Side Stories: Pizza Party

Summary

Last Podcast On The Left: Side Stories – "Pizza Party"

Release Date: February 4, 2026
Hosts: Henry Zebrowski, Ed Larson
Podcast Network: Last Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Henry and Ed dig into the chaotic and disturbing recent dump of files connected to Jeffrey Epstein and his network, dissecting new revelations, the confusing state of the evidence, and the broader depravity of elite circles. With their trademark blend of dark humor and shock, they discuss the intersection of real-world horror, internet conspiracies, and media manipulation, as well as some wild listener stories and bizarre news updates.

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Main Themes & Purpose

• Explore the emerging details and vast trove of new files ("the dump") from the ongoing Epstein saga.
• Unpack the implications around famous figures, coded language (pizza euphemisms), and the role of internet subcultures like 4chan.
• Critique broader systems of power, complicity, and public confusion, using gallows humor as a shield from the horror.
• Skewer the failures of both media and justice to handle such sprawling criminality.
• Offer comic relief with true crime-adjacent oddities like the "Piggyback Bandit" and personal anecdotes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein Files Dump: A Flood of Data and Depravity

• [05:26]–[08:45]: Henry and Ed introduce the massive, nearly context-less drop of Epstein-related files.
  • The data dump is intentionally confusing; critical context is stripped, likely to muddy the waters and force a narrative of exoneration for key players.
  • The files, often barely redacted, contain shocking and sometimes illegal content, including images involving minors.
  • “They obviously did not [review all of this]. It is a massive flood...having stripped the context from [the files] in order to confuse you.” — Henry, [06:14]
  • They describe the difficulty and frustration of reviewing traumatic material: “It’s hurting my brain...I have been reading and watching nothing, mainlining Epstein financials.” — Henry, [12:29]

2. Elites, Obfuscation, and 'Flooding the Zone'

• [09:39]–[12:52]: The spectacle around celebrity involvement.
  • Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates—discussed as major figures whose true connections are often hidden by layered travel (e.g., visiting nearby islands, then shuttled secretly to Epstein’s).
  • “He’s a guy so lame. He kills the vibe of Rape Island.” — Henry, on Elon Musk, [09:45]
  • The hosts explain Ghislaine Maxwell’s role in personally piloting guests to avoid detection.
  • There’s acknowledgment that mentions in the files don’t 'exonerate' Trump or others: “Donald Trump is mentioned more than 38,000 times...They believe this exonerates him because he’s just so honest.” — Henry, [12:09]

3. Dark Webs: Internet Culture, 4chan, and Code Words

• [22:41]–[34:30]: Deep dive into Epstein’s connection to online subculture.
  • Epstein’s efforts to launder his image digitally, hiring people to alter Wikipedia and engaging with notorious internet spaces (4chan, World of Warcraft, cryptocurrency).
  • “He spent a significant amount of time hiring people to hack Wikipedia...One of the ways he found in was in the world of World of Warcraft.” — Henry, [23:54]
  • The “pizza” code: Once the stuff of derided conspiracy, but now shown as an actual internal euphemism among Epstein's circle, derived from Trump’s crude language about women.
    • "And it absolutely is code. He says many times, ‘Do you want pizzas?’... That’s how stupid it is.” — Henry, [34:30]

4. Epstein, Transhumanism, Eugenics, and Dystopian Fantasies

• [15:10]–[19:54]: Epstein’s philosophical obsessions.
  • Emails reveal deep enthusiasm for transhumanist, eugenic, and highly racist ideas among Epstein’s contacts, including conversations with tech philosophers (Nick Bostrom), Yosa Bach, and Noam Chomsky.
  • “Maybe uncontrolled climate change is a good way to deal with overpopulation.” — Henry, [16:20]
  • "Women...they don't understand emotion and art. They can't be pulled into science and economics." — Henry, paraphrasing Epstein, [18:52]

5. Celebrity & Comedian Entanglement

• [37:39]–[44:35]: Epstein’s obsession with comedians and attempts to use Woody Allen as bait.
  • He was fixated on older Jewish comics (e.g., Lewis Black, Bobby Slayton, Gilbert Gottfried).
  • The show sharply distinguishes being present at events from participating in criminal activity.
  • “Woody Allen was used as bait for many comedians... I think comedians may be the most corruptible. We're ugly...gross...and easily bought." — Henry, [41:27]

6. JonBenét Ramsey Rumors

• [52:03]–[54:20]: Debunking the JonBenét Ramsey–Epstein connections.
  • No credible evidence places Epstein at the scene or connects him to JonBenét.
  • Possession of a painting featuring a blonde girl likely to be a “dark joke” rather than a clue.

7. The Piggyback Bandit & Other Crimes

• [56:41]–[64:45]: Henry and Ed comically recap the antics of the "Piggyback Bandit"—a minor criminal notorious for sneaking into high school sporting events to jump on athletes' backs under the guise of helpfulness.
  • “He insinuates himself into high school sports games...Then he jumps on the backs of young boys and rubs his genitals all over their lower back.” — Henry, [57:26]
  • The humor serves as a counterweight to heavy subjects; mock speculation about his funding and origins.

8. Other Notable Stories

• [64:54]–[71:44] Updates on true crime and bizarre news:
  • Joe Biden's ex-husband suspected in a murder ([64:54]).
  • A failed jailbreak attempt using a pizza cutter ([68:02]).
  • Hostage situation involving Savannah Guthrie’s mother ([69:43]).
  • Listener letters and the "cursed painting" story ([75:38]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "The whole point was the pictures. They were so convinced they were entirely untouchable.” — Henry, on Epstein's circle documenting their crimes, [14:19]
• “Maybe uncontrolled climate change is a really good way to deal with overpopulation." — Epstein’s tech world discussions, [16:20]
• “If you made the lowest white man feel lower than any black man, you've got him in your pocket for life.” — Henry quoting LBJ; applies to Ghislaine’s role, [20:09]
• “Honestly, the idea of having to click 'Are you over 18?' on a government website...it’s wild to me.” — Henry, on viewing the Epstein files, [78:28]

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Topic | |---------------------------------|------------------------------------------------------------| | [05:26]–[08:45] | Introduction to Epstein Files Dump | | [09:39]–[12:52] | Big Names, 'Flooding the Zone' Strategy | | [15:10]–[19:54] | Eugenics, Dystopia, and Elite Philosophy | | [22:41]–[34:30] | Internet Culture Links: 4chan & ‘Pizza’ Code | | [37:39]–[44:35] | Comedians, Woody Allen & Epstein’s Social Life | | [52:03]–[54:20] | JonBenét Ramsey Rumors Dissected | | [56:41]–[64:45] | Piggyback Bandit: Comic Relief with a Side of Weird Crime | | [64:54]–[71:44] | Rapid-Fire True Crime News & Listener Letters | | [75:38] | Cursed Painting Listener Story |

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Takeaways & Original Tone

• Mordant, irreverent humor is wielded as a shield (“Woody Allen should be put on a raft and floated out to sea… someone do it already,” [41:01]), but the horror and genuine disgust at the subject matter is palpable.
• The vastness and confusion around the Epstein evidence is by design—a deliberate move by authorities and elites to make any attempt at connecting dots seem crazy.
• The podcast remains skeptical, critical, and unafraid to savage people on all points of the political spectrum: “They all deserve each other.” — Ed, [51:52]
• Henry’s advice: do the research yourself, don’t be cowed by the complexity, and understand the system is rigged to protect its worst actors.
• The hosts also remind listeners to enjoy what’s left to enjoy: “Never meet your heroes. Unless, of course, you're a 16-year-old girl.” — Henry, [78:58]

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For Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

If you missed it, this episode is a crash course on the latest twists in the Epstein saga—the connections, the hidden language, and the failures of both law enforcement and media. With laughter as catharsis, Side Stories: Pizza Party pulls back the curtain on just how bizarre, interconnected, and corrupt the world’s most powerful truly are.

“They are such morons. They are such losers....but it worked.” — Henry and Ed, [46:17]

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Hail yourself, and look twice at every slice of pizza from here on in.

Transcript

[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Ed Larson]

This is the last podcast on the left side stories.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's when the Cannibal started. Side stories. Yes. Because I was trying to work on my Robin Leech before this. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Can you give me a. Let me see what you got.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's like Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.

[Ed Larson]

It's almost like you got to be more of an. It's like Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He was a big part of my childhood.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. All of us, we love looking at big houses.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh my God. We were fascinated with it. And Robin Leach was the very first impersonation I ever did, really, as a little boy. And we actually have a home video of me going around the house, coming in like, opulence. Share opulence. And then going like. And then there's a photo of. Honestly, it was a funny bit.

[Ed Larson]

It's wonderful what your house looks like.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, of course. And then I on camera, camera took a thing of my mom's favorite perfume, her big fish, big fancy perfume. And it's been like, can you even imagine? It's stinky bleach. I kept calling it stinky bleach. And I dropped it, right? I dropped it. It exploded all over because Jackie was holding the camera the whole time. It went everywhere. And then like I was trying all mix it up, you know, trying to clean it up. And then obviously my mom comes home, right. I forgot what she was like, just reeks.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And she's like, what'd you do? And we're like, Nothing, nothing, nothing. I didn't do nothing. She's like, you were playing with the video camera. It's like, maybe, yeah, whatever.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, yeah. You know, we make videos for fun.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Puts the video. It was a wonderful. Like, it was this wonderful moment of them all watching me destroy the thing on camera and have all the evidence of it on camera.

[Ed Larson]

Were you just, like, waiting for a way to refute it? Like you just knew it was about to happen?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Do we not understand, Mother, how media can be manipulated?

[Ed Larson]

You immediately see you eating the vhs, say.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And that's how Robin Leech first taught me to cover up crimes.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Welcome to side Stories. My name is Henry Zabowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson.

[Ed Larson]

How you doing?

[Henry Zebrowski]

And honestly. And it's not code at all, kind of crazy. Our cheese pizzas just got here. My question is, is that. Is. Did the grape get here yet? Is my grape soda here yet?

[Ed Larson]

Oh, is the grape. You think it's the grape?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I do. I have. Oh, do we have glove, though? Oh. Oh, my pizza glove. Thank you so much.

[Ed Larson]

No fingerprints on the pizza?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, no, actually.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, it's a dildo hand.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Can you please give me a big look at this big fun pizza glove?

[Ed Larson]

What is this?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, God, what a great pizza.

[Ed Larson]

Is this really what we're spending the new budget on?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Can you please bring me some? A big, nice slice of pizza.

[Ed Larson]

Here we go.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, Champ wants some pizza. Oh, he's very young. But that's never stopped anybody from having pizza before, that's for certain. Oh, nothing I like better than a thin, wasted, prepubescent slice of pizza. Still hot like it's from the fires of hell.

[Ed Larson]

I'm eating mine without protection.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm going, Ron.

[Ed Larson]

Raw dog in mine.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't care what I get from this. No condoms. Must be Bill Gates, you dirty fucking nerd.

[Ed Larson]

I heard they're going to change his name to Bill Gapes. Hey, come on. All right, what are we doing here?

[Henry Zebrowski]

How many spots is he? Do you remember when, Gabe. When Bill Gates was really concerned about drinking poo poo water? Now I know why he loves it. Now I know why that fucking pervert was so excited to drink piss legally in front of everybody, he created a whole fucking charity around him.

[Ed Larson]

Honestly. They put the. They made the dockets on HBO and they put a bunch of shit into a machine, and then he drank the water with a big smile on his face.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Can you take.

[Ed Larson]

I don't care.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We take this pizza and can you actually bury it over in the back of the Ranch.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. If you don't mind. Yeah, if you don't mind. If you could dig a shallow grave and put some of those pizzas. I think it's over behind the. Behind where the ranch. Where the ranch ends in New Mexico.

[Ed Larson]

Or if. If it's too much. St. Lucia island will be fine.

[Henry Zebrowski]

If you could also. St. Bart's is a way to get there as well. If you could also maybe park that over on Elon's plane. Guys. Oh, my Lord.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, what a gift.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I just.

[Ed Larson]

You see, finally we got some shit we can use.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know what's hard is, is that we're obviously gonna be talking quite a bit about the new dump of Epstein files. Can we hit that stinger, please? It's an island adventure. It's an island adventure. See? Heck, yeah.

[Ed Larson]

It's Jeffre.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And we couldn't be happier because this is just. It's confusing. It's upsetting, I'll tell you that. The reading of the files over the weekend. Right.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, my God. It's crazy. It's just like. It's just like, here's like a fi. Just a bunch of. And then search randomly. It's quite. It's. It's insane.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, what they. What we're doing now here. So first, before we even get into it, I want to acknowledge, number one, the large. Like, one of the big smoking guns about this whole fucking thing is the fact that most context has been stripped from this entire dump. They have done. The only sort of work that our current administration has done to whittle any of this down is to sort of, like, I believe they just decide they have a certain chunk of it they've held on their own. We now have something like three and a half million files. There was another dump this morning that they say are. Oh, you know, we went through all of this, blah, blah, blah. They obviously did not. Yeah, it is a massive flood of stuff that they have released, having stripped the context from. In order to confuse you. They want you to believe, much like our wonderful president got on his plane, while he was in the middle shitting his pants and thinking about rape. He said, this exonerates me. That was his whole thing, right? Because. Because he thinks in his head that they've now flooded the Zone. And the problem is, is that when you flood the Zone, you should think sometimes what you're flooding the Zone with. Because I think these guys really think they're amazing villains. And it's just wonderful to see how bad they are at every single inch of it.

[Ed Larson]

It's really crazy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's barely redacted. It's using some AI programming, which is horrific. I will say if you're skimming through these files, one of the worst things in it is the random teenage nudity.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because there's quite a bit of it. Because they are catching it as they go.

[Ed Larson]

Have you seen it?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, thankfully. I've just been kind of very pointedly going into very specific pockets.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because I'm trying to. There was like one line of thought that I'm going to talk about today that I wanted to kind of put together, but it's. That whole place is a spider web of horrible, horrible.

[Ed Larson]

And so what are they doing to redact all that stuff?

[Henry Zebrowski]

They are just slowly but surely catching it as they can. So they didn't vet it in the first place.

[Ed Larson]

They really didn't.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No. So we are, we're now in the moment of. They've. If they think that they have to.

[Ed Larson]

See the kids, are we able to. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I'm just, I got a million questions. If they see the kids, can they tell who they are?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. I mean, especially if you're a fan, you know, I mean it really depends on how big you are into the scene, you know, but these guys. Yeah. Because you're like. Because what we know about CSAM unfortunately is that it's sort of like Pokemon. You got to go and get the cards. Right. And sort of a. Got him, got him, need them, got him. Sort of scenario where guys are collectors of various pieces of csam. Yeah. Right. And also if you. Another really good way to get through all of this material is go to JMAIL Word.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

JMail World, dot World, JMail World. That is another place that you could go and search all of the Jeffrey Epstein emails in a Gmail style format. Someone, some genius has put this together and it is absolutely fascinating because you can really very easily read it.

[Ed Larson]

You kind of like pretend like it's your own inbox.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. And then you're jam. You're now your.

[Ed Larson]

That's the worst video game ever.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, it's really bad.

[Ed Larson]

You're Jeffrey Epstein's accountant.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, let's just say all these guys have some of the worst OPSEC abilities I've ever seen across the board. These guys are just emailing each other openly about rape. Yeah. Buying prostitutes, doing all. They're just, they're just asking for it. Right. We now know one of the big things is the Elon Musk is a loser.

[Ed Larson]

Oh my God.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Beg to be on the Island.

[Ed Larson]

He's so annoying. He can't even be a pedophile.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He could, they wouldn't. He think about this. He's a guy so lame. He kills the vibe of the rape island. You know, like everybody's there to sexually assault someone and they're like, God, he just really takes me out of the mood. There's somebody, I think it's his, it's his haircut. It's like, it's something about his bird shaped body going like, hi, yes, hello. Have you, do you, do you like to. I, I, I most certainly like to. As you can see, it was so funny on.

[Ed Larson]

I was watching the Daily show and they caught that the email was sent on Christmas.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh my God. Which I get. It's a boring day, especially when you're stupid kids. And then also his water straight up ratted him out and said, yeah, we were on St. Bart that day. Because now one. So one thing we've learned from these emails is the fact that the reason why Elon Musk was not seen on private plane logs going directly to the island, the reason why President Trump probably was not seen going directly to the island. Bill Clinton, all these guys that were definitely on the island. Bill Gates.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Is because what they would do is that they would fly to neighboring islands.

[Ed Larson]

And then take a boat over.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, they fly in boats can be tracked even more easily than planes. So the problem is, is that you go up this Ghislaine Maxwell was so, got so into this method of, of like hiding all the traveling. She got a pilot's license so that she herself could pick people up from St. Barts and transport them to the island so that nobody would know who was coming in and out.

[Ed Larson]

Can't find good help these days.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's so hard because everybody just breaks the NDA. And aren't CEOs vulnerable? Aren't they? So that's one big thing. We know. We know that Trump definitely, God knows what he did. I think that they were now also starting seeing that Trump was one massive predator that got into the circle of, of Epstein's predator world and actually disrupted the flow of his predator world.

[Ed Larson]

Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't he in the files more than anyone else?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Who Trump? Yeah, well, also because Epstein was personally obsessed with, with Trump because one big lesson that seems also seems to come out is everybody was super worried about Trump winning.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Which seems like kind of the opposite for a bunch of people that love the idea of Griffs and child molesters being in charge of things. Right. They're all child molesters.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And the fact that they were all super not into Donald Trump becoming president should really show you he's not a good guy.

[Ed Larson]

But what, bandits playing both sides then?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah, very much so. Donald Trump has mentioned more than 38,000 times. And this is just in this dump. And again, remember, they believe this exonerates him because he's just so honest. So one of the big trains of thought that came out of this was a. It's stuff that is. It's hurting my brain.

[Ed Larson]

Okay. It is hard to process all this. It's fascinating and boring all at the same time.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Natalie and I had a conversation yesterday where I was like, why am I pissed? I'm, like, walking around pissed and angry. Just like, what would your therapist ask you? I said, probably, like, what are you reading and watching? This is like. I have been reading and watching. Nothing mainlining Epstein financial and all of his back and forth. All the video watching videos of him. Check his face for herpes sores. You see those videos? It's just videos of his face. And he's obviously checking this for a. He has a cold. Sword his lip, right? Yes, Checking it. All those photos of Prince Andrew over all fours, over a blank face. Girl who had her face all X'd out. Meanwhile, dude, you should see this. Dude. There's Prince Andrew on all fours over a girl. He's covered in sweat. You look at the.

[Ed Larson]

Well, he's covered in sweat when he eats a crumpet.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But you remember he says, legally he can't sweat. So he is glistening with sweat. He looks like a rabid pig.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, well, this is an old picture.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, you're right.

[Ed Larson]

This is old. This is old news.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He should have worked hard.

[Ed Larson]

We know this one.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, this one. But then they cuts to the other. Look in the background. In the background of this picture, is.

[Ed Larson]

That a flag casket?

[Henry Zebrowski]

It is an American flag tablecloth in which people are putting their feet on the tablecloth while they all rape children together. It's a Guns N' Roses album cover. Like, literally, you're looking at a. That's like. That's like. What's the one with the guy with the big cigar made out of money? What was the name of that album? The Motley Crue.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, dude, why? See, the thing is, like, all right, my. Like, I used to be a criminal and my brain always goes back. Why are you taking pictures?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because they were so convinced they were entirely untouchable. And the whole point was the pictures. Well, apparently they are Jeffrey Epstein almost Because it took one of them to die, that's all. And huh. God, why did you choose your most special angel to go? Oh, because he just fell on that rope.

[Ed Larson]

Rope, yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That was one of the craziest falling on a rope scenarios I've ever seen. You ever see the. Did you see the recently released pictures of his neck?

[Ed Larson]

No.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Looks like he was garotted.

[Ed Larson]

Really?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, it's very interesting. So this is a. This is a tidbit. I got this from garbage day. This is a really great sub stack that I follow. And it's a really fun. Talks about like kind of information into like technology information. One of the things that they caught in this is. So we talk about stripping of context.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

One of the big ultimate themes of Jeffrey Epstein, his communication with various connection people all over the world is this idea of buying into world collapse. There's a quote from Peter Thiel.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Brexit, just the beginning. He then laid out this plan that directly what. Literally what they're doing. Remember Peter Thiel, Joe Rogan's best friend? Yeah. Return. Yeah. His pay. All these guys, right. He said return to tribalism, counter to globalization. Amazing new alliances. You and I both agreed zero interest rates were too high. And as I said in your office, finding things on their way to collapse was much easier than finding the next bargain. So what they're learning is, is that you're going to. They now sort of realize, like, instead of waiting for all of these, like various hostile takeovers and all these kind of businesses selling businesses to each other and all this type of shit, they just realize like, oh, if we just destroy the world itself and then buy the dip, we'll make a lot of money.

[Ed Larson]

But what, what's the point of having money if the world sucks?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because then you're the only ones have money. And then when you're the only ones who have money and you have all the technology and you have all the power and you have all the armies and you have all the health care, you can then just tell everybody whatever it is you want about the money. And then you also can eventually choose to make sure some people have no money at all. And you can whole swaths. Swaths of human beings. Because guess what? They were all really interested in eugenics. One of the big long conversations that Jeffrey Epstein was with a scientist by the name of Yosa Bach, who was a tech researcher and influencer, is the guy that they were talking back and forth about highly racist ideas about black people's IQs. Also Noam Chomsky. Yes. Love that. Love those theories. Talking about black people IQs, talking about how like they were made to be dumber, that white people were naturally ascendant, that women don't choose to do math because quote, they are. They what's it, they does not yield social attention. Right. And that maybe uncontrolled climate change is a really good way to deal with overpopulation. Yes. So these guys are already the plans in. Right? This is one of the big. We're now seeing these guys talk about this out loud. Now normally they're like Thanos, if he kids and, and think about how cool Thanos was in the fact that he didn't any kids. That's the bar now, right? Thanos, was he a pedophile? No, no. Thanos, was he steal a child. But yes, he adopted her. Oh, that's kind of nice. Yeah. No, Also revealed in the files, revealed in the files. Howard Stern, Woody Allen's mortal enemy.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Suit, yeah. Jeffrey Epstein. Because I was just out.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Howard Stern.

[Ed Larson]

I was just searching random names. I was like, all right, Howard Stern. Like just immediately just searching all my idols, you know, so I'm like, Howard Stern, please don't show up. And then it was Jeffrey Epstein emailing Soon Yi asking if he should invite Howard over to see them. And she said, Howard is a mortal enemy. Yeah, I love that because he's on Mia's side.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Epstein also.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Through these scientists, Epstein also helped fund an organization known as, formerly known as the World Transhumanist association by this with this guy named Nick Bostrom who's an AI obsessed philosopher. These guys, and they want to create a post human world and the goal was great. And also if you watched any of the. And I, I, I beg you, try. I watched the Epstein interview with Steve Bannon, the two hour chunk that was.

[Ed Larson]

Out and with just the two of them talking.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. Another like leit motif of this whole thing is what you think, what we all think of as the most powerful, smartest, strongest people in the world. Talking like high juniors in high school. It's just shithead Epstein waxing philosophic about how, you know, about how. Where does energy go when you die? It can't. There's no energy. Where does the energy transfer go? And they're talking about it in these high minded terms like it's the first time they're ever hearing these dumb concepts. And then stuff like he says, I thought really interesting is that, you know, see women have a romantic view of the world and they don't understand Understand emotion and. And art and design. They can't be pulled into all of this. This, this. This science and econ economics and stuff. Women can't handle it. Which is another example of Jeffrey Epstein viewed women. And all of these guys viewed women as vessels for their come.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And.

[Ed Larson]

Except for just Lane.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, Ghislaine would. No, no. Just Lane was only. You got to remember Ghislaine. Did they just la. LBJ said the idea that if you made the lowest white man feel lower than any black man, then you got him in your pocket for the rest of your life.

[Ed Larson]

Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Just Lane. It's like the bot. Any bottom. Right. If you listen to any. If you live in that la. The last good Dave Chappelle special. When like, the idea is that your bottom needs to know. She feels like she's super important, that she's outside of your judgment sphere. But actually she's at the very top of it. Because she has to be. Because if not, not just like Maxwell gets shot in the back of the head and guess what? She gets immediately replaced with somebody else.

[Ed Larson]

I'm surprised she's still alive.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I mean, because she's just. Because she's in jail. And I largely think it's reverse jail.

[Ed Larson]

They killed his ass.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think it's reverse misogyny. I think you're literally watching misogynist decide that the female. Sexual. Female sex trafficker is not worth the bullet. Yeah, they are.

[Ed Larson]

And she's gonna get out at some point.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh yeah. Who knows? Who knows?

[Ed Larson]

Because she's only got like. Like 15 years left. 17 years left. Something like that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She'll run to Israel. Going to go to one of those places now we actually wonder. Another big thing that came out is that Epstein basically said that Robert Maxwell was whacked by the Mossad. We should know because he probably is.

[Ed Larson]

Mossad from your grave.

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[Ed Larson]

There's lots of big stories.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Lots of big stories.

[Ed Larson]

There's lots of big stories.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So there's a lot of smoke about Epstein's connection to 4chan.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. And poll.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Now this is. It is interesting. He was first, I guess after he got arrested, arrested, Jeffrey Epstein was super butt hurt about the way people were like talking about him.

[Ed Larson]

The first arrest.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, in 2008. In 2008 he was super butt hurt because he was just like these people don't understand. They don't know what I'm like, they don't know what I do. You know, if you ever listen Epstein talk, I love honestly, in a way when you listen to Epstein talk, it's pretty crazy.

[Ed Larson]

I got it sees a little bit.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's like a little bit because you're better Queens guy look like this and you're not gonna do the thing and it's. He keeps it. He sounds like a mobster and he hearing him talk about it is. Is fascinating. But he got sick of the way people were talking about him because he's like, yeah, I'm a sex offender, but I'm a sex offender with a goal. And why can't people see that?

[Ed Larson]

And he tried to get off the sex offender registry. I know that much.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, we know that he spent a significant amount of time hiring people to hack Wikipedia.

[Ed Larson]

Thousand dollars a day or something.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. In order to change to get him off the sex offenders part of Wikipedia. We know that he did that. And a part of this is really getting into the Internet. Up until this time he was kind of on the outskirts. He was really sort of getting interested of whitewashing his. His entire operation through the sciences. And so he was like trying to kind of stick his way through. And one way he found in was in the world of World of Warcraft. So he spoke with a guy.

[Ed Larson]

I hated that game.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Absolutely. It's very, very fascinating. He wrote. He was super close with a guy named Brad Brock Pierce, who's a cryptocurrency entrepreneur. They did this thing with some stablecoin. It's all these like bitcoin bullshit things. This is when he really started getting all the bitcoin, all this kind. All of this shit, cyber, cyber money.

[Ed Larson]

Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He basically pitched this idea to Activision CEO Bobby Kotick about in game currency. And he had this idea of first of all, like, oh, you can create these sort of trade markets within games. He's the reason why your games fucking suck. Yes.

[Ed Larson]

Like literally, he's the reason you got to buy skins and shit like that.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Because a part of it was, I guess, this overarching idea that he had, again, big goals that he thought that he would change the educational programs of our country by turning the whole thing into a giant video game that legitimately they believe that would. That eventually where Epstein wanted to take all education from. He was a high school teacher. So he knows he wanted to put kids in VR helmets where they're playing video games for money to get academic success.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, sounds like a good plan.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's actually not a bad idea. But it's like that was one thing, right? So that's where he used to play.

[Ed Larson]

Math Blaster, golf course Goose.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So that's where he started to get into it. But that was when he was talking to journalist Michael Wolf. You know, that brave journalist.

[Ed Larson]

God damn, man. Talk about someone he should be first locked up sitting on all this for all these years.

[Henry Zebrowski]

All these years, sitting there making your.

[Ed Larson]

Instagram videos and your turtlenecks sipping tea like a piece of. Oh my God, I hate that Michael Wolf.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I hate him so much. He needs a deck.

[Ed Larson]

I want to pull his pants down and slap him in the high knees he has. That's what he deserves. He does take a public spanking his.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Old lady art director glasses. I want to punch those glasses through your face.

[Ed Larson]

I'm gonna grab your lips and pull them off your face like I'm a chimpanzee.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You wish you could suck dick. So Michael Wolf, he helped Epstein on media strategy. So one of the things they realized was that in the advent of 2017, right after the New York Times published the article about Harvey Weinstein all over the files, right. Good friend, which jump started the MeToo movement, which they all referred to as the old kind of boomer version. Time's up.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And they had this idea of being birthed from within them, within these emails is oh, I bet you we can push this MeToo movie movement 10 years away.

[Ed Larson]

That was the plan.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's the idea. And when the only way and that's where it started is on the way, we're going to do that. We're going to take over the Internet. So they had a lot of lofty ideas and we. Who knows exactly how it played out.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, what are you talking about? The world's a mess. 4chan exists. The President got elected twice.

[Henry Zebrowski]

All we know is is that. So now we'll tell a little bit of this story. So there's a guy named Christopher pool who created 4chan, who's also known as Moot. For those of you we all know we're not going to get into all the thing about 4chan we that when in 2011.

[Ed Larson]

Treat me like I don't know because I'm just learning a lot of this now.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Great. So for. It's a image board. A lot of horrible slash neutral old school Internet backbone to the old school Internet pred. It pred.

[Ed Larson]

I know it's evil. And I stayed off it because I knew it was evil. Then 4chan became 8chan.

[Henry Zebrowski]

8Chan, 8coon. All these different things. It changes into a bunch of things. It's just an image board that really started as sort of an anonymous and independent way to speak amongst ourselves on the Internet. And I still believe, believe that there is. There is. That is good. We do need that right there. It needs full free speech, needs to be available. That's how we're even be able to talk about this shit soon. If they put us in a fucking martial law or whatever. Right. So I understand that. But it's inherently corruptible. And now we see why. Because these guys eventually want to do it to make some money.

[Ed Larson]

Well, and 4chan was just filled with images of naked children and murder, right?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, it was honestly, it was a real mixture of honest like there was a. There was both. There's.

[Ed Larson]

Because that's where you got a lot of your alien stuff too. Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's all. It was the Internet itself. It was the, the. The entirely neutral face of the Internet which is neither good nor bad.

[Ed Larson]

Well, I think when you're entirely neutral, you're bad.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, the ideas is that I agree. The problem is that you're corruptible. That is really the issue is that you're corruptible. So when he was in 2011, we know that for a while. Christopher Poole did not want 4chan to become full on political for a while. There was a thing called New and they had a bunch of things on there. And he was kind of going back and forth about doing it because then eventually poll was created, which stood for Politically Incorrect, which we now know is the staging game, staging ground for Gamergate 2016. Trump's entire like grassroots campaign. Yeah. And all of the far right populism that we're still seeing. Pizza Gate, Peppy the Frog, all that kind of shit. Right. Which is sad. Still feel bad for Pepe the Frog. He was taken from us right now.

[Ed Larson]

A great drawing. If we can give up something, it's Pepe.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's fine. He's already gone.

[Ed Larson]

He's gone.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's already gone. So eventually he says poll shut down new in January 2011, telling users at the time, as for new. Anybody who used it knows exactly why it was removed. When I re edited the board last year, I made a note that it devolved into Stormfront. I'd remove it. Stormfront was one of the oldest neo Nazi communities on the web. And so for a while he was trying to say, I don't want to deal with this.

[Ed Larson]

Right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So all of a sudden he turns poll back on. Why? October 20, 2011, a guy named Boris Nikolaik, who's a venture capitalist, I guess he was also an advisor to Bill Gates. Nasty guy, man. Bill Gates couldn't fucking woo. What a liquor. Who knew he was so freaky, man.

[Ed Larson]

Microsoft also describes his penis.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Actually, I would consider it to be micro hard. So this came out. So we don't really know. So now we're kind of stupid. See, there's, there's this weird thing. So Boris Nicolic, he sent Epstein the Wikipedia page for Christopher Poole, writing, there was a cool guy kid that you should meet. Nicolic then followed up saying, how did you like Moot? He's very sensitive, so be gentle. So Epstein got back to him. I like them. I like them a lot. I drove him home. He is very bright. Epstein replied. Nikolaik went on to write that, oh, he will be a friend end and that he is, quote, one of the greatest hackers. He's simply one of the greatest hackers in the whole world. And you can't be surprised what he would hack into. It would seriously blow your mind. So according to Epstein's emails, it's like he said that seemed to be the only time they got together. They actually were having a hard time getting together because Christopher Poole, just like Epstein, was super, super secretive and did not like Meeting. And so it was like they were going back and forth. There seemed to be quite a bit of email exchanges between their various, various teams. We know in 2017 he was on 4chan. Epstein loved 4chan because he loved.

[Ed Larson]

No way.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He loved Five Nights at Freddy Porn.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, interesting.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

So he was, he was in the games.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't. He was in a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did a lot of stuff.

[Ed Larson]

So where is, you know, we're talking about all this. Where's Julian Assange? Where's Snowden? Where's Anonymous? Where are they helping us out on this?

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, nothing, dude, nothing. They're just sitting there. They're just sitting. They're just sitting there talking about. Because they were on the guys that took this up. So we know that Steve Bannon was involved. So they're saying here, essentially these are very coincidental dates. Very, very coincidental dates. They meet on October. Between October 20th and 24th. On October 23rd, 2011 poll is re opened.

[Ed Larson]

Okay, so.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So there was some discussion. It seems that they now realize that they were buying into the. They want to start creating havoc. They. And they are going to use it to create havoc. And that's, that's kind of this idea. So. But now we're really wondering like are they fully connected or not?

[Ed Larson]

I mean, of course they are.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It does seem like it, Eddie.

[Ed Larson]

Yes, of course. Helps them. And you said that they were constantly using pizza as a euphemism.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, this is. So now it seems to be this is the next wrinkle. So there's a lot of pizza euphemisms. So this is why now everybody's going nuts and why all of us who spent years trying to walk back pizza gate are like sitting here wanting to fucking pluck our eyeballs out. Because it is very confusing.

[Ed Larson]

We were just pointing our face at the wrong people.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So the people who said, oh, the idea that there was a secret code system amongst Democrats to go go a bunch of kids in the basement of Comet Pizza and that they use all these pizza things amongst each other. And that was like kind of this propped up part of the QAnon like conspiracy world.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then we also. Now that went on when that little. Was a little potato guy. Who's the guy, the shape of a potato who created QAnon. Who's a little guy. Who's a little guy. Who's that little Alex Jones, is it?

[Ed Larson]

I'm gonna have a little, little person.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Ron Watkins. Yeah, Ron Watkins. Right. That little, that little. He, he, I think began Ron Watkins was the full size guy. Oh, Ron Walker's a full size guy that worked with him. Okay. There's the. Who's a little guy? There's a little more. A little munchkin guy. Small.

[Ed Larson]

Little tiny creator. Small man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Little tiny guy. What's his name? Keep going, I'll find out. He's like a baked potato. He's like a baked potato with. Filled with rage. He's a little face.

[Ed Larson]

Jeff Zucker.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. So he. We know that those guys larped as QAnon and then it went past itself. What I think is that it started from up top. They. They seeded these things from up top. And then Epstein, in the emails with all these people start, quote, unquote, ironically using pizza. Like talking about. And it absolutely is code. Yes, it is absolutely code. He says many times, do you want pizzas? There's there. How do you. And guess where it all comes from.

[Ed Larson]

Where?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Think about how stupid this is. So apparently the night this is. This is partially conjecture. Partially a thing I've been put together from reading.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, well, it's all conjecture at this point. We're still figuring everything out.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Where the pizza thing came from is an inside joke amongst Epstein and his compatriots. Based upon the night, night that Donald J. Trump met Melania, they were at some function. And in the middle of this function, Donald Day Trump is fucking his sex worker, soon to be wife.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

In another room.

[Ed Larson]

I thought it was on the plane.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It was. Yes. And he keeps coming in and out of the room saying, my God, what a piece of ass. And he says it over and over again to the point where they use it as short term for every single time they were going to talk about women. And it's short term, important to pizza.

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[Ed Larson]

My God.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's how stupid it is. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Because isn't it? Epstein introduced Trump to Melania.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yep.

[Ed Larson]

Wow.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They weren't friends, though. Anybody introduces their wives to each other differently. Friends. Yeah. Frederick Brennan. Yeah. That's the little piece of.

[Ed Larson]

He is. Against all odds, I'd say yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Someone needs to throw him in a wood chipper or something.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, I feel like this guy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Is just gonna implode to begin another one. Oh, did you see the pictures of Stephen Hawking on the island? No. Look up. Look up Stephen H. Look up Stephen Hawking with teenagers. Look at the pictures. Dude. They. Dude, you got to see some of these pictures of him on this island, man. They fop him out of the chair, dude. He looks like they're on it. Looks like they are. On vacation with ugly spaghetti. That guy is such a pervert. That is so perverted, man. Stephen Hawking was such a pervert. He could you from his. Was he with his knees.

[Ed Larson]

Well, that's. Well, that's why he had the joystick extender on his.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bring your call server than me. Bring your call server. Bring your. Wow, what a sack of. They should have let him spin in. That should have threw him out of the airlock of that space shuttle he was in. See if he bounces off the moon.

[Ed Larson]

I think Eddie Redman needs to make a sequel where he just bangs a bunch of kids.

[Henry Zebrowski]

If you. Eddie Red Main if you want to redeem yourself. In my eyes, Stephen Hawking on the island weakened at bernie. Having to convince people he can still. That is. Oh, my God, buddy. Eddie Redmayne, you have the best.

[Ed Larson]

You could save your whole career even though it's doing great.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I will literally give to any charity of your name. I'll give it to any charity you ask. Eddie Redmayne, if you do this, I need you to def. Can we at least.

[Ed Larson]

I think you got. I. I could say you. You got money on making this movie.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Can someone photoshop him into the pictures? Can we at least do that? Can someone at least photoshop them into the actual pictures of Stephen Hawking shoulders. Can we please just take him out of that and put him in there? Oh, my God, yes. Oh, that would be the most popular red. Mean Eddie Redmayne would ever be. So that is the.

[Ed Larson]

There's lots of other stuff though. There's. He's. He's obsessed with comedians. I feel like we have to bring this us up. Yes, we do.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So we now know that Jeffrey Epstein's favorite comedian was Lewis Black.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And he spent a lot of time trying to court Lewis Black. Lewis Black. Too strong. Yes. He went to dinner there with. If anybody spent a lot of time watching Stand up in the 90s, you probably know Bobby Slayton. Bobby Slayton. He was really into it. Right.

[Ed Larson]

Robbie Slayton was like their guy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So Bobby seems like he's a great. He's an old school stand up comedian that did the nasty show at Montreal.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And he was fired and he said.

[Ed Larson]

For being too nast.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It. I guess. Or whatever. For Just for Laughs, which I also find hilarious. My fellow comedians, just so you know, guess who went to Just for Laughs several times. Jeffrey Epstein. And guess who loved you probably hung out with him. Dude, you have no idea. He saw his. He loved Gilbert Gottfried. He saw Gilbert Godfrey a lot. He saw. Who is it and like again, just because they're there doesn't mean that there's anything untoward happening necessarily.

[Ed Larson]

It's like the Diddy parties. People show up to a party.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Ed Larson]

I've been invited places and be like, hey, this is weird, I should leave.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It Interesting that you know, Lewis Black did happen to mention that Prince Andrew was there having a great time. Right. That corroborates a bunch of stuff that he says that he was different, although never that close. Meanwhile. And then Lewis Black is also talking about like because in his mind he's certain that they have to be of age. Yeah. But he kept saying there were these extremely young looking would seem to be European models just everywhere. And it's all because Jeffrey Epstein's a fucking loser. They had to commit convince all these other losers that he was a ladies man by paying for it. And all of these guys had to pay for it. They all were such tremendous losers.

[Ed Larson]

All right, so here's something that I can't stop thinking about and this is obviously me just hypothesizing, you know, out into the world when are they going to start digging up the island? When they gonna start digging up the ranch and looking for bodies?

[Henry Zebrowski]

They don't want to.

[Ed Larson]

That's what's got to happen.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's owned by new people now.

[Ed Larson]

Who owns it?

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's my guy.

[Ed Larson]

But seriously. Yeah, I know, you know, because I know we know some victims but they had to have killed some of them.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes. Oh yeah. I think Epstein there are several things he alludes to in all of the emails about murdering people, torturing people. I think a lot of it's euphemistic but legitimately he talks about it quite often. They talk about burying people, they talk about all these sorts of stuff and I would not put it past them and it just seems like it happened. Also Robin leeches was to apparently stabbed strangled a couple girl which I don't think is true. I have no idea anything in that spreadsheet document. I just want to say it was like a silk scarf, unfortunately only with Cartier I so what do we know about Ste.

[Ed Larson]

Stephen Deoff? He's the guy who bought the island.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We don't. I don't know a heck of a lot about him. I really don't.

[Ed Larson]

Is he in there? Let's look for him. Rob, can you do that? Just find the proper Stephan S T.

[Henry Zebrowski]

H E N deck off but let's go back to the comedians. I do want to talk a little bit more just because I find it real interesting he was Obsessed with older Jewish comedians, as you can imagine. He loved. You know, we said name them.

[Ed Larson]

Woody was this guy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So Woody Allen was. They were very, very, very close. And Woody Allen was sort of the.

[Ed Larson]

Any kind of little bit of doubt anyone had is so far out the.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Window he can fucking. I want him floated out on a raft into the middle of the.

[Ed Larson]

I just hate the years I spent defending this man because I thought he was funn. Just makes me insane.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He needs to be put into a raft and he be like, oh, God, I can't even. Oh, what is even this even happen?

[Ed Larson]

He is like the most fun man to torture probably.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, somebody do it already. These guys.

[Ed Larson]

This is like going to find Nazis when they're 99. Who gives a. Lock them up.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Lock them up. And so Woody Allen was used as bait for many comedians. So he would use Woody Allen as a way to get comedians to come over because people were interested. Obviously they want to meet Woody. Yes. Because unfortunately. Guys, guys, I'm going to let this, like, don't. Don't project this onto me. Obviously, comedians, I think of all of the artists might be the most corruptible because we start so innocent. We're just little.

[Ed Larson]

Because we're ugly.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, ugly. We're ugly. We're gross. We're socially awkward. And then one day you figure out how to weaponize your. Your own personal. Like your. Your security blanket. You learn to weaponize it. And I. Guys, they, you. They. They stay that bitter little nerd their whole life, and then they just want to, like, hurt people and then can't wait to tell the whole world to go themselves as soon as they can get enough money to do it. And that they're very easily bought. And.

[Ed Larson]

Well, not just that. As a comedian, I've noticed over the years people will come up to you and just say the worst thing possible because they think you'll think it's funny.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, how many times you. How many times as soon as you say you're a comedian, they hit you with the F words and all the.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And it just gets to a point where like, listen, bro, you don't know me. You have no idea who I am. And it doesn't. Comedian doesn't just mean code for horrible predator. Yeah, not anymore guy. We're trying to turn it back, guys. We're trying to turn it back.

[Ed Larson]

It's a new day.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's a new day. But how did he get left out of the death pool? Woody Allen? Because he doesn't deserve the. He doesn't deserve it.

[Ed Larson]

He ain't going to die. He's too much of a hypochondriac. He takes care of himself.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Look at the old whispering Jewish man as he sits in his natural habitat. God, I was investigating.

[Ed Larson]

Anyone over 90. I feel like awful people live forever.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah, dude. Of course. Look at Chris.

[Ed Larson]

Catherine o' Hara is an exact example.

[Henry Zebrowski]

She should. She got sick and died immediately because she worked too hard, because she cared too much, because she had a soul. So that's the problem as soon as soul's a liability in this industry. So we are also in.

[Ed Larson]

It's.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think a lot of it is he was fan. So you listen to these guys talk about stuff. It's just funny because they're all over it. Marc Maron said no. First time I've ever liked him.

[Ed Larson]

What do you mean? He says no all the time.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, I go to the island.

[Ed Larson]

They invited him to the island.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They invited him just to dinner and he said no. Honestly, I think you're right. He's just anti social. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

He just doesn't like hanging out with people. He always says no. I've tried to get him on a podcast. I try to book him on a show. He said no to me. Actually didn't answer no.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Exactly. At least he said no to Jeffrey Epstein, you know, and so he got out there. That was like one of the only times I've liked him. But, you know, I'll say he said no to Saudi. He did say no to Saudi.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. No, he's got it. He's got a moral compass, man.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But also, what is he gonna do? What is this material? Material gonna go well in Saudi? Is anything. Is this anything? Is he gonna do that? Is he gonna bring his notebook out and Riyadh. Yeah, I don't think it works like that.

[Ed Larson]

You know, he's the only one in the chair.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, yeah. Like it's not how. That's not the vibe of the entire night. So I don't think so. I. All of this to say is that they're going to now try to say about the files that they are too complicated. They're going to say that all of it is disproven. They're going to say a lot of stuff in the next couple of weeks and I would like for you to use your own. Like this is the only really time I will say this. Use your own brain and try to see where things might matchup.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Just try to look at it and understand what they've done here is that they removed. They've stripped the context away from all things so that you will look stupid or crazy talking about it. And I know because no one wants to fucking talk to me anymore.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Just because it's the only fucking thing I talk about anymore. I've been talking about it for days. I've talked about it to every single person.

[Ed Larson]

You've been talking about it for years.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I've been talking about for years. I talk about it so much.

[Ed Larson]

You read an 800 page book.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Dude. I was.

[Ed Larson]

We were horrible things on a plane that I wish you didn't say.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We legitimately were at a hotel and Eddie and I saw an obvious sex worker. And it took all of my strength to not go up to the sex worker and say go home. You need to go home before somebody fucking kills you lady. Somebody's going to fucking shoot you in the head, lady. They don't care about you, lady. You got to go. Go anywhere.

[Ed Larson]

She seemed to nice.justice.gov Epstein Go search around for a little bit. Pick some names. Just start reading emails. It's just fascinating to like see someone as evil as him and how he talks and ran. He talks like we do.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They're. They are such morons. They are such losers.

[Ed Larson]

But it worked.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But their high minded stuff is an entire smoke screen to create a very similar to the murder. A sense of civility to entire industry based upon leverage. Sexual assault, hostile takeovers of businesses shortchanging us. They view us as expendable. This is the entire. This is the big message I'm getting.

[Ed Larson]

We're just way to get more money. All we are are crank out more kids for them to fuck.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We're primates that are supposed to work in the factories. Okay. That's all we are to them. So and make their things and if we're not there to bend them over or do the little fucking stupid jobs that they want. That's the reason why they're trying to replace us with robots. Because they're easy to do. So just remember that as you go through this material. Keep your head in a swivel.

[Ed Larson]

All right.

[Henry Zebrowski]

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[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh yeah, we even talked about it. Bill and Hillary Clinton live. They're coming February 25th and 26th to your local C span. They I cannot we're going to be.

[Ed Larson]

Able to watch this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Dude. I want a Mystery Science Theater 3000 it.

[Ed Larson]

How do we do that? Is that allowed?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Can we do it on Patreon or something? Yeah, I love I want to watch the testimony live and I want to do a drinking game. Yeah, let's do it. Cuz my view about Bill and Hillary Clinton is that Bill, he knows how to stand trial.

[Ed Larson]

Dude. He he went through all those impeachments. Didn't get impeached.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm going to put it this way.

[Ed Larson]

Had all that evidence. He did it and he like I did it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

These ass Napkins in Washington D.C. are going to get their. They're going to get them. They're going to get it handed to them by Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton.

[Ed Larson]

Well are they too old now? Are they out of the game?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Absolutely not. Bill Clinton's ready to go. Bill Clinton's been waiting for this his whole life.

[Ed Larson]

He's so sick.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This is what I think is happening. This is what I think is going to happen. So we've talked about this. They're coming in together, so it's. It's going to be interesting, you know, kind of separate. And in my mind is. We're all talking about. Obviously, one theory I have is that he's going to completely fall on the sword because he knows. Knows that if Hillary Clinton goes to jail, he's. She's gonna kill him from jail. I think that he's like. He's afraid. He's like. And I. The only way for her to do it, though, unless he goes in first. And he's like, I do guarantee. I saw Hillary wear a goat mask. Yes, I was there. It was her. Bill Gates. I saw Bill Gates. They flayed a Malaysian girl. They bit her clit off. I saw it. You have to arrest her. I feel their pain. Like, I could see him. But he has to get. That's why he's going first.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So he could maybe throw her under the bus, but otherwise, if he throws her under the bus, he's not going to.

[Ed Larson]

He could get. I mean, this could be his chance to finally be free.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bill. No. Bill Clinton. We have to remember, Bill Clinton is going to be immune.

[Ed Larson]

He's President of the United States because that is through the Supreme Court, which Trump enacted while he wasn't president, that you can't arrest a former president, dude.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And so this is where if. If Bill's a real g. This is when he uses his shield. This is when he uses his shield. Shield to go in and say, yeah, I'm a sex. I did rape. And so did he. And so did he. And so did he. And literally, just he could. Who knows?

[Ed Larson]

And then Hillary had nothing to do with it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, Hillary's just gonna. I think she's gonna let her eat the microphone, and then I think that she's gonna slash Marjorie Taylor green space open. So let's see. I can't wait to. Man. Get her in the cage. I want Hillary Clinton in that cage. Her and Marjorie Taylor Greene, toe to toe. That mean Marjorie. Marjorie's gonna flip. That'll be the thing, too. She'll come from the back. Because now she's a traitor, dude.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, yeah. Well, Marjorie. I don't trust that she's trying to become president.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't think she could become president of a book club.

[Ed Larson]

That's what I'm saying. I don't. I think she switched sides just so she can come back around.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, good for her.

[Ed Larson]

I don't trust this everyone, you know.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They all deserve each other.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, they certainly do.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They all deserve each other. All right, well, we've talked about this for 45 minutes.

[Ed Larson]

I'm sorry, but like why one more John Bday Ramsey. Everyone loved her. It's in our.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's in our wheelhouse every day. I wish I could. I wish we could have just had one joint together.

[Ed Larson]

So there is a picture in Jeffrey Epstein's house. A giant photograph with a little blonde girl wearing a jumper on his shoulders. Everyone thinks that little blonde girl is JonBenet Ramsey.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It looks a lot like her, but I will.

[Ed Larson]

JonBenet Ramsey had the same jumper.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's very possible.

[Ed Larson]

Who is the girl otherwise? Did Epstein have children?

[Henry Zebrowski]

They say he was nominated. They. We know he was trying to create a type of controlled scenario where his come would be put in all of these very selected models and he would populate whole like towns with his children. But we don't know how many children he actually had. He was congratulated on a baby boy by Fergie, if you remember her. Sarah Ferguson. Oh, yeah. She said congratulations on a baby boy. I have no idea what that means. There's several pictures of him with family members.

[Ed Larson]

Jeffrey Epstein had a secret child 15 years ago.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. And then there's also the story about. I mean, with JonBenet Ramsey.

[Ed Larson]

I imagine finding out Jeffrey Epstein is your father. You didn't know you had.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I mean, like, where's that money? I. You know. You know what's weird, Daddy? I think it's painted.

[Ed Larson]

You think it's painted?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think he did it as a.

[Ed Larson]

Funny joke because that Bill Clinton in the dress is painted.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Ed Larson]

Oh my God. And fucking.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think it's just a funny joke, buddy.

[Ed Larson]

You think so?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, unfortunately. Unfortunately, I don't think he had anything. There's no real corroborating evidence to put him in Denver. There's nothing that put him over there. There's no.

[Ed Larson]

It seems silly.

[Henry Zebrowski]

There's some connection to maybe JonBenet Ramsey and I mean if you really. Oh God, Eddie.

[Ed Larson]

They saw Ghislaine in the background of like the last photograph that she was ever in.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I feel like with JonBenet Ramsey still look at her. Baumeister. I think it's closer to those connections. I have no idea what's going on with John David Norman. We have to look at that singing.

[Ed Larson]

We never found her. I'd feel like we could talk about Epstein more with John Benetton.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I believe so too. I don't think that.

[Ed Larson]

I think that she was just killed in her own home. That doesn't seem like Epstein's M.O.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No. And I will always believe that she was killed from somebody outside of the family, unfortunately. But I. And that actually points towards some form of system involved.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Which I'm no longer gonna fight against. I'm no longer gonna. Like, this is. I'm. I'. I'm toast, guys. I. I'm. I re. I'm rereading Program to Kill. Just remember, with David McGowan, when you're rereading Program to Kill, that Henry Lee Lucas is filled with. But the Mark Dutroux stuff now makes even more sense. So that's all over. And that's all over in Europe. Oh, my God, Eddie.

[Ed Larson]

Russell Wilson tried to buy his boat.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, he did. He really did.

[Ed Larson]

The Giants owners all over it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And again, not necessarily due to wrongdoing doing, but punctutawes as well. This is the unredacted version, but it's a bad angle. But they say that. That it looks like her. Yeah, I'm saying it looks like a funny joke that he had made. Yeah, I think that he. Jeffrey Epstein was like that.

[Ed Larson]

He thought he was cute.

[Henry Zebrowski]

They all thought it was funny. And I. I legitimately think he made that as a. An original piece. That's super funny.

[Ed Larson]

Find the picture of his neck.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Give me. Give me the. Can you make one of me in that one? Maybe make me one. I want to be with air hanging. Can I be on JonBenet? Ra face.

[Ed Larson]

All right, well, we got updates.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, dude, do we have updates?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, we got updates. I can't believe we're just getting updates. This is. This is too much today. A lot. You. Great job on the info dump, by the way.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm sorry, everybody.

[Ed Larson]

No, no, no, You. They need it. I needed it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

As long as it made sense.

[Ed Larson]

No, it did. I followed the whole thing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wow, look at that neck. So, yeah, he got really. He got really hardcore strangled. Which he would have been if he died by suicide. But it does look like he's all bruised up and he very much. I mean, you know, they talked about the broken up neck bone.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So I don't know. Well, that's. I don't know, Eddie.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. Cuz did he hang himself from a doorknob or from the ceiling?

[Henry Zebrowski]

That I don't know. I think from the bed.

[Ed Larson]

From the bed.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I was from the bed. From the. Oh, yeah. Maybe from the bunk bed. Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

So it was, it had to have been murder then. I thought, we thought he did it himself. As a personal theory.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I do believe that. I still believe he was allowed to do it.

[Ed Larson]

They're like, hey, here's your rope. It's your time. Go do it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I think the day he's like, yes.

[Ed Larson]

I'll see you later.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I didn't think he'd do it before they were going to poison him or stabilize him to death.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, it was one of the other.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, I think so. That's my control over it.

[Ed Larson]

All right, so guys, Henry made a superhero.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So guys, it looks like we're just star makers right out of here. We're giving the last podcast bump out to a lot of guys. Some people deserve it, some people don't. This guy doesn't knows.

[Ed Larson]

He does not.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Sherman Shegan. God, the piggyback bandit has decided to own his leg legacy. So now the piggyback bandit, as we covered, we know that he has been banned from. He's like from five different states worth of high school sports.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He says now that he's been banned from over 20, he's super proud about it. The biggy back Bandit, just for you. Just so you don't maybe this, you know, his name, he's is Sherman Shagan. He's 42 years young, 240 weighing in. He's two weighing at 240 at a stout six foot one. He comes out there and he insinuates himself into high school sports games afterwards by dressing like a mentally handicapped sort of helper person. Right. He wears like a.

[Ed Larson]

He wear.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He looks like, he looks like he.

[Ed Larson]

Works for the team.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He looks like he collects the basketballs. Yes. And so he insinuates himself into it, very cleverly I might add. And he jumps on the backs of of young boys and then he rubs his genitals all over their lower back and then he'll advance to. He was re the one one time like when he was arrested is because he handed him a note that said, well, I hope that butt does more than poop and fart. And then here's $20.

[Ed Larson]

Yes, that still makes me laugh. He ain't cheap. We'll give him time.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So he's back at $20 is a.

[Ed Larson]

Lot for guy like him.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But so I have some theories here. I have some theories here. So Sherwin Shan, he called the police saying that he called someone else. He said he was having Chest pains. When he arrived, when they arrived at this, I guess he was a hotel.

[Ed Larson]

It was outside of Cleveland.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I have no idea how this guy is, is booking hotels and plane tickets and stuff.

[Ed Larson]

Like, I mean it's Greyhound.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's kind of hard. You still gotta figure out you shouldn't.

[Ed Larson]

Just be like, what's next. I'm honestly, I'm kind of impressed, you know, I mean those buses, you can just hop on them, man. I remember one time back in the day, like I was just like I was stuck on Christmas. I just started getting on buses that were heading north.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, yeah, I get it. No, I understand. So she again, he, they get there and Shayan is full. Remember George Costanza? Yeah. And Seinfeld when he's like also, also in there. There's a, there they, he's laying out naked on the, on his bed.

[Ed Larson]

Right. He's got a blanket on.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He knew he was naked.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, he knew he was naked.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So they, they said that he doesn't have to chestmain. It's like, nah, I just kind of wanted to wonder if you knew about me. I'm a piggyback bandit. And they were like, what? And then I guess he showed him, he showed him the footage of a podcast that had been covering him.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Recently.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I gotta say, I'm gonna go ahead and say it's like 75% chance it was us.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. He said. So they went to there, they didn't know what to do. They said the. During the Tuesday encounter, the hotel employee asked police to remove Shayan from the property because he was suspecting of stealing snacks. Which I guess how he, he lives, right?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He was not sighted. They warned the school saying that he's around and he said, he asked them, do you want a piggyback ride? He gets the piggyback, he gets the piggyback rides. He asked this greedy.

[Ed Larson]

You got to give some, you know, you can't just take, I don't know.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't want to inactivate him. I want to activate him. He then said that he went to the police. He was bragging about being banned from 20something states and he asked all the cops if they want to get a picture with him.

[Ed Larson]

Cuz he's famous.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Cuz he's famous and he's out there. He said that he was going to plan to leave the state on an airplane. Okay, so this is my question. Natalie first asked me how in the living is he making money?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I think he's, I, I, I just think he's probably Disabled.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He might be on disability.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But I. You know what? I'm actually thinking too, Eddie, and this is independently wealthy. I think this is real gross. I think that he's learned over time that men will give him money to do things to them and that he's learned to try to give money to other men to try to get something from men.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, you think he's a prostitute and just flips it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's just the way you put that. Like, it's. I don't think it's like a plan, you know? I mean, I don't think that sounds like a plan. I don't think it's like.

[Ed Larson]

Sounds like I'm gonna suck this guy's dick so I can. I can get on a big bag.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Right. But on one way, the way you just said it kind of sounds like the character from the song Pink Pony Club. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like a hooker with a heart of gold. You know what I mean? Like, it's not a. He's not out here thinking, oh, wow, that is just him doing the piggyback rides right there. You're looking at that video. He was. He's like a little chihuahua.

[Ed Larson]

He's more like a pug. He's definitely way more of a pug than a guy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I. We want him on the show.

[Ed Larson]

We give enough press.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You're not arresting too much Epstein style interview with him. I want.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Sit down with just me and him. Yeah. And ask him about his thoughts about the universe. Ask him where the soul goes. Ask him about, like. Yeah. What? Math is correct.

[Ed Larson]

Well, we can't do it. String theory in New Jersey, North Dakota or Montana.

[Henry Zebrowski]

All right, I'll tell you all about string theory. You got to do it. You got to pull it. Little tiny tugs. Yeah. Little tiny tugs.

[Ed Larson]

What's your theory of everything?

[Henry Zebrowski]

But the thing is, like, Natalie was like. So there's a part of me that really believes that I think that he might have just kind of. You remember Harry with the gold coins that used to go up to John at the Eckards? Yeah. So Johnny Moreno, that was on our sketch group Murder Fist was in our sketch group Murder Fist. When I was working at the photo development lab with him, there was a guy that used to come in named Harold. Now, I.

[Ed Larson]

He was like the guy from Family Guy. The old guy from Family Guy, He's.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's this guy. He used to go, harold, John, you got any gold coins? You gotta go coins. And that was when we had the dollar coins. The Dollar gold coins and be like, you know, so he'd give him like they'd change out money for the gold coins. He'd like the gold coins and be like, hey, John, you want to watch me do some push ups? You want to watch me do some push ups? And he'd be like, yeah, you know, I don't got time today. And he'd be like, you signed this contract, John. I'm a slave. I'm a push up slave. And it was this contract that he had to sign. It was all mimeographed and the whole. The whole thing was like, you're gonna make me do push ups until my arms are a popping and a kraken. And you're gonna them. And if they're not popping in a cracking, I do them until I'm popping in a cracking. And it's all like this, like, obviously. Then sit on his back. He wants you set his back while he's doing the push ups. And it's all like very. Because it's not sex because it's the wrong parts on the wrong sides. Yeah, but it's.

[Ed Larson]

It's definitely sexual. Yeah, of course. People are on all kinds of stuff.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You're right, Eddie and I don't want to shame anybody.

[Ed Larson]

No. Except for the piggyback mandate.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hey, at least Harold asked me for permission. Yes, and you sign a contract. Well, I mean, that's legally binding.

[Ed Larson]

Piggyback's asking for permission, right? No, he's not.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, he's jumping on backs without permission. He's trying to buy sex. Oh, and for you, if you want to open that back up again, I can remind you what his message was.

[Ed Larson]

I love it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's still one of my favorite. Ten plus note. This is $10.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, so.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And the note for letting me he give you a massage. This is $10 for you letting me give you a massage. Thank you for letting me give you a massage. Use the money. Also, I want to tell you, you tell me. I'm a grown sex worker. Also I want to tell you, you have a nice ass with those pants on. Use your ass wisely to fart and poop. Also, I heard if you wear your hat backwards, you fart more than other people. I got my hat backwards too. He's never wearing a hat though, in any of the pictures.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, you're right. He's got a big head. It's got to be hard to find it. It's definitely not a fitted hat. Definitely a snapback.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just about the flirty. I got my hat backwards too.

[Ed Larson]

Oh my God. What are we even doing here?

[Henry Zebrowski]

He makes me laugh. Oh, all right. Is there any stories that don't involve sexual assault?

[Ed Larson]

Joe Biden's ex husband accused of killing his wife.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, dude. Oh yeah. Hell ye. Yeah. That's a great story, dude.

[Ed Larson]

I just dropped. I don't even know what's happening. This is so insane. That headline made me nuts.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's so funny.

[Ed Larson]

It wasn't. I was just like, I was like. Let me check the news real quick before we jump in here. It's like what? So it is like two paragraphs still developing. William Stevenson, 77, a charge with murder in Delaware. Of course. Delaware. They love, they love their Delaware.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I don't understand what is going on in Delaware.

[Ed Larson]

Oh my God. This comes from. I found it on newser. Joe Biden's ex husband is charged with killing his wife. After weeks long investigation, it is 64 year old Linda Stevenson was found unresponsive in the living room and she was pronounced dead at the scene. Monday, 77 year old William Stevenson was arrested and charged with first degree murder.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Wow. Wow. She really knows how to pick him. She's got a type. She really does.

[Ed Larson]

Wow, he does kind of look like Crazy Biden.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He does. But I will say Joe's more handsome than him.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, he's definitely more handsome. You know what? Aged better.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I will say you could do a.

[Ed Larson]

Whole ton of push ups after all.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Of this being said and done. I just was like, I was watching the footage of fat, the fat fuck fucking shit his pants in the White House and they all have to cover whatever. And I was just thinking about like, you know, we misaligned Grandpa Joe because Grandpa Joe, when he shit his pants, he did in the privacy of his quarters and he cried tears of shame.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Like a real old man supposed to do like a real honorable old man. Joe Biden, when he shot himself in the fuck fucking White House. He hit it and he cried knowing his life was coming to an end because he felt it. That all he say that about him. That doddering old man knew he was dying and he took it on the ball.

[Ed Larson]

Hold on, Joe, you have to live one day longer than Trump. He's not going to live one day longer. That's all I ask.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He's not going one day, one hour. It's just, it's just one of those Biden, just to understand. I see your struggle and I'm glad you kept it in your pants for just the shortest amount of time.

[Ed Larson]

All right, you think, you think right when they found out the news, Joe, like, turned to Joe. I never liked him.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I never. Yeah. As soon as it all goes out, I think that he's just like. You mean to tell me, Jack, I could have been my pants in public this whole time I've been honest. Jack, me and corn pop. I had nine corn pops this morning. Half fell asleep. Is a log in my pants. Oh, my God. Is there tree nap?

[Ed Larson]

Oh. William Stevenson married Jill Biden in 1970 when they were in college. And they divorced in 1975, several years before she married Joe Biden. Wow. Holy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's really, really.

[Ed Larson]

Well, you know, Stevenson's the one who placed the 911 call. So we'll find out more as. As it develops.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, we will. Especially if you place the call. Sometimes you might be guilty also. Remember, too, when the cops ask you in a question, interrogation, this is one of my favorite. When they say to you, what do you think should happen to somebody who'd be guilty of this crime? They think you're guilty.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. I mean, some dude tried to break Luigi Mangione out of prison with a pizza cutter.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That was an amazing story, too. He walked in, said he was an FBI agent. They literally. They said he had a. I love the way these systems work, too. He walked into the jail, he said it was an FBI agent.

[Ed Larson]

Just has a piece of paper.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Piece of paper. He said, I'm here to legally release Luigi Mangione. And they were like, release Luigi Magione. Let's take a look at our paperwork. I don't think we were supposed to release Luigi Maggione. And it was just this idea of, like, yeah, obviously they weren't gonna really like. But I like that they checked it. They were like, well, let's just make sure we never know, you know? I never know. And so they go. And he. Yeah, he had a pizza cutter and.

[Ed Larson]

A fork, which is barbecue fork.

[Henry Zebrowski]

The single funniest thing that. To release the most Italian boy, it's deeply racist. He made. Might as well be like, I brought some grease so we could slick back his hair. He could slide through the slide. You know how. You know, Italians got soft bones? Yeah.

[Ed Larson]

Here's a flower. You eat it, you start throwing.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's racist.

[Ed Larson]

Here's a little bomb with eyeballs on it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Luigi thought you could use it. Here's some dough.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, kudos to this guy. Good for you, buddy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You think he played that as his, like, Q music?

[Ed Larson]

And Luigi heard it himself up.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Luigi's like, there is a somebody out there for me. There Is a somebody out there for my freedom.

[Ed Larson]

Man, watch Luigi get out after all this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

He just beat the death penalty. Yeah, he's got a very good lawyer.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, my God. All right, all right, we got.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And then also the other story about that we'll be covering updating is. So today's show host, Savannah Guthrie's mother, who's an 85 year old woman. Nancy. Nancy Guthrie. They're saying she was kidnapped.

[Ed Larson]

Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We have no idea where she is.

[Ed Larson]

There's a ransom note now demanding big money in bitcoin.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It just. I don't know if Suvan, I don't know if she has access to that. It's very hard to kidnap somebody and get that money. And it's really, really. I, I, you know, I don't know why they would choose her of all the people.

[Ed Larson]

I mean, she's a public figure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's just crazy.

[Ed Larson]

Just like, you know, you never know who they're randomly gonna choose. Dude, they remember when they kidnapped Cal Ripken jr's mom.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Ed Larson]

You know, you never know who they're going to randomly snag.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, this is why I get me. Mom's dead. Yeah, K. He's got no vulnerabilities. I put one of those GPS locators in my mom's vagina.

[Ed Larson]

Good luck getting that out.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, it's all sewed up. All right. You can't get out.

[Ed Larson]

All right, so we'll just.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But we hope, hopefully we will get information on this because it's actually quite scary. That's.

[Ed Larson]

It's terrifying. Poor Nancy Guthrie.

[Henry Zebrowski]

But Savannah Guthrie knows you can't negotiate with terrorists.

[Ed Larson]

All right?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Have any problems. Right? You'd be like, Michael, you could shoot her. I don't care. I don't negotiate with terrorists. I remember that line, dude, in the money.

[Ed Larson]

Give them the money.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, you. She does send me a pinky. Oh, you think you're gonna kill her? Send me a pinky.

[Ed Larson]

She does seem pleasant.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm just saying, Savannah Guthrie called her bluff.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, poor lady.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Sorry. Actually, I'm really sorry. I was just being fun.

[Ed Larson]

No, no, it's our job. Yeah. It's just sad to think of her. I'll just be. I wonder how annoying she's being to the kidnappers.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Well, honestly, that's the only. That's the best thing. It's like the movie. What was the movie?

[Ed Larson]

The Wrath. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I can always just see. Exactly. My mom was kidnapped. She would be released within the day. Okay.

[Ed Larson]

Trapped in paradise.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, that's. That's was trapped in paradise with. No, that's the bank.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, but they kidnapped their mom and she said, super annoying.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's funny.

[Ed Larson]

All right, we got some really fun. Some emails came in.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Oh, yeah, I have to read some of these, only just because, number one, you'll never make me feel bad about the death pool. Because we got reached out to by a family member of someone on the death pool and they liked it.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, they were very happy about it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And those of you who reached out to it, we love you. We thank you for listening and hit us up. We'll send you a shirt and we'll let you know.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah. They demanded that. That if they're their. If their. If their family member dies, that they get to pick the charity. You know what? Sure.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You got it.

[Ed Larson]

You got it. No problem.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Please.

[Ed Larson]

Are you ready, Eddie? Yeah. Yes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Are you horny, Henry? Yes. Sure.

[Ed Larson]

Now it's time for legendary.

[Henry Zebrowski]

There we go. So this one is about Ryan Wedding. I love this. I have no idea what if this is true or not. I love this little breakdown though. This is about Ryan Wedding.

[Ed Larson]

Yes. Our favorite Canadian snowboard supporter who recently got arrested for being a cartel leader.

[Henry Zebrowski]

El Jefe.

[Ed Larson]

That's a crazy sentence.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, right. That's why I love this story. So this guy did a little bit of breakdown. Who fucking knows? Since he's from Canada, he somehow gained access to the extremely lucrative heroin markets in their largest cities on the border. Vancouver then basically emerged after El Chapitos showed up with El Mayo in pocket. Basically the most productive parts of the Sinaloa cartel crumbled rather quickly and. And altogether Wedding was in a position where he was making the most money, he had the most international influence and was also able to do things like kill federal witnesses in FBI custody, which I have a hunch is why they had such a hard on for him. So in the Caloa cartel, El Chapo and one son were captured some time ago.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

In prison in the US now, then El Capito forms, which is a. El Chapo's kids. They form this fentanyl and her heroin focused franchise of the larger cartel. Then the last of El Chapo's sons kidnaps El Mayo, who was the financier and business manager of the whole cartel. He then flew him to Houston, turned him over while he turned himself in and probably got a sweet deal. After the dominoes fell, Wedding was left with the most lucrative markets and the muscle to put down his competitors. It seems that since this term of Trump's CIA, ATF and even Delta Force has been let off the chain in Mexico. Full scorched earth. And now the cartel fears the US Military special ops more than prison. So Wedding ARR changed and turned himself into the American Embassy in Mexico City. It seems like he was hoping to pull a Julian Assange, hoping to keep his extradition out of the embassy in legal limbo. But appears they just kidnapped his ass. So it honestly feels like the goal was very similar to Sicario Medellin, a dictator that controls the drug trade with whom we can deal with. And that makes total sense to me because we now know that Cash Patel, the YouTuber in charge of the FBI, he came out and said the quiet part out loud by saying that we were in Mexico when we got him, and we weren't supposed to say that out loud. And because he's bad at the job, and he was purposely put there to make the FBI almost impossible to work with.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

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Nice.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Look at this guy. Dude, he was big. Dude. He's huge. He has to be, dude.

[Ed Larson]

It's crazy, though, to think of. I just never think of snowboarders as being big and buff.

[Henry Zebrowski]

I would. I mean, I feel like. I think that he has gotten Buffer.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Since the snowboarding days.

[Ed Larson]

Since. So. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's what I would say. And I just want to do this one.

[Ed Larson]

He does look scary. I never been intimidated by someone who says they snowboard before.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, that's a. That's a scary man.

[Ed Larson]

That's a big, scary, scary dude.

[Henry Zebrowski]

That's a big, scary man. All right, so first one, I'm going to begin the process again. I don't care. I don't care.

[Ed Larson]

Oh, what are you doing?

[Henry Zebrowski]

So tomorrow you're going to listen to our. We're going to do a talk back on our YouTube page. You can go LPN TV. We're going to be doing a. You're going to come and talk to me. Shareholders meeting. I'm going to talk to all of you, all of your questions. We're going to talk about beyond the Veil, too. So go turn in. But I might be beginning this whole thing again.

[Ed Larson]

What do you mean?

[Henry Zebrowski]

I'm writing to you about a painting I own by the Vancouver street artist Ken Foster.

[Ed Larson]

Okay.

[Henry Zebrowski]

For those who don't know, Ken was a fixture of the downtown east side, a street artist from the darkest patch of four blocks in North America. I know what that's like. His work reflects that deep, dark, gritty alleyways. I'm not attaching a photo of this painting. I've come to realize that when this piece is faced outward and people can see it. Negative. Negative things happen. I originally gave this painting to my sister, who has a master's in art history. She loves art, yet for 10 years, she never put it up. When she finally gave it back, she told me she felt a specific dark sadness coming off of it. Like a deep secret was hidden in the paint. She could actually feel a negative energy pushing off the canvas. I took it back and leaned it against the wall, face out of my basement suite. Almost immediately, things fell apart. My car broke down. Electronics just stopped working. I felt a heavy physical pressure on my brow when I whenever I was near it. The flood. My basement flooded twice. The the water came up from under the floor into the carpet, was thick and sobbing.

[Ed Larson]

Maybe it's just irresponsible.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Maybe. Who knows? But the water never touched the painting and sat there perfectly dry in the middle of the mess. I moved to the laundry room by the heater. Three days later, the heater broke. My roommate who lives upstairs eventually admitted he got the exact same feeling my sister did just by being around it. I'm reaching out to see if Henry, Ed or Marcus wants this piece of for the office or somewhere in the LPN building. I'm happy to send it your way, but I'll just say this. Beware of what's happening once you turn it face out. P.O. box 470. I don't want it. North Hollywood, California. 603. We're going to. I'm going to house it. We don't need bad luck. I'm going to bring it to some other place. Put it in your storage unit. I'm going to bring it over to the Mystic Museum.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, the Mystic Museum.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bring it someplace.

[Ed Larson]

Or the Museum of Death. Well, this isn't a Museum of Death. This is more mystic.

[Henry Zebrowski]

This is more. If it's wrapped up in a piece of paper, it's not going to do anything.

[Ed Larson]

I don't like this.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Of course you don't.

[Ed Larson]

Why do you bringing this weird to the office?

[Henry Zebrowski]

Fun for me.

[Ed Larson]

It's stupid.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's fun.

[Ed Larson]

Irresponsible.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We'll see.

[Ed Larson]

I don't believe in any of this. But there's no reason to chance it.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Hey, I say rock the boat.

[Ed Larson]

Rock boat.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah. Dude, we're on Netflix.

[Ed Larson]

Know what we should do? Wrap it up gift to Netflix. You know, just by. Hey, you know Kai heard her deal dead Sarandos.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We need to bring it to another.

[Ed Larson]

Something for your office. Figured just a thank you. A you know, housewarming for us. Let's go.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Leave in front of Earwolf. Yeah. This has been a great episode, guys. Really has, right?

[Ed Larson]

Oh, absolutely. Well, I mean, thank you for the info dump. There'll be more next week, I guarantee it. There's millions of files to go through. I don't even think the world. I don't even think TMZ's had the chance to go through all of them yet.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And there's going to be a lot of Horeshit in there. There's going to be a lot of fake stuff. There's going to be a lot of stuff. We just use some common sense.

[Ed Larson]

I thought the Cialis pop up ad was a bit.

[Henry Zebrowski]

And honestly, the idea of like having to click on the. Are you over the age of 18 to be on a government website? It's wild. Wild to me. But thank you, guys. Live every day knowing for a fact we're the controlled opposition and we're going to have to be. Right? Yeah. Because we love being paid by various counterparts in the Russian government. You know that though. All right. And we laugh every day. When I get my. When I get my money from the disinfo groups I work for and when I get money from Jeffrey Epstein.

[Ed Larson]

Doubloons.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yes.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

So it can't be traced internationally. That's the goal. So just remember, never meet your heroes. Unless of course, you're a 16 year old girl.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, I like to meet my heroes. And my heroes, I mean.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Sandwiches, yo. Me too. Delicious sandwiches. Never done nothing to nobody.

[Ed Larson]

Ain't done nothing to nobody.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Nobody.

[Ed Larson]

Diabetes. We're gonna be on the road. I'm gonna be in San Francisco at the punchline on February 18th with Grant Gordon and Julie Rosing. And then Henry and I are going to Alaska. Anchorage. Sold out on February 20th, Fairbanks. February 21st, we're going to be in Urbana, Illinois.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Can't wait, dude, Honestly, it looks fun.

[Ed Larson]

It's going to be great. That's going to be on March 14, April 26, Lexington, Kentucky. May 7, Netflix is a joke festival here in LA at the Avalon. The Late Show 9:45 gonna be a hoot. That's May 30, we're gonna be in Rochester, New York. And on June 28, London, Ontario. And big announcement from me. Let's take it to the stage, baby. I'm going to P Funk Fest, Tallahassee, April 11th. I'm gonna be an MC. I don't even. We're working out what I'm gonna do. You're gonna be seeing me all day long. I can't wait to understand how this gig even happened, I'm very. I'm bringing my man Holden McNeely. It's gonna be a blast. And then the following day, I'm hightailing it to Jacksonville to do a show at Jumbo shrimp Stadium on April 12th. Tickets are available on anytunes.com I don't even understand. I mean, you want to come to this P Funk fest? Every faction of P Funk is going to be playing here. 420 funk mob, secret army, everyone. It's gonna be Garrett Scheider. It's gonna be bananas. Get your ass out there. I'm calling Juggalos. You're gonna love this. Any hardcore. All of, like, goths I want. You're gonna be surprised how much you love P Funk. Get your ass to Tallahassee on April 11th. We're gonna have a blast. Let's take it to the goddamn stage.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Yeah, dude. Can't wait. How did Epstein be so good at keeping in touch with so many people?

[Ed Larson]

He says, you know, you gotta have. I say talk to one person every week. Whether it's an email or a text message or a phone call, I should just connect.

[Henry Zebrowski]

We all learn from Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah. Could talk to your friends. Porn.

[Ed Larson]

Yeah, just. Just stay. Just say, hi, how you doing? You don't have to have an agenda.

[Henry Zebrowski]

No, just say stuff like, don't you think that black people are genetically inferior to your old friend?

[Ed Larson]

Yeah.

[Henry Zebrowski]

You know what I mean? That's what people like to do.

[Ed Larson]

That's what. You know, just check out the emails. If you don't know how to do it, go search justice.govepstein and take some notes.

[Henry Zebrowski]

It's that easy.

[Ed Larson]

Enjoy.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Bye. Bye.

[Ed Larson]

Hail Satan. Hail, Catherine o'. Hara.

[Henry Zebrowski]

Ha.