard is you don't have to push.

[Jackie]

Oh my God.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Tell me about it.

[Ed Larson]

Know.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. Name Chapel Ro. Welcome to side Stories. It's a special summer movie edition. E. Disgusting. Get me out of here. My name is Henry Zabowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson. And I'm sitting here with the surprisingly feminine Jackie Zabrowski.

[Jackie]

Thank you. Yeah. Even just it's only for today, though. I only really bring it out. I want to bring out that X quality about me. Do you feel it?

[Henry Zabrowski]

I do feel. Do you feel it? I'm immune.

[Ed Larson]

Do you have a deeper voice than both of us?

[Jackie]

Yeah, I think so.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That scene is a passenger scene. And she's eating me.

[Jackie]

You wait until I am in the choir with your wife.

[Ed Larson]

Are you?

[Jackie]

Yeah, baby. I'm an alto. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Can you actually. Before we begin, can you sing one line? This is true. Jackie has been semi attending a local adults. Women.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Whoa.

[Ed Larson]

You're in the choir?

[Jackie]

I mean, we are going to have a performance. Yeah. Henry, you will be coming.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You needed this added to the schedule.

[Ed Larson]

Henry doesn't have to come. We have a show that night.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, sorry.

[Jackie]

I think that you're going to be canceling it because it's my first choir performance.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Let's show up for the second one.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

See, because you'll get. You're not getting better. Yeah, but I would like for it. So just for. For your knowledge, Jackie has joined an adult choir because she's broken and lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

Y grief does weird things to people.

[Henry Zabrowski]

If you could sing a little sample of your section. What songs are you singing right now?

[Jackie]

Well, we haven't started our next, like, session yet.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The last one.

[Ed Larson]

I want to dance with somebody yes.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, I want to do it. No, let Jackie first do it and then add and then harmonize.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Oh, I want to dance with somebody I want to feel the heat with somebody yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I want to dance with somebody I.

[Ed Larson]

Know Julie was a little high.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Somebody who love me well, she was.

[Jackie]

She's a different part.

[Ed Larson]

She's an alto.

[Henry Zabrowski]

She.

[Jackie]

She's a different part.

[Ed Larson]

I want to dance with somebody I want to feel the heat with somebody Okay, a little.

[Jackie]

You got to take it up.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You got to take it up with somebody.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, a little. I. Well, I don't know. That was more.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You're just saying it different. But it's not a different note. With somebody who loves me.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, you're soprano.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Jackie]

Yeah. He's like a little bird.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yep. Tweet, tweet.

[Jackie]

You know what? Henry and I will. I am gonna put you on blast here. And I'm so glad that you've given me this platform today, because yesterday, man, I was sad. Because maybe I'm watching Buffy, and maybe something sad's going on in Buffy that might be similar to something that we have experienced in the last few months. And I was talking to Henry about it last night, and I was sad about it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's what I said.

[Jackie]

No, but it's her mother. She's the Slayer and she has a mother. And I was sad. And Henry literally went, yeah, sad. Because the fake people have a fake sad.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I didn't say it in that way. I just said. I know. I said, oh, you're sad about things aren't real. I was like, it's not real, though.

[Jackie]

I was like, I'm trying to connect with you. I'm trying to emotionally connect with you for a moment.

[Ed Larson]

But again, call me Jackie.

[Jackie]

I know. What am I doing?

[Henry Zabrowski]

I'm nice.

[Ed Larson]

I understand emotion, you know?

[Henry Zabrowski]

See, I understand the real emotions, the real things. Emotion. Every day, I am.

[Ed Larson]

Anytime I tell you a secret, it goes into this microphone.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Of course, that's different. Your secrets are funny, Your secrets are embarrassing, and they're good against you. The difference is that Jackie.

[Jackie]

Nightmare.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Jackie's trying to explain things about. I was just like, they're TV people.

[Jackie]

How did I get all of the emotions and you got none of them?

[Henry Zabrowski]

I got some.

[Ed Larson]

You're the anger. You're the Italian, and he's the polo.

[Jackie]

That's what it is.

[Ed Larson]

Italians are very emotional.

[Jackie]

I suffer.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I suffer in silence.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I know.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, you do?

[Jackie]

Oh, he's.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh.

[Jackie]

Is it silence that we're getting?

[Henry Zabrowski]

That we're all.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. We all know how quiet Henry is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I suffer in silence. You'd never know. I had problems.

[Jackie]

Never complaining. Never a peep from him.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But we're not here today to discuss this. We're here today to discuss summer movies.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Horror movies, that is.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And some of our favorite ones at that. And this year, I will say, has been quite the banner year for summer horror.

[Jackie]

It certainly has been.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This has been one of the best years, I would say, in record, for continuous horror releases.

[Ed Larson]

It is pretty crazy how good it is. Like hit after hit after hit. This probably the best year of my life, actually, for.

[Jackie]

Not for anything else.

[Ed Larson]

Actually, my life's been great.

[Jackie]

Okay. That's good.

[Henry Zabrowski]

All right. We're doing.

[Ed Larson]

We're crushing. Yeah. Yeah. My life's right on the money.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

I want to go see Herbie Hancock tonight. Like, I'm doing great.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. The car.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

See? But great.

[Jackie]

Thank you. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This is just a brief list of the movies that have come out this summer that were all, like, at least good weapons. The Monkey bring her back 28 years later. Dangerous Animals. Yeah. Companion. I'm not putting.

[Jackie]

How dare you say it. You must say it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I have to. Because we work with them. Final Destination, Bloodlines.

[Jackie]

Why do you like that? It's Final Destination. They're all fun. It is stupid.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It is utterly fine.

[Ed Larson]

It was fine.

[Jackie]

It's stupid for a reason.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Presence is very good.

[Ed Larson]

Presence was awesome.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I loved.

[Ed Larson]

Presence is gonna have of all. Not. Not maybe of all these movies. I feel like Presence is going to be around forever.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, the one I actually do think it's going to haunt people more and more is the Ugly Stepsister.

[Jackie]

It might not be your thing.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And of course the big tent pole movie of the entire year.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But these guys like, each one of these is extremely good. The Ugly Stepsister I'll even start with because I would not even necessarily consider the Ugly Stepsister a summer horror film.

[Jackie]

Well, it's a fairy tale. Well, it's a folk horror. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And it's with folk horror. I like it in the fall.

[Jackie]

I honestly, Henry. One of the only movies, one of the only horror movies this summer that I didn't get to see that apparently is very good is called Sever Third sun and it's a folk horror. But I was like, I want to wait until 31. For 31.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. I didn't see it because again, same.

[Jackie]

I want to wait for the fall.

[Ed Larson]

I never even heard of it.

[Jackie]

It's. It's.

[Ed Larson]

What is it?

[Jackie]

Smaller one?

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's folk. It's full.

[Ed Larson]

Like Pete Seeger.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it is. It's about fear and paranoia spread in an isolated religious community when a mysterious beast with shimmering white eyes embarks on a bloody rampage.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This is my only thing. The only reason why I have to watch it is because I have been assuming that it might be boring. And I'm not ready for it to be boring.

[Jackie]

I don't think any of it's boring.

[Ed Larson]

Boring is like where you get me.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

It's the 4.9. I like boring.

[Jackie]

That's why Hagazusa, bro. You know, it's like. This is what I'm saying.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, he's. Never again. We're talking about these.

[Jackie]

Sorry. I'm sorry. We're not talking about summer movies.

[Henry Zabrowski]

These are all fall films. All right, so as a fall movie it is.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Why is that?

[Jackie]

Cuz you fall down, you go, oh, God, it's so good.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Takes place in a cold forest.

[Jackie]

Yeah, you want to be cold. You want to be eating a stew.

[Ed Larson]

Now, when you say summer horror movies, are we talking about horror movies that came out this summer or are we talking about, like movies that take place in the summer?

[Jackie]

Lost Boys?

[Henry Zabrowski]

I actually think that this is a fun debatable topic because I think it is either. But the time of year that the movie takes place in. Yeah, but sometimes it's a summer horror movie to me is not necessarily a summer horror movie. I know that's ridiculous. Yeah. But like mid summer. That is the most summer you'd say that. Well, I find if I was to put summer. When I think of a summer horror film.

[Ed Larson]

Summer, yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But I actually like, this is. Again, this is just my opinion.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But this concept of the. A movie you'd want to watch in the summertime, like a movie that to me it's like a tent pole sci fi movie or a giant action movie where they say there's a vibe to it that's way more about the popcorn and the hanging out and being a part of a cultural moment.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

So like, yeah, it's a superhero movie kind of.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Kind of. But you like Midsommar, to me was a. It's a folk horror. It's an amazing folk horror. It's really good. It's. It's actually kind of a by the numbers folk horror.

[Ed Larson]

You know what I liked about Midsommar so much is that it, like, it's one of the horror movies that's like mostly takes place like in the daytime.

[Jackie]

So I think that's why, you know what I mean, in the winter, because of the such a contrast in watching Midsommar. But then you're. It's cold outside, it's all dark, but it's so bright and it makes it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So much more upsetting like summer horror movie. The first one that hits me, all this whole list besides Jaws is date. Well, that's the dull one.

[Ed Larson]

That's Jaws is. Yeah. Fourth of July. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But Dangerous Animals of this year was.

[Jackie]

Yeah, man, Dangerous Animals was fun.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I was so surprised at how good it was. Jai Courtney is an amazing villain.

[Ed Larson]

He was terrified.

[Jackie]

He really was.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's the type of villain that I'm not normally that even into the idea of the cocky, semi funny idiot. Yes. Like he's like a bro. He's a jock villain.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But he, he's great.

[Jackie]

He's. I couldn't take my eyes off of him. It really felt. It was like, is he the shark?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Jackie may have hit something because it's more about, oh, does a man who use sharks their weapon? Is he more dangerous? Not the shark themselves.

[Ed Larson]

That's one of the things I really did love about the movie is that the sharks as a shark lover were not the bad guys.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, they were Just.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. And then they were a sickle, you know, I did.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I called it.

[Ed Larson]

What do you mean?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Remember, in the middle of the movie.

[Ed Larson]

What, she's gonna eat her thumb off?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, was the idea of, like, the shark. Well, spoilers.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. I mean, of course we're talking about movies. We can't control ourselves.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The shark's gonna feel guilty. That's the whole. The whole thing of the movie hinges on the fact that the very, very.

[Ed Larson]

End that the shark.

[Jackie]

It's the ultimate shame.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It changes its mind.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

What if I don't eat these?

[Ed Larson]

And it's the best part of the.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Movie because all you just rolled by.

[Ed Larson]

I was like, you're cute. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He just is like, you know what?

[Jackie]

I'm not even that hungry.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But it's like. It's just such a. But otherwise, the mechanism of the movie was great. It's an entire movie that could have been called. The implication, do you think, from Always Sunny?

[Ed Larson]

Oh, I don't know.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know that thing with Always Sunny? It's like the bit where it's like Dennis talks about how he's like, you always want to take women out on a boat. Like on the first date, you want to take them out on a boat because they're out in the water. It's just like, you know, you're all the way out here, you know, and it's not like you're gonna do anything, but it's the implication. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

You want to go on my boat, you know?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. Remember we did that story recently about hippies getting on a boat? Like this idea of. In David Parker Ray, that they would go and take a big old boat fun ride where they would on the boat, and he'd be like, there's where bodies right there. And I put a body right there, and they're all like, david, you're funny. You're funny guy.

[Jackie]

Put a yacht on it, man. I'd do anything to get on one.

[Ed Larson]

I love to get a boat break all the time. Don't worry.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know what they say is the two worst days, the two best days of your life.

[Ed Larson]

The day you buy a boat, the day you sell a boat. Because.

[Jackie]

Yeah, we've heard this. Yeah, we're from Florida, Henry.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Have you heard a little thing about that? Everything by barely.

[Ed Larson]

My buddy. My buddy's dad built an arena. And so like, part of like the. Part of like the. Thank you for building the arena.

[Jackie]

Shark arena.

[Ed Larson]

No, no, no.

[Henry Zabrowski]

A marina.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, a marina. I'm sorry, did I say arena?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Dan.

[Jackie]

Marina.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Is this his sister? Dan Marina.

[Ed Larson]

So he built the marina. And then as like a thank you, they gave him a speedboat. And so we used to, like, skip school and take it out sometimes. And, like. But we were so stupid, we didn't.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Know what we're doing.

[Ed Larson]

So we put a bunch of glass in the bottom. And so one time, like, Corona bottles. And so they all broke in the hull and we had to, like, cut up, clean it up so his dad wouldn't find out.

[Jackie]

Oh, God. I just imagine you all was, like, kind of drunk.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And again, it shows that the most dangerous animal of all. So I feel like dangerous animals was great. Another one in this list that immediately jumps ahead of the rest of them in terms of summer horror movie is 28 years later, but it has, like, a blockbuster.

[Jackie]

Yes, yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's, like, true to form. Coming. He's coming back.

[Ed Larson]

Because it's kind of chilly in the movie, right?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. And. But the movie. There's something about the fact that Danny Boyle has come back full power. Yeah. Like, that movie was shot on a goddamn iPhone 16.

[Ed Larson]

A bunch of iPhones.

[Jackie]

Really insane. And also, I mean, also with like.

[Henry Zabrowski]

$30,000 filters on Midlands.

[Jackie]

I went into it not knowing that it was opening up the world for more movies afterwards.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So I went into it thinking that it was going to be a standalone. So as it got closer to the end.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Because it's a trilogy. Because next one's going to follow somebody else and the other one's going to follow Ray.

[Jackie]

Fine character, you know, And. And, man, I was just finding out weird about Ray Fines yesterday, which I didn't know about. But we're not going to get into.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, please, this is the time I was.

[Jackie]

I need to look further into it.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Jackie]

But it was like the gations. And. No, it's not. Well, it is semi. There have been kind of semi gations in the past, even though he has said that he was the victim. But here's the thing. Everyone's like. Everybody knows that somebody in Hollywood loves to get. Like, he has to get sucked off before every single play performance he does. But here's the thing. I believe that he is paying sex workers to do this. So what's the fucking problem if he's. If he's got to get his nut off? I mean, it's consensual. I feel like it's like. It's not like he's creating jobs. I feel like, you know, yes. The Mile High Club incident. But then he blamed. That's not the flight attendant yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But also in the end. Yeah, of course she did. Because he couldn't keep his hand.

[Jackie]

But also, it's all the defense of jk. We're only.

[Ed Larson]

Sticking up for his.

[Jackie]

His boy at this point. She should go in the trash.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, yeah. Honestly, as far as I'm concerned, I.

[Ed Larson]

Never liked any of the.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think it all could be flushed out the goddamn.

[Jackie]

And the fact that they're making another one. They're making another television series.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Now we're. Now we're just in your. People say that I'm. People say that I'm the angry one.

[Jackie]

Look at me.

[Ed Larson]

Look.

[Jackie]

Look at how chill I am.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They say that I'm the angry one, but never.

[Jackie]

I've never been upset in my life. Look at how I think Ray Fiennes.

[Ed Larson]

Is slowly turning into Ben Kingsley.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Why he's turning Indian.

[Jackie]

God joke.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Ben Kingsley's half Indian.

[Ed Larson]

Is he?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, I thought he was all British.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I thought. No, well, technically.

[Jackie]

Well, I think there's some overlap there.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, it's unfortunately, yeah. Ben Kingsley. That's how he got away with playing Gandhi. That's how he got way.

[Ed Larson]

I thought it was just the 80s and no one gave a.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, no, no, no, no. That's how I got away with it.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Sorry. You know what is another quintessential one Texas Chainsaw Massacre of all time.

[Ed Larson]

It's coming back in the theater soon.

[Jackie]

It's coming and I want to see it in the theater because. Talk about sweaty movie. Because you've ever looked into, like, the trivia of how they made all that. Speaking of, like, just slapped them a.

[Ed Larson]

Bunch till they cried?

[Jackie]

Well, no, they had a. I mean, kind of. But they also used a bunch of real rotting meat.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So it was just.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Just so there was flies everywhere and.

[Jackie]

It'S just so sweet.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They didn't do it for artistic reasons, Jackie. They did it because they had no money.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And they did it because they just had guts. Do you remember when butcher. We talked about. I forgot where we were. Where. We were talking about how when we did the murder. Fist the butt wise stuff. But when we went and bought the. We thought that I. It would. You'd have to use real intestines to make it look realistic on camera. And so we went and bought a bunch of pig intestines from the butcher, leaving, like, awful from the big. And then we jammed it inside my.

[Ed Larson]

My.

[Henry Zabrowski]

My Santa suit and then we split it open and then we ruined the entire floor of the living room and stuff because we thought that it should look A certain way. But then the intestines look so different than what you think intestines look like. Then it literally.

[Ed Larson]

We should have just looked like slop.

[Jackie]

But we learned nothing, Henry, because we did that the same exact way when we did the monkey sketch.

[Ed Larson]

Those intestines, those were. Those were man made. Those were very nice intestines.

[Jackie]

There were some other stuff, and they.

[Ed Larson]

Were sticky for sure. You were covered in flies. They made your suit their home.

[Jackie]

Horse flies got all inside of the suit.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Your best performance yet.

[Jackie]

Thank you. Thank you. I'm never going to top it. Honestly. Put me in Dangerous Animals. I feel like. Next up.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, you'd be thrashing too much.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

What?

[Henry Zabrowski]

You'd be monkey. I honestly think Congo too.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

If you were in Dangerous Animals, you'd scare the sharks away.

[Jackie]

Why? Because I'm so nice.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You're too thrashy.

[Jackie]

Oh.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And I honestly just. I just think you have a hard.

[Jackie]

They love that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think you have a hard time getting on the hook.

[Jackie]

Catch me.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Come up.

[Jackie]

I'm always covered. Get on the hook. Come on in.

[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Jackie]

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[Jackie]

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Only pay for what you [e-mail] Liberty Liberty Liberty. Liberty Savings. Very unwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company and affiliates. Excludes Massachusetts. So 28 years later also has one of my favorite non twists in a movie where they do the fun thing of setting up what seems to be some big, horrible confrontation and then I actually thought subverted it in a way that really made me surprised and happy. I'm basically talking about spoiler. The ray finds like, the reveal of his character. It's like one of my favorite parts of this movie because it has like.

[Ed Larson]

A sweet message behind it. Like, get to know your neighbors.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And the concept and the idea of Memento Mori and how this idea of which I think, who knows? I wonder if Danny Boyle even knows that he was even kind of even stringing that in. I'm certain that he did. Like this. This idea of no, remember the dead. Like, now that the dead live, we forgot about what happens when the living die. So now this is a celebration of the still dead. And like he does the. This whole, like it's a city of the dead. And that's kind. There was like a. He understood something. It kind of like I went to the catacombs in Paris. Yes. And there's like when you go down there, the best part about it is the peace. Whoa. The silence.

[Ed Larson]

Wow. It is quiet.

[Jackie]

I. I bet he would have been really upset if they had showed up. Like when he was only like a third of the way done with his tower.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Come back when he was just drawing pictures of it.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

When he just had five skulls.

[Jackie]

I've got like a lot of ideas. Don't just come back.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Please don't look at my skulls.

[Jackie]

It's just the begin.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Just listen. Just think about how Big. Your head is. Imagine. That's like. That's how the character I've created for Ray finds. I just imagine. Hey, look, let me look at that head.

[Jackie]

It's exactly how he did it. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

My favorite part about Ralph Fiennes in that movie is, like, after, like, you know, we're, you know, we're talking about the end of the movie, but, like, when he. When he's just, like, looking at the kid, like, after the attack, and he's like, you should go.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Get out of here.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But also, I just like the fact that he wasn't a suspect. Psychopath. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

I thought it was a beautiful misdirect.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. So that's a very good. That's a very, very good summer movie. I think another candidate for probably. I mean, it's going to come up a lot for best summer movie of 2025 is weapons. Yes.

[Ed Larson]

Another fairy tale.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, Another fairy tale.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Distinctly different than a folk story.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I. I find. Because in folk horror, I feel that the main element is that you're away from society. Right. So what Weapons did really well, what the monkey did really well, which I think Osgood Perkins is doing really well across the board as well, is creating the first modern. Like, I'm starting, like, Natalie and I were talking about this. It's like we're finally in the zone of movies where people are no longer, like, treating cell phones in the Internet like it's a fad. Like, we're finally in modern times where all of the modern stuff is in the movies and that you can still figure out how to make it, not just, like, why didn't you just call him on the phone?

[Jackie]

Right. You know, and also the fact of, like, a witch being able to find a family to prey on. Like, you would think that. Or.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We asked Zach Kreger himself.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And he would not answer because I asked one of my questions was, are they actually.

[Jackie]

Are they actually related? Because she didn't remember.

[Henry Zabrowski]

She went.

[Jackie]

Did you shake up? Did you go through the camera?

[Ed Larson]

The kid didn't seem like he knew.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Right.

[Ed Larson]

He knew her.

[Jackie]

But the. And also the mom had said, like, I. Like, oh, oh, I haven't seen her since, like, I was a kid. So I feel like it was something that was, like, magicked into her brain.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Then the father said something along the lines, you haven't seen her in 15 years. Which was another, like, number that jumped out of nowhere. And they kind of said it, and she acted it all like. Like. Because it sounds like she had occupied the body of her former aunt. That's the reason why, when she arrived, it wasn't that scary. But then the reason why Aunt Gladys had all the makeup all over her face is that she was trying to approximate being a human, but that was. She was riding around in her aunt's body. That's my take on the lore.

[Ed Larson]

So what? So it's. It's just like a traveling witch soul.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's like. Yes. It's like an.

[Jackie]

Using bodies.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. It's an entity. But the. What I loved about weapons also was that the part of the summer part of it is that Stephen King kids are deeply vulnerable. Feeling, like, the idea of, like. Because it takes place in a neighborhood that we think back on in our own childhoods about the idea of, like, playing out until the lights went out. Like, playing until you. You went until the sun came down. Like, meeting all the fun kids, getting on their, like, semi serious kid adventures.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know, well, that's what it is.

[Jackie]

I think it's also expanding the world of, like, a child has a whole insular world.

[Ed Larson]

Kid adventure. No, you don't just walked in a basement staring into nothing.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It depends on your type of. I can literally make anything an adventure.

[Jackie]

It is a journey for that kid, though, of, like, what that kid went through, because it is the kind of thing where, you know, so many dangerous, horrible things do happen within, like, suburbs. And I think it's also playing on that when people are like, well, why didn't the kids say anything? It's like, he terrified. Like, if I was a kid, I wouldn't have said anything.

[Ed Larson]

I die for my parents.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like, I wouldn't have done that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And then straight up, Zach Kreger said that it was all. There was an allegorical thing within it about what it's like to live with alcoholism.

[Jackie]

When he said, makes complete sense.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This idea of this thing comes into your house. Dad, mom used to be normal.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And then all of a sudden, the sting comes. Everybody's different. I don't know how to accurately describe it to anybody because it doesn't maybe necessarily make any sense.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know, like, I don't.

[Jackie]

Scary and different. And it's like, you don't know if other kids also deal with that. And, well, you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They all. But then you turn out they're all secretly dealing with it because they're all in the basement.

[Ed Larson]

There's a movie trope that was in Weapons. It's been in a lot of movies. It was an. It. It's in a lot. It's not Just horror movies. It's a movie trope. Rope. That has always bothered me. All right. Whenever people have to cut themselves in a movie, they always slice their entire palm of their hand.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I have joked about this multiple times.

[Ed Larson]

The most impractical place on your body.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

You gotta use your hand, especially when you're fighting to the death.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You're, like, just about to go on a big mission. Don't you want full use of your palm? Yes, Exactly.

[Ed Larson]

Drive me crazy.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Ed Larson]

Blood brothers. Like, we could just cut our arms and, like, lean against each other.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, dude.

[Ed Larson]

It always makes me so mad.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Prick your finger. Even pricking your finger up, it's like. Just like that. Got to be so much blood.

[Ed Larson]

Elbow.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's a filthy knife.

[Ed Larson]

You killed someone with that knife. Now you're cutting your hand with you, man.

[Jackie]

Hell yeah, bro.

[Ed Larson]

Drives me nuts every time.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's the reason why we. They. I feel like that's why they've been cutting it out, man.

[Ed Larson]

Well, I mean, that's what the. I mean, mean, the witch, she doesn't, you know, I guess nothing matters for her.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No.

[Jackie]

Yeah, right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, for her, you know, well, she turns out she can go a step too far. And it's one of my favorite endings in a movie all year. Oh, yeah, it is.

[Jackie]

It's genuinely funny. I love, like. I love the darkly comedic moments of Weapons. It really just. It made a. What a fun theater experience.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And I think that's what makes a summer.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Horror movie.

[Ed Larson]

People cheering.

[Jackie]

Yeah, all of it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Like, the monkey. Monkey.

[Ed Larson]

Monkey was awesome. Came out in the summer.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. But the monkey blew my mind. The monkey was way better than it had any. Right. Being Osgood Perkins is also just kind of like, printing movies out.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He's made like, three in the last year, so. And. But I think that he did long.

[Ed Larson]

Legs and what else?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Long legs. There's another one.

[Jackie]

Keeper. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Keepers coming. Keeper looks good. But the monkey was. I thought the monkey was much better.

[Jackie]

Realize he did the Black Coat's Daughter.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Black Coat's Daughter is one of the best movies the last 20 years.

[Jackie]

That was also Oz Perkins.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. That was the thing. Black Goat's Daughter was, I think, way better than Long Legs.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Way better. And then.

[Jackie]

And so was. I mean, the monkey was just wonderful.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I've got my long legs on. I think that's what I did love about weapons. And what I love about weapons is.

[Ed Larson]

That me and Henry like it too much, obviously.

[Jackie]

I feel like they. There wasn't enough of the long legs in Long Legs and That's what weapons gave you. It gave me more. I wanted to see more of the creepy character.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's funny that you even say that. I actually think long legs gave us too much long legs.

[Jackie]

Oh, I wanted even more this. Squirt it all over it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

My issue with long legs will be my issue with anything that involves magic or. Or any of that stuff.

[Jackie]

I want to just watch him cook.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The problem is is that when you just have someone just kind of like blanketly just say like Hail Satan and stuff like it should. To me it shows that no one's done any.

[Jackie]

Any research.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Any research. And I feel like. And that that's like. That's like. That's my. One of my pet peeves.

[Jackie]

I understand.

[Henry Zabrowski]

One of my big pet peeves is misuse of pentagrams and misuse of witch paraphernalia in film. And like, like that's why like with Zack Kreger.

[Ed Larson]

Cuz you think people are like going to see that and think you're evil.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, I, no, I think that they just. Incorrect. Just not how. It just doesn't. It's not.

[Jackie]

It's just obviously not doing the research.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It just makes me immediately not scared anymore. I mean like, oh well, you have no idea what you're talking about anymore. We're like weapons. The reason why it's so successful is because the magic, the magic in it is indecipherable and nobody really talks about like Bring her back. What. What's awesome about Bring Her Back is what they don't explain and the fact that they only have to show you snippets of the ritual for you to kind of understand what's happening and you don't have to over explain it.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, Bring her back.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Use an actual demonic name. Something that was like they went the step ahead and did the proper research.

[Ed Larson]

They googled.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They did all of the stuff that they should have done. The Philippines.

[Jackie]

Take much honestly to figure out more than what like you're right and I completely agree with you of like at that point it's like. It's almost like if you're going to do a movie, including it, it's just lazy not to do any. If you're going to include it sat.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It doesn't give the powers of putting the souls of children in ventriloquist dummies that you have to leave places. Like that's where Long Legs lost me was once it got into all the, the, the steps that he had to.

[Ed Larson]

Do that was like what? That was Long Legs big fault when you Over Explain the exactly.

[Jackie]

Give me almost nothing. That's what I loved about weapons that even with the ritual they showed parts of the ritual. But I like that even the parts that were shown make sense in ritualistic magic of like the inclusion blood like.

[Ed Larson]

And the kid was able to understand it in two seconds.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Exactly. And Bring Her Back is also a great example of mystery and how much mystery brings to the table and how we just don't need every single detail.

[Jackie]

No. And my problem is that every time I think of Bring Her Back I sing Bring Her Back from Le Miz. Don't look at me like that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, I just didn't know. Let him live. The arg thing is so cool. Oh I know. Yeah. Bring Her Back and all these.

[Ed Larson]

The.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The. They created their own fake Russian like ebay. Black. Black angel tapes.net yeah. Can you buy stuff from them there? It says that bids are paused right now due to popularity. It's cool cuz they have the Talk to me Hand has a little backstory on here. Yeah. They have like the tape. They have the tape from that that she was watching in order to. To for her to like put together the ritual. Like it's fun. See it's. This is all building the lore out right now. They're looking for the head hand.

[Jackie]

That's hand. It's wanted.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And there's footage of it the last time that it was seen. That's awesome.

[Ed Larson]

That's really cool.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And there was an incident. No Philo Brothers, they got that on walk.

[Ed Larson]

They know what they're doing. They got the.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They know what's going on.

[Ed Larson]

Oh man. So this year obviously we're loving it. There's some good stuff coming out soon. Him look I feel like looks very good. He the football horror movie, you know.

[Jackie]

Yeah, that does look fun.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think that it should be interesting because there's been a couple of of I'm trying to think. Well, Devil's advocate was a lawyer based.

[Jackie]

Devil horror KE Reeves out. But wait, are they redoing it?

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, no, no, no. He just got you jumping from one foot to the next and he's laughing his s clocking ass off because God is a scientist.

[Ed Larson]

Freshman year that was my birthday party.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yay.

[Jackie]

Henry screaming that.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I wish we would have just kicked his little ass.

[Henry Zabrowski]

His little 13 year old aloha. No, I love that movie. No, I. I think that this should be good. But again, will they be able to make a Faustian tail scary? I hope they can.

[Jackie]

I'll watch it. I definitely watch them try to do It. That's for damn sure.

[Ed Larson]

Think about a horror movie. Has to be scary for me to like it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

See, I find that that is.

[Ed Larson]

I wasn't scared of weapons.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Well, the view is.

[Ed Larson]

But there's a difference as like an action movie almost.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But you know what? I would say there's a distinct difference between scary, dreadful, disgusting.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Disconcerting. It depends on what the level is. Like Upsetting weapons straight up has one of the best jump scares in the entire year.

[Ed Larson]

Which one?

[Henry Zabrowski]

When it cuts to the ceiling.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, that's. That's old hats.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, but dude, that's like that was. That's horror movie. Dude. That's horror movie core. Like. But there's a distinct difference difference between cheap. There is a difference between cheap jump scares and a genuine jump scare.

[Ed Larson]

Oh it's like when someone just opens a bathroom mirror everything Right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Where they just use sound design to make you scared. Where in weapons. What's great about the jump scare, it shows that Zach Kreger actually knows what he's doing. Is that the move vibe of the movie changes in an instant after that.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Like if you know it's a pivot that jump scare is also functions in the movie. So like that's what was interesting about.

[Ed Larson]

It was a conjuring scare.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But again, horror movies need those things. Like what's a comedy movie without laughing.

[Ed Larson]

Sure.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know like that's how I view that. Where it's like, I hate comedy. Where you're supposed to go.

[Ed Larson]

Dramedy.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. I hate Phantom thread. I actually rewatched Phantom thread and I'm actually kind of more on the side of liking it.

[Jackie]

Really? No, it's great.

[Ed Larson]

You should watch it again.

[Jackie]

I just have heard Henry yell about Phantom threads since he saw Phantom go in.

[Ed Larson]

And you're like, this man is a. I know he's a. You're going to love the movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

As soon as I realized, oh, it's supposed to be funny, then I relaxed on it and then I was watching him. But then it's still like a. It's like if it's a comedy, it's in my lowest 50. But at least I understand that it's a comedy. So like I understand the performance is more and what he's going for. But that's my thing is that horror like it does need to create a sense of. I think if it does doesn't scare you at some point the horror movie could be considered a failure.

[Ed Larson]

So what if it's just makes you upset?

[Henry Zabrowski]

I actually think that that's a great goal.

[Ed Larson]

I think just making me upset is fine.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, I think it's a great goal.

[Jackie]

Like the movie Threads. Right. Threads is a post apocalyptic. It is a truly terrifying account of documentary.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's an alternative history history.

[Jackie]

But that. It is so upsetting. And so. But it is technically just a post apocalyptic movie, but it's a drama movie that is a horror that I am.

[Ed Larson]

I want to see that.

[Jackie]

I'm horrified by the movie.

[Ed Larson]

What about the Road? Is the Road a horror movie?

[Jackie]

I guess. I. I don't.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I would view the Road as a. A sci fi apocalyptic movie.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Jackie]

So that's different. So you're right. So that's the distinction. Because that's sci fi versus, like, threat. But is an alternate history. Is that in, like, inherently sci fi?

[Ed Larson]

I don't know. Is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I would say yes.

[Jackie]

Okay. All right.

[Ed Larson]

What about Predator? Is that sci fi or is that.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God, Killer of Killers? Did you guys see the best thing?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I'm waiting to watch both of them at once.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So good. I say Predator. Sci fi action.

[Ed Larson]

Sci fi action.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Alien, Sci fi horror.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Also, have you been watching Alien Earth?

[Ed Larson]

Is it good?

[Jackie]

I watched the first episode every single.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Time I've watched one of these horror television shows based off an idea.

[Ed Larson]

Edit it. It's just no matter what the television show is, you hate it.

[Jackie]

There's so much good TV out there.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But I just. Is it good? Yes.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No.

[Jackie]

Alien. I'm asking about the alien. No, I only watched the first episode.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I've watched some. I watch some tv. It's fine.

[Jackie]

It's fine. Yeah, I'm gonna keep watching it.

[Ed Larson]

Alien, Xenomorph.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Same. But I'm watching Project Runway right now. Well, I got Project Runway tv.

[Ed Larson]

That's trash.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Just stopped. I'm watching Aaron. Aaron Hernandez as series again.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Jackie]

I know you haven't seen together yet, but I will throw it out there. It is fun. It is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I can't wait. But I'm not a huge Dave Franco fan.

[Ed Larson]

And I never. I hate. Every time I say this, I end up regretting it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Ed Larson]

But I just don't like his face, bro.

[Jackie]

And here's the thing. Watching the movie, you're not gonna like it anymore. That together. The main issue I have with the movie together is that Alison Brie is just such a better actress than Dave Franco that it is just like going head to head even though I. Or they did it together. I know. She's just so good. And he's just.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He really did. Yeah.

[Jackie]

She's just like, great fun movie, but she is definitely, like carrying. He does as much as he can. You know, it is. I still really like the movie.

[Ed Larson]

I'm sure he's wonderful and I'm wrong and all this stuff, but it's every time I'm like, I don't like him. Just like, like, you know, because you feel that sometimes. And I used to hate Jack Black for no. No reason. You know, like. And then you're like, oh, well.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Oh, that's on me.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, he is extremely talented.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, he's gonna go out with Eddie Redmayne. I just think that, you know, obviously I think she's a hack. Well, let's just move on. Eddie means a hat other movies coming out this year.

[Ed Larson]

I'm excited for. Frankenstein, I think is going to be a lot of fun. Black Phone 2 is going to be a. Looks amazing.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It looks really good. You know what we didn't talk about though, and we didn't really even talk about at the time because we couldn't was Sinners.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We've never really talked about how that movie. What I actually like now even more thinking on Sinners. I've been watching it now twice is like. It's actually a really fun like throwback. Yeah. To a 90s. Like, I saw the. The opening and I had the original comparison in my mind of Dust Till.

[Ed Larson]

Dawn, of course because it's very similar, but it's classic, classy, digestible.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But then I started to realize it's more. We have dustled on. He's now made a 2020s dust till dawn.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Still Don's almost 30 years old.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't tell me about. But it was like one of those where it's like he made him a movie that combines all of the really fun aspects of a horror action mixed with the drama.

[Jackie]

Great soundtrack.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Talk about a Spielberg style.

[Jackie]

Oh, I'm looking at the. From Dill Dawn.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. Snake baby shake them big old dirty.

[Jackie]

Bags govern Feathers and grace, man.

[Ed Larson]

By the way, if you. If you don't. If you have free time, following Salma Hayek on Instagram is quite a question.

[Jackie]

Interesting. I might have to check this out. Yeah. Purposes.

[Ed Larson]

I think it's okay. I think it's allowed. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't know if Salma is going to be reaching out.

[Ed Larson]

Well, she's married to like a billionaire friend. Henchmen.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He might get boring.

[Jackie]

Next up is gonna be Ed Larson.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Hey, you know who followed me this morning?

[Ed Larson]

Who?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Spud the Cryptid.

[Jackie]

Is that a dog?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

That's cute.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, no tits on that.

[Ed Larson]

No tits. But you could glue them to him.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yep. Let's see what happens. I'm already, I'm fishing for it.

[Ed Larson]

All right. Predator Badland's gonna be great.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We didn't finish talking about sinners.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, sure. I'm sorry.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I hear is Enter. Anything you want to add?

[Ed Larson]

I mean, I, I, I just truly love it and it should have come out in the summer.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

And what I do love is it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Was the beginning of the. Would you probably call the summer season.

[Ed Larson]

It's guaranteed. Of any of the movies that we we've talked about today, it's the only one that's I think guaranteed to get a best picture nomination.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, probably. You know, it is Eddington a horror movie? No, no, I guess it is.

[Ed Larson]

It's just, it's a very upsetting drama.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, it's great. Did you see it?

[Jackie]

Yeah, I did. Yeah. I like Bo is afraid a lot. I think a lot more.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Me too. I laugh more.

[Ed Larson]

But as it's as my time has been with it, it's my least favorite of his movies.

[Jackie]

I understand.

[Ed Larson]

I love it doesn't just cuz I say it's my least favorite of his movies is like me saying, oh, it's my least favorite Rolling Stones album. I love all of them, you know, but it's the one I would probably watch the least.

[Henry Zabrowski]

If I had to choose a movie to watch of his, I would choose that one last.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But because again, it's mostly the subject matter.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Oh, I would probably you the order that came out is how good they are.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. Well, yeah. Hereditary is hard to put that back.

[Jackie]

In the bottle, man.

[Ed Larson]

Hereditary is just like a perfect film.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So good. I, I am now movie. Yes.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Very much so.

[Jackie]

A summer movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I view the Hereditary is probably in my top five horror movies of all time.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I would say so for me as well.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's crawled all the way to the top.

[Ed Larson]

Bring her Backs up there for me.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's getting there. Bring Her Back to me also is so good. Talk to me is an amazing. Again, why I think I've said before, it's just the. Just a very first really good zoomer horror movie. You know, like an actual good horror movie with young people in it. Ooh, that's what, that's what, that's why I feel like Talk to Me is.

[Jackie]

I guess I was thinking honestly, like.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Bodies, Bodies, Bodies was lame. The other. What else did I see?

[Jackie]

Fun. It was more fun than I expected. You know what it is?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Honestly?

[Ed Larson]

It's an airplane movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I am, Yes, I am over slasher parodies. I'm just over slasher parodies. I just think we've done them to.

[Jackie]

Well, that was the thing. So, honestly, I was looking up last night other summer horror movies, and on so many lists is Final Girls. I've never seen Final Girls. It is a comedy, but it was on every list. And I'm not usually it's a meta horror movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's a commentary movie. So it's another movie that basically I'm not gonna go and meanly say that it ripped off Cabin in the woods, but I am gonna say it's the same exact vibe as Cabin in the Woods.

[Ed Larson]

Okay, so it's fun.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's a fun movie. It' entertaining.

[Ed Larson]

How is that movie? Never gotten a sequel.

[Jackie]

It doesn't need it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No. Too good, man.

[Jackie]

Just don't, you know, please don't. Don't touch it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, don't put it out.

[Jackie]

But I understand you. I. I'm surprised they didn't try to capitalize on it.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Jackie]

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[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Jackie]

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[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Jackie]

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[Henry Zabrowski]

Sign what?

[Jackie]

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[Ed Larson]

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[Jackie]

Oh, that means so much. Oh, it rubbed off the screen when I touched it. Could you sign it again? Anything to help, I suppose. You're the best.

[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Ed Larson]

All right, here's the other one. That is a sequel that came out this year that is considered. It's labeled a horror movie. I don't think it is. Megan 2.0.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's an action movie.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I had a really good time.

[Jackie]

With action comedy for sure. I think I, I had. I had a lot of fun.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It left the genre to another genre.

[Ed Larson]

It really did.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. But it's like I, I found it very entertaining, but it is nowhere near what Megan was. But still, what can. What can be? But I love the idea of expanding the lore. Like, I still like expanding the lore into a sequel. That's really smart. Makes me happy. Like the idea of what they're saying about Terrifier 4 being in his world and finding out the origin of Art the Clown. I a soccer for that. So like, just like again, that's my ip, Art the Clowns, my Marvel extended Universe.

[Jackie]

I I understand.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I mean those movies are mine.

[Jackie]

But is War of the World Worlds.

[Henry Zabrowski]

War of the Worlds.

[Ed Larson]

I want everybody to go, you know, definitely sci fi.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Give my the only reason why we I made Jackie watch an hour.

[Jackie]

We have to at least talk about it. I, I Henry forced me to watch the first hour last night.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I want you all to watch the War of the World. I will say I want you to pirate this movie. I'm saying this out loud. I want you to pirate this movie.

[Jackie]

And that's given it a lot of grace, that 3%.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I am going to say it's been a very long time since I've seen a movie that is so Got you. It comes all the way back around.

[Jackie]

And then he.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So it's.

[Jackie]

See, I got you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So the movie takes place on a computer screen. It's Ice Cube. He works for the nsa. It's the same exact storyline as War of the Worlds, but it was shot during 2020. And so it's all from the perspective of his desktop computer and all of these people in isolation around him. And he can't leave the room. So it's just amazing.

[Jackie]

Oh, you can see the green screen on his glasses.

[Henry Zabrowski]

There's just a green screen on his glasses. It's so bad. My favorite parts are. So he misuses his job at the nsa.

[Jackie]

He's terror. Honestly, he's terrifying. Maybe that is a horror movie. That's what I mean. You're right. Oh, my God, Henry, you're so right. He is a horror movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He's terrifying. So Ice Cube plays.

[Ed Larson]

He does a good job, so.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, no, no, no. Ice Cube basically does like. Like, his. Essentially, he's playing the same, like, character as from Are We There Yet? But he works for the nsa.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Ed Larson]

So he's just like to believe that story.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So he's just going like. It's like, what's my damn daughter doing out with some boy? Right. And he's watching it as an NSA employer from, like, body cams and from security cams and from her own computer and hacking into her phone and doing all this stuff.

[Jackie]

Constant surveillance of his daughter, who's in her probably 30s.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Jackie]

Who's pregnant and also reading her text messages, being able to follow her wherever. Because he could just hack into any drone or see camera.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The thing is. But the movie is trying to say, he's a hero. Isn't he A funny dad? And you're like, no, he works for the goddamn nsa. He's abusing his power.

[Ed Larson]

If he wasn't abusing his power, maybe he would have been able to stop the alien invasion.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Exactly.

[Jackie]

Eddie. Why did he leave?

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's what I kept saying.

[Jackie]

He's like, desktop.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't know. And then, remember the whole Smash Cut montage of him putting numbers into a spreadsheet into a literal Excel sheet, and it's like. And then, like, he's so disconnected from the action that he's watching his son get attacked by aliens from a drone. And he's going, get away from us.

[Jackie]

You gotta run. They're behind you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Get out of there, Ron Gay. Quit messing with that stuff, Rod. And then when he goes to run or get his kids, and he gets to the door of his office and he goes, I'm locked in. I'm locked in. It's so bad. So bad.

[Jackie]

But I will say I was watching it alone and stoned. Watch it with friends.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I was laughing.

[Ed Larson]

I'm not gonna watch it.

[Jackie]

I'm. I already told Rob. I was like, rob, I need you to come. I was like, we're gonna have a boys night. We're gonna watch this movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

If we all sat and smoked blunts.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And watches outside.

[Ed Larson]

I just don't want to. It's just.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I.

[Ed Larson]

Choosing to watch a really bad movie movie on Amazon is, like, two things I hate.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So you don't like. You're not a Big like ironic movie. I hate the room.

[Ed Larson]

I think the room shouldn't exist. I hate that people enjoy going to see the room. I think.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Is it just because you just don't like it? This is trash. Well, because it's funny.

[Ed Larson]

They gave it millions of dollars. We could have done anything with that money.

[Jackie]

Watch a little look Ice Cube.

[Ed Larson]

You know what? I want to see Ice Cubes on tour. I want to see Ice Cube. I want to see him live.

[Jackie]

Only if he's doing snippets of War of the World.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Get away from that song. Get out of there.

[Jackie]

Oh my God.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Alien in there.

[Jackie]

The monsters were so bad.

[Ed Larson]

Just because you made a movie during company doesn't mean you have to release it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I feel like take the loss. So much time. So much time has now passed that it has definitely went to another distributor. And so much time has passed that the already the movie that was made, the movie that was spent to make the movie has already been. It's like in Christmas of Time Memorial trying to get. Now they can get it now. This is how. This is how they make their money.

[Ed Larson]

You know, Ice Cube is like, oh man, I really dodged a bullet. So happy that movie didn't come out.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Thanks for the check, yo. And then all of a sudden, oh no, get away from that stuff. That's what I would say to Ice Cube next time you see that script. Oh man, get away from that.

[Ed Larson]

Shot it at his own house. He's just like. He looks like he just got in a fight with his wife.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Every sing person in this movie is shooting it from their home. Like the only people. Cuz you notice the only people who had to leave anywhere were the two kids. Evil Lingoria is just like on her iPhone. Just shoot on. And that was the other thing too. This is a lady who works for NASA. Ice Cube works for nsa. They both have airbuds in like they're both like in these high intensity situations wearing earbuds.

[Jackie]

Cloudy. I don't think it works like that.

[Ed Larson]

Oh man.

[Jackie]

You made me watch it. Henry. Thank you.

[Ed Larson]

Oh no.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I'm locked in here.

[Jackie]

Oh no. I do love your anger, Eddie, towards watching really bad.

[Ed Larson]

It's like the same reason why I hate Skinnamarink. I just can't see anything that she.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Hated getting skin as well. But skinnamaran. I felt like everybody was fooled. The room at least the problem. The problem with the room in the end is Tommy Wiseau did not learn. It's like we all were kind of.

[Ed Larson]

Hoping he's only been rewarded.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. And he did not learn what. Because he was incapable of understanding what he did wrong with the room. Eventually what happened is that we all.

[Ed Larson]

He thinks he got nominated for an Oscar.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He made the Room thinking was the most important movie of all time. We showed up as an audience and told him, this movie is hilarious. Instead of him saying, oh, my God, I don't know how to it make movies. He's like, I'm hilarious. And then he started making comedies, and then he made an office comedy that is. If you want to see something that's worse and because the room is not trying to be funny.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You should see his office sit. When he tells jokes, when he does his own style of David Brent.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Like office management comedy. You should lose some brain cells watching that. You should allow your blood. Your blood pressure to sort of spike.

[Jackie]

I don't know if you can handle.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Blood pressure so low.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Oh, so we got Bump it up.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I feel like it's getting more.

[Ed Larson]

It's like the one thing I got Good.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh, wow. No, dude, let's ruin that. You got to watch it. It's called the.

[Ed Larson]

And you say low, but it's normal.

[Jackie]

Oh, we just don't understand. Yeah, yeah. Ours is just through the roof.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So, like, actually, I had a coup. My. My blood pressure was the highest level of normal. It could be, though, the last time, though, but I was normal.

[Ed Larson]

No java.

[Jackie]

Now I throw it out there. I feel like I'm usually not a nay over here. Usually. I like things that other people like.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You're very puzzled.

[Jackie]

But honestly, Heretic was one of those movies that everyone was like, it's so good. It's so good. And then I watched it, and I was just like, I. The first.

[Ed Larson]

I didn't want to see.

[Jackie]

The first 40 minutes were great. I thought it ended.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I thought it ended badly. But I like Hugh Jackman and. Not Hugh Jackman and Hugh Grant. Who is this to Grant to sucker? Hugh Grant to sucker. He is.

[Jackie]

He is fun in it, and I like seeing him in a different, fun way.

[Ed Larson]

He's a Mormon, right?

[Henry Zabrowski]

He's not a Mormon. The two. There are two Mormons that he's. He's doing sort of Mormons of the heroes. Yeah, sort of.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They were like, they do a good job. They. They don't lean on the Mormon stuff too much. It's just like, more showing this guy is like a very obviously pretentious, sociopathic, psychopathic atheist, and so he wants him to explain God and stuff. So it's like the beginning of. It's really fun. But then it kind of just doesn't. It kind of fizzles out a little bit for me.

[Jackie]

I was more surprised at every. Like, it has 91% on rotten tomatoes. So it is one of those that I was like, I'm not coming in trying to be a hater. But I thought the end really the bed for me personally, I understand why some people are like, he's just like.

[Ed Larson]

You know what I believe.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, it.

[Jackie]

No, it got like.

[Ed Larson]

Was that really the end?

[Jackie]

It got supernatural. It got crazy. It got.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It turned. It was a whole thing where instead of you went down there and there was like. Yeah, it just got all supernatural.

[Ed Larson]

Just like turned supernatural at the very end. Like House of a Thousand Corpses. Like really that bothered me. I liked. I like. I love the movie. Don't get me wrong, House of a Thousand Corpses. But I feel like the movie would have been way more terrifying if it never went supernatural.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know what the thing is, is that I will prefer it though to go crazy than the Nothing happened society.

[Jackie]

Like the movie society. That to me is like perfect. Like something. If you're going to go off the rails, go fucking.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Nothing. I hate even more than when a bunch of stuff has happened in a movie.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, they just wake up in the house is fine. Yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's the kind of shit that it's like, why have I wasted my life watching somebody dream?

[Ed Larson]

It's like the gate does that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. I love the Gate.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, but it's stupid.

[Jackie]

It's so Johnny Depp. Is that Johnny Depp?

[Ed Larson]

No, no, it's just some kids and little monsters.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The only thing about the Gate that makes me I like the game's favorite.

[Jackie]

So Stephen Dorf, the only Stephen Dorf.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The problem with the Gate is that it's PG 13 is that it's PG. That's the issue 80s horror schlock. It's so fun. I like the Gate. I'm not a gate hater.

[Ed Larson]

You know what I like rather watch than the Gate. Stay tuned anytime.

[Jackie]

And I know that it has a yucko in it, but I will say.

[Ed Larson]

Lots of movies got yuck.

[Henry Zabrowski]

How many yuckos you got to get.

[Ed Larson]

Through to make plays?

[Jackie]

The Devil I Know and stay tuned. Scared the out of me when I was little like this and we were watching like it and stuff. And this scared me the most.

[Henry Zabrowski]

This movie legitimately has some like deeply.

[Jackie]

Unsettling things outside of the, you know.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I mean. Yeah, but he was also before he was great. He was a great pervert. Hurt man.

[Jackie]

Really good.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Jeff Jones is an Excellent pedophile. There is no. I feel like that's fine. It's like saying Bill Cosby is the funniest rapist of all time. And you're. That's allowed.

[Ed Larson]

That is a statement that is said.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Now who's funnier.

[Jackie]

In my brain?

[Ed Larson]

Honestly, I don't think I can name one funnier.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's what I'm saying, everybody.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. H. Can't.

[Henry Zabrowski]

All right, so but while we're on.

[Ed Larson]

This horrible subject, you know what is considered a summertime horror movie?

[Jackie]

What?

[Ed Larson]

Jeepers creepers. Oh.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Make him a. Yeah, that's one we can't really forgive. I was going to make everybody do this. For this movie like episode, there was a part of me that wanted us each to choose three films from a cancelled director to put forward as she be back into the lexicon. The legitimate. All three of mine are Roman Polanski. So I don't really understand.

[Ed Larson]

It doesn't count.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He's never left. He's the only one that truly is unfortunately almost kind of indispensable in terms of being a sex criminal and. And an artist, you know, I mean. But it's hard too because like you know, I don't. I'm not gonna let him touch my car. Me. No.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Away from him. Oh, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Well, you know, he's Polish. He probably thought they were adults.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Come on. Hey, let's forgive him.

[Ed Larson]

How about the Sleep. The Sleepaway camp series?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Oh baby, I love the sl.

[Ed Larson]

I like to the most.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes, I agree. Really? Yeah, absolutely. Super.

[Jackie]

I'll go back and watch it again.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's really, really good also. You know what's my favorite July 4th horror movie of all time? What? It has nothing to do with the holiday at all. But it's my favorite still. Tales from the Hood.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, Tales from the Hood. I was thinking about that movie. That's a really good movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Tales from the Hood is my favorite. I would put that great soundtrack. Yes, yes. And I also really appreciate having a full on like if we're throwing all these movies in on July 4th, like having that movie which is probably the. The center voice of African American voices in horror at the time. Like all of those voices in that one movie is like it's powerful man. That movie's good as it's. And guess what though, Guess what? It's not a party movie because I have tossed it on a couple times in a party.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's not. Makes people really bumped out. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

It's awesome. Just the. Just the little doll part. You could do it's my favorite because think of it as like shorts, you know, just. Just show like that part. I feel like you could do that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's very good. And it's genu scary and it's. And it's upsetting and it's got a lot of in it.

[Jackie]

Hell yeah, man. Can I also just throw it out there? Hot take. Can we stop making conjuring movies? How is he gonna go his career? I know we're all worried about it, but are like.

[Ed Larson]

The last one was unforgivable.

[Jackie]

I guess people are still going. Remember Henry? I think we saw what was that the second or the third? I got you, baby. I got you, baby. I got your baby.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Insidious too.

[Jackie]

Oh, that was insidious.

[Ed Larson]

Honestly, we stop making those as well.

[Jackie]

I feel like it is that world of like. Like if conjuring again. If you're going to go full circle and go like bat shit. All right, I guess keep going. If you're going to Final Destination me, keep fucking going.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think it's just because they're all locked in. I think that Patrick Wilson has information on somebody.

[Jackie]

Many are they.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think this is it. I think this is.

[Ed Larson]

It's last. Right?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Right.

[Jackie]

Jesus Christ. My God.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So many last ones. But this should be fine. You know what's up though is that I give it my money every time.

[Jackie]

I do.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I give it my money every time. I always. This one I'm close. Only because the last one was so bad and the idea.

[Ed Larson]

The last one was really, really bad. But I did learn the second one was kind of fun at least.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But I learned the differences between a nighttime Satanist and a daytime Satanist. What I remember but I remember remember saying that that there was nighttime Satanists and there was.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, sure. People with jobs.

[Jackie]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, yeah. Honestly though, this is what a good episode. Guys.

[Ed Larson]

I want to give a shout out to Piranha 3D.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Piranha 3D was really fun.

[Jackie]

Hell yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Also.

[Jackie]

Oh, the Hills have Eyes. That's also another great summer movie. Sweaty horror movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Also, I believe The Friday the 13th series is the summer. Yes. Horror icon.

[Ed Larson]

But 4 and 7 are the ones to watch.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes. Yeah, I would say that Friday the 13th and this is probably where I'll get in the hot water is. Is the least best of the icon. Like.

[Ed Larson]

Of course it is.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

I mean they call it a rip off.

[Jackie]

And I love Freddy Krueger. Do not get me wrong.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No, that's Jason.

[Jackie]

I know. I'm talking about. I'm talking about separate. I'm Like I love Nightmare on Elm Street.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. My nightmare Friday's the. Freddy's the. The best. Freddy's been my favorite horror character of all time.

[Ed Larson]

Really? Over Art the Clown?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yes.

[Ed Larson]

Wow.

[Jackie]

Freddie.

[Ed Larson]

I'm Michael Myers.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Freddy said OJ Dude. Michael.

[Ed Larson]

My Meyer is my favorite.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah. I do love my.

[Ed Larson]

He's the best. He's evil incarnate.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But Freddy's. That's top of the. It's Freddy and Pinhead get.

[Jackie]

Getting got in your sleep still. I mean. Still creeps me the f. I mean, just thinking about the man with the hat.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Number three.

[Ed Larson]

What?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Leprechaun.

[Ed Larson]

He's your number three.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Because of Warwick Davis.

[Ed Larson]

Wow.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But Warwick Davis doesn't give war.

[Jackie]

You are correct.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Every minute he's on screen he makes that movie. So watch.

[Jackie]

Have you watch every single one of the leprechauns.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Jackie]

They really. Warwick does show up. But not a lot of the other people do.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But when it's on screen.

[Jackie]

You're right. You can't Dynamic.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He is. You're right. Legitimately. The goat. He's a scene stealer.

[Jackie]

He is. You're damn right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You cannot come for him.

[Jackie]

You are correct.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I will. I will kill for him.

[Ed Larson]

Did you guys see the new Willow?

[Jackie]

I did. I liked it and canceled it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It deleted it.

[Jackie]

Really?

[Ed Larson]

They deleted it.

[Jackie]

It was like a wonderful queer Willow. That was just really sweet. And I was upset that they canceled.

[Ed Larson]

It on watching it. I didn't know they got rid of it.

[Jackie]

I've liked it. And I'm. I'm not saying. I'm sure I'll get a lot of. For people that like love. Love Willow. I'm not saying. I would never say it's better than original Willow. I just had fun with it. It was just like a nice cute.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Sounds like you're saying it's better than the original Willow. And I hope that the lesbians will kill. Jackie. Please don't.

[Jackie]

Lesbians. You know I love you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Attack lesbians. Attack. Lesbians unite.

[Jackie]

I'm on your side.

[Ed Larson]

Oh. And I know what you did last summer. It's not worth watching.

[Jackie]

Man. Rewatching the original one.

[Henry Zabrowski]

So I. I wanted fun.

[Ed Larson]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Jackie]

I'm not talking about the new bad movie. And now this all makes sense. I didn't realize.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He doesn't purposely. That's one of.

[Jackie]

It's stupid.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And it's one of those horror movies that like.

[Ed Larson]

But it didn't know it was stupid. It thought it was good.

[Jackie]

I know.

[Ed Larson]

Because it's a bunch of what I don't like.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but I like it. Bunch of sexy hot people and they're being so like it's so bad.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But you got it. To me, the movie only works if they don't think it's stupid. They have to think that it's serious in order to sell it. There's a certain amount of schlock allowance that you have to kind of. I think if you're usher in the.

[Ed Larson]

Worst period of horror in my opinion.

[Henry Zabrowski]

What's funny funny though is that a lot of those movies now are some of my favorite to re watch.

[Ed Larson]

Just scream. Everything else is.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But dude, they're really fun.

[Jackie]

I tell you. Those bongos.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know what it is is that these are the movies now that Natalie and I watch almost for comfort. Like these are my comfort movies now. Mimic a couple other like 90 horror movies.

[Jackie]

It's going great, but we're only just Ghost Boat.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, Ghost Boat is honestly not that bad. Bone Collector, the one with.

[Ed Larson]

I think it's Ghost Ship.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Ghost Ship, sorry.

[Jackie]

I like Ghost Boat is the sequel.

[Ed Larson]

Collector.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The Bone Collector. There's another one. Fallen's good movie.

[Jackie]

Oh my God.

[Ed Larson]

I want to rewatch couple years that movie holds up.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I also love unironically all of the Stephen King TV movies that were. Except for the Shining. Stephen King. Stephen Weber movie shouldn't have been made. Needs to be deleted from.

[Jackie]

I thought it was deleted.

[Ed Larson]

You have feel like you just brought it back into the zeitgeist.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I had to buy it d on dvd.

[Ed Larson]

Really?

[Jackie]

And then you sent it back. You're like, I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna send it right back.

[Ed Larson]

Can you make this into a cd, please?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Can you make this into a sandwich, please? So if there are any final thoughts before we begin. What do you wish to see see in the coming years?

[Ed Larson]

Well, I do, I do want to say to let everyone know that Jaws is coming back to the imax Theater on August 29th for one week. Get your tickets. I'm going September 2nd, so make sure if you do want to see. I've never. I've seen in the theater multiple times. I've never seen it in the imax. So if you want to check it out, now's the time.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Is it the same print or is it like they refurbished it?

[Ed Larson]

I don't know. I bet it's going to be beautiful because it didn't come out on July 4th and it's coming out on Labor Day. So I imagine they took some extra time with it to make it pretty.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They put Extra col it.

[Jackie]

Hell yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We put three extra sharks in it.

[Ed Larson]

I would love that.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Pump it up, we sharks.

[Jackie]

I'm always down for more vampires. I am such a sucker for vampires. Watching Lost Boys last night. Yeah, I suck and I. And I suck and I. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Incredible.

[Jackie]

Is just such a good. Because I'm a sucker.

[Ed Larson]

I used to hang out with James the writer.

[Jackie]

Really?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, he used to live down the street from me.

[Jackie]

Hell yeah.

[Ed Larson]

He owned the only house on Houston. Every other place was a was apartment building.

[Jackie]

Dogs love to and piss.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was his house.

[Jackie]

Yeah, he was very cool.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, he worked as a grip on Blade Runner. Pulled Lost Boys out of his ass and then bought a house off it and lived off it his whole life.

[Jackie]

Lost Boys holds up well.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Have you seen Near Dark?

[Jackie]

Near, Yes, I love Near.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I think Near Dark is probably. Besides. Besides, Near Dark's a little better. Francis Ford Copa's Dracula. It's like one of my favorite vampire movies.

[Jackie]

Also not a summer one, but I saw last year for the first time Fright Night. I had never seen Fright Night. It's. Yeah, it's great.

[Ed Larson]

Seen it since I was a child.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Not good remake. Not good.

[Jackie]

No, the remake's not good.

[Henry Zabrowski]

But.

[Jackie]

But watch the original again. It really is. It's. It's a great movie.

[Henry Zabrowski]

You know, it also is great for the summertime. I think anthologies are great for the summertime. Is. Oh, my God, my favorite movie. The Stephen King Creep Show. The Creep show movies. All of the Creep show movies are amazing.

[Ed Larson]

You like the ones that are shorts?

[Henry Zabrowski]

I love anthology. Yes. I love Body Bags.

[Ed Larson]

Body Bags is great.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I love Body Bags. I'm a son, her friend. All the VHS's. I've watched all the holes.

[Jackie]

Right. It is Creep show with the Leslie Nielsen with Ted Danson. Right.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It's so good again. And then with the Naked Gun. The new movie is actually really good. Liam Neeson shows off his chops in that movie. But no one will. Will replace. No one will replace Leslie Nielsen because he's just got that, oh, he's perfect gravitas.

[Jackie]

But the new Naked Gun was a lot phenomenal.

[Ed Larson]

I can't wait to see it again.

[Jackie]

The person that wait to see it.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Again that blew my mind was Pamela Anderson.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, she was great.

[Jackie]

I'm about to read her memoir because I'm now just falling in love.

[Ed Larson]

She's got that doc too that came out two years ago and she's got a.

[Jackie]

A new show now too. She's got like a home show that she like because she has A farm.

[Henry Zabrowski]

The show, it's the opposite of Houston.

[Ed Larson]

Day Watch lakewat.

[Jackie]

Okay, there we go.

[Ed Larson]

River watch.

[Henry Zabrowski]

We've had a lot. We've done a lot.

[Jackie]

We've been talking a lot recently.

[Henry Zabrowski]

A lot of shows this week. All right, all right. You. Thank you so much for joining us in today's special episode. It was special, wasn't it? You're welcome. Patreon.com Last podcast and left. Give us money there. Go to all our YouTube channels. Subscribe to them. Someplace underneath. LPN, Romantasy, the Foreign Report, and LPN TV. If you would. Go and subscribe.

[Jackie]

Who's the.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Right now and subscribe. Who's the bee? For the love of Christ, go do it right now. It's. It's for free.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, Jackie got a birthday.

[Jackie]

Oh, I got a birthday present from.

[Ed Larson]

Rob sitting here showing me up and.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Henry didn't give me anything up. I got. I already have you a gift. I didn't bring it today.

[Jackie]

I know.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He did.

[Jackie]

He already. Henry told me this. What is. Ooh, I love it.

[Ed Larson]

What is it?

[Jackie]

It's a titty mog, Elvira.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, that's very.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's very fun. Fun.

[Jackie]

This is great. Thank you.

[Henry Zabrowski]

That's very good. I'll just come out the nipples. Oh, man. Can I suck on the outside of it?

[Jackie]

I'm gonna put some holes in there so I can suck my coffee right at her tits. Thank you so much, Rob. I love this. And I will say thank you so much.

[Henry Zabrowski]

And when Jeff dies, you can put his ashes in it.

[Jackie]

Good. This is the amount that I'll have. And I'll go lock them better with tits on it. Yeah, I, you know, Elvira is going to be doing the LA Haunted Hayride this year. No, she hadn't been.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No. I thought she stopped.

[Jackie]

She stopped a long time ago. And they brought in Monty Revolta, and.

[Ed Larson]

I love Monty not coming back.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I know. I don't know.

[Jackie]

I just know that Elvira is now doing this year's Haunted Hayride. And I was like, what about Monty Revolt? What am I going to do without Monte Revolta? Monty Revolta is this, like, is a horror personality. I don't know if he's just in L. A. I've only ever seen him at the LA Haunted Hayride.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He's on the show. He's actually, he's very entertaining, genuinely funny.

[Jackie]

And I, I, I see him every year Monday Revolta.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I actually posted four weeks ago.

[Ed Larson]

Okay, good. So he's alive.

[Jackie]

Okay, he's alive.

[Henry Zabrowski]

No one dies. The next day.

[Jackie]

He just got fired.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, he.

[Henry Zabrowski]

He might have been fired.

[Jackie]

Maybe got fired.

[Ed Larson]

Hey, I imagine he might be problematic. Whoa, Monte Revolto.

[Jackie]

I mean, can the undead grab whatever they want?

[Henry Zabrowski]

Who knows?

[Ed Larson]

They're dead.

[Henry Zabrowski]

They don't know.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Thank you for joining us today, Jackie. Anything to plug.

[Jackie]

Oh, I don't know if you want to know about those holes. No, yeah, no, no, it's just what you said. YouTube.comsthebe YouTube.com Romantasy get on it. Check out page seven. You know, just come hang out with us and Henry.

[Ed Larson]

Come see Henry and I on the road. We got some side story shows coming up. We're going to be in Kansas City on September 21, Redway, California, at the Matteo Community Center, October 24 and.

[Jackie]

Oh, is that where you're going be during my choir concert?

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Jackie]

And that's the show you'll be canceling. So just let them know now.

[Ed Larson]

If we cancel that show, you won't get free weed for a year.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Yeah, you get nothing. You get nothing.

[Jackie]

All right, go to the. All right, do the show.

[Ed Larson]

Do the show. November 30th we're going to be in Columbus, Ohio at the Newport Music hall.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Runner to play Shade o Connor O.

[Ed Larson]

She'll be great at it. She'll be amazing at it.

[Jackie]

Why are you so upset?

[Ed Larson]

What up? Do you care about Natalie Portman or Sinead? Okay, yes.

[Henry Zabrowski]

It was supposed to be me.

[Ed Larson]

That's a horrible nothing.

[Henry Zabrowski]

Compass. Nothing. Compass to you.

[Jackie]

All right, get out of here.

[Ed Larson]

Goodbye, everybody. I'll see you next week.

[Henry Zabrowski]

I don't mean to interrupt your meal, but I saw you from across a cafe. And you're the Geico Gecko, right? In the flesh. Oh my goodness. This is huge. To finally meet you. I love Geico's fast and friendly claim service. Well, that's how Geico gets 97% customer satisfaction. Anyway, that's all. Enjoy the rest of your food. No worries. So are you just gonna watch me eat? Oh, sorry, just a little starstruck. I'll be on my way. If you're gonna stick around, just pull up a chair.

[Ed Larson]

You're the best.

[Henry Zabrowski]

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[Jackie]

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