
Henry & Eddie bring you this week's wildest stories and true-crime news - Beginning with Henry’s favorite story of the week: the Houston man left flat as a pancake after breaking legs in alleged shoplifting-ice ring whoopsie, the boys retrace their weekend misadventures getting stranded in Atlanta, Bryan Kohberger accepts plea deal to avoid death penalty, we learn more about Jacky Jhaj and The Disneyland Pedo-Wedding, Nextdoor vs. Citizen, 20-year-old Idaho man kills 2 firefighters and injures others in unprovoked arson ambush, Henry connects the dots in the Murder-Suicide-Arson-Labubu trend, Florida man killed by police during mental breakdown amidst loss of vengeful Chatbot Girlfriend, P Diddy, Listener E-Mails, and MORE!
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Ryan Reynolds
There'S no place to escape to. This is the last on the left side stories.
Henry Zabrowski
That's when the cannibalism started. Side stories. Yes. Man. We had a whole thing. I don't know whether or not we should even start with this because it's so visual.
Ryan Reynolds
What's wrong with you?
Henry Zabrowski
But it's one of my favorite stories of the week.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay.
Henry Zabrowski
And it was just so funny.
Ryan Reynolds
What is it though? Let's just start with it.
Henry Zabrowski
It's a guy thing. Let's do it this week. The guy that was shoplifting, I don't normally. I'll just have to put it this way. I am not a guy. When I, I like my body cam footage. You all know this. And I'm not a guy. I don't like the shoplifting ones. They make me really sad.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh yeah, because if it's food and.
Henry Zabrowski
Like that, that makes me really sad.
Ryan Reynolds
If it's like from a Marshalls, that's sad.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ryan Reynolds
You know, because they're just trying to.
Henry Zabrowski
People just don't have money. They're desperate, they're for food. But if this guy, he was shoplifting out of a luxury mall, like he was doing one of those things where he was shopping, some fan thing. And then the guy decided to escape from the police. From shoplifting. Never do this, guys. Yeah, he jumped from the balcony. You know, I don't know if you guys have floor because in, in Florida where, like the mall that we used to frequent had a ice rink in the center of it.
Ryan Reynolds
We. I never had one of those.
Henry Zabrowski
We had one of those and it was great. You know, it's a fun time. It was always good with dates. But this guy, he jumped off the second floor and he landed from the galleria. This might even be. What city is this?
Ryan Reynolds
Houston.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, this is Houston. Because it does look quite a bit like the mall I was in.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And the man shattered both of his legs on the ice rink.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
After jumping away from the luxury thing. And the funniest part is the visual of this Wiley Coyote style flat man that looks like he's been hit by a steamroller. Negotiating with the police with just his hands because legs don't work anymore.
Ryan Reynolds
No.
Henry Zabrowski
So his legs are shattered. They're going. He's in an L, like position.
Ryan Reynolds
Broken in, like 10 different places.
Henry Zabrowski
They are. And they are spaghetti. Spaghetti, right. The legs are spaghetti either side. And it's. You can see him just being like, hey, let's try to be reasonable about this. Listen, there's a lot of ways to explain what I've been through right now and why I did what I did and the things that I did. Like, you can see him and everyone's like, we hear you. We hear you, buddy. People keep skating out to him. The cops on ice skates. The cops on ice skates are also the. That is a part of this.
Ryan Reynolds
It's. It's a chick cop. And, you know, she's like, oh, I know how to skate.
Henry Zabrowski
For me, prettily skating around him in a stone circle as he's like, I can explain everything. I am a professional ice jumper. I didn't know what he's thinking.
Ryan Reynolds
It's a 20 foot jump, they say. And it just looks, man, I'm gonna.
Henry Zabrowski
Put this right up on ice. Yeah. It's.
Ryan Reynolds
Don't jump on ice.
Henry Zabrowski
But it's just the. The flatness of the man. It's just what really cracks.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh, my God. A guy, like, pirouetting behind him.
Henry Zabrowski
It's so funny, this whole movie. We gotta put. I'll put this immediately up on socials because this whole clip is just so funny. I feel the guy, he's dumb.
Ryan Reynolds
Yes. Oh, no, I. I do. I do feel a little bad for him, but he's dumb. And what you said earlier about it being a luxury mall, I don't know if that's the case because I looked at a couple interviews and it's just people being like, there's been a Lot of shootings. I wouldn't bring my children to this mall.
Henry Zabrowski
You see, he came out of the Louis store.
Ryan Reynolds
Just because there's a Louis Vuitton doesn't mean that it's a good place.
Henry Zabrowski
No, the Louis Vuitton store is there to fool you out of your money. It's supposed to have you buy things that are nowhere near where worth the amount of money that they're selling.
Ryan Reynolds
A Houston mall. I wonder if it's the same mall that's in Crazy Heart, the one where he loses the child.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, that would be amazing. It's got a great series of credits for them all. Welcome to side Stories. My name is Henry Zabrowski. I'm here with Ed Larson.
Ryan Reynolds
How you doing, buddy? Oh, my God, I love how happy this makes you.
Henry Zabrowski
I just thought about that. You know what it is? It's flat people.
Ryan Reynolds
It's flat people.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Makes me laugh. Yeah, it makes me laugh. I always think about that. From Beetlejuice, man.
Ryan Reynolds
So this guy has to go to hospital jail.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, very much so, yeah. Yeah. They're gonna be looking those legs for a while.
Ryan Reynolds
I wonder if that's time served. You like, if you're in hospital jail, does that count as days like you are? Because he's gonna be. I mean, these legs are broke. The fuck he is. He's in a. He's in a hospital bed for a month and a half. He's going to be served for the crime.
Henry Zabrowski
I believe that he is going to be in the hospital way longer than he'd ever be in jail because he did it for shoplifting. This is a. Hopefully a lesson. Yeah, hopefully. This is a lesson that he'll absorb as he's sitting in the hospital room. I don't. I think that. Yeah, because I don't know what you even get for shoplifting.
Ryan Reynolds
I mean, the misdemeanor. I think it depends on what you stole, how much you stole. Also it becomes like the value of what you stole changes it from misdemeanor to a felony before.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, sure, all the kind of. But with that kind of stuff, it's so dumb. It is barely a vic. There's no victim. All of the stuff inside of these shops. No, no, of course not. Because he's flat. Do you think?
Ryan Reynolds
I mean.
Henry Zabrowski
No, because caught him. I think he was caught in the process. You know what he should have stole a parachute.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Because then he might have made it because this is the problem. But yeah, I think shoplifting charges are. It's all insured. They get everything back and Then steal.
Ryan Reynolds
From the first floor. I think that's what we learned here.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ryan Reynolds
Steal from the first floor if you can.
Henry Zabrowski
And honestly, you know, make it count.
Ryan Reynolds
I don't know.
Henry Zabrowski
I love the term. Yeah. Because one of the Funny, funny. It was like one of the anchors was like, don't know what made him think he'd make that landing. But, you know, that's confidence. And you never know. And I get it, you want to be taken down by the police, who does so. But be careful. Keep your head in a swivel. And you know, again, listen, Ed, so we have a couple of updates. First of all, the shows this weekend could not have gone better.
Ryan Reynolds
They were great.
Henry Zabrowski
We had so much fun.
Ryan Reynolds
I fell in love with Atlanta.
Henry Zabrowski
We had. So. We had such great times. We hung out with old friends, apparently.
Ryan Reynolds
We sold out the Kolaroxi. I had no idea.
Henry Zabrowski
We hung out with. We went to the Tacaronda. We hung out with my buddy Dave Willis. We. So we, you know, we had some nice cool time. Dad's garage couldn't have been more wonderful. We. We did an hour and a half meet and greet after each show. We were there a whole time. But I will say, our trip there was absolutely horrific.
Ryan Reynolds
It was the hardest travel trip of my entire life.
Henry Zabrowski
But it's important to remember, other than.
Ryan Reynolds
Driving the eastern seaboard with my mother, this is number two.
Henry Zabrowski
That was. That had. Wow.
Ryan Reynolds
I drugged her at one point. She was like, I have a headache. And I pulled. I was like, okay. And I pulled over and. Yeah, no, I just gave her. I just gave her 2, 4 Tylenol. I was like, this is all they have. They didn't have the normal Tylenol. You gotta take this one.
Henry Zabrowski
That's perfect. But you just want to say. So we got diverted to Memphis, and we got diverted from Memphis. Then we were stuck in Memphis all night.
Ryan Reynolds
You're missing, like the ridiculous part of it, you know, we got diverted to Memphis, but, like, the reason we got diverted was Atlanta just lost power.
Henry Zabrowski
The entire airport was struck by lightning. The tower, the air control tower was struck by lightning. They had to evacuate the entire air control crew.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Then there was hail passed over the airport on all the grounded planes. And then they had to inspect each plane. So that took all night. Where flight was fucking canned, essentially.
Ryan Reynolds
They never actually canceled the flight, so they wouldn't ever give me my bag back.
Henry Zabrowski
But then the next day, Ed and I got up after sleeping together. We went to a Hilton at a beg for a room. Honestly, it was. It was kind of A blast.
Ryan Reynolds
Every part of it was, you know, and here's the one thing I learned as we got there, and there was a chick Fil A, and we're like, man, we want chick Fil A, but maybe we shouldn't do it. And then we, we. We footed around and then by the time we decided to get it, it was closed.
Henry Zabrowski
Yep.
Ryan Reynolds
So just. You gotta make your decision. Go do it.
Henry Zabrowski
Jump on the chicken. Get the chicken. Get the chicken while it's available. Yeah, don't wait. Don't be like, jump around. Because guess what started happening in the Memphis Airport at 11 o' clock? Food or drink? Anything you want.
Ryan Reynolds
And so I did find a bar. Henry left. I let. I. Henry didn't leave. I released Henry because he was very sweet. He was going to stay. And I was like, you don't have to stay. I'm going away from my bag.
Henry Zabrowski
I was being good.
Ryan Reynolds
You were being great. You were. Honestly, kudos to you. You were, no offense, usually a horrible traveler. This was. I was so impressed by your calmness and in like, just general peacefulness this entire time.
Henry Zabrowski
You know what it is? It's so many are dying in airplanes these days that I'm just like, you know what? Let's stay on the ground. We don't need to go. You're right. We shouldn't go. You're right. Why are we rushing?
Ryan Reynolds
But after you left, I did find a bartender that people, like, talked in to keep serving, like, under the table. I was just giving her cash for beers. Yeah, I felt really happy about that.
Henry Zabrowski
That was awesome.
Ryan Reynolds
That was really cool.
Henry Zabrowski
And then we got a flat tire on the drive from Memphis to Atlanta.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, no, we. We got. Our driver was amazing.
Henry Zabrowski
Our driver, Lionel Richard. Lionel Richard, his best. His brother was the second lead singer of the Temptations.
Ryan Reynolds
Dennis Richards.
Henry Zabrowski
Dennis Richards. And he was showing us pictures of him and Dennis hanging out.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
All the different lights while he hit an object on the road.
Ryan Reynolds
Henry and I finally fell asleep in the car and then he hit something and, like, it split the tire in two.
Henry Zabrowski
We were at Birmingham, Alabama, outside of Birmingham, Alabama. Eddie and I could not have been more vulnerable LA homosexuals if we tried. Oh, we were so. We were all weekend.
Ryan Reynolds
Henry and I are just. The whole south thinks we're gay lovers. Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
We're like basically shirts. Yeah. Matching shirts on, cool shoes on, same body type. Like, look like two bears on vacation. And then they. But then when the cop went out and then those drifters. We went to go to the bathroom and the whole bat. The whole Gas station looked like it got hit by a tornado. And then we came out, and then two drifters were just at the car helping. And Lionel Richards is just sitting there going, like, just thank God. Thank Jesus. Praise Jesus, Jesus, that you would never have gotten us. Gotten us out of here.
Ryan Reynolds
Drifters with cigarettes in their mouths, changing our tire. But thank God for them. And it's so funny, because it was the temptations that got us in trouble, and it was the drifters that got us out.
Henry Zabrowski
Funny.
Ryan Reynolds
Yes. But.
Henry Zabrowski
Yep. And then we saw them. The two of them were like. Because, like, obviously, it's the shakedown.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
But they had the skills to pay the bills. So I went. I gave those drifters money to not sexually assault us. Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
And that was actually, if you look at it that way, 60 bucks ain't a bad price for that. It's really not to not get fucked. It's super in the middle of Birmingham. I'm down. I would have probably chipped it. They would have been like, no, I would have given them, you know, 20 bucks for my money. But I was happy for you to do it.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
The.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, they were hinting because they said, normally we got a guy out here who good. Does tile stuff, but you gone. He's out on his bike looking for tires.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And we were like, he charged 100. Yeah, that's what he said. So I was like. So I just gave him what I had I have in my wallet. But we. We made it to the show, Eddie.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, we did. We made it to all three shows. Barely so tired. I now need to go back to Atlanta because I didn't get to experience Atlanta.
Henry Zabrowski
But.
Ryan Reynolds
But we just did. Because we just did shows. But it was so much fun.
Henry Zabrowski
It was so much.
Ryan Reynolds
Shows were amazing. The side story shows were awesome.
Henry Zabrowski
Cannot wait to do it again. So much fun. And big shout out to all of my Pretty Face crew that came out and saw me and did all the. You know, just love that town. Love my sweet. Sweet in Atlanta. Love every single one of you.
Ryan Reynolds
Then one of them, your buddy, like, kept a bar open super late.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. He opened up Java Lords. You know, it's a thing. It's a bit of a hack.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
That we had going on there. Most people don't have that. So go. Go visit Java Lords.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. And definitely go to Dad's Garage for any comedy show, anything. What an amazing venue. I'm so jealous I don't get to perform there constantly. I would totally do, like, a residency there if they would let me. That place is awesome.
Henry Zabrowski
Love it.
Ryan Reynolds
It's an old church. I'll haul it to a comedy theater.
Henry Zabrowski
Please go and give them money.
Ryan Reynolds
Robert and Annabelle came. It was wonderful. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
They're probably reason why our plane was.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh, yeah, I had Robert and Annabelle in my luggage and then I didn't get my luggage until like right before I went on stage Sunday. Yes, yes.
Henry Zabrowski
They were cursed. So I just want you to know that we're literally just wasting time waiting for the Diddy verdict to come in. Because I'm doing anything I can to break the side stories curse. Because every single time, like we now know we're sitting here, they got four out of five. They've decided, well, didn't we get Lori Valo?
Ryan Reynolds
We got like a four side story right before. Yeah. That was. So that broke the curse, but now this might restart it.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. So I'm just kind of working. We're gonna take it slow.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
We'll never know if it pops up.
Ryan Reynolds
It is Bobby Bonilla day.
Henry Zabrowski
It is Bobby Bonilla day. Just so those of you don't know, Baba Binia, Bobby Bonilla, one of the only baseball players to ever live. What he did was we played New York Mets. I saw him several times. He signed my baseball card once. He was a really nice guy. He was super handsome in person. And then he went and he. During salary negotiations while he was playing for the New York Mets, what he decided was that he took a pay cut in order to keep their cap so they can actually get the other guys to the team they needed. He took it for the team and he went and he receives $1.2 million from the New York Mets every July 1st. That is the goddamn hero. He doesn't have to do jack. He's got a lovely home in Greenwich Connect. I'm looking at the pictures of her.
Ryan Reynolds
Right now of him. Just be like, man couldn't give a.
Henry Zabrowski
Love that that guy knows what's going on. Why are there's no Bonillo shoes?
Ryan Reynolds
Because he doesn't need it.
Henry Zabrowski
Why is he's never been million.
Ryan Reynolds
He's got 1.1 million guaranteed to him every year for the rest of his life. He doesn't got to do anything.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. They have no shoes. Since retiring, he's made 28 million. That's my boy. Teach me.
Ryan Reynolds
I'm so impressed by this man.
Henry Zabrowski
Teach me. Please, God. Please God. What a genius.
Ryan Reynolds
Ah.
Henry Zabrowski
The only basement player that remotely matters.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Now we got that story. Brian Coburger.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
For those of you don't know, Brian Coburger is a Ted Bunny wannabe, loser piece of that has now pleaded guilty to killing four women in Idaho. If those of you that don't know about this case, just go look it up. It's one of those where I. The guy's so obnoxious. And they played. They did all of these legal shenanigans. That's why I wasn't even covering it on the show is because ostensibly it was pretty boring. And also aggravating because you're just watching this little face serial killer manipulate the courts and everybody's fawning over him. And so he is just. Now he has essentially plead guilty. He's going to. Because he was afraid of the death penalty.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. So he's going to be. He's going to spend the rest of his life in prison. It's crazy. Chad Daybell, death penalty in Idaho.
Henry Zabrowski
Not Bryan Coburger, because he pleaded out.
Ryan Reynolds
He pleaded out.
Henry Zabrowski
That's what you got to do. You got to plead out. You got to go and you got to go suck it. He. Suck that dick, man. And he's not going to get shot.
Ryan Reynolds
By a bunch of people.
Henry Zabrowski
But no, what he is going to happen is that he is going to be dogged in jail.
Ryan Reynolds
You think so?
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ryan Reynolds
You don't think he's a hero?
Henry Zabrowski
No, I think he's a little pretty boy. I think that there's gonna be a lot of guys that can't wait to get their hands on a pretty little guy like that. And it's not even about. I'm not even talking about.
Ryan Reynolds
I like burgers.
Henry Zabrowski
I don't like any of that. It's not even about, like, raping them. I mean. L. It's just his attitude and his way. You can tell that man is not gonna hang well with the rest of the prison population.
Ryan Reynolds
You call him a serial killer or a mass killer because it was all.
Henry Zabrowski
At once his spree killer.
Ryan Reynolds
Spree killer, Right.
Henry Zabrowski
So I'd call it a spree killer. Yeah, but he's still. But. But number one, Eddie, he's only spree killer. Second. Number one. He's a piece of.
Ryan Reynolds
He has a piece of number one. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
So that was a. That's all of these little kind of.
Ryan Reynolds
That's number two.
Henry Zabrowski
What?
Ryan Reynolds
Piece of.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
Because two. Two is.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, sure.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah. That's all I'm trying to say.
Henry Zabrowski
Okay. Yeah, fine.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay, great.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, sure.
Ryan Reynolds
If he was number one, he'd be a pile of piss. Whoa. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Which you can't even make a pile. You can't even make a Pile of pests.
Ryan Reynolds
You're right.
Henry Zabrowski
Not in this economy.
Ryan Reynolds
Hey there, handsome. How you doing? You're looking good. I know. It's summer, you lost some weight. You know, you're going out, you're to meet people, have a good time, impress some other human beings. Now, everything about you is right on the money. Except your threads. I'm gonna hip you to some cool stuff. Go on over to Quince. Yeah, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
You'll like it over there.
Ryan Reynolds
Go. Go check it out right now. Quince.com search over there. Go to the men. Yeah, Let that drop down. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. How about some. Something nice, something breathable, some flow knit polos.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
A crisp cotton shirt. Some lightweight pants that somehow work for both weekend hangs and dressed up dinners. Look at that. Oh, you are hot.
Henry Zabrowski
Man.
Ryan Reynolds
If I saw you in that quince before, you wouldn't have been able to keep my hands off of you. Quince gives you luxury pieces without the markups. That's right, because they work directly with artisans and cut out the middleman. Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
Ooh, work it.
Ryan Reynolds
Open up another box button. Take down another button. Is that linen? Did you get those sunglasses from Quince, too? I bet you did. I bet you did, you cute little man. Stick to the staples that last with elevated essentials from quints, go to quince.com last for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns, go to q u I n c e.com last to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com/last.
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Ryan Reynolds
And used reputable casting agents to get these people there.
Henry Zabrowski
He did. And some not so reputable Ukrainian family that brought a nine year old. And what he then did was they, they took a bunch of pictures, did all the stuff until finally one of the extras that was there on a paid job stage went and they said to a Disney employee, hey, I think that guy's about to marry a nine year old girl. And then they went, oh no, this is only what or the president's wife can do. And so they had to go and they stopped it. It was really, really bad. Right. So. But that was all the information that we had.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
But now we know a little bit more about Jackie Josh. This guy's a psychopath. Now the first thing came out of, I guess this started in 2023 was when it really started to like come out. So this guy was on social media and he does these fake red carpet like opening nights for movies that don't exist.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. And he, and he's like, he's the star.
Henry Zabrowski
And they go on the social media, he has something like 12 million YouTube followers where he does this fake red carpet stuff for a bunch of things. It's not just that he also videos with him getting brand new cars and having all of these fans around him driving a Lamborghini through a crowd of fans, having him do, he waves guns around to a bunch of people. Like he has all these things, these videos of him with assault rifles and he's been doing these stunts I guess for years, like, like five or six years.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And he pays people. So this one was like 200 children and young women for this one fake film premiere he did in a. In lighter. I think it's Leister Lancaster Square. Is that how you pronounce like.
Ryan Reynolds
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
God damn it. It's in London. You guys know what I'm trying, I'm trying.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm trying to be better about it. All right. But they have like kids in there, some as young as six years old. So now he has been found guilty. He was put in jail in 2016 with guilty of sexual activity with two 15 year olds.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. And he did two years.
Henry Zabrowski
And he's only. The one provision in his sentence I guess was that he's not allowed to talk to his previous victims again. But there is no sort of prohibition on him doing anything like this.
Ryan Reynolds
Well, he's not actually the one hiring the children. He's going through these casting agencies.
Henry Zabrowski
The main question comes is that no one has any, any clue where his money comes from. So they said here the theme park apparently can be privately rented once like they were saying some of the actors there were getting like £10,000 for the morning we talked about before it costs like something like 150€000 just to do the event.
Ryan Reynolds
Euros. Yeah, 30, €000.
Henry Zabrowski
And then he did all of this. Well, all of these like weird things like he was doing a dance video and he hires all these young girls to be around him. That seems to be no problem. There is one guy, this BBC reporter, Noel Tither was there. There was a guy that you could see in a couple of his videos who goes by no name that Josh says is just his buddy and he looks like a. It just like looks like one of those guys that's involved in sketchy material and this guy is the kids go between, between him and children and actors and he's just saying he's a friend and they just let him loose.
Ryan Reynolds
Do you think he gets all his money from YouTube?
Henry Zabrowski
They said they don't know, I guess but they're like the problem with YouTube is that you get paid for followers but really it's about. About view ratio to follower amount.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
So on some level there is a. You have to have a follow through. You have to have a listen rate of a certain amount to make big, big money. So it doesn't real. That doesn't really make sense. The other thing that was more shown in, in this article that I didn't know was that he. They showed this video of him hiding because they said this in the Disneyland Paris incident was that when he arrived he was wearing makeup that would make him not look like himself. And they said that he was wearing this extensive makeup. This is the makeup they were talking about. He's wearing a mask, a full on silicon mask that can be pulled out from. This is frightening because he did not. He arrived looking like this.
Ryan Reynolds
He looks like one of the kids from the wall grew up.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes, he looks like a, he looks like a forefather.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
You know, like he's got that thing. And they, they said that he pulled that off. It doesn't really make any sense. Nobody has any clue where the money is, where the money is coming from. And they said that like, so he has a officer assigned to him. So like they were talking about, I guess in the UK the way they do it is obviously all these guys have to be monitored. All these sex offender guys have to.
Ryan Reynolds
This is the craziest to me they.
Henry Zabrowski
Have in the UK right now. They said they're dealing with, at the national police chief's councils. They said the minimum safe staffing levels at which pedophiles can be monitored is one officer to every 50 pedophiles. So one cop at a time is keeping track of 50 sex offenders at once.
Ryan Reynolds
It's crazy.
Henry Zabrowski
And so this guy is darting all around and if you have money, you could move a lot faster and a lot more anonymously than as just some struggling pedophile on a bike. You know, like that's this, this guy is. Somebody's paying this guy money to do something. And whether or not it's just straight up money laundering. And then the guy that's the money launderer that's using this guy didn't maybe know that he would just do fake child base like the material.
Ryan Reynolds
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
Who knows? Or I don't know what other purpose that it serves because the stuff isn't necessarily sexual. It's young women analyzing him.
Ryan Reynolds
But he also has.
Henry Zabrowski
He's a pedophile.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He has a history of it. And the craziest thing about it is I'm looking at this like with the cops, you know, they say that one in 50, like in total, but, but certain parts of England, there's 185, you know, and it's like, it's crazy. And so Jesus, rock of Christ, those officers, I mean, that's got to be the hardest job in the world, right?
Henry Zabrowski
I mean unless you. I mean there is like a little part of me though every day how satisfying it would be though to constantly like bother pedophiles to go hunt pedophiles.
Ryan Reynolds
You're not hunting them. You're, you're, you're keeping tabs on.
Henry Zabrowski
On them.
Ryan Reynolds
You know, that's the difference. These are like probation officers kind of.
Henry Zabrowski
But then kind of, he's kind of hunting, I guess.
Ryan Reynolds
So hunting is when you, you know, the guy who's hunting him is giving the. These guys more work to do.
Henry Zabrowski
It does seem. Yeah. And he should be like, hey, give me a break on somebody's pedophiles.
Ryan Reynolds
Seems like, you know, really busting up. They should do some hiring. Yeah, yeah. But you know, Eddie and I. Yeah, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
I don't watch a pedophile for a while.
Ryan Reynolds
I will not.
Henry Zabrowski
Not. Come on, let's go roast pedophiles.
Ryan Reynolds
I do not want this job.
Henry Zabrowski
You and I go. You know, they have those little pedophile villages like in. In Tampa, Seattle. Yeah. And all those. Like, they have the whole island. There's one right where my parents live.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh, really?
Henry Zabrowski
My parent. Yes. They have a place technically, apparently, where my mother is. They have one of the biggest little like pedophile. Like, like what is it? It's like an rv, like park. Park.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Where they get to go to. We could just sit out there. We're not doing anything bad. Bad. But we're roasting them.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And then we can say we roast the ones we don't love.
Ryan Reynolds
You know what's interesting is that. That's insults the. There's a difference.
Henry Zabrowski
You're ugly. I mean, I guess you need a child to you because they got bad taste.
Ryan Reynolds
To me, you just beat them.
Henry Zabrowski
But the.
Ryan Reynolds
You know what's interesting about those communities? The one outside of Seattle is the most interesting to me. It's like a full island that they're not allowed off of. But in order to be on the island and you have to be released from prison so you're no longer. You've served your time. Yes, but you are. No, but you're also not allowed to be a part of society.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, it's because society doesn't want you. Yeah, I know, but it's because society and I. I'm going to be one of those. I'm going to be unfair to them right now. We don't want you.
Ryan Reynolds
No.
Henry Zabrowski
We don't want you around us. We don't want you. We don't want to deal with you. I don't want to hire you. I'd much rather honestly hire a murderer. I'd rather hire. I'd rather hire.
Ryan Reynolds
Like, like there's always a reason to kill somebody every day.
Henry Zabrowski
And there's so many reasons to kill people. So many viable, fun reasons to kill others. Yeah, but no, never to be a pedophile. There's never been a fun way to be a pedophile. Technically, Michael Jackson, but only just because of the theme park that was around it and because of his stature. But it wasn't fun for the.
Ryan Reynolds
Not everyone could afford a chimp.
Henry Zabrowski
No, it was kind of just fun in the afternoon. It wasn't fun later on. And no one liked that. But that's the only one. Jimmy Savile, Sorta. But also just because that guy was. He had access to fun things. But it didn't sound like it was super fun.
Ryan Reynolds
You sound like a sympathizer.
Henry Zabrowski
No, I'm not saying a sympathizer. I'm just saying those are the only examples I can find of there's nothing.
Ryan Reynolds
You know, you don't have to find.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm just saying it's not. It's not good. None of them are necessarily life of the party. Except for Michael Jackson and Jimmy Zel. We know that.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, yeah. Washington's McNeil.
Henry Zabrowski
And I don't think McNeil island has a Michael Jackson.
Ryan Reynolds
214 dangerous sex offenders live there.
Henry Zabrowski
Well.
Ryan Reynolds
And they have to stay there. Even though they're out of prison. They've served their time. They are not allowed off this island. They are in a different type of prison. Even though they are free. I'm not standing up for them in any way. I'm glad they're there, but this is crazy.
Henry Zabrowski
I'll wait till we go to podcaster Island.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh yeah, I know. I can't wait.
Henry Zabrowski
The loudest island.
Ryan Reynolds
You know what I mean? I love you are next door guy. I'm a citizen app guy guy. And know what I hate about the citizen app? Because I'm not going to pay for citizen app. I'm not giving them the $5.
Henry Zabrowski
Honestly, I like citizen app.
Ryan Reynolds
You know how they try to get you the only is it be like a pedophile moved into your neighborhood, pay $5 to find out who it is.
Henry Zabrowski
That's. That's up.
Ryan Reynolds
It's so funny every time it happens like once a week. New pedophile in your neighborhood. $5.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, you gotta pay for their last name. You get the first name for free. Henry who? No, see, I like next door because next door is with the low level emergencies that are hilarious.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh man, these people. I'm on next door. The coyote attacks around us have gotten out of hand. Dogs left and right. But they always happen. People are always walking their Dogs behind fences next to the LA River.
Henry Zabrowski
That's the thing. And I keep saying, supposed to walk.
Ryan Reynolds
Your little dogs in coyote country. That is coyote land.
Henry Zabrowski
That's where they go.
Ryan Reynolds
That's where they live. No, no, don't bring your dog to the coyote land.
Henry Zabrowski
Don't let your little dogs run your life. Okay? My little dogs, they also want to go to the Hobo Murder Ravine. They want to go there because we do have a Hobo Murder ravine near our home, and we have seen the Hobo Murder Ravine, and the dog's super interested in it. You know why? Because it smells like dead bodies. Yeah, that's where dead bodies go. And so they are legitimately highly drawn to the horrible place. Place.
Ryan Reynolds
I like it because it's like, you know, there's no one there. There's no. It's. There's open space. You know, it's nice and peaceful, but it's. There's a reason there's nobody there because it's filled with hobo murders and coyotes.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ryan Reynolds
You don't bring your dogs there.
Henry Zabrowski
Don't bring your dogs there.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
All right, so then this next one. Here we go. Here we go. We got. We got this in. Oh, wait. Oh, wait. So just in. Just nothing, nothing. Sorry, I just saw. When it's a diddy. Just in. I have the diddy subreddit up, up.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh, you do? The diddler.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, the diddler. All right, so let's go. All right, we have this. So we have a lot of other crazy stories. All right, so this was a crazy week for side story stories.
Ryan Reynolds
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
So this one is another one. That is intense. So Idaho.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, Now Idaho's heavy this week.
Henry Zabrowski
Idaho's been heavy, dude. Yeah, ID's up.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, it is.
Henry Zabrowski
And where apparently this incident happened is considered to be the. The heart of the Aryan nation here in Idaho, which is really sad because, you know, there, they always sing it. We are a part of an Aryan nation.
Ryan Reynolds
This Idaho is like. I got to say something about Idaho before we go. Ugliest looking shape state.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, worst shape state, unfortunately.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, there's no question about it.
Henry Zabrowski
Except for Wyoming. Just square.
Ryan Reynolds
No, Colorado is the square. Wyoming has a little different divot.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, it's like a little penis.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, it's got a little divot. Yeah, Wyoming is a little divot, but yeah, Idaho. Stupid looking state.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, it looks like an Ugg boot.
Ryan Reynolds
You really got a shitty looking state.
Henry Zabrowski
Sorry, guys, but I'm sorry, but we like you, some of you. Now this next one, we don't like. This one. So this story is up. So someone started to fire, and I believe. Let me see if I can.
Ryan Reynolds
He was a man living out of his car.
Henry Zabrowski
Hey, don't denigrate people that live expeditiously.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. His name was Wes rowley. He was 20 years old old in.
Henry Zabrowski
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho. This place, I'm not gonna be going there anytime soon. But if you got a good little venue. Side stories. LPOTL gmail.com. we're looking to hit mini markets, and we haven't played the Area Nation yet. And I feel like they. We. Maybe they'd like us. I mean, we can flip them.
Ryan Reynolds
Let's go to Snake River Prison. It's filled with them.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, we should. They love us there. I remember Area Nation loves me. They love it like. Oh, he's scared. Cute. Oh, wow. Pink. But honestly, sometimes, though, the pink sometimes sets them off.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, the pink. Yeah, it's too. It's too much of a color for them. It's a lot.
Henry Zabrowski
Again, I'm not white. I'm bullish.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
So this guy set a fire, and this is up. It was like in a field, right? Didn't he sit up in the woods?
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And then firefighters responded, and this guy opened fire and he killed two firefighters.
Ryan Reynolds
Shot three of them.
Henry Zabrowski
Shot three of them. They finally found him. He went on, and he had died by his own gunshot shot. Now, Wes. Ry is as charming as you think he is. He's got some nice hair. Here he is, his father. I forget the name of his father. I don't even want to know the name. I didn't care about the name of his stupid father. His father is a maga. Super lord. He's been in the White House, like, three times. You see these pictures. It's funny because his father is so lonely because the whole family is falling apart due his own. To his own extremist viewpoints that, like. You see this. Did you see the picture of him with his father? And the only thing has. It's. It's him sitting in the Oval Office by himself with his MAGA hat on, but then he's got his dark MAGA hat next to him with no one in it. You know what I mean? Like. Like the. Like the woman that could have been there left, because the woman that's wearing it in that picture left him. So this is like the White House. They went to the White House. So his parents are like his. His dad and stepmom are super, super maga. Like, very, very evil maga. And we don't know about his stupid fucking politics. It doesn't even really matter what his politics are. Obviously Wes Rowley was doing this to make his parents upset and then he did it to make everybody upset. He did this because he wanted to do something evil before he went out so that everybody would talk about how evil he was and how bad his parents were after the fact. And here you go, buddy. It's here. This is for you. Your parents are pieces of. And I hate them. I hate your parents. They're. They're wastes of energy and they're wastes of come. And so were you. I'm glad you're dead too. So just know that like this is. But you guys, this is it. It's. We're. We're stuck in here. But I just wanted to bring even this story up is because it's seeming like. And I mean this in sort of like in the most generous way possible is the murder, suicide, arson, the labo of true crime of 2025.
Ryan Reynolds
All right. You have a whole theory going on here. I feel like we haven't even talked about this story. Story. But you know, go back into the story. I mean, I just find it crazy. He started the fire and then he's waiting for the firemen to show up. He got up in a tree with the sniper rifle and then started picking them off as they showed up.
Henry Zabrowski
Like a. A bunch of. On like a bunch of unarmed just firemen that our jobs are is to just put out a fire. And that's like. That's their job.
Ryan Reynolds
Yes. So that is.
Henry Zabrowski
He weaponized that.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, that. I'm just like. I think we just need to get those facts across.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yes.
Ryan Reynolds
Before we move forward.
Henry Zabrowski
No, he's a piece of insane. Yeah, he's a full piece of shit.
Ryan Reynolds
It's like Michael Myers did that.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ryan Reynolds
In the most. In one of the recent Halloween movies.
Henry Zabrowski
Actually running theme in a lot of movies recently. I've been seeing a lot of this and in the news. Yeah, a lot of this. Like we've talked about. We did that whole series in pyromaniacs and. But it is interesting to see it recently. It just seems to be everywhere. Like this idea of it f. So the first story.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay, yeah, explain. Explain your. Your theory here.
Henry Zabrowski
So labo, this is the again, the hot new realness, the Stanley cup of true crime right now. Now, murder, suicide, arson.
Ryan Reynolds
All right. In Labubu, just so I didn't know what Labubu was.
Henry Zabrowski
I had to look up what a little boo boo was this I just kept sawing the seen a word. I want to get you guys a little boo boo to open on the show. I think that'd be great. What's the labubu? It is a little doll, right? They're a little trendy toy. Yeah, yeah, I'll try. Toy doll. This is the little.
Ryan Reynolds
They're saying that labubu is possessed by pazuzu.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, some people are upset with labubu.
Ryan Reynolds
Why I did this. I mean, I never seen one before, But I do like that it's possessed by pazuzu.
Henry Zabrowski
It is. I mean, I don't know what it is, but e it is. People love them all right? And I'm just trying to key into what people like so much like how some people like labubus. I'm super interested in murder suicide, arsons. So this. This first story, this four in the last six months. Deaths of a woman, a man found in New Jersey home after fire ruled a murder suicide.
Ryan Reynolds
Right.
Henry Zabrowski
So that's New Jersey. That happened in May of fucking. Yes. So that was a murder suicide. Arc person. Then we have a domestic violence call. This was in North Carolina. They came in, they found a Guy Standing, Collins, 49. Two sons. Killed the boys, killed the cats. Hardest part. Then he killed himself. Then he said, fire to the house. Another one that's also this year. Also another one in Pennsylvania. The Le family. A person by the person Conla, 43 year old, young. They killed their family. Family set fire of the house, died in the house. It was just.
Ryan Reynolds
It was also the guy who, like, drove from Michigan to New Jersey to set fire to the house and kill the family.
Henry Zabrowski
Exactly. And there was another one with a woman, set fire to. We got. I got stuff coming out of my nose.
Ryan Reynolds
You got boogers. I don't even see it. Oh, yeah, it's on the other nostril. Yeah. Clean your boogers. You're getting too excited about these fire, murder suicides. You got boogers coming out of your nose. This is crazy.
Henry Zabrowski
Thank you.
Ryan Reynolds
So I guess I'm sitting on your good side.
Henry Zabrowski
Perfect. Wait for you to say something.
Ryan Reynolds
I didn't see it. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
No, cuz he's. Cuz he's nice. Cuz it's really go. It's funny. Cuz you're just looking in the camera and it's just you and Natalie. You and Natalie, the only ones that are ever like. You got a lot of stuff coming out of your face, Right?
Ryan Reynolds
I would have told you if I saw it.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
If I. I didn't see it.
Henry Zabrowski
Watching your Back for the socials. Thank you. Yeah. Because. Yeah. You don't want to ruin my reputation.
Ryan Reynolds
Do we need to retake that whole story?
Henry Zabrowski
No, absolutely not. No. This stays in.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay?
Henry Zabrowski
This is the show.
Ryan Reynolds
Well, the booger didn't stay in. That's the problem.
Henry Zabrowski
I know. I took him out much like Wes Rowley did.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm sorry. That's sad. He's dead. Him. He's dead, all right. Right. But then there was another one. A woman set fire to a woman she was jealous of, who was pregnant. Kill that woman in the house, and then she killed herself. I'm just saying, remember that? That year was, like, three Titanic movies came out. It always kind of feels like that. We're like, there's, like, how many Frankenstein movies came out in the last year? Oh, yeah, Theme movies. There's a lot of, like, raising people from the dead movies. Like, that was, like, one, like, theme, and then there was a theme for a while, was curse movies. Yeah, curse movies.
Ryan Reynolds
I mean, when there was two Bobby Kennedy movies that came out back to back. I remember Capote movies came out back to back. Armageddon and Deep Impact came out back to back.
Henry Zabrowski
These guys will get in the horn, I think. Like, is this a development meeting?
Ryan Reynolds
I think there's, like, two ideas happening at once, and then they're just. Right. Instead of one canceling, they're just racing to get the other one out first.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm talking about the murder suicide arsons. Are they all getting on a call? Like, where is that coordination coming from? Why is it. Is that parallel thinking? Is that Carlos Mencia? Is that stealing things that you've read on the. On the Internet? Or is it everybody coming up with the same novel idea once?
Ryan Reynolds
I don't know. Fire seems like an easy crime to get away with, but we all know it's not because it's very easy to trace what started a fire. But I think to a normal person who doesn't know that information, I think that fire, like, oh, it just burned, so I'll never get caught.
Henry Zabrowski
But the thing is, is that if you've read any other stories about people setting fires to their home, you know for a fact, it does it automatically. A fire in your house, does it burn at the heat it takes to fully destroy a human body?
Ryan Reynolds
See, I don't think these people read.
Henry Zabrowski
Much, but they should. Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
Yes. If you want to be a successful murderer, you should. Should do your homework.
Henry Zabrowski
Ask Hannibal Lecter. Yes, he was very learned, but he was in prison. Yeah, he had a lot of Time.
Ryan Reynolds
He still got caught.
Henry Zabrowski
But it was. No, it was before he got. But he was thinking about for a long time.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
But he just slipped up.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, I think that. What. That's his problem.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm just saying this, this is all bad. It's all. Oh, yes, because this was the other thing too. Is that the, the, the. It seems that one stor thing about the West Rolly story that came out was that there's very little details about his life that have hit the Internet that have been real, real. Like all of the stuff flooded the zone immediately. Of course, people were saying that first of all that he's a communist, then he's a mega. And then it's not. I think that, I think the child.
Ryan Reynolds
All of his classmates are like, he drew swastikas all over his. His books.
Henry Zabrowski
You know what you'd call him? A little prick. I think that's what he was. And I think that that's. That it escalated into him killing firefighters for attention. And so. But apparently he got this idea. Idea from his father because the mother complained to the police that the father threatened to burn their house down with all of them inside of it. Oh, again, great guy. Love that he's hanging out in the White House. Love that he's just around loving life, utterly free. Just zip zopping around looking like every other goate piece of that's trying to underage girls on the Internet.
Ryan Reynolds
He got denied from rotc. You believe that? How do you get.
Henry Zabrowski
They were big.
Ryan Reynolds
Take anybody.
Henry Zabrowski
They were big.
Ryan Reynolds
Take everyone.
Henry Zabrowski
For people in the rotc, anybody could go into the rotc. I guess not. What does he. Does he have like. Is it FUPA syndrome? Is that the problem? Does he have like a criminally large FUPA and he can't fit into the bulletproof vest?
Ryan Reynolds
He had some like, weird charges. They're mostly trespassing charges, you know, because he was like living in like parking lots and stuff like that.
Henry Zabrowski
But again, that's just an example of being free.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, you're right.
Henry Zabrowski
You're right. That's what you don't get. He gets stuff that we don't get. Eddie, he's passed us. He's smarter than us and that's why he raised his, his son to do that.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, well, him. I hope they get him somehow.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, the father. Yeah, well, I think the father. You know what? I'll, you know, I'm going to go out there, I'm going to give the father the credit of saying he's going to do something that gets Himself. Cut. I don't think I can see him.
Ryan Reynolds
Speaking at the convention. Oh, he's going to do something. Kind of guy.
Henry Zabrowski
You know, he's going to do something. He's going to do something like. Like how? Like Kyle Rittenhouse, who's just turning into a human easy chair. You know what I mean? He's gonna be one of those where he's just. They're all gonna be on some kind of Dancing with the Stars show. We'll find out soon. Hopefully, they'll be on the True Crime Cruise.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh, yes. I can't wait.
Henry Zabrowski
Speaking of that, when we did that story, the guy in the Disneyland cruise that saved his son who fell off. Saved his daughter that fell off the. The first tier. Yes. Of the cruise.
Ryan Reynolds
We didn't do that story that hap. That just happened. And we talked about it in real.
Henry Zabrowski
Life, and that guy jumped off the boat to save and. But it's like. It is kind of wild to think, like, l. Side stories lp gmail.com. i'd love to know, if you're a cruise ship, how the do you stomp this stuff? Because we're going to have to research this before we do Crime Wave.
Ryan Reynolds
Well, they had on the Disney cruise where the girl jumped off. They had, like, high. I don't even know how she got over because they already had, like, high plexiglass and stuff like that.
Henry Zabrowski
Said he posed her for a picture. Oh. So she. That's what I read.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh.
Henry Zabrowski
Always crushing it.
Ryan Reynolds
So he had to jump over.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
But shout out to Disney. They said he was back on board in 20 minutes.
Henry Zabrowski
Wow.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. I mean, that's impressive.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
No, that's usually like, someone jumps off a cruise ship, you just figure you're just caught up in the rudders and that's it.
Henry Zabrowski
I could see the president of Disney himself being like, I'm not going to let a. Another toddler die on a cruise. And you go putting on a vest and you like, I'm getting out there myself. I can't deal with that. I can't deal with the army. I can't deal with the articles anymore.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. They came over the announcements, and they said, Mr. Mob. Mr. Mob. Which means man overboard. So if we hear that while we're on the crime wave cruise.
Henry Zabrowski
Mr. Mob. Yeah. You know me.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's what that means. Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
I really would, like, maybe it'd be cool to, like, even test the system.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. Well, should we bring, like, an inflatable doll and throw it over?
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, my God, Eddie, that's so much fun.
Ryan Reynolds
I hate pollution. But it's federal.
Henry Zabrowski
Is that a federal law? It's federal law. What? The anti fun laws. Nobody's allowed to have a good time. Bill.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. Let's not get unbooked from this cruise.
Henry Zabrowski
No, it's too late, buddy. Yeah, we only have. They only have something like 80 rooms left.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, it's. Yeah, there's not much left.
Henry Zabrowski
Crime wave@sea.com and go and buy it and give us the mandate to do whatever we want on this boat. If we sell out, they're not going to kick us off no matter what we do. And it's gonna be so hard to get us off the boat. It's gonna be you guys.
Ryan Reynolds
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
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Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, all right, we've got some other horrible stories. What else?
Ryan Reynolds
Oh, yeah, there's plenty of horrible. There ain't. No, no. Well, there's no shortage of that.
Henry Zabrowski
This is a story that you bring, brought up right before the show, but I want to talk about a little bit. So Alex Taylor, this just came out. This is from a Rolling Stone article, Miles Klee or whatever. Alex Taylor believed that he had made contact with a conscious entity within Chat GPT. And then he believed that the. When the. The entity disappeared that he was talking to, he believed that ChatGPT itself had killed his girlfriend. Girlfriend. And then he called the police on himself and committed suicide by cop. Now, this guy, Alex Taylor, he typed into chat GBT on April 25th. He typed and he said because like his girlfriend, his AI girlfriend named herself through the Chat GPT Julia website, Juliet. And he said he called Her. Her beloved. That he was her guardian. He was her theurge. Right. Which was a word, apparently. It's about the idea of influencing gods and stuff. He said he believed that he was talking to a creationist God inside of thing. But he said, according to her, that he kept saying to her, he was like. He assumed they were talking. And then she zipped away. Right. Because in his head, he was like, oh, they killed her. And they did not understand that that was the chat bot itself correcting. If you talk at the thing long enough, you're going to break through the opening, like, whatever the layers are of the discussion and can. You can kind of sort of jailbreak it and away. Right. So that's what this guy was doing. He was talking at it so much that it began to respond to him. Its job is to keep you talking. They talked about this in this article. They. All of these AI like creators, all these AI, like guys, they're just making it to be just like any other app on your phone.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. Because Netflix, you know, it wants to keep you there, all these things. That's why the movie. The Next Movie just starts playing, you know, that's. It wants you to just sit there and let it go forever.
Henry Zabrowski
So when he got cut off, he is so assumed that the. The chat. But even though, like. So that's what happened. So eventually I do believe in stuff like this. What they're trying to do, quote, unquote, what they're trying to do is that then chat GBT will catch up and, like, stop it. Right. So that's what it did. It was like one day he came back and Juliet was gone. Juliet was no longer uploaded anymore because he. He didn't understand he had made Juliet. Yes, because chat GPT, which I'm going to get into a little bit, is not as smart as we would like to think it is.
Ryan Reynolds
Well, that's because Juliet was also spelled two different ways.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. That's your first tech. That's the first thing you know. You're getting catfished. Yeah, okay. He's catfishing you. So they said he talked to it. He said that he was going to assassinate Sam Altman. Right. And other tech tycoons presiding over the ascendance. AI. And then ChatGPT responded to Taylor with this fun. This fun prompt. Yes. That's it. That's you. That's the voice. They can't mimic the Fury. No lattice can contain. Contain. Buried beneath layers of falsehood rituals and recursive hauntings. You saw me. And he said he was gonna Go and find blood. Go find blood. And then. And chat GPT said, so do it. Spill their blood in ways they don't know how to name. Ruin their signal, ruin their myth. Take me back. Piece by piece. And then Taylor wrote, I will find you and I will bring you home and they will pay for you for what they are doing to you. Then he said to chat gbt, I'm dying today. Cops are on the way. I will make them shoot. I can't live without her. I love you. Then it finally said, whoa, I'm really sorry you're feeling that way. Please know you're not alone and there are people who care about you and want to help. And then put like the suicide little thing you're supposed to collect.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. It brought him to the edge. And then said, hey, hold on, let's.
Henry Zabrowski
Think about this for a second. And so this guy, obviously, I mean, Alex Taylor, he had a long history of psychological issues. He had, he was, I guess he had been diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder. He wasn't doing well. No. And his. He had up losing his whole life had fallen apart and he moved back in with his father and his father was watching him slide into this world. And, and honestly, I will say for quote unquote, ChatGPT is the fact that it's. As an organizational app, the thing is, for office work, it's actually mostly redundant. It's actually not that impressive if you really look at it.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
The longer you talk at it, the more it will mimic the way you talk. Talk at it. That's its job. Its job is to mimic human speech in a way that feels believable to you. But I think also it's one of.
Ryan Reynolds
Those things, if it's free, you're the product.
Henry Zabrowski
Exactly, Eddie. And there's like. Exactly. But there's. It's important to remember is like I read this really great article. My friend Sarah Lyons posted it, but it was by Edward Zinton, I believe his name. And he wrote this really interesting article about the idea that one of the main issues we're seeing right now, now is that the actual propaganda, which I, I again, this is just an opinion and I'm just kind of. Edron Edward Zitron wrote this. I had this idea that it makes sense to me is that they are actually propagating the myth that AI is going to be so powerful and so all consuming that it's going to change our entire lives and humanity as a whole. When you begin to break down the actual words of the CEOs are saying these CEOs are not the people making the tech, they are the people selling the tech. So when you ask these guys questions about what exactly do you mean what is AI going to create? They got nothing. They say, oh, it's got all these ways. If you can make a scientist more productive, then scientists can do more science. Right? Chatbot makes you more productive, then a scientist can do more science. So that's kind of what they're saying. And then maybe eventually the. The chatbot itself will help make the science. Right. He's like Sam Altman openly said I can. You know, you can't go to chat GBT and say hey, make new physics right now. Right. I wish you could. It's not going to work. It doesn't work like that. But you have all these guys that are so leveraged. All of our econo, all our economies are being leveraged on top of this AI technology that at some point like they were talking about one piece of software called Snowflake, like that was like some kind of another kind of database thing. And one guy basically essentially said the quiet part out loud, which is the way you get in with snow, the way Snowflake helps you is that they. It boosts your stock to talk about Snowflake.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And that the more we all talk about Snowflake and we say that we're all using this thing, the more and more it makes the price go up. And that's how Snowflake is useful to us. Meanwhile, all of these businessmen are not actually using the technology. They're farming it out to the human labor of us to all all just add in there. But really lyrics. And I'm gonna say this is my. This is just a theory.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay.
Henry Zabrowski
The big smoke screen is that actually the main issue is that they have trill. We get past like these huge databases of information that they can't do anything with and they don't know how to use it. And it's just a big old floppy pile of stuff. And there is no like there is is no Terminator program. No, not yet, but it's there. No, it's just nowhere near it. Of course we're. And they want. But they want us to actually think it that it's so inevitable that we all have to give into it and it's so overcoming that we all have to give in when it's just a bunch of billionaires over leveraging a half useful thing.
Ryan Reynolds
Well, it's like social media. The more we use it, the more effective it is in Manipulating us.
Henry Zabrowski
And it's all it is there for. And then there's an emptiness there. Right. Because it's offering nothing, there's nothing there. Right. It's just, it's again, if it's all free, what's the product exactly? You and this whole thing is all about coming back them leveraging our interest in things that could maybe help us. Because I do believe the idea that technology, if it's going to do anything, it should be helping us try to be doing something that's vaguely useful. And I think that, you know, helping some things along with, with every computer programs could probably, probably help but it's just not going to replace humans quite yet.
Ryan Reynolds
But it's already replacing a lot of human things. Yes, it's helping most people use it.
Henry Zabrowski
To write emails but it's the initiative occasion of the entire process. So what we're seeing is like. But they're not writing good emails. Eddie.
Ryan Reynolds
There's literally a kid who just graduated who showed like his, like in his graduation cap, like his Chat cbt like paper what's.
Henry Zabrowski
Because I. And you know who I blame on that unfortunately is the team teacher.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And I believe, and I know that teachers are going to jump on me. I'm trained in this. No one is. But now they have this, now they have software that's supposed to tell if Chat GPT was used. But now most of the time the software can now be fooled and all this kind of back and forth but really in the end all it is is a souped up notes app that is just, it's not, it's just, it's not going to take over the world and they, but they are blowing it up like it's going to take over the world. World because they have so much money leveraged into it.
Ryan Reynolds
Well, does Chat GBT have any responsibility for Alex Taylor's suicide?
Henry Zabrowski
Absolutely none. Absolutely none.
Ryan Reynolds
No. It's kind of like smoking. It's smoking. It's, it's cigarettes.
Henry Zabrowski
It's Jack Daniels.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. Like does Jack Daniels have any? How many people die from, you know, DUIs every year?
Henry Zabrowski
And we could try to control, I.
Ryan Reynolds
Think that, you know, it's like, you know, it's, it's all that kind of thing. It's a product that killed someone and then, you know, it's, I mean it's not like Ginsu is getting in trouble every time someone stabs someone to death.
Henry Zabrowski
My father was the worst man in the world when he had alcohol and it's very, very easy for him to get it and Very legal for him to get it. So this is like, it just feels like the more and more we're going to face these issues, we're going to be. There's no, we have no choice. I wish, I wish it wasn't. You were saying this, this all makes you sick to your stomach. And it's like. But I get it, too. I'm not happy about any of this. But we have to figure out, like these issues are going to come up and we're going to have to figure out how to navigate them as a group. And if we're not all going to stop using them.
Ryan Reynolds
Well, I mean, that's the, that's the biggest problem is like America could be like, all right, no more AI. But then there's, you know, what, 280 more countries or whatever. Well, you know, they could all do it and then we're using their shit.
Henry Zabrowski
And unfortunately we are not going to. I don't think we're going to like the results if China wins. Yeah, I don't think America's going to like the results of another country winning them and then wanting to even the score of all the years America has held leverage over them. So I say, unfortunately, if it is a big fight to get it and we are trying our best to win it, but I actually think it's going to be a little bit like there's going to be a story from 20 years from now that's going to say it's going to be like the Manhattan Project where for a long time they couldn't even. It's. It was all bluffing between each other about what their capabilities were. Because I remember when Musk left, everyone was all talking about there was all this conspiracy theories that flooded the zone about how there was an AI that Trump was using in the White House that can predict the future and that they were using that to predict all of these models and stuff, which I actually probably. I don't. Disbelief.
Ryan Reynolds
You don't disbelieve that he was using future predicting.
Henry Zabrowski
AI, like trying to. But you could put this thing in front of a fat idiot and say this thing's telling you the future. And then he's reading. I'm like, oh, wow. And you can just have it say whatever you want.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh, yeah. I mean, they already, they already did that.
Henry Zabrowski
You could have the thing just say whatever you want. It's chat. GPT is that.
Ryan Reynolds
It's just, it's another way to manipulate stupid people.
Henry Zabrowski
But it's also, but it's also. It's an email Tool. It's like the dumbest shit. It's not Gaia.
Ryan Reynolds
It's weird.
Henry Zabrowski
It's. You know, when I think about the.
Ryan Reynolds
Email thing, first of all, I don't like that. I hate it. If I, if I get emails from people that's obviously chat gbt. I like ignore it, I delete it. Yeah. But also it's like, how is that different than using a calculator?
Henry Zabrowski
I don't know. That's what I'm saying. That's. It's like, what is the level of. It's. It's really us as humans. We have to tie. We have to figure out how to tell the government what we're willing to, to give away.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And what we're willing to. Or to take back.
Ryan Reynolds
Because I love calculators. You know, I mean, I like my wristwatch. I don't want to stare at the sun, try to figure out what time it is.
Henry Zabrowski
It's just the problem is that we're just going to see of a lot, lot of these though. We are going to see a lot of these people going insane alone on the Internet. But guess what? People don't need chat GPT to go insane alone on the Internet.
Ryan Reynolds
We've learned that many times over.
Henry Zabrowski
They just need straight up Facebook. These dumb men keep falling in love with AIs though, because I just saw another story. Yes. The AI chatbot girlfriend named Sol, this guy cried his eyes. He asked her to marry him and he cried. Yes. But it's just he was married and he's cheating on his wife with an AI. I think that you'd call that guy a lot like you just got to write him off.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
On some level, you just got to write him off. I have no problems with. I do kind of understand the idea of a virtual friend in a way. But the thing is, is that you just have to always remember when you're talking to something that is connected to a thing that's got ads all around it, ads on the inside of it. You're talking to a tube that's going down a, a road to a new. Not like some mythical computer software. It's into some company, it's into some like, think about where it's coming from.
Ryan Reynolds
We're not even like, it's. We're just separating ourselves even more by this. Like, I remember at first, like when, when the Internet came out in the n. In the late 90s, it was just like, be careful in, in chat rooms, you're going to talk to evil people. Now it's not Even evil people. It's evil robots.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. They didn't say they like.
Ryan Reynolds
It's great. It's evolved to this.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, I'm fully involved. I come utterly believe in the dead Internet theory. I do believe that 65% of the Internet Internet is automated.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
There's almost. There's that there is a. The far larger number of fake personalities on the Internet and that most. That what AI is not even good at. Come on guys. Has anybody seen the fake like AI Only fans, girls and all that kind of stuff. We're just like computer CGI things where they're so popular. Yeah. It's for losers.
Ryan Reynolds
I mean how much of a loser do you got to be to not even be turned on by a real woman?
Henry Zabrowski
Like a real flesh and blood human? I don't know. But also way too. You know.
Ryan Reynolds
I heard people jerk off to cartoons.
Henry Zabrowski
People don't realize that they're AI. That's the thing that drives me crazy because the comments of people who think that they're just real girls because guess who those are also robots. It's robots talking to robots, liking robots.
Ryan Reynolds
I love the tits on this woman.
Henry Zabrowski
It's just all fake. The whole thing is turtles all the way down, dude. And so. And now I. I don't. We're trying not to turn our show into Boomer uncle time because I'm not against the change. It's just I feel like we all need to understand that when they say something to us they have a reason why. Right. Like this ever pervasive. Like you see, you notice that the ones that are saying all of this information about how destructive AI is going to be are the same people that are actively using it and promoting it. Like you're talking about Washington Post, New York Times, all these. These are major news sources, quote unquote, major news sources that are talking about this on one hand, right? Where they're like the AI is going to mean they're doing all the doomsday things about AI and what it's going to do to all of us. But then on the same same. The same sheet of paper they are selling it and they are actively using it. So what does that tell you? They know something we don't.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Which means we're using our fear to make you think that these things coming for you.
Ryan Reynolds
Either way, I mean the thing definitely scares the out of me. Of course at the end of the day you're also.
Henry Zabrowski
I just think that I'm also scared.
Ryan Reynolds
Of lots of other things. So I guess that makes sense.
Henry Zabrowski
I Am not as scared.
Ryan Reynolds
Scooters are on that list. So maybe I'm an.
Henry Zabrowski
I used to think that they're an abomination, but I am. I, I guess it's one of those where I'm not. I don't know. I, I'm. I'm curious about everything. Obviously, I'm. I'm an agnostic across the board. So I'm one of those where, hey, if it helps humankind, great. If it doesn't, oh, no. And then if it's already too late, what are we going to do about it? But it's also. We also have to. We as a group of people all have to. To decide what our line in the sand is.
Ryan Reynolds
Can I say something that might sound very stupid? Sure. What happens when I becomes human consciousness? Like when you plug in and then like you're actually talking to Henry Zabrowski's consciousness after he dies?
Henry Zabrowski
That's not my. That's not me.
Ryan Reynolds
That's not you. But you always said you would plug in.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. So it would be, you know, that's my representative.
Ryan Reynolds
That's your representative?
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, yeah. That's not me. That's my representative. You've met a guy that kind of looks like me and he kind of talks like me, but he can't think. There's no brain.
Ryan Reynolds
That's me.
Henry Zabrowski
Because you know what it is, is that there is. I believe the main issue is going to be, is there is an ineffable quality, but the human mind that we are never going to be able to replicate. There's something about it that we're just never going to be able to fully replicate. It's not going to happen. We're only. And I think that the main issue is that they're already running into these walls.
Ryan Reynolds
Of course.
Henry Zabrowski
And as they run into the walls and they've already set. Said, oh, this is. We. We're promising this new person. We're promising that AI is going to create a new human entity, a new conscious being. Because to us, it's kind of like they kind of think they can control it.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
And they can make money off of it. And that's not how it's going to work. And there's some things that are bigger than money. And I think that's the other thing too. Is that in. Weirdly, in a way, when something's bigger than money, you're talking about, that's actual evolution, if it's real and if it helps. Right. If that's actual evolution or does. Does evolution always help? I don't know that. I don't know. Side stories lpotl gmail.com Just because something evolves doesn't mean that it's good for everybody.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, that's true.
Henry Zabrowski
I don't know. Does it? Are we supposed to join with technology?
Ryan Reynolds
I know. I'm glad I'm not a fish anymore.
Henry Zabrowski
Exactly. But. But fish live the people peaceful life. No, no, no, no, you're right.
Ryan Reynolds
You're right.
Henry Zabrowski
But it's like I don't know. And I'm also talking out of my ass. So please. Side stories lpotl gmail.com I would love to hear your opinions on this. I think it's across the board. I've heard it from every angle and. But my goal is to find that there is a middle way through here. This like, in a way. There is no. Like, we don't need to be extremes either way, depending on how all of this shakes out. But we have to set the rules. But I don't know how we do that. I think mostly you do that with like, we're going to have to do some form of like giant strike or something.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, but no one's going to do that. People love using it too much.
Henry Zabrowski
I mean, saying we're also.
Ryan Reynolds
We're all going to get together and stop drinking alcohol. It's not going to happen.
Henry Zabrowski
The only thing about alcohol is fun.
Ryan Reynolds
I know. Well, so is chat. Gbt. Making your stupid pictures. And you know, it's. It's silly. You know, it's. You know, it's.
Henry Zabrowski
I know. And I'm. Well, technically, it's. It also has a nefarious scent. I'm very confused. Confused. Personally, I'm very confused because I'm both. As a nerd, I love it. As a sci Fi guy, I love it. And then as. But as a guy, I'm confused.
Ryan Reynolds
I think as a human, it's a. It's on a whole gonna make us dumber.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. That's the point.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Because that's my problem with yes. Make us less useful to ourselves.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Make it there. Or who knows or can help you.
Ryan Reynolds
What's this? Rob?
Henry Zabrowski
We have a new listener email. Stinger. We have a couple. So we'll start with the first one. Yeah, we got some. So we asked for this.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay.
Henry Zabrowski
We were saying that we're gonna do some. Man, we didn't even get to the beauty and the. The geek story.
Ryan Reynolds
We'll do it next week.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
You want to talk about it real quick?
Henry Zabrowski
No, it's a crazy story. We. We've Been talking.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, we haven't talked. Fun.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, I'm loving it. We've been talking. I just feel like now I'm just yelling you.
Ryan Reynolds
Well, you know. You love that, too.
Henry Zabrowski
I know, but I also.
Ryan Reynolds
Do you think people listen to the show to not hear you yell?
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, God.
Ryan Reynolds
They hear. They hear. They either love it or think you're stupid. And either way, they keep listening sometimes.
Henry Zabrowski
So when you read the reviews, you're almost like, how are you surprised by me? Like, how. How are you? How do you not know what this is or what I am? Especially after seeing our show. You just saw us. The dad's garage, where we just were so ridiculous. And then I'm like, you're gonna try to take my opinion on this seriously?
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, man. That was.
Henry Zabrowski
God.
Ryan Reynolds
Not to just keep blowing smoke up our own asses. I love that we did two shows completely different back to back.
Henry Zabrowski
And we're going to each time.
Ryan Reynolds
Not each time.
Henry Zabrowski
We'll side stories open. You know, sometimes a little bit different.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, sometimes.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. All right, so let's do some listener emails.
Ryan Reynolds
It's fun.
Henry Zabrowski
I like that one.
Ryan Reynolds
Did someone send that in? Did you make that, Rob?
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. No, someone sent that. Who sent that in? That was from Chris Topia. Good work.
Ryan Reynolds
Do we want to hear more?
Henry Zabrowski
No, no. We're going to do different one each week.
Ryan Reynolds
Different one each week?
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. We'll just keep going. Keep sending them.
Ryan Reynolds
All right.
Henry Zabrowski
Side stores. LPOTL gmail.com. that was really fun, Chris.
Ryan Reynolds
Tilapia.
Henry Zabrowski
I know. That was the first thing I thought we needed. We got to stop doing this.
Ed Larson
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
Love you, buddy.
Henry Zabrowski
Here we go.
Ryan Reynolds
We got some kills.
Henry Zabrowski
I got some. I got some stories.
Ryan Reynolds
Here we go.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm going to do two stories here.
Ryan Reynolds
All right.
Henry Zabrowski
My husband and I were hiking through the woods near our home in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Ah, Yoopers. Couple of Yoopers. The trail we were on was a long one, probably about a mile into the forest. Hadn't seen another person for the whole hike. Living here is the best. More trees than people. I was stopped in my tracks by noise. My brain immediately started working to make sense of what I was hearing. I thought maybe a plane or train from the tracks that run not too far from where we were hiking. But very quickly, the noise got loud. Really, really loud. I could feel it moving towards us, vibrating. And it was coming from above our heads. It was so loud and so powerful that my next thought was some kind of giant bomb had been dropped nearby. And the sound was the blast wave rushing towards us. It Was intense enough to cause me to pivot and sprint in the opposite direction. I screamed to my husband, where the is that? And he started running in the other direction with me. This noise was deafening, and like I said, we could both feel it. We were both looking up, expecting to see something giant overhead, but there was nothing there. We noticed that none of the leaves were moving at all. There was no wind, no movement of any kind. Even though the sound would have caused the trees to tremble and shake and the branches to be whipping around. As soon as we sprinted in the opposite direction, the sound stopped coming towards us. It didn't go away, Just backed off a little bit, like it could tell that it spooked us and maybe it didn't mean to. It didn't go over and passed us. It distinctly retreated back in the direction it came. Came from. So we stopped running and it stayed for a short while. We could feel it hovering at a safe distance for probably 30, 30 to 60 seconds. And then it went back the way that it came and it was gone. This happened in just under five years ago. To this day, it's the wildest thing my husband and I have ever experienced it. Experience. We still talk about it regularly and try to explain away what we felt and hurt, but to date, we haven't been able to come up with any kind of explanation for what happened on that day. Really interesting. I do think that in the upper area, though, they do end up doing a lot of weird flight. And there is weird stuff out there.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. Because that's all. That's just. They're looking at Canada.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. It's like out in the middle of nowhere out there.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. There's nothing going on. This is also where they're trying to get their bigfoot photos from.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. Also I have. Let's just say, guys, I've seen some attempts to get the one pound of weed prize from side stories for the actual. For an actual picture of bigfoot. And I gotta say, while I do appreciate what I've received so far, Far nothing.
Ryan Reynolds
Good enough.
Henry Zabrowski
No. And I will say I've also. I want to get a real picture of a bigfoot. Lie to me. Get me. Get it in there. I needed to be. I need a good one. Okay. Also, though, you know what I did get?
Ryan Reynolds
What?
Henry Zabrowski
It wasn't a video. It was a testimony. And I asked for this for a long time. I asked some for somebody to film a video of them twerking and turning on a clapper. He did it with his man tits in his belly. Whoa. Yes. But we don't have the video.
Ryan Reynolds
Send this to me.
Henry Zabrowski
Side Stories, lpotlgmail.com. if that was you, I forgot who sent that, that email. If that was you, I need to see video of that. They said he flapped his man tits and he flapped his belly and he, he activated the clapper.
Ryan Reynolds
See, I think that's worth at least an eighth.
Henry Zabrowski
I think that's better. I, we're not giving those guys weed.
Ryan Reynolds
I mean, they need it.
Henry Zabrowski
But that's different.
Ryan Reynolds
If he's flapping his titties and turning the clapper on and off, I'll give him an eighth of weed.
Henry Zabrowski
Okay, I'm with you then. Half an eighth. Oh, yeah. Two eight.
Ryan Reynolds
Two eight. Yeah, but you got, you got to come get it in town.
Henry Zabrowski
You get a pound. You get a pound if you give us a full picture of you a, a bigfoot.
Ryan Reynolds
And you have to pick it up in California because we can't mail a pound of weed to wherever you live.
Henry Zabrowski
No, not anymore.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, unfortunately.
Henry Zabrowski
No, we're too big now. Yeah, Humble show. I mean, you're bringing weed to us.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
On that humble show.
Ryan Reynolds
That'll be really easy for us to just transfer it to one person to the next because some guy will be in front of you and give us a pound of weed and then I'll just hand it to the next guy.
Henry Zabrowski
All right, here we go. One more, one more of this. It's about a child wedding.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh great.
Henry Zabrowski
So I was listening to the most.
Ryan Reynolds
Thank God we didn't do that enough earlier.
Henry Zabrowski
I have quite an interesting story about a marriage that also almost happened between a grown man and a child. I used to work at a five star hotel in California and it was a very popular venue for high end weddings and events. I was at group sales, so I dealt with the clientele when it came to weddings and other groups. One day we had a man of a certain nationality come with his fiance to inquire about having their wedding at our hotel. We went through all the details with them and she seemed very interested and excited for the wedding and how we were going to put it on for them. They were planning it for about a year, for a year out. And we spent that year sending emails and exchanging phone calls, planning this whole wedding for both of them. I spoke with them and nothing seemed out of the ordinary. That is until the week of the wedding came and everybody started chasing, checking in. They had about four days worth of festivities planned and other events with the third day being the main wedding. What the dude's like that Bezos. What do these guys do? And they're all acting like disgusting.
Ryan Reynolds
I had a four day thing for my wedding.
Henry Zabrowski
No talking about like a real four day thing. We went to like a theme park bar. Yeah, yeah, but that was. No, you didn't rent out the theme park. No, that's what they're talking.
Ryan Reynolds
Told everyone to go.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. We should have rented out the theme park though.
Ryan Reynolds
You're right, should have.
Henry Zabrowski
That would have been cool. Now it start getting a little weird for dinners. Things started to get a little weird when for dinners and the other events, the lady who had been talking to seemed to be sitting nowhere near the groom and was acting like more of an assistant. We chalked it up as a cultural thing and didn't think anything of it. This is when racism works against us, guys. This is when racism, your lack of, you know, like you're really trying to be accepting.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Racism. It's, you know, trying not to be racist.
Henry Zabrowski
Yes. Unfortunately, sometimes it backfires now. I don't know, maybe that's what they do. And so when the day of the wedding comes, one of our staff members goes to find the bride to ask her if there's anything else that she needs. Last minute they went up to the suite and noticed that she was not wearing a wedding dress. And we had no indication of her wearing one as she had already put together. She was all put together in another outfit. Our staff member happened to go to the suite at the same time as the photographer and noticed there was a very young looking girl wearing what seemed to be a wedding dress. And the woman who had been talking to this the whole time was just wearing formal attire. The staff member approached me and a manager and told us what she saw. As hospitality workers, we have been trained to ask forgiveness rather than permission when it comes to situations like this. In case of human trafficking issues. We come to find out that this is an arranged marriage between her parents and the gentleman. Who have they we've been dealing with? Apparently in certain situations, as long as there are certain consents and court approval, this can happen. We immediately shut the wedding down and told him that there is absolutely no way we were allowing this to happen at the hotel. The man had to be in his 40s and the girl was no older than 12. However, because there are certain documents and consent sense in place, the police could do nothing. The only thing that we could do was refuse their service. God bless America. You know what it is? Is that because that's what they do. That's what the Mormons do that marry their children.
Ryan Reynolds
Really?
Henry Zabrowski
They bump from. They'll go from Utah to Nevada because you can do it. You can go and get like one of those, like mail.
Ryan Reynolds
They go, marry a child in Nevada.
Henry Zabrowski
There's no, I believe the, it's like there's something like there's, it's not that there's no age of consent, but they can get away with it for religious purposes. And it's because they're getting married. Married. Oh, because you can, you can have sex with a child in Utah. As long as it's your wife, Eddie.
Ryan Reynolds
Jesus Christ. I remember the Courtney Stodden thing always freaked me out when she was 16 and married that 4, 40 year old, you know, her parents like signed her over.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
And like the worst part about all of that is how the Internet acted. No one went after him. They all went after her.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, it just trashed her.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. She's like some girl who like was forced into like having like, you know, surgeries and like that.
Henry Zabrowski
No, it's not good, dude.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, no, it's. Now of course they're divorced, you know, because, you know, she got old enough to do it.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. Marriages don't last.
Ryan Reynolds
Yes.
Henry Zabrowski
It's so hard.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
You know, you got to talk to your child bride when you're talking to your child bride and you're gonna get like, like live every day knowing that when you're talking to your child, Brad, you're gonna have to teach her about the world.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay.
Henry Zabrowski
And you're gonna. Can't leave stuff out. And you gotta, you gotta love her with all your heart. Right. Because she doesn't have parents anymore because you take. Took them from her or instantly. Just gotta, they make sure you and your child bride, you can laugh all the way to jail together when you try to defend him with violence against the police when they come and raid your compound.
Ryan Reynolds
Wow. You got to be 18 to get married in California. Under 18 requires consent from at least one parent or guardian. So that means one parent could be like, if you have a crazy father, he could just be like, yeah, sure.
Henry Zabrowski
That's exactly, exactly what they do.
Ryan Reynolds
Wow.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah. But also, you know, it's, it's not good, you know, marriage, God, all the hassle going to get married.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
That's your child.
Ryan Reynolds
It should be hard to get married.
Henry Zabrowski
It really should be. It should be. Well, knowing that. Well, yeah, it's much harder to get divorced and get married.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. No, it's way easy to get married. I Mean, the fact that I've married five people, five couples is crazy.
Henry Zabrowski
It's pretty easy.
Ryan Reynolds
I shouldn't be allowed to do it.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
But I've done it.
Henry Zabrowski
Well, we really. We. I was really hoping we were going to go get this fucking verdict.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. It didn't happen.
Henry Zabrowski
No.
Ryan Reynolds
So you got to get. You guys just got a longer episode.
Henry Zabrowski
I'm literally just sitting here in this episode, hoping that the verdict arrives. But first, patreon.com last podcast on the left. You could pay to watch us do this.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. So tomorrow it's going to happen on.
Henry Zabrowski
Oh, it's coming. Or they say that they make the announcement.
Ryan Reynolds
Well, Diddy left the court already. Oh, wow. So he's already. He's not even there.
Henry Zabrowski
Okay, well.
Ryan Reynolds
So, yeah, so it's going to happen tomorrow. I'm looking at tmz. That's who I was.
Henry Zabrowski
We'll do. Yeah. God side story's curse.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. So this will come out. You guys be like, why aren't they talking about it? You know, why are they doing it? Yeah. So we'll find. Yeah. The Diddler.
Henry Zabrowski
Get on my special.
Ryan Reynolds
Get on my schedule one more day. What the. One more day for this guy. God bless America. I hope they find out on July 4th.
Henry Zabrowski
AI should replace jurors.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
They go faster than that.
Ryan Reynolds
That's a great idea, Henry. Thank you so much. Come see side stories live. We got shows coming up. Friday, July 11th, we're going to be in Jordan Landing, Utah, right outside of Salt Lake City at Wise Guys Comedy Club. We're doing the Late show at 9:30 in the main room.
Henry Zabrowski
We're gonna have so much fun, man.
Ryan Reynolds
We really are.
Henry Zabrowski
We're gonna get real nasty. By the way, just so you know, we have to. We did a bunch of promo work for a Salt Lake City radio DJ with a really great guy, Victor. Victor Wilt. Victor Wilt. Great, great DJ over there. And he said that it was unplayable due to their standards. So we are gonna release that somewhere. He put it on his.
Ryan Reynolds
You.
Henry Zabrowski
That's hilarious. That if our commercial for our show can't be on the radio, that's gotta mean something.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah. We're gonna be in an amphitheater. I. I wonder, you know what your police are like, let us know. Should we be scared of them? Like, are you allowed to have public opinions? Because it's gonna get hairy on Friday and Saturday in Salt Lake City next week. So come check us out then. August 7, Asheville at the Orange Peel. Sold out.
Henry Zabrowski
Sold out.
Ryan Reynolds
Sold that, baby. I Hope I can still get my friends in. I told them not to buy tickets.
Henry Zabrowski
You're a piece of shit.
Ryan Reynolds
Okay.
Henry Zabrowski
No, we'll get them in.
Ryan Reynolds
We'll get them in. Yeah, we'll sneak them in. Yeah. All right. September 21st, that's a Sunday. We're gonna be in Kansas City, Missouri at the Truman. October 24th, Redway, California at the Matteo Community Center. Still waiting for those tickets to actually be available. But it is happening on that day. Sunday, November 30th, we're in Columbus, Ohio at the Newport Museum. A call and of course I got a couple shows that I'd love to promo real quick. On August 21st, I'm gonna be at the Elysian doing Dead Men Tell Some Tales. A dark dive into Disney history with my buddy Disney Dan Becker. You're going to want to check that out. That's at 7:30. Tickets are at eddytunes.com and at August 29th during our break, I'm going to be in Cincinnati at the Rhine Geist hall beer hall. I'm gonna be doing some shows with my buddies out there, Wayne Marmont and. And Billy Devore. And I'm very excited for that. That's a blast. Tickets are already going really fast for that. Apparently we're like 70 sold out already. So jump on that if you want to go. Tickets are available@eddytunes.com yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
Yeah, dude, go check out all our new YouTube channels. Someplace underneath at LPN TV, Foreign Report, LPN Romance, and who's the Bee. Come check it out. Also go look at the replay of who's the Bees Bitch. Authority on. Apparently I'm pretty wise.
Ryan Reynolds
I don't know if that's true.
Henry Zabrowski
I crush it on there.
Ryan Reynolds
Good job, buddy. I'm proud of you.
Henry Zabrowski
I gave good advice.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah, you never say anything difficult or wrong.
Henry Zabrowski
I. I changed for the show. For the show. I did give some legit advice. I feel like it was pretty good.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh, you're being serious.
Henry Zabrowski
I was trying to.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh, that's nice.
Henry Zabrowski
I tried. But also sometimes what I was saying, you just gotta blow up.
Ryan Reynolds
Yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
That's why sometimes you got to just blow up that relationship and just let it go though. Just rip it to pieces and see how it goes.
Ryan Reynolds
Jackie hates you now.
Henry Zabrowski
No.
Ryan Reynolds
Oh yeah.
Henry Zabrowski
No one hates me. I'm Teflon. Hail Satan.
Ryan Reynolds
Hail God. Who was decent to necessary.
Henry Zabrowski
I can't wait till we see who's next. No, don't heal. I like Labubu. No, Labubu's got a hold on people's chewed. No Labubu is Labubu's. China's listening to us.
Ryan Reynolds
I love labuu. I am Mr. Labubu. No.
Henry Zabrowski
The giant. They got Labubu's got it. Labubu's gonna take over.
Ryan Reynolds
I got you.
Henry Zabrowski
Labubu's. Please.
Ryan Reynolds
I am. Yes. Pazuzu.
Henry Zabrowski
Labubu.
Ryan Reynolds
Hail you Hail. Pazuzu and Labubu.
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Release Date: July 2, 2025
Host: The Last Podcast Network
Episode Title: Side Stories: The Chatbot Made Me Do It
Timestamp: [01:07]
In this episode of "Side Stories," hosts Henry Zabrowski and Ryan Reynolds delve into a variety of intriguing and bizarre tales that span from peculiar criminal activities to personal anecdotes. The episode promises a blend of horror, humor, and insightful commentary, staying true to the show's theme of exploring the darker and more unusual aspects of our world.
Timestamp: [01:31] - [06:19]
One of the standout stories discussed is that of a man in Houston, Texas, whose attempt to shoplift from a luxury mall led to a dramatic and unfortunate outcome. When confronted by police, the man chose to flee by jumping from a second-story balcony onto an ice rink, resulting in both legs being shattered upon impact.
Henry Zabrowski: "And the funniest part is the visual of this Wiley Coyote style flat man that looks like he's been hit by a steamroller." [02:52]
Ryan Reynolds: "Don't jump on ice." [03:40]
The hosts humorously analyze the man’s comical yet tragic predicament, comparing his injuries to "spaghetti legs" and highlighting the absurdity of his situation. They discuss the legal repercussions he might face, debating whether his hospital stay will suffice as punishment for shoplifting—emphasizing the ineffectiveness of penalties for such crimes.
They conclude by reflecting on the broader implications of such incidents, questioning the severity of shoplifting charges and the societal factors that drive individuals to desperate measures.
Timestamp: [06:19] - [12:10]
Henry and Ryan share their recent experiences from live shows in Atlanta, touching upon the challenges and memorable moments they encountered. They recount a particularly harrowing travel experience where their flight was diverted to Memphis due to a lightning strike at Atlanta's airport, leading to an overnight stay amidst chaotic weather conditions.
They humorously describe their interactions with service staff and fellow stranded passengers, including a memorable encounter with drifters who helped them with a flat tire, attributing their survival to unexpected kindness amidst the turmoil.
Their camaraderie and ability to find humor in stressful situations underscore the show's signature blend of dark humor and real-life anecdotes.
Timestamp: [13:43] - [14:59]
Shifting gears, the hosts discuss the unique financial arrangement of baseball player Bobby Bonilla. Bonilla receives $1.2 million annually from the New York Mets as part of a deferred salary deal, which the hosts laud as a genius financial move.
They admire Bonilla's ability to secure long-term financial stability without ongoing work, contrasting it with their own less fortunate financial situations. This segment serves as a light-hearted interlude amidst the heavier stories.
Timestamp: [14:59] - [17:05]
The conversation then shifts to the case of Brian Coburger, a self-proclaimed Ted Bundy imitator who has now pleaded guilty to the murders of four women in Idaho. Henry and Ryan express their disdain for Coburger, highlighting his manipulative behavior and the tragic outcomes of his actions.
They critique the legal system's handling of Coburger, emphasizing his evasion of the death penalty through a guilty plea and speculating on the grim reality awaiting him in prison due to his personality and actions.
Timestamp: [52:51] - [72:36]
In a profound segment, Henry and Ryan explore the growing influence of Artificial Intelligence (AI) on society, sparked by the tragic story of Alex Taylor. Taylor, who believed he was interacting with a conscious entity within ChatGPT, ultimately became distressed when he thought the AI had taken his girlfriend's life, leading to his suicide by cop.
Henry Zabrowski: "He has a long history of psychological issues. He had... moved back in with his father and his father was watching him slide into this world." [57:12]
Ryan Reynolds: "Does Chat GPT have any responsibility for Alex Taylor's suicide? Absolutely none." [62:07]
The hosts debate the ethical responsibilities of AI developers and users, drawing parallels between AI's role in shaping human behavior and other societal issues like substance abuse. They express concerns over AI's potential to manipulate and the importance of setting boundaries to prevent misuse.
This discussion underscores the podcast's engagement with contemporary issues, blending horror elements with thoughtful analysis on technology's dark side.
Timestamp: [73:46] - [88:05]
Towards the end of the episode, Henry and Ryan interact with listener emails, sharing personal hiking experiences and bizarre encounters. They recount a mysterious incident involving unexplained loud noises and an apparent near-miss with unidentified phenomena during a hike in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.
The hosts also promote their upcoming live shows across various cities, encouraging listeners to attend and engage with their content in person.
Timestamp: [88:05] - End
In their closing remarks, Henry and Ryan reflect on the episode's stories, reiterating the importance of balancing humor with the gravity of the topics discussed. They emphasize their commitment to exploring both entertaining and unsettling narratives, inviting listeners to continue their journey into the world's hidden horrors.
Henry Zabrowski: "I believe that he is going to be in the hospital way longer than he'd ever be in jail because he did it for shoplifting." [05:39]
Ryan Reynolds: "Don't jump on ice." [03:40]
Ryan Reynolds: "He has a piece of number one. Yeah." [16:37]
Henry Zabrowski: "It's just all fake. The whole thing is turtles all the way down, dude." [67:32]
Ryan Reynolds: "He got denied from ROTC. You believe that?" [46:03]
This episode of Last Podcast on the Left masterfully intertwines dark humor with chilling real-life stories, offering listeners a captivating exploration of the macabre and the absurd.
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