
This week, in honor of Horror Movie season, Henry and Eddie are joined once again by the Cinematic Siren of LPN - Jackie Zebrowski! The trio checks in on everyone’s 31 for 31 progress... but first the gang reacts to this week’s wildest stories, including social media star Big John’s deportation from Australia, and the prison murder of disgraced Lostprophets frontman Ian Watkins.
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Ed Larson
This is the last on the left side stories.
Henry Zabrowski
That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Yes. Jackie, you need to take it to heart that being Polish means you're not white. I learned that from the Himler series.
Jackie Zabrowski
Is this why you brought me on today?
Ed Larson
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
Okay. Yeah. To tell you that you're not white. Racial. You're out, Jackie.
Jackie Zabrowski
I'm out.
Ed Larson
You're out? Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
Just of the white club. Of the white club.
Ed Larson
I'm. I'm also Polish, but I get to stay in.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, why?
Ed Larson
Because I'm a man.
Henry Zabrowski
That's the main issue.
Ed Larson
So.
Jackie Zabrowski
So I'm the one that's out. But Henry is still in.
Ed Larson
I'm unfortunately. Yeah, he's a man. Okay. All right. Both.
Henry Zabrowski
I can claim white, and you're like Jamie Lee Curtis. Yes. I can claim white and person of color. That color being pink.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh. But I mean, I feel like I look a little roasted myself. I'm fairly pink.
Henry Zabrowski
You're a normalized Italian American.
Announcer
Whoa.
Jackie Zabrowski
Capiche?
Ed Larson
Cappy.
Henry Zabrowski
And we took that away from you.
Jackie Zabrowski
I thought that they were also not white.
Henry Zabrowski
No, we gave it to the indigenous.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, because of Indigenous Peoples Day.
Henry Zabrowski
Columbus Day was the day that made Italian people not.
Ed Larson
I'm a blow up a spot real quick. All right, I was at. All right, okay. So I was in Madison, Wisconsin, on Indigenous Peoples Day. I performed the night before. It was a great night. Thank you for everyone who came out to comedy on stage.
Henry Zabrowski
Great plug.
Ed Larson
Okay. It's not a plug. The show's over. It was a. Thank you. Okay, great.
Jackie Zabrowski
Thank you.
Ed Larson
Difference. Yeah. All right. I want to Ship back the rest of my merch. Didn't sell all of it. Big surprise, the smaller sizes. I go to the post. Smalls are left.
Jackie Zabrowski
Smalls and medium are left.
Ed Larson
Yeah, I go to the post office. Closed. Indigenous Peoples Day.
Henry Zabrowski
Good.
Ed Larson
Interesting.
Jackie Zabrowski
I'm good.
Henry Zabrowski
You know, that's what I said.
Ed Larson
I'm like, you know what? I deserve it. I Google, where's a FedEx? On the other side of the Capitol building in Wisconsin. Beautiful Capitol building in Madison, Wisconsin.
Henry Zabrowski
Really gorgeous.
Ed Larson
It was actually way. It was way better than it had any right to be. All right, so I'm walking around the Capitol in Wisconsin. Madison, Wisconsin. Indigenous People's Day. There's people working on the lawn.
Henry Zabrowski
Unbelievable.
Ed Larson
You believe that they weren't white? No.
Henry Zabrowski
See, I would have put out all the whites, but not me.
Jackie Zabrowski
I would have a day off. I wish you had had this conversation with me a week ago, and then I would have taken the day.
Ed Larson
But you believe that the governor, of course, of Wisconsin. Whoever you are. I don't care to learn your name, you piece of shit. Wow. You having the maintenance workers work on Indigenous People's Day?
Jackie Zabrowski
Probably not the governor's.
Ed Larson
I should have took it a picture and blown that. It's his building or hers. Well, thank you. Thank you.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm just glad that we began today's.
Ed Larson
Episode for you, you cheese fuck.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm glad that we began today's episode with a threat to the governor of Wisconsin.
Jackie Zabrowski
That beautiful building. They don't deserve to have a building.
Henry Zabrowski
To side stories. My name is Hen Zabrowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson. Tony Evers. Unfortunately, you're on watch.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Is that his name? Yep.
Ed Larson
Oh, yeah. Oh, look at that. He looks like someone.
Jackie Zabrowski
He's probably in there jerking off, watching him work.
Ed Larson
Oh, absolutely. Tony Evers.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, give me another curd.
Henry Zabrowski
Really in the weeds here now, and we're sitting here with.
Ed Larson
I ain't taking no.
Henry Zabrowski
My darling sister, Jackie Zabrowski.
Jackie Zabrowski
BOC Jackie Zabrowski. Can I start calling myself that because of what you said?
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yes. I'm a bitch of color. Thank you. Thank you.
Henry Zabrowski
I would say of a certain color.
Ed Larson
Yeah. Okay.
Jackie Zabrowski
All right.
Henry Zabrowski
Specific color. So you're a boss.
Ed Larson
How is our buddy Bosch?
Henry Zabrowski
Well, we. For those of you that don't know, Big John is a man that we brought up on the stream. If you want to find out who Big John is, go and see our replays at LPN TV over at the YouTube.
Jackie Zabrowski
And I've been hearing you pretend to be this man for many minutes, and it Sounds like you need to get into him.
Henry Zabrowski
But, Bosch, Mr. Big John decided that he's. He's a food. British food influencer, which means that all of the food that he influences is dis. Yuck.
Ed Larson
Bang. Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. But he got detained in a Perth airport after he declared that he was going to do a series of meet and greets throughout the cities of Australia without obtaining a proper work visa.
Jackie Zabrowski
John has huge Chinese.
Ed Larson
He's got big ideas.
Henry Zabrowski
He's got big ideas. But some of those big ideas require paperwork. Big John. Whatever, Cockney idiot. You listen to that? Told you that. Meet and grease.
Ed Larson
Oh, you just go and have a good time, shake some hands. What's wrong with that?
Henry Zabrowski
And it's literally somebody told you that it was a gray area. And it was not a gray area. So Big John unfortunately was deported from Perth this morning.
Ed Larson
But gray areas between his taint and his balls, dude.
Henry Zabrowski
He hopes it's great.
Jackie Zabrowski
Is that where he keeps his huge Chinese? I'm just so curious as what it means by Big John. John has huge Chinese.
Henry Zabrowski
Look at his belly. It going into his belly.
Jackie Zabrowski
He's Big John. But what is huge Chinese?
Henry Zabrowski
With the uk, you have to remember they leave certain articles out, right? Like they say go. They go.
Ed Larson
Hospital.
Henry Zabrowski
They go to hospital.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
Right. So in there, when they say having a big Chinese, that's like a big Chinese meal. He's having an Asian meal. He's having a big Chinese.
Ed Larson
Okay. But the thing with Big John is that he is very pro immigrant.
Henry Zabrowski
He pro.
Ed Larson
He's very. And he goes very outspoken. But then now he's detained in an immigration. Attention to that.
Jackie Zabrowski
We've gotta go save him.
Henry Zabrowski
No, he's fine.
Ed Larson
He's the girth and birth.
Henry Zabrowski
Big John literally needed to learn this lesson. He learned this.
Jackie Zabrowski
Learning absolutely nothing from this.
Ed Larson
Oh, yes. Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
You think so?
Ed Larson
Oh, it's his birthday.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, you need the proper immigration paperwork even on birthday. That's how it works. And that's just unfortunate. And he's learned that is the true. That's the journey of the immigrant.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And he learned right there of what.
Ed Larson
You got to do. There's another British celebrity in the news. Right?
Henry Zabrowski
There is. And oh, my Lord, I'm so glad that Jackie is here for this episode.
Jackie Zabrowski
Been waiting for a platform to be able to talk about this. And thank you guys so much for giving it, because people want to know what I think about Ian Watkins.
Henry Zabrowski
You know, for those of you that don't know, lead singer of everybody's favorite band, Lost Profits, Ian Watkins, apparently also Convicted pedophile and sexual offender found profit. He is.
Ed Larson
Oh, yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
They found him very guilty.
Henry Zabrowski
He is finally fucking dead. For those of you that don't know, go look it up. It's really horrible.
Ed Larson
I know nothing about this. Really.
Henry Zabrowski
I want to go. I know.
Ed Larson
Is he fucked a baby, right?
Jackie Zabrowski
Well, I've been sitting here reading about it, Eddie, and it turns out it wasn't fun for a lot of people. Except for him.
Henry Zabrowski
He tried to fuck a baby. Baby. Which is actually honestly one of the things that's so hard because babies, they just lie there. Now, there's other things that he does.
Jackie Zabrowski
He.
Henry Zabrowski
He did try. He did had sex with children. Multiple children. There were people.
Jackie Zabrowski
Multiple children.
Henry Zabrowski
He made bestiality videos. He made a.
Jackie Zabrowski
Children's fans.
Henry Zabrowski
But Jackie. But all stuff that they should have been focusing on the music. Because when I think about the music, I feel like that's where everything suffered.
Ed Larson
Yeah. You know, I never even heard of their band.
Henry Zabrowski
It's. Oh, let's throw up a track.
Ed Larson
I don't think we can.
Henry Zabrowski
I think I can play it for you. I may have to take it out of the episode. Snippet. I can give you a little snippet. Can we do a thing, Rob, where you throw up a sample of lost profits and then we're gonna put something in its place? For sure. Yeah, I can make that happen.
Ed Larson
Is that what he just said? And you said it back to us. God, it's always the worst music.
Henry Zabrowski
God, I get you. Oh, man.
Ed Larson
All right, that's enough. I get it. Is that him?
Henry Zabrowski
That's him.
Ed Larson
Oh, I remember this.
Henry Zabrowski
Goo Goo Gaga. I want a piece of that lead.
Jackie Zabrowski
Singer, you know, you remember this. We were both of this whiny.
Ed Larson
Oh my God. I can't right now with this.
Henry Zabrowski
Okay.
Jackie Zabrowski
People are gonna be angry like that.
Henry Zabrowski
That's them.
Ed Larson
That's them. Yep.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yes, man.
Ed Larson
Oh, you were a Lost Prophet Rabbits fan.
Jackie Zabrowski
Of course she was. I mean, I knew that song.
Henry Zabrowski
A lot of people like that song.
Jackie Zabrowski
Really?
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, it was very popular song.
Ed Larson
People liked it.
Henry Zabrowski
Last Train Home was very popular. Yes.
Ed Larson
Yep.
Henry Zabrowski
And it was the last train he took to the prison cell. He had 13 different crimes he was convicted of, including attempting attempted rape of a minor, an 11 month old boy, conspiracy to rape, as well as possession of child pornography, of which 24 of the 90 images were considered to be level five. Which is, you know, this is that house and misses that house. And it comes straight after you. Yeah. They say that's the most vile category of all because that's Called when you don't give them. God, it's called when you don't give them a reach around, man.
Ed Larson
You know what I got to say. Who? Poor cops. I think about this every time. It's just like, all right, here's a series of videos. Level them.
Jackie Zabrowski
I mean, that's. They're all arguing about it.
Henry Zabrowski
Like, you know, that that's actually a legit thing within, especially, like the FBI. We talk about this like, you know, I'll just lay. I'll lay this out right now. When I was going to write this, the series that Natalie and I wrote, Trollville, Yeah. That featured me as a person living in their basement and was all right before the first Trump election. And we. Everyone wanted to know who's electing Trump. And we were. That was like a video that we. We put together this story of a man that was a troll on the Internet that was then challenged by being thrust into real life.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And I realized with the second season, what I'd always wanted to be was to be one of these guys, which is that Toby, my character, would. Of the human eyes on content that needed to be pulled off of social media networks, because that's what they have to do. It's like, so they have. They're working on AI and computer programs to watch this shit on its own. Right. But the problem is they need human checkers to double the work, of course. So you have these people, so it doesn't even matter.
Ed Larson
There's no reason to have AI watch trial pornography.
Henry Zabrowski
I mean, unless we're trying to teach them how to make great stuff. And so Watkins, he was jailed in 2013. He admitted a string of horrific sex offenses, including the attempted rape of a fan's baby. A trial judge later said that the charges against Watkins plumbed new depths of depravity. And he was jealous. And apparently he said that that was.
Jackie Zabrowski
The problem is that the password, password.
Henry Zabrowski
On the encrypted files to his computer was I fuck, which is honestly dz, period.
Jackie Zabrowski
But isn't it usually, like, what they check first is like that kind of stuff, Like, I fuck children. Fucking children is good.
Henry Zabrowski
It actually takes a quite a bit for someone to flag your statements on the Internet. They have to build up a case against you.
Jackie Zabrowski
I meant after he was already going through it. I feel like that's, you know, you probably should have covered your tracks a little bit better.
Ed Larson
So, Henry, did you change all your passwords?
Announcer
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Also, I pulled that application out for my vanity license plate because I thought mine was extreme, extremely unique. He was arrested in September 2012 after police executed a drug search warrant at his home in Pontipid and seized a large number of computers, mobile phones and storage devices. Now we know that he was on protective lockup in jail. So he was in Britain. In Britain. He was like, it's this. What was this place? It was called, like, the. I forgot the name of the prison that he was in that has, like, a funny name. It's called, like, Monster Mansion or whatever. And it's all these extreme criminals and in the uk, and he's one of them. And he has been under extreme protective custody, walking everywhere, has had no, like, time to his own. He's always on a suicide watch. He was actually held at knife point in 2023 already.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
So he was already. David went to go for him.
Ed Larson
So this time, what is that popular?
Henry Zabrowski
They are gutted. They were very much so gutted for him. So the guys got him and so they stabbed him to death.
Ed Larson
How many times?
Henry Zabrowski
Many, many, many, many, many, many times. Rashid Get El and Samuel Dodsworth were arrested on suspicion of murder and were taken into police custody. And they are very happy about it. Yeah, his throat was slit.
Ed Larson
I imagine those guys are going to be getting very, like, extra food for the rest of their meals in prison.
Jackie Zabrowski
You know, it's just one of those where people are like, an eye for.
Ed Larson
An eye makes the hoe.
Jackie Zabrowski
But it's like, nah, man.
Ed Larson
Yeah. You know who said that? Gandhi.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
You know what he did?
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, well, you could say Gandhi kids. It's more like he married his cousin. And it's just different when you think about all the others.
Jackie Zabrowski
When you're so hungry. It's like the choices you make separate.
Henry Zabrowski
The art from the artist. And so this guy couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Ian Watkins.
Ed Larson
Got him. That's a big old.
Henry Zabrowski
Got him. Bye. I hope he got to put in one last prayer so he could go to heaven with Charlie Kirk and Jimmy Savile. Well, they won't.
Ed Larson
He won't be able to get to heaven.
Henry Zabrowski
Why not?
Ed Larson
He's lost.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, my God.
Henry Zabrowski
If he says, I'm sorry, right before. They do believe in certain Christian ideologies largely also in the Catholics and the idea that no matter what you do in this life, you go to purgatory.
Ed Larson
Do you know the Protestants hate. That's why they hate the Catholics, because they say you can't trust them. You can't trust them because they could just commit a crime and then. And then confess their sins and be forgiven. You can't trust them.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, of course. Yeah. It's called we eat the flesh of our fucking flayed savior.
Ed Larson
I mean, you know, it's half my family. Yeah, and your family.
Jackie Zabrowski
Well, yeah, you didn't say I trusted my family.
Henry Zabrowski
We will eventually do some run up of Ian Watkins, but because I don't want to go through all of the.
Ed Larson
Details, talk about him ever again, I feel like this is fine and all he deserves.
Henry Zabrowski
I actually. I kind of want to do a series of things. I wanted to do a series of things.
Jackie Zabrowski
Another. I want more details, guys.
Henry Zabrowski
You know what I call this type of murderer? This type of person's criminal? A Cake pop.
Ed Larson
Yeah, they were ready to take him.
Jackie Zabrowski
Because once he popped, his fun didn't stop.
Henry Zabrowski
It's Pringles.
Ed Larson
I've been listening to Cake Pop. It's delicious.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes, it's more of something tiny stuck on something very long and thin. Well, let's get to some movie talk. Yeah, this is a.
Ed Larson
Hell, yeah. I love it. Like, this is all gonna happen and then like, we're gonna put this episode out and we were like, I can't believe Jackie was there.
Henry Zabrowski
That's my favorite.
Ed Larson
With that, we'll take no shit. Oh, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
It's all gonna be, you know, it's all going to be the people paid stuff. It's going to be real upset.
Jackie Zabrowski
Say anything bad.
Ed Larson
Yeah, I know, but guess it doesn't matter.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah. Next to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I did say that, you know, I'm fine with what happened to him. You know, you don't want to wish evil on a person, but it's not evil.
Ed Larson
It's, you know, getting stabbed.
Henry Zabrowski
I think you're both terrible people.
Jackie Zabrowski
Have them again.
Henry Zabrowski
I think every life is sacred. Which is why every time I even masturbate, I save it because I know each time I look at it because I can't bear.
Ed Larson
So it goes back in you.
Henry Zabrowski
It's a circle of luck.
Jackie Zabrowski
Where do you give it to Natalie? Do you, like, offer it?
Henry Zabrowski
No, I go and I say, good night, Theodore. Good night, Elizabeth.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, I thought they were chipmunks.
Henry Zabrowski
Good night, Brian. Good night, Samuel. Good night, Rodrigo.
Ed Larson
Like Samuel L. Jackson.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. Good night, Jefferson Robotnik. And then I let him out into the. Into the ocean of the toilet.
Jackie Zabrowski
Stuck on your hands.
Henry Zabrowski
Gotta use cold water.
Ed Larson
I need costume suggestions also, by the way, from the people. If you could send me some costume suggestions. Henry's got a good costume cooked up for the Humboldt show.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, dude, I do.
Ed Larson
And I. I don't have Anything yet. I could just wear my Annabelle, but that's like, you know, old hat at this.
Jackie Zabrowski
Easy. Yeah, that's too easy.
Ed Larson
Yeah. I'm already Annabelle all the time.
Henry Zabrowski
Let me pitch what Edd already pitched.
Ed Larson
Okay. Michael Jackson, what do you think?
Jackie Zabrowski
I mean, I think that you should. I. I think it's a wonderful idea if you can find that red jacket in your size.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, we found it.
Ed Larson
Wow.
Jackie Zabrowski
I mean, that's. That's most of the costume.
Henry Zabrowski
Halloween costumes, dot com.
Ed Larson
Yeah. They got everything over there, apparently. Yeah. I had no idea.
Henry Zabrowski
We have friends there.
Ed Larson
Look at this guy. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, my God. Think about. Think about Ed Larson.
Ed Larson
I mean, honestly, that all the time.
Henry Zabrowski
Plus size Michael Jackson.
Ed Larson
Does it come with the shoes? So I have to get shoes?
Henry Zabrowski
I don't know. Yeah, just jacket and pants, man. No. Yeah. No shoes. Yeah, you got the shoes on right now.
Ed Larson
Could I do Thriller paint?
Henry Zabrowski
Sure. You mean like, like, like a type of like a brown texture?
Ed Larson
The men's plus size Mao Jackson thriller costume is that. And this comes with the jacket and the pants. And here is a 360.
Henry Zabrowski
All right. Bend it over for me.
Ed Larson
Show it. And for reference, I am a 6 foot male.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
Size 2 XL. And a few things that I have that I love about the costume is the breathable fabric, especially throughout the night when you're dancing. And also the attention, the extra details in the jacket. All right, I'm buying it.
Jackie Zabrowski
And I have never been sold something so quickly before. You know how you have to get that?
Henry Zabrowski
This is where the side stories debate comes down to it. Is it blackface? If the guy is a predator, you're.
Jackie Zabrowski
Not gonna put blackface on.
Henry Zabrowski
He was white at the end.
Jackie Zabrowski
You might have to put a fake nose on. You should try.
Ed Larson
That's a good idea. Well, not when he was in the Thriller jacket. The Thriller jacket didn't have a fake.
Henry Zabrowski
No, that's the problem. Can you dress up as black Michael Jackson? This is when he was half black.
Ed Larson
No, I think it's fine. I'm not going to paint myself.
Henry Zabrowski
Side stories lp. OT elegy.
Ed Larson
I think it's fine. It's a jacket and pants.
Henry Zabrowski
We're giving him Vertiglio spots.
Ed Larson
What do you think? What do you.
Henry Zabrowski
I don't care what anybody says.
Ed Larson
Look at that. Look at that. Look how happy he is.
Jackie Zabrowski
Have you on. Who's the bitch to decide if it is too bitchy to be.
Ed Larson
I love that.
Henry Zabrowski
That's a really good idea. I'd love to hear your audience. I want to hear what your audience says.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah, come on. We're trying to do more. We're trying to bring in more live callers.
Ed Larson
I mean, well, I gotta buy this thing, like, today to get it here.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah, you gotta get it.
Henry Zabrowski
There's a rush option.
Jackie Zabrowski
Wow.
Ed Larson
I don't want rush. That's stupid.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah. He don't know Math Rock.
Henry Zabrowski
That was the thing.
Ed Larson
Because.
Henry Zabrowski
Because I don't want to bust with my costumist. Because we. Because we could do a thing.
Ed Larson
Boston Henry bust by the heels separately.
Henry Zabrowski
They're pimp platform shoes. Whoa.
Jackie Zabrowski
They are not.
Ed Larson
Do they have 13? Do they come in 13?
Jackie Zabrowski
Making Rob do all the work.
Henry Zabrowski
They're 50 bucks.
Ed Larson
50 bucks is a lot for a shitty joke. Well, I guess I can write it all off. Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
Using it for a show.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
What are you talking about? You're gonna wear for a bunch of times. Your anniversary, Julie's birthday, Christmas. There's so many ways for Michael Jackson's Ed Larson's Thriller to fit in.
Jackie Zabrowski
But also those shoes you could wear if you ever wanted to be Peewee Herman, which I think you could also really pull off and. Tequila. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Big Old Boy Herman.
Jackie Zabrowski
Big Boy Herman, Please. Oh, my. Because that's the kind of makeup you could do.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
Oh, maybe I should just do Big old Herman. Wait.
Henry Zabrowski
Hey, let's think about it now. We can't.
Ed Larson
Is it just Herman?
Henry Zabrowski
It's just Herman.
Jackie Zabrowski
But it's called.
Henry Zabrowski
It's just Herman. Yeah, well, we'll see, won't we? We're gonna find out. You're gonna see. If you come over to Humble, so you go to Last Pod Guest and Left, and you buy those tickets to see us live at the Metel Community Center, October 24th.
Ed Larson
That's right. Oh, man, I gotta say, I am so excited for that. And you ever see the horror movie about Michael Jackson leaving Neverland? I'm trying to segue.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
You know who I felt bad for? Who? Finding Neverland. What a good movie.
Jackie Zabrowski
It was a great movie, but I always confused it with Leaving Neverland.
Ed Larson
I feel like it's gotten a bad rap.
Jackie Zabrowski
You don't want to find that. Neverland.
Ed Larson
No.
Henry Zabrowski
You know, honestly, it sounds like for the first couple weeks, Neverland was kind of fun. Yeah, at first, but then you got.
Ed Larson
To do, you know, the construction guys. Do you think they have a clean conscience?
Jackie Zabrowski
No.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, I think they're. They're mostly just, like, very similar to our mother's opinion, which was the idea that at least what she said was that no one. Oh. And I got enlisted. No one took me to an amusement park. So I could see a little bit of the.
Jackie Zabrowski
That is what she. Wasn't that exactly what she said? Literally, Michael Jackson.
Henry Zabrowski
I remember Be like. Because I wanted to know. I remember no one ever took me to an amusement park. Yeah. Yeah. It was. Because it's true. It's like they are. I mean, it's a beautiful. I believe someone bought it.
Ed Larson
Right.
Henry Zabrowski
I won't think like John Mayer.
Ed Larson
No, it's empty. I think. Let's find out for sure. But I'm pretty sure it's empty.
Henry Zabrowski
It's John Mayer. I cut. Or is John Mayer too busy trying to have sex with influencers? John Mayer. Why does he always hit up like comedy influencers to have sex with?
Ed Larson
What are you talking.
Jackie Zabrowski
Because of his fingers? Because he's got a beautiful soul or whatever.
Henry Zabrowski
He just.
Jackie Zabrowski
He.
Henry Zabrowski
There's. That there's some new influencer that he's always with. Some new influencer. Him and BJ Novak, they find. They research. But then it's all.
Ed Larson
It's not that needs to hit people up. I think they come.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah, I think they're coming at him.
Henry Zabrowski
Dude, it's all over the. The gossip rags, dude.
Jackie Zabrowski
It's all fingers for it. I think everybody, you know, everybody is just. They get into how he said.
Ed Larson
What did he say?
Henry Zabrowski
He is hitting her up. Not in a nasty way.
Ed Larson
Slide into her dm.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
Then that's fine. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm not saying. I'm just saying it Just find it.
Ed Larson
Interesting that he's married.
Henry Zabrowski
He's going for all the younger lady.
Jackie Zabrowski
They're of age and they're consenting. And in this day and age. I'll take it.
Ed Larson
It Bubbles is still alive.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, she's 30.
Henry Zabrowski
No, I'm not saying it's young. I don't care about the young thing.
Ed Larson
She's 30.
Henry Zabrowski
I don't care about that. I'm saying that it's just more. It's interesting that that's what he's using. That's what he does.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
It's better than him being on Tinder. I guess he's John Mayer.
Henry Zabrowski
He could be on Raya.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah, but even that, I. I've seen what happens on Raya and it's really not what you're looking for. Although I did see one of the guys from Jersey Shore on their Pauly D. And. But he's not one. Or maybe it was Vinnie. Either way, not the kind of politics anybody I know is going after.
Henry Zabrowski
But I think if you're having sex with Vinny from there, you're not there to talk debate topics. I think you're there to get your cannoli fucking jammed holes.
Jackie Zabrowski
I I unfortunately don't know if that's what he's known for. I think it's more eating a little bit of keto spaghetti.
Henry Zabrowski
Hey, she's a good guy. She's a good guy.
Ed Larson
All right. So Bubbles is safe?
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
Bubbles is in Florida center for great apes. He is too. He's older than both of you.
Henry Zabrowski
Bubbles is doing better than any one of Michael Jackson's other victims.
Ed Larson
Apparently. Bubbles. If you go see Bubbles, he will spit water and throw sand at you.
Henry Zabrowski
It's the cutest thing I've ever seen.
Jackie Zabrowski
Michael Jackson.
Ed Larson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
I. Wow. He's born in 1983.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, he said what month?
Ed Larson
Doesn't say.
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What's his sign?
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Ed Larson
All right.
Henry Zabrowski
Do we want to talk any movies?
Ed Larson
I mean, sure. That's why we're here.
Henry Zabrowski
Have we seen anything that's good?
Jackie Zabrowski
I will throw it out there.
Ed Larson
I saw a couple good ones this time.
Jackie Zabrowski
I and I was trying to watch a couple off of yalls 31 for 31. And I remember specifically I was obsessed with the movie Stir of Echoes when it came out and I couldn't believe that it was on yalls list. Who chose Stir of Echoes? I rewatched it. It is. It's pretty good. It's terrifying for a thriller like the Kevin Bacon. I just remember watching it over. But it's like, why did we watch it so many times? Did you watch it? It was just always on, right?
Henry Zabrowski
It was just always on cable. It was one of those days.
Jackie Zabrowski
Catherine Herb Urbinator's Rise Up. You know, I love her from what About Bob and I love her and Stir of Echoes.
Henry Zabrowski
Is there. Is there literally. Is there a series of Urbinators?
Jackie Zabrowski
No, I.
Henry Zabrowski
Who is she?
Jackie Zabrowski
Katherine Herb, I would say.
Henry Zabrowski
Is that Catherine Herb?
Jackie Zabrowski
No, that's not Catherine Herb.
Henry Zabrowski
The what?
Jackie Zabrowski
The daughter from what about Bob?
Ed Larson
Yeah. I don't remember what she looks like. Really?
Jackie Zabrowski
Urbinators.
Henry Zabrowski
Her Urbinators, Herb? Yes.
Jackie Zabrowski
No, nobody ever thinks about her or thinks about her.
Ed Larson
Well, I think about Julie Haggerty was great.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. Law and Order ladies.
Ed Larson
Oh, cool. No, she either.
Henry Zabrowski
It's funny because I only recognize her from what About Bob?
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah, of course. As a child, just like in Weapons. I was so excited because the scary woman was the girlfriend in Uncle Buck. And I got so excited. Yeah.
Ed Larson
Oh, my God, that's awesome. That's really cool.
Henry Zabrowski
Well. And that's what happens when you suck John Candy's dick. You turn into a witch.
Ed Larson
Yeah. Well, you know. And also, you got Sierra for your pancakes afterwards.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, I know. Honestly, I am pretty. I am emotionally afraid to see the John Candy documentary.
Jackie Zabrowski
I don't know if I can do it.
Ed Larson
Do you know that you find out that his mom really was a caribou?
Henry Zabrowski
Did you watch it yet?
Ed Larson
No.
Jackie Zabrowski
I don't know if I. I don't know if I can do it.
Ed Larson
Of course I'm gonna watch it. I can't wait to cry.
Jackie Zabrowski
I'm going to watch it. But it's gonna be. I. I think it's. I think it's gonna be too much.
Ed Larson
I've already experienced all the John Candy trauma that I could take, so I'm fine watching it.
Jackie Zabrowski
Why?
Henry Zabrowski
What happened to you?
Ed Larson
When he died, my. I was in the middle of a rec game. My mom came up to me at halftime. She's like, eddie, I have to tell you that John Candy died.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, my God.
Ed Larson
In the middle and half.
Jackie Zabrowski
Middle of the game.
Ed Larson
I was like, are you kidding me now?
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, also, Colin Hanks directed it. Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Colin Hanks, who arguably is the most mediocre. I love Colin Hanks. He is by far the most mediocre Nepo baby. But he is doing a good Job. He's extremely mediocre.
Ed Larson
He's done some great shit.
Henry Zabrowski
Like what?
Ed Larson
Like directed and all that stuff.
Henry Zabrowski
He's dop. Exact. What?
Ed Larson
The Orange County. He was great.
Henry Zabrowski
You think that Orange County's enough?
Ed Larson
Orange County? No, I don't think it's enough. I think he's done lots of stuff. Amanda. Brothers.
Henry Zabrowski
He's fine in Abandoned Brothers.
Ed Larson
Good.
Henry Zabrowski
In Fargo. He's fine in Fargo.
Ed Larson
I never watched Fargo.
Henry Zabrowski
He's fine. I liked Fargo. I actually did watch a bunch of Fergo.
Ed Larson
Oh yeah, you actually watch television?
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, that one I watched. Look at that.
Ed Larson
Yeah, yeah, but.
Henry Zabrowski
But he's fine. He's just. Yeah, he's just whatever. But he's did the John Candy thing because he got that he has the ins. He's the only one. But he's the only one that could talk to.
Ed Larson
Because I guess he's Tom Hanks's son. He understands like. Like being the child of a fucking icon.
Jackie Zabrowski
And it's also supposed to be very good. It's getting very good reviews.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, it's about John Candy. Of course it's going to be good there. I think it's. Fuck. It's like shooting fish in a goddamn barrel. What are we going to do here? Is it going to. If he's going to make. It is going to suck. He's going to make this. Like think about John Candy's is going to suck. No, it's not. It's John Candy. It's people talking about John Candy. You could just let the camera run.
Jackie Zabrowski
You got to do anything. But I will say if you're talking about mediocre people, I annoyed that Ryan Reynolds is one of the producers of this and he's going out and.
Henry Zabrowski
I know, but he's claiming John Candy.
Jackie Zabrowski
So fucking annoying.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm so blaming him.
Jackie Zabrowski
I'm done. But it's fun.
Henry Zabrowski
But I also. I am glad that they brought this to the world. I don't need his stupid little glasses. But also, thank you to Mint Mobile for all the money.
Ed Larson
Oh my God. Did you know the other documentary that Colin Hanks made that I'm scared to watch?
Jackie Zabrowski
What?
Ed Larson
The Eagles of Death met. They were the band at the Bata Clan when it got shot up in Paris. Oh, interesting. I wonder what that documentary is like. If they. If the. If that whole documentary. I didn't even know this existed. If they don't mention the shooting and they just do it as like a. It's like a puff piece on the band. That would be incredible.
Henry Zabrowski
I legitimately could see Colin Hanks doing something like that?
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yeah. Before, during, and after the terrorist event. Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
Okay.
Henry Zabrowski
That'll be interesting. Yeah. We should talk. Like, honestly, we should cover that. That good for Colin Hanks?
Ed Larson
Yeah, I think he's cool.
Henry Zabrowski
He's fine. He's doing better than just, you know, he's doing fine.
Ed Larson
But anyway, we're supposed to be talking about Stir.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
St what I like about Sir Echo.
Ed Larson
I like how we're all more scared of the John Candy documentary than any movie.
Henry Zabrowski
Any movie.
Ed Larson
Went for 31.
Jackie Zabrowski
He is. I'm terrified of it.
Henry Zabrowski
But I. The watching skirt Stir of Echoes made me realize, thankfully, he's not Ethan Hawk, because we already black phone 2 on here. And then I also had Sinister on here. And then when I put Stir of Echoes on, at first, I was like. It was watching a. I was very afraid. I was like, oh, is this gonna be all. Ethan Hawke, the new king of horror. I love him.
Ed Larson
I love him out of nowhere.
Henry Zabrowski
But Kevin Bacon's really good. Kevin Bacon's very, very.
Ed Larson
He's very good.
Jackie Zabrowski
And actually, I saw Sinister not that long ago, and I remember. I think. I think came out in, like, 2012. It was like, the best horror movie of 2012. And I was like, man, did 2012 suck that bad?
Henry Zabrowski
You know, I now, like, like it. I'm with it better. I like it better now on this last re watching.
Jackie Zabrowski
Really.
Henry Zabrowski
Because you know what? It was every once in a while, like, I'll take a. A step back because I'd seen Sinister a bunch. Sinister's one of those movies like Natalie and I.
Jackie Zabrowski
Tape is scary. I'll give it to that.
Ed Larson
I mean, the tape Sinister scared the out of me.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah, it's very scary.
Ed Larson
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
But Natalie and I do a thing like when we're in hotels, it's like, you know, one of our favorite things is, like, if everyone's got their comfort watches and we like to put on whatever kind of horror movie that's either on or you can rent. And Sinister is one of those much like It Chapter two. Much like Doctor Sleep that is always available for rent in a hotel room for some reason. So we have seen Sinister so many times.
Ed Larson
Doctor Sleep's awesome.
Henry Zabrowski
I love Doctor So great. I love Doctor that's like an action movie. I would put it as, like.
Jackie Zabrowski
It's like a thriller.
Henry Zabrowski
Sci fi.
Ed Larson
Horror thriller.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. I love that. I love Dr. Dr. Just like. But Sinister like this. I was like. I try to sit and re. Watch it with, like, fresh eyes. We just talked to Scott Derrickson I was like, all right, let me relook at this.
Jackie Zabrowski
Okay.
Henry Zabrowski
And to be honest, what I liked about it at this point was that it was funny for 2012 to do a commentary about true crime authors.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Because it was before all of the pop. And he was like. That was the whole angle. I, like, even kind of forgot about it, was that Ethan Hawke was this like. Like, true crime writer, and he was lying to his family.
Ed Larson
And so many movies and horror movies that are about a writer and about. It's just like, can you stop writing about yourself and get creative?
Henry Zabrowski
Ask Seth Rogan to do the same thing. But they win a lot of awards.
Ed Larson
That's why they do it. I mean, the studio was unbelievable.
Henry Zabrowski
Hollywood likes things about itself.
Ed Larson
They always have.
Henry Zabrowski
They always have.
Jackie Zabrowski
The studio won a bunch. I mean, it was great.
Ed Larson
It won the most awards.
Henry Zabrowski
But they, like, specifically like stuff about themselves because they love to hear about themselves. Yeah.
Ed Larson
So do I. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
I mean, I guess I'm done with some comedians.
Ed Larson
How did you feel about the. The first new Halloween movie with the podcasters?
Henry Zabrowski
I liked it.
Ed Larson
I actually liked it, too.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
I was right. As soon as I saw it, I groaned, and then I was like. And then it grew on me immediately.
Jackie Zabrowski
Pretty good.
Henry Zabrowski
The only movie that features podcasters that I really kind of took vaguely offense to, which is still very funny, is Tusk. That was the first one that came down.
Ed Larson
No, because Godzilla's pretty bad.
Henry Zabrowski
That was just bad. Tusk was the first one that said podcasters are obnoxious.
Ed Larson
Well, they are.
Henry Zabrowski
That was like, but they are. But it was the first one that said.
Ed Larson
But it also came from a podcast.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
The whole movie wouldn't exist without podcasts.
Henry Zabrowski
Exactly. So it was making fun of itself.
Jackie Zabrowski
Jake, now are you guys. You brought up it. Chapter two. And I know you don't like shows, and I know that it's not.
Henry Zabrowski
I can't wait for. Welcome to Darius.
Ed Larson
You're gonna watch it. Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
Welcome to Daring.
Ed Larson
Wait for people to tell me it's good before I watch it.
Henry Zabrowski
I watch all Stephen King things. I saw that one show. What was the Shawshank Show. I saw. That was the one. The other characters. Castle Rock. I watched Castle Rock. It was fine. First, he's actually. Yeah, no, it's good. It's fine. I watch all Stephen King. Like, again, if I. Very few extended universes I choose. One of the extended universes. I choose is Stephen King Extended Universe. And that has been a thing that has now been slopped up for me.
Ed Larson
And I do in the burger King Extended Universe.
Jackie Zabrowski
Did you see the Long Walk?
Henry Zabrowski
Long walk was wonderful.
Jackie Zabrowski
Long walk was. I didn't know, like, I, I. I knew that half boy was in it, and that made me very excited.
Ed Larson
He was really killing this about the end of Forrest Gump. Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
When he's just slowing down, people just walking behind him and, like, make another shirt.
Henry Zabrowski
I was underwhelmed with. With Hoff Boyd Jr. In licorice pizza, but he changed my mind.
Jackie Zabrowski
Boy killed a long walk.
Henry Zabrowski
But Hoff boy did a really good job on this.
Ed Larson
He.
Henry Zabrowski
I. Surprise. Truly surprised. And then in that movie, there was like. Like the first times I really saw flashes of his father in his face.
Ed Larson
Do you think he started doing heroin?
Henry Zabrowski
I hope. What do you think made his father great? Do it. Need it. You don't do it, Cooper.
Jackie Zabrowski
You don't need it.
Ed Larson
Do it.
Henry Zabrowski
Follow the dragon. No. Long Walk was awesome, man. It.
Jackie Zabrowski
I. Yeah.
Ed Larson
Stir of Echoes, by the way, we've not talked about it. We mentioned it four times.
Jackie Zabrowski
Please. Sorry.
Ed Larson
Also spoilers. But, yeah, that movie is very upsetting. It's very. It's very brutal. Stir of Echoes. Yes, it was. I was very upset about how upsetting it was, and I hadn't seen it since high school, and I watched it in high school. Another. Another stupid story, but I was on acid with the worst person I knew, and it was the middle of the night, and then he was like, let's watch Stir of Echoes. And I was like, what? Stir of Echoes. He's like, it's very fun, funny.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, no.
Ed Larson
And then we put it on, and I was, like, out of my mind on acid, because this is 1990s acid, you know? So we're just like, we're flipping out. And I watch Stir of Echoes, and I still have the fingernails popping off her like it's embedded in my brain. I haven't even watched it yet in our. On our 31. For 31. I haven't been able to watch it since I was, like, 16. That's awesome. And I. It's, like, embedded in my horror brain.
Jackie Zabrowski
Are you gonna eat a bunch of acid when you watch it this time?
Ed Larson
I'll eat mushrooms.
Jackie Zabrowski
Okay. I mean, you should have. You want to see if it really affects you the same way.
Henry Zabrowski
I think he actually needs an anti acid.
Ed Larson
Do you? I take that every morning.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
Thank you, Omeprazole, for all that you do for me. But yeah, Survec. I'm very excited. I want to make Julie watch it because she loves Kevin Bacon.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, she's going to. And he Looks so good, man. He looked good then. Looks even better now.
Henry Zabrowski
He's a great actor. He's a great performer.
Ed Larson
Know what I love?
Henry Zabrowski
Mediocre musician Kevin.
Ed Larson
Yeah, Kevin Bacon. Bacon Brothers. You know, what do you. What do you expect? They're Bruce Willis, the band.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
It's like going to see Keanu Reeves in concert. It's for the fucking novelty. Oh, I get was the Dog Star. But anyway, so like, didn't you see Dog Star?
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah, well, no. And I saw. I saw the Hollywood Vampires. Johnny Depp fan that was with. It was like a.
Ed Larson
Was that the one where Joe Perry got taken off?
Jackie Zabrowski
Yes, that was the one where he had like the. The like an episode on stage while he was performing and they had to like take him off and they didn't say anything during the concert. We're all like, what happened to Joe Par. Like what happened to him? But I. And then he. I went right into the hospital. So they didn't stop the show.
Henry Zabrowski
No, you just gotta.
Ed Larson
Joe Perry or Steve Perry.
Henry Zabrowski
Steve Perry's from Journey. Joe Perry's from Aerosmith.
Ed Larson
Got it. It was Joe Perry. But anyway, Stir that Goes and Alice.
Jackie Zabrowski
Cooper, by the way. I mean it was quite, quite a super band.
Ed Larson
Oh yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, they were a bit lazy and it's fine. Johnny Depp was my favorite because it was like there he would just stroll out with a guitar and just strum it once.
Ed Larson
Stir of Echoes.
Jackie Zabrowski
People throw in their underpants. Yeah, he's just hanging the underpants off of his guitars. Oh yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
You know what I watched that blew me away. That I couldn't believe was as intense as it was was Frenzy.
Ed Larson
Oh, you watched it?
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
I haven't seen it yet.
Henry Zabrowski
I have never seen Alfred Hitchcock's Frenzy.
Jackie Zabrowski
Me neither.
Ed Larson
It's one of the few Alfred Hitchcock I haven't seen.
Henry Zabrowski
I've never seen it.
Jackie Zabrowski
So like. Like set the stage. Why is this so great?
Henry Zabrowski
Well, it's.
Ed Larson
Don't spoil too much.
Henry Zabrowski
It's a serial killer thriller and it is straight up a slasher. It has. Has probably one of the most intense rape murder scenes I've seen since A Death Wish. Where it is especially for a movie set in 1972.
Announcer
It is.
Ed Larson
They did it a lot back then. There was lots of rape and murder scenes in 70s.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, you know what it was too is this. This lead actor managed to. It's about a. A guy called the Necktie Killer.
Ed Larson
Okay.
Henry Zabrowski
And it's about going after the. It sets up a red herring like guy and then you follow the real guy that's the necktie killer. And it's very Hitchcock. It's very, very Hitcock Hitchcock. It's very brutal. And there's one. The scene in it where the only way to really describe it, it's the classiest expression I've ever seen of a man coming his own pants. Really. There is a moment in this movie, like there's a moment in this movie movie that it's the best acted man coming in his pants sequence that I've ever seen. Like, it's so. Because you don't even realize what makes it so good. It's just, you know what it is is that like now when we do coming in pants, right. Like in these days, see, the guy did it in such a subtle evil. Like it was the most evil coming of pants that I've ever, ever seen.
Ed Larson
I can't wait to watch it.
Henry Zabrowski
He's so good in it. The guy's so definitely alone.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
But the movie really, it just reminds me of that. It was like. It's the only Hitchcock movie with open blood and nudity. So it's a lot of like he modernizes the movie. Okay. It's. Apparently it was after a long string of kind of like flops for him. So when he had made a couple of these movies. Because I also didn't really appreciate until I was researching it. This might be saying a lot. Obviously correct me, because I don't quite know, but correct. It does seem like he was almost like the Tarantino of his day where. Oh yeah, Hitchcock was such an exciting but also exploitive filmmaker and that this seemed to be return to form for him.
Ed Larson
You know, Hitchcock, the. What I always go back to, it's. They asked what makes his movie so scary and he said three words. Torture the women. Because he's like. Once you like make the women like uncomfortable in the movie, that's honestly what starts scaring people.
Henry Zabrowski
And.
Ed Larson
Because if you're just killing dudes, no one cares.
Henry Zabrowski
Nobody cares. He also changed pop culture and he changed the way. There's a sequence in this movie that is the one of the most ornate, beautifully shot, like chase sequences. You just also forget. I will say when you watch it, the pace is not what one is used to. This is the goodbye Babs shot. Very famous shot, apparently that I didn't know that he. Because after he does the first, he's very smart and scary.
Jackie Zabrowski
Scary.
Henry Zabrowski
Because what he does is he plays the first kill in full detail and then as they subsequently go, he then, you know what happens. Oh, so then he hides it in A really artistic way. He's just. Obviously, he's a master filmmaker. And you watch it, it was like, oh, this is what slasher movies like can be.
Ed Larson
Yes. No, I mean, Hitchcock's the dude. Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
Even Psycho has its flaws. I think that Frenzy has just got. I mean, it's got its pacing issues, but that's just because it's a film from 1972.
Ed Larson
He started it. It's the first of. He did the.
Henry Zabrowski
Everything.
Ed Larson
You know, he did like the first spy movies. He did the first of everything.
Henry Zabrowski
We created like that. That idea of that big tent pole, like crime movie, like, you know, north by Northwest.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
That created so much stuff. Like, it is interesting to see that, like, there's certain things where it's. Especially now that I'm in full Criterion hold.
Ed Larson
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
All I'm doing is watching Criterion movies and you start to realize everything's ripped off. Of course we. And everything's been done everything so many different ways. And it's just. But also, also you. Then it shows me to the other side of what the education and music and film does, which is. Fills the artist with reference points. And that's kind of the thing, is that sometimes guys make stuff up originally, but then the rest of us. The rest of us are going to go running with it. But then you look at somebody like Kiwasawa, a lot of those, like older Asian movies that you see, a lot of it. Christopher Nolan stole. Of course. Nolan drank their milkshake. You know me.
Ed Larson
Like, they all did. They learned from them. They steal.
Henry Zabrowski
No, exactly. No. Great artists steal.
Ed Larson
Yeah, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
That's why they say that.
Ed Larson
I mean, Hitchcock totally influenced Spielberg. It's all over the place. I mean, the most famous shot from Jaws is the Vertigo shot.
Henry Zabrowski
It's awesome.
Ed Larson
And then Jaws is like kind of like the birds in a way, you know, so it's like it's very much taken. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
It's just, it's. I find it fascinating that it all takes one portly man.
Ed Larson
Now terrorize all. John Finn Finch, the lead in Frenzy. You know what else he was the lead in that old school Macbeth from the seventies. He was Macbeth. The one with that crazy fight scene at the end. That's one of the best fight scenes I think I've ever seen at the end of that old Macbeth.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yeah. He's a great old school character actor. John Fish.
Ed Larson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's great, man. I love that, man.
Jackie Zabrowski
Speaking of movies that I guess people took from. Eventually I finally saw them.
Announcer
Them.
Jackie Zabrowski
The. The movie. Henry movie? No, them is a French Romanian horror movie that Henry has been telling me to watch for like two years.
Ed Larson
Okay.
Jackie Zabrowski
And it was ever since he watched it that it is essentially about a home invasion movie. It's a French horror film that I couldn't find anywhere.
Henry Zabrowski
The Strangers is loosely based on.
Jackie Zabrowski
So that's what I was saying that it was like. Strangers came out in 2008. This one came out in 2000. This one. It is an hour and ten minutes long.
Ed Larson
Love it. So Strangers should have been that long.
Jackie Zabrowski
Exactly. This is exactly what I'm saying is that they took so many and like, I like the Strangers. But then you watch them and it is a very similar and very succinctly made movie that is just in and out, very upsetting and just leaves you wanting more, I guess. And it is, you know, of course, loosely based on a real story and not a story I want to be living.
Ed Larson
I think home invasion movies are my least favorite type of horror.
Jackie Zabrowski
Really?
Ed Larson
Cuz they upset me so much. Oh, okay. I was about to like, actually like, I don't think that they're bad as much as I just get really upset.
Jackie Zabrowski
Very.
Henry Zabrowski
Dude, you want to never watch Hush. You know what? You should.
Ed Larson
I saw Hush.
Henry Zabrowski
Hush is great when she.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh my God.
Ed Larson
Look just like Amber.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, yes. Yeah, scarily so.
Henry Zabrowski
You know what? You should watch for your own own limit testing.
Ed Larson
I don't think I need to test limits. I'm fine.
Henry Zabrowski
Maybe next year I'll make them do this. Maybe I'll make a limit testing 1. Make him see funny games because I don't know. Yeah, the Michael Hanicky funny game. I think I saw the new one and it's like. It's.
Ed Larson
It is on their heads or something, right?
Jackie Zabrowski
It's. There's something about the.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, yeah, they got back there.
Ed Larson
Yeah, I saw the new one.
Henry Zabrowski
The new one is nowhere near. I feel like I. I've never seen.
Ed Larson
Didn't he make the movie? Tw. Isn't that the cool thing about it?
Jackie Zabrowski
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
I haven't seen the original in so long that I don't even remember it. But it's like the worst of the. The. The worst of the intensities of the home invasion films.
Ed Larson
You know what? The most. Still to this day, the most intense, like, home invasion like scene, even though it was a hotel room. Devil's Rejects. Oh, the beginning of Devil's Rejects. It's so upsetting.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh yeah.
Ed Larson
It's so hated so much. Oh my God. What a aggravating scene. Couldn't handle it, man.
Henry Zabrowski
And the sheriff in that movie was in the. Tom Savini Night of the Living Dead.
Ed Larson
And so was Bill Mosley.
Henry Zabrowski
Yep. And so Night of the Living Dead, which is one of my. I actually, I enjoyed the hell out of it. I rewatched the Thomas Night of Living Dead and I actually think it's one of my favorite. It is.
Ed Larson
It moved up because the first one's kind of boring. Yeah, that's also another case of. Romero directed both of those. Oh, no, no. Savini, he, he, he rewrote it with him and produced it. Yes.
Jackie Zabrowski
And I just saw Day of the Dead for the first time.
Henry Zabrowski
You'd never seen it.
Jackie Zabrowski
You know what? I'm not a huge zombie person and I forget that. Like I.
Henry Zabrowski
Because we have. We got zombie fatigue.
Jackie Zabrowski
But then it's like you throw on like a Zombies don't train to Busan or something like that. It's like that. It was like, yeah, you know, the 28 days later, it's like, yeah, give me that. And so I was like, I need to go back and watch more of the original like Night of Living Dead. So I'm kind of throwing myself into it and I am it.
Henry Zabrowski
So you saw Day of the Dead or Dawn of the Day.
Jackie Zabrowski
Is that the one in the mall? No, not. I've seen the one in the mall.
Henry Zabrowski
Day of the Dead is the one where they're stuck in the apartment building. Yes.
Ed Larson
I haven't seen that one.
Jackie Zabrowski
And I. But so I, I didn't realize. Oh no. They're in the underground bunker. That's what it is. Oh my God. When they're in the bunker and I. So all of them. I didn't understand that all of them were like different chapters.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Jackie Zabrowski
It made me feel very stupid. But this is why you go back and you watch the original. Because I was always saying, I'm not big zombies. I'm not big. But then I'll watch great zombie movies. And I'm like, but this is great.
Ed Larson
Yeah, the movie called Zombies. Really good too.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, each one sort of follows cuz Night of Living Dead kind of when it starts, Day of the Dead is like after it. And then dawn of the Dead is like once the whole world has sort of been occupied.
Jackie Zabrowski
Correct.
Henry Zabrowski
And dawn of the Dead is probably the best zombie movie ever made besides. Wow. Eight days later.
Jackie Zabrowski
God, 28 days.
Ed Larson
20 days later is pretty good. 28 years later is awesome.
Henry Zabrowski
28 years later was.
Ed Larson
Oh, it was very good. It was very, very good. Now I want to say, if we.
Henry Zabrowski
Were spoiled this year, buddy, I got to tell you.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, God, it was so good this year, man.
Henry Zabrowski
This year was a very special year for horror movies. I think this was like.
Ed Larson
It was a really good one. The Wall to Wall 83 draft for quarterbacks.
Henry Zabrowski
Dude. I just really like even. Just thinking about it between. Even Eddington I'd almost put in there. And you got 28 years later, sinners, bring them back. Weapons like, holy shit.
Ed Larson
I mean, bring her back. Still the best one for me.
Henry Zabrowski
I still haven't seen vhs Halloween. I'm waiting for closer to Halloween.
Ed Larson
Yeah. Okay, now, before we get too far off of this topic here, I. The other. My favorite movie that I saw off of our list was this week so far. And that's also George Romero. Tom Savini, Creep Show.
Henry Zabrowski
I love that he's never seen it.
Ed Larson
I never saw it. I thought. I thought I saw it. Like, it was one of those things where I thought I had seen it. I like, tricked my brain. Tricked itself.
Jackie Zabrowski
He knew so much from it.
Ed Larson
I. I loved it. Loved it. It was so good. The monkey.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Do you recognize the little boy at the beginning? No.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, yeah.
Ed Larson
It's Joe Hill.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
But also, it's a reminder that Leslie Nielsen's frightening, that him and Ted Danson section is so.
Ed Larson
It's great.
Henry Zabrowski
It also shows why even Liam Neeson's close. But no one will replace Leslie Neilson. Frank Drebin you can't replace. No, of course he's close.
Ed Larson
He didn't try to. He plays a son. And the sun's never as good.
Henry Zabrowski
No, never, never, never. But, man, Leslie Nielsen's so great.
Jackie Zabrowski
That's the one with the roach. The roach one.
Henry Zabrowski
Right.
Ed Larson
Halbrick.
Henry Zabrowski
And then Father's Day, which is also a wonderful segment.
Jackie Zabrowski
I thought you meant the Billy Crystal Robin Williams movie.
Henry Zabrowski
That's a horror movie.
Ed Larson
No, that's a horror movie.
Henry Zabrowski
No, it's just such a good. Yeah, because it's just the best. It's just love.
Ed Larson
Where's my cake?
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Ed Larson
No, I haven't. I'm very excited for our second Leslie Nielsen movie on the list. Repossessed.
Henry Zabrowski
Repossessed.
Ed Larson
Have you seen that yet, Jackie?
Jackie Zabrowski
No, I haven't.
Ed Larson
Oh, repossessed.
Henry Zabrowski
You will. You have, but you don't remember.
Ed Larson
It's because this parody Repossessed. Oh.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh. Oh. I didn't realize it was called oh. We saw this movie all the time.
Henry Zabrowski
Is the first time I saw breasts.
Ed Larson
Oh.
Henry Zabrowski
In a film.
Jackie Zabrowski
What about this movie? Oh, I'm gonna watch this. Yeah.
Ed Larson
Devil in a Blue Dress.
Henry Zabrowski
Blue Dr.
Jackie Zabrowski
You are just bringing up so much. I remember thinking that this was the Exorcist. Like, I thought that I seen the.
Ed Larson
Exorcist way more than the Exorcist.
Henry Zabrowski
Very much. Oh, and also, I will say we are really breaking the mold, though, for what you'd normally consider a horror comedy. Because in my mind, the reason why we chose to repossess is because I just want to see it.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
But I would not call it necessary. It's a comedy. It's not a horror. Yeah, a spoof. So to me, it's just fun to do. It's fun to celebrate Leslie Nielsen, and that's why we're doing it. But like, to me, a true fantastic horror comedy is 50 50.
Ed Larson
Right. Like Tucker and Dale.
Henry Zabrowski
Tucker and Dale and. Or the number one, which is Ghostbusters.
Ed Larson
I never saw.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, Ghostbusters is the number one of.
Ed Larson
All kind of scary.
Henry Zabrowski
It is. It's Genu and also was written by a man who was an expert in the field.
Ed Larson
Is army of Darkness a horror comedy or is it just a comedy?
Henry Zabrowski
No, I view it as a horror comedy.
Jackie Zabrowski
A horror comedy.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
Okay, good.
Jackie Zabrowski
I. So you haven't seen it yet, Eddie, but have you seen it in life? Kill List is on your list.
Henry Zabrowski
I put this on again just to challenge Eddie.
Ed Larson
No, I haven't seen it.
Henry Zabrowski
He's going to love Kill Us, though.
Jackie Zabrowski
Really?
Ed Larson
It might be one of the ones I skip.
Henry Zabrowski
No, you're going to, like, Kill Us.
Jackie Zabrowski
No, you. It's actually also a very good.
Ed Larson
Whenever you tell me you can't wait for me to see it, I'm always, like, got scared.
Jackie Zabrowski
Violence in this. It's a great story. It's also like a crime story.
Ed Larson
Like, I like the crime.
Jackie Zabrowski
You're going to to like. You are going to like this.
Henry Zabrowski
You're going to like this one. What was the one with Joaquin Phoenix where he plays the hitman?
Ed Larson
Oh, the one with the hammers.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
I love that movie.
Henry Zabrowski
Similar in vibe to that. I was never really there or something like that.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, my God. Yeah, that is.
Henry Zabrowski
That is. It is truly very similar in tone.
Ed Larson
I missed that director. She did that. And we need to talk about Kevin.
Jackie Zabrowski
I think about. We need to talk about Kevin all the time.
Ed Larson
It's great.
Jackie Zabrowski
One of those movies that whenever I think anybody, I think you were never really here.
Ed Larson
Lyn Ramsey. Lynn. Lyn L. Ramsey is her name. All right, cool. Yeah. I want to see what else I haven't seen. Die, my love. That's new movie.
Henry Zabrowski
She's only made horrific films.
Ed Larson
Oh, she's got a new movie coming. Is it out? Whoa. Let's find out about this.
Jackie Zabrowski
I want to watch this.
Ed Larson
How do we not know about this?
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. It looks like it's November 7th.
Ed Larson
Tootsie's birthday.
Jackie Zabrowski
On Tootsie's birthday.
Henry Zabrowski
Should we go?
Jackie Zabrowski
She's 18.
Ed Larson
She can go.
Jackie Zabrowski
I love.
Henry Zabrowski
We can bring it to the vet when we put her down.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, that's one. It's an American.
Henry Zabrowski
We can get a video of it.
Jackie Zabrowski
Black comedy.
Henry Zabrowski
Lawrence.
Ed Larson
Oh, Robert Pat. SC produced it. Le Stanfield. Nick, no.
Jackie Zabrowski
Nick, no.
Ed Larson
Why did it have Stanfield? All right. It must be horrible if we didn't heard anything about.
Jackie Zabrowski
Distributed by Moby.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, dude. Yeah, it's probably bad here.
Ed Larson
Saw the Hammer movie and that was great.
Henry Zabrowski
That was good. But it. It was uneven. But this is the storyline, so I really add. In a forgotten patch of countryside.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, no.
Henry Zabrowski
A woman is battling her days. Demons. Embracing exclusion, yet wanting to belong. Craving freedom whilst feeling trapped.
Ed Larson
Got a standing ovation at Khan.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. It's because they were tired of sitting. Yearning for family life but wanting to burn the entire house.
Ed Larson
I'm ready for this.
Henry Zabrowski
Given surprising leeway by her family for increasingly erratic behavior, she nevertheless feels ever more stifled and repressed.
Ed Larson
She's only made badass moves.
Henry Zabrowski
I know.
Ed Larson
I mean, what makes you think this one's gonna suck?
Jackie Zabrowski
I thought Jennifer Lawrence at first was like, no, she hasn't.
Henry Zabrowski
But yeah, it's just Jennifer Lawrence. It's the mother curse.
Ed Larson
A mother was great.
Henry Zabrowski
I thought it was good.
Ed Larson
I love Mother.
Henry Zabrowski
It made me a mother.
Ed Larson
I think you don't love when a movie makes you upset. Here's great thing I like talking about.
Henry Zabrowski
Sometimes it works if.
Ed Larson
If it. If it really makes you upset. Like mother. I always use mother as this example cuz so many people like, I hate Mother.
Henry Zabrowski
I.
Ed Larson
And they go crazy. I was like, if it made you feel all of this, it worked. Does that not make it great?
Henry Zabrowski
Exactly. I said the same thing. I said the same thing afterwards with Marcus and I got into a little bit of a debate about Eddington because Marcus was just like, I hated that movie. Made me feel it. And it was like, yeah, it's awesome.
Ed Larson
The point.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, it's awesome.
Ed Larson
Yeah, it's supposed to make you feel like, you know what movie made me feel like and it sucks. Exorcist two of the. It's very bad. God, that movie was bad.
Henry Zabrowski
It's quite bad.
Ed Larson
I remember thinking I was so scared of it when I saw it as a child. Because I always remembered like the scene where she's like holding the heart. That scared the fucking shit out of me as a child.
Jackie Zabrowski
Good.
Ed Larson
And then I watched. I watched. Not only is it so bad. It was so bad that I researched it a little bit. It was a disaster on set. Oh, I bet it was a total disaster. The dude was hammered the whole time. Time she was showing up late, all up on drugs.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
It was like the whole thing was like a disaster.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh yeah. But you know what isn't a disaster? What you told me to watch last night and I did and I'm so happy I did. Is Dead Snow.
Ed Larson
Godamn. I love that movie.
Henry Zabrowski
You know what I realized about Dead Snow is that I, you know, I realized they didn't. It was a big Nazis pop culture. You would love it. It's a pop cultural turning point for Norwegian films. Right?
Ed Larson
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I wanted to stay on brand, you know, like how do we watch Stephen King movie? I tried to pick, but you shot me down.
Henry Zabrowski
Was at pupil only just because it's more. I view it more as a thriller than a horror movie.
Ed Larson
It said Stephen King movie.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
On the list. I do agree. Frenzies. More frenzies. But I would kind of. I like going more into the creepy Crawley when you can get to it. But with Dead Snow. Dead Snow's largely an action movie. But what's great about it is that it definitely has Cabin of the woods vibe because. Because you can tell that it was made. It's a movie movie that features American movie references. Like that. There's a one dude that's like the movie nerd in the movie and it's peppering the movie with like American movie references. And then they're playing off the references like they do the like. Cut. They do like an Evil Dead reference. They do like a couple of things within it that are really, really fun and like very self aware and really funny.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
But then it features what we're going to be covering in this week's episode of Himmler.
Ed Larson
I got a little bit of a.
Henry Zabrowski
Spoiler spoiler is the Einsatzgruppen.
Ed Larson
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
Which is the killing groups of the Nazis that would go by and kill people indiscriminately. The Einsense Groupen is our Nazi zombies in the film.
Ed Larson
Yeah. It was awesome. I've seen it a couple times now. It's. It's brutal too. It's so bloody. They do such a great job.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, you know What I will say I do wish that there was more. I wish there was more. How's the sequel? Have you guys seen the sequel? No. It's got an 80% on rotten tomato.
Ed Larson
Okay. All right, I'll check it out.
Henry Zabrowski
Honestly, because I love Dead Snow. Dead Snow 1. I believe Dead Snow 2 is good because they do add more because it's just. I just wanted even more.
Ed Larson
Are these the same people who did Sisu?
Jackie Zabrowski
God, Sisu was cool.
Henry Zabrowski
There's a new Sisu.
Ed Larson
Which one? Sisu. Sisu, the guy who like. Yeah, Sisu's movie. You got.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yeah, Cesu. I forgot about.
Jackie Zabrowski
They made Ra. Rare exports.
Ed Larson
I love Rare exports.
Jackie Zabrowski
I think is that.
Ed Larson
Oh yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Sisu is awesome. I forgot about Sisu.
Jackie Zabrowski
No, not the same people.
Ed Larson
I'm just being C2 looks unbelievable.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, you're being rich against.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, no, I am right. I am right.
Ed Larson
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is unbelievable, everyone.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, so the people did that. Snow did do Rare exports.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
It was a great movie.
Ed Larson
Yeah, they're both great.
Jackie Zabrowski
Rare exports, great. But Sisu, you're gonna live.
Henry Zabrowski
I actually really love when Eastern European humor comes into these movies. They said, well, is this. I guess this is Scandinavian, but I love it when there's like that touch of humor within it. Cuz to me, that's what they learn best from American filmmakers. Eddie, there's a sprinkle on your head.
Ed Larson
A sprinkle like, Sprinkle like.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, there is a sprinkle on your. It was not there before.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Why is there. How did a sprinkle get on your.
Jackie Zabrowski
Are you eating ice cream over there?
Henry Zabrowski
Do you have a donut in your pocket? It's on your head.
Jackie Zabrowski
It's gone.
Ed Larson
I don't believe you. There's no sprinkles on your.
Jackie Zabrowski
You just wiped your.
Henry Zabrowski
Hey, we could play.
Jackie Zabrowski
It wasn't a sprinkle. Just like a black thing.
Henry Zabrowski
I donut out of your pocket. Like a big fat piece of.
Ed Larson
I wish.
Jackie Zabrowski
Give me the donuts.
Ed Larson
I was Sprinkles. I, I. Oh, you know what I had?
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, it's coming from your headphones.
Ed Larson
Oh, it's coming from my headphones.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, it's materials on the headphones. Oh, he got candy in his headphones. Are falling apart.
Ed Larson
Sprinkled.
Henry Zabrowski
You got some stuff in your beard now too.
Ed Larson
Fell out. I did have a little pumpkin thing, so maybe it came from that little pumpkin bread from. From Starbucks. Oh, my God. I got recognized at Starbucks.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where they were like, it was a round Table fan. He's big fat. That's the big fat man.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, wow.
Announcer
It was very nice.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
Yeah. And I was. It was like when we. I was taking. He was like, I'm a round table fan, you know, So I was like, oh, man, I'm going to take Holden's daughter to the goddamn petting zoo right now. You know?
Jackie Zabrowski
Hell yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
That's really sweet.
Jackie Zabrowski
That's sweet.
Ed Larson
Shout out to Alex. Yeah, but it. Who cares?
Jackie Zabrowski
Shout outs to Halloween 3. I see Halloween 3 is on your list.
Ed Larson
It.
Jackie Zabrowski
And are you anti it?
Henry Zabrowski
I'm not anti it. I just.
Ed Larson
You're the one who made us do it.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, I think it's.
Ed Larson
I wanted to do one of the other ones.
Henry Zabrowski
See, I view Halloween film as a Halloween based movie versus one of the Halloween franchises.
Ed Larson
You're a dense. It says it's a list of 31 movies.
Henry Zabrowski
I think that Halloween film. I think it can be interpreted many ways.
Ed Larson
So you think we should do the goddamn.
Henry Zabrowski
No, it's because they say.
Ed Larson
They say everyone go, it's my say.
Henry Zabrowski
A Friday the 13th film. They say a Wes Craven film. They don't say a John. They do say a John Carpenter film.
Jackie Zabrowski
Why are you upset about it? Just because it is like. It veers from the rest of the Halloweens.
Henry Zabrowski
I love it.
Ed Larson
I. I don't know. It's a good movie.
Henry Zabrowski
I love Halloween.
Ed Larson
I think we talked about it last week a little bit.
Henry Zabrowski
It's very anti Halloween.
Ed Larson
Racist towards Irish people.
Jackie Zabrowski
Well, it is Silver Shamrock. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
You know, because again, it's because.
Jackie Zabrowski
Camera.
Henry Zabrowski
It's because you go to the town.
Ed Larson
It's a bunch of Irish people trying to kill all the children.
Henry Zabrowski
It's because the tradition of Samhain comes from Ireland.
Jackie Zabrowski
You got to kill.
Henry Zabrowski
That is why they do it.
Ed Larson
That's why they do it.
Jackie Zabrowski
Watkins.
Henry Zabrowski
I kind of got weapons vibes from it a little bit. Yes.
Ed Larson
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
And it is a little. I will throw it out there. Is it like in the whole romance, like the romance part of it of like, I thought that was her father for the beginning part of it.
Henry Zabrowski
Hey, you just. We've talked about. We just talked about this last episode. We talked about how Tom Atkins is. He's just used to people wanting to him.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah, yeah. It didn't matter.
Henry Zabrowski
He's just really used to it and he's really grown accustomed to it. And he's just. He just knows it happens. He knows women want to him and he supplies that dick. Every woman in that movie wants to. And it's definitely not the script. No, that's Tom Atkins.
Ed Larson
No one know what I got. I rented because I went back to my rental guy over at Bay Kind and I got. I've been sitting on Thanksgiving and I just, I can't watch it. I don't know why. Oh, I'm not scared of it as much as I just don't. I think it's going to be bad.
Jackie Zabrowski
It's fun.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
Honestly, go in thinking it's going to be really bad and you'll have a fun time with it. I, it is. I, I enjoyed because I remember going into Thanksgiving being like, I'm gonna hate this, but of course I'm gonna see it. But I actually, I liked it.
Ed Larson
I have to watch Breaking the Mold.
Jackie Zabrowski
It's not, it is not. It is like a holiday themed, you.
Ed Larson
Know, my fees are racking up. I gotta watch it.
Jackie Zabrowski
You gotta get it in there.
Henry Zabrowski
It's fine. I, I, the villain looks corny. Yes, of course.
Jackie Zabrowski
He's a very corny. It's definitely, like I said, it's not anything you've never seen before.
Ed Larson
I'm a Mr. Boog man. I love Mr. Boogity.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm just happy you do have some of the best movies left still. Because you have. I do believe that the best movies on the this list you, you haven't even talked about yet. We haven't talked about American Mary, which is an amazing movie you've never seen. You again. Event Horizon.
Ed Larson
I mean, I love Event Horizon.
Henry Zabrowski
That's coming up. We got, Horizon's big. I'm excited for Horror of Dracula cuz I've never seen any Christopher Lee Dracula.
Ed Larson
Okay.
Henry Zabrowski
I've never seen any Hammer films.
Ed Larson
Know what's interesting is a lot of times that's just called Dracula. Horror of Dracula?
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
Like sometimes it's just called Dracula. Sometimes called Horror of Dracula.
Henry Zabrowski
Horror of Dracula allows me to find it. You can find it easier.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
Oh, and Videodrome.
Ed Larson
Yes, Videodrome. I bought on ebay. I bought like a special edition because I'm like, I love that movie. I'm like, I need that in my collection.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh yeah.
Ed Larson
And I bought, I spent a real, a good amount of money on it and I, and I had it mailed to the house since I think someone stole my package. You believe that?
Jackie Zabrowski
Hunt them down.
Ed Larson
Yeah. Someone stole my package.
Henry Zabrowski
I'll find their DNA.
Ed Larson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been happening in my house lately. People have been stealing packages. It's happening. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta set up one of those, one of those traps.
Henry Zabrowski
Glitter boxes no, you need a trap. You need like, a. You don't need, like, a big. You need to dig a hole and put grass on top of the hole.
Jackie Zabrowski
Although that is illegal in California. I have wanted to my home. And you can't do that in California.
Henry Zabrowski
They get really. They get really upset.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
I do love Videodrome.
Ed Larson
I love video drum. It's been long enough. Where I'm super excited to see it again.
Henry Zabrowski
All right, so let's just say this week, what are we excited to see?
Jackie Zabrowski
I am going to see Black Phone 2 on Friday, and I am getting.
Ed Larson
You know, me, too. I still haven't seen it.
Jackie Zabrowski
I think I need to rewatch the first Black Phone because I. I'm not trying to give anything away. There's just something that happens in it that really took me out of it. Then I was like, oh, my. This Now. I was like, I guess the rest of the movie doesn't count because I was so annoyed by it.
Ed Larson
Yeah. And I just like that he turns into Freddy Krueger. Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
See, that's why. But Apparently, Black Phone 2 is going to be great.
Henry Zabrowski
It's awesome. We did a whole thing on it.
Jackie Zabrowski
But I think I need to rewatch the first Black Phone because I think it was just. It literally, it's like the ghost. Like, when.
Henry Zabrowski
Like the ghosts.
Jackie Zabrowski
And I'm like, okay, well, there's more.
Henry Zabrowski
Ghosts, but you got it. There's more ghosts in Black Phone, too.
Jackie Zabrowski
But it's good into, like, a Freddy Krueger type thing.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Jackie Zabrowski
Hell, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
I think it's really, really good.
Jackie Zabrowski
Great.
Ed Larson
I mean, the first Nightmare on Elm street, if I can go back and redo the whole thing, would be like Black Phone one and we would have Fred Krueger when he's alive.
Jackie Zabrowski
Well, also because the story of Freddy Krueger alive is terrifying. Very horrifying. It's why Freddy Krueger is. To me, I guess favor is a weird word, but he is my favorite of the big slashers because even though, like, his origin story is so horrible.
Henry Zabrowski
He'S a child murderer. He was in child molester.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah. But. But he. And.
Henry Zabrowski
And fathers, though.
Jackie Zabrowski
But I also do love that they all set him on fire. I love the story of all the parents getting together and be like, we're.
Henry Zabrowski
Going to kill them ourselves.
Jackie Zabrowski
And I shouldn't love that, but I do.
Ed Larson
It's great.
Henry Zabrowski
Stop feeling guilty for your likes.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
You know what I mean?
Jackie Zabrowski
You're just so.
Henry Zabrowski
All you do is apologize.
Ed Larson
You.
Henry Zabrowski
You have to just stop. You got to stop apologizing because you know why you like what you like? You love murderers.
Jackie Zabrowski
You're right. I love murderers.
Henry Zabrowski
Support murder. And you like it.
Jackie Zabrowski
I do. I like it.
Henry Zabrowski
And that's okay. It's okay for you to support murder. It's okay for you to support murderers.
Jackie Zabrowski
I'm pro murderer.
Ed Larson
Yes. He Night Breed. I haven't seen Night Breed ever.
Henry Zabrowski
It's great.
Ed Larson
It's gonna be my first time watching that.
Jackie Zabrowski
It's really good.
Henry Zabrowski
It is.
Ed Larson
It is.
Henry Zabrowski
Our Queer Coded film.
Ed Larson
Is it gay?
Henry Zabrowski
It's got you. You will see why it is queer. Clear coded.
Ed Larson
Okay.
Henry Zabrowski
And it's a Clive Barker movie, which means already.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
He's the gayest man to ever live. He's a big old gay, gay man.
Ed Larson
Stars in the movie.
Henry Zabrowski
What? Yeah, he's in the movie.
Ed Larson
I just coughed right in the mic. Sorry.
Henry Zabrowski
No, no. David Cronenberg's great in the movie. Great actor.
Ed Larson
Is he?
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
Awesome. Weird.
Henry Zabrowski
Weird actor in this movie.
Ed Larson
I would have never thought that he was in the movie.
Henry Zabrowski
He puts himself in some of his movies.
Jackie Zabrowski
I recently met the composer of all of music of all the Hellraiser movies.
Ed Larson
Oh, yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
And just.
Henry Zabrowski
And he'd go like.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah. You just kept doing that. Sounds like I'm trying to talk to you. Not want to talk anymore, I guess.
Ed Larson
Speak words.
Jackie Zabrowski
Surprisingly, back then, they didn't financially take care of the composers as well as one might expect back in the day.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Because they're cucks.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
The composer.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
I mean, aren't we all cucks if we go to the movies?
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. And that's why my. When I'm excited the most, it's like, that's how I watch a movie. I watch a movie through my wife's eyes. I sit to the side. I don't watch the movie. I watch my wife watch the movie, and I ask her what the movie was about. And it's called movie cooking, and you should check it out for yourself.
Jackie Zabrowski
That is great, man. I almost threw on Near Dark last night because I was trying to convince Jeff for us to go as Frailty. Like, I want him to be the God's hands killer from the movie Frailty as Bill Paxton. I want to play both of the children. And he wouldn't. And he's like, nobody's going to get a Frailty costume reference. And then I was like, but what about Near Dark? If we're going to go Bill, now I'm just living Paxton brain. You know, I got Paxton Brain over here. Near Dark is so good. Recently.
Ed Larson
No, it's incredible.
Jackie Zabrowski
And it is just I. Oh, I love I.
Henry Zabrowski
It's arguably the best vampire movie ever made.
Ed Larson
I would say it's one of the best Katherine Bigalow movies ever made. It's as good as the Hurt. Hurt Locker.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. Yeah, I like it way better than the Hurt Locker. Yeah, I've definitely seen it way more times.
Ed Larson
Amen to that, you know? Yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
I didn't realize she also did Point.
Ed Larson
Break 0 dark 30. She's got a great career break in Detroit. Detroit was great.
Henry Zabrowski
Technically. Point Breaks a perfect film.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah. I mean, yeah. I just didn't realize she did like Strange Days.
Ed Larson
I love Strange Days. Recently it held up pretty good.
Jackie Zabrowski
Does it?
Henry Zabrowski
Strange Days is a lot better than you'd even. I. Oh, she did Blue Steel. That's spicy.
Ed Larson
Yeah. Yeah. She's a great career. Oh, yeah. Phenomenal career.
Henry Zabrowski
Pretty lady. That's a pretty little lady.
Ed Larson
K19 wasn't good.
Henry Zabrowski
All right, time to end the episode.
Ed Larson
It's ended.
Henry Zabrowski
Welcome. Thank you guys so much for being here. Jackie, good work.
Jackie Zabrowski
Thank you for having me.
Henry Zabrowski
Plug your check out.
Jackie Zabrowski
Who's the go to? Who's the page seven?
Ed Larson
I'm gonna do page seven in a couple weeks.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yep, you're gonna be on page seven a couple weeks. We're gonna wrangle Henry in there and.
Henry Zabrowski
Some kind of fudgeing horseshit for your fudgeing ass.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yes, you are. And Definitely check out LPN Romantasy deep dives YouTube.com/at LPN Romantasy with me and the lovely Natalie Jean.
Ed Larson
How was the con?
Jackie Zabrowski
It was great. We went to the Enchanted Realms book festival. Now Natalie and I are trying to sell some monster fucker merch out there because you know what? There's not a lot of funny, horny monster fucker merch out there. And I feel like I got to fill that hole.
Ed Larson
Yeah. But I also feel like, you know, you are the merch. You know, you and Natalie like you. People want to see you more than they.
Jackie Zabrowski
If we have an opportunity to do a show, we do a show. But if there's none, then we've end.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Then they sell themselves.
Jackie Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ed Larson
Hell yeah.
Jackie Zabrowski
Got to get out there, baby.
Ed Larson
I love it. I think it's great.
Jackie Zabrowski
I love meeting everybody you all dressed up and oh yeah, I was sweating my ass off. And it was worth it because I mean, somebody's got to be Rowan from throwing of glass.
Ed Larson
Yes. I think think it's great.
Henry Zabrowski
I have no idea what the you're talking about. I don't care difference. I don't care.
Ed Larson
Even though I Don't understand.
Jackie Zabrowski
Thank you, Eddie.
Henry Zabrowski
I appreciate it.
Ed Larson
It means nothing to me. But I'm. But other than your happiness, which means.
Jackie Zabrowski
A lot, that's okay. I don't need you to read them.
Henry Zabrowski
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Ed Larson
I love that. So you could see us talk.
Henry Zabrowski
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Ed Larson
I got a bunch of stuff coming up. I got some solo shows. I got some Henry shows. I got last podcast shows. There's all kinds of going on. I put everything on my own website. So I'm going to redirect you from last podcast on the left.com to eddytunes.com.
Henry Zabrowski
Keep up both tabs on.
Jackie Zabrowski
You can also go to big Jackie.com if you want to go to big Jackie.com. yes. That has nothing to do with last podcast.
Ed Larson
If you're coming to see us on the cruise. I got. I'm doing a show in Miami the night before. I'm doing a standup show in Miami the night before. You come check that out. And then I'm going to be in Orlando doing Dead Men Tell Some Tales with Dan Becker. I'm going to do that in Orlando at a 4pm show. Oh, my God. They were like, is that okay? I was like, are you kidding me?
Henry Zabrowski
We have had. We've been talking.
Ed Larson
I want to start.
Henry Zabrowski
Eddie and I had this long waxing philosophical conversation the other day. I've been like, why can't shows start at six?
Jackie Zabrowski
That's literally what Jamie Lee Curtis has been saying. She's like, you want me to go to your shows? You want me to go to your concerts? Start them at 3pm I'll go to your concerts.
Henry Zabrowski
No, that's. People have to work jobs. But six o'. Clock. I think we can all agree that we. Especially on a Friday, we can.
Ed Larson
Saturday or Sunday. On a Sunday, definitely. All right, so. And then speaking of 6pm on a Sunday, on November 16, on 6, 6pm I'm gonna be at Mic Drop Comedy in San Diego. That's gonna be a lot of fun. I can't wait for that. I bring in. Julie's gonna host and I got Amber and Ashley Brooke Roberts coming. We're doing like a whole brighter side. And then of course. December 7th. Get your heiny to Vegas.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ed Larson
Playing wise guys.
Jackie Zabrowski
Okay, I'll come with you guys.
Henry Zabrowski
You know I always want to be in Vegas.
Ed Larson
It's awesome.
Jackie Zabrowski
Want to be in.
Ed Larson
We got to. Definitely got to invite Nap.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, George Nap. He's coming.
Ed Larson
We have to talk to him.
Henry Zabrowski
Yo, he's doing 10.
Ed Larson
Yeah, we got to. Yeah, if we can get nap to do 10.
Henry Zabrowski
If he could open.
Ed Larson
Open. Oh, my God. Do you think he would. George Knap. I know you don't listen.
Henry Zabrowski
Side stories. Lpmail.com. no, we. We're get to. We'll get to Napoleon's. Go.
Ed Larson
I would love to bring him on stage.
Henry Zabrowski
We can break them off a piece.
Ed Larson
Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, if there any. If there's any little nappers out there that are looking to get stuck, dude, let us know.
Henry Zabrowski
If we could pay him in pussy, it'd be so much easier for us. So if you're wanting it, if you want to slop some on a George Knapp's lap, email, side stories. Who cares? Be there, man it. Who cares? You know, what are you gonna do? Shoot your shot? If you could send me a good dating profile for George Knapp that I could set up and put in front of him on stage, and then we could see if he'll has the guts to reject you on stage.
Ed Larson
Yes. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, we'll. Yeah, we're gonna get him laid, and we're gonna switch laid, too.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, if I get some big. Too.
Ed Larson
Yeah, we got a big dick dude.
Henry Zabrowski
To come get a couple. I need some you guys, man.
Jackie Zabrowski
You guys.
Henry Zabrowski
And I need some May books and.
Ed Larson
M. Come on down. Come on down.
Henry Zabrowski
Come on down. All right, see you next week. Bye.
Ed Larson
Oh.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh.
Ed Larson
Shout out to oh, Hail Jenny Lewis and Rylo Kylie. She was so cool. I went and saw the show, and she hung out with us afterwards.
Jackie Zabrowski
That's awesome.
Henry Zabrowski
Big ups to smiling Himmler.
Ed Larson
Wow.
Jackie Zabrowski
Look at how happy he is.
Ed Larson
Oh, yes. I watched the decent one. It's just his love letters. It was awful. All right, guys, be good to yourselves.
Henry Zabrowski
Enjoy. Hail Satan.
Jackie Zabrowski
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Date: October 15, 2025
Hosts: Henry Zabrowski, Ed Larson
Guest: Jackie Zabrowski
In this special "Movie Stories V" edition of Side Stories, Henry and Ed are joined by Henry's sister, Jackie Zabrowski, for a rollicking, horror-movie-filled episode. Together, the trio dives into recent movie watches, horror recommendations, and explores infamous true crime news. From controversial topics like the death of disgraced Lostprophets singer Ian Watkins to in-depth film discussion (with their signature off-color, irreverent humor), the episode celebrates the intersection of horror, pop culture, and bizarre news. Several tangents include Halloween costumes, home invasion movie traumas, and what makes a truly great (or bad) horror film.
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On podcasting as a horror trope:
"The only movie that features podcasters that I… took vaguely offense to...was Tusk. That was the first one that said podcasters are obnoxious." – Henry [33:08]
On home invasion movies:
"I just get really upset." – Ed [44:33]
On classic horror's lasting legacy:
"Everything’s ripped off. Of course… But also, you… it shows me… what the education and music and film does, which is: fills the artist with reference points." – Henry [41:52]
On separating art from artist:
"When you’re so hungry, it’s like the choices you make separate the art from the artist. And so this guy, couldn’t happen to a nicer guy, Ian Watkins." – Henry [14:02]
On horror comedies:
"To me, a true fantastic horror comedy is 50/50." – Henry [53:44]
"Ghostbusters is the number one of all." – Henry [54:03]
On seeing Creep Show for the first time:
"I loved it. Loved it. It was so good... Do you recognize the little boy at the beginning? – It’s Joe Hill." – Ed & Henry [48:59]
On Tom Atkins' enduring allure:
"He just knows it happens. He knows women want to [sleep with] him, and he supplies that d---." – Henry [63:41]
On the craft of Hitchcock:
"He also changed pop culture and he changed the way. There’s a sequence in this movie that is the one of the most ornate, beautifully shot, like chase sequences..." – Henry, on "Frenzy" [41:31]
The episode closes with plugs for Jackie’s and Ed’s projects, reflections on horror fandom, and upcoming LPN live events. In true Last Podcast style, the episode is a blend of macabre humor, sincere movie fandom, and breezy banter, making it a must-listen (or read!) for horror buffs and fans of the show.
For listeners who want to vibe with the irreverent, the insightful, and the just plain weird side of the horror community, this episode delivers it all—plus a dozen horror movie recommendations to keep you up all October.