Friday Happy Hour #16

Summary

Laugh with Me — Friday Happy Hour #16 (July 19, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this installment of "Laugh with Me," host Jeremy Odem is joined by his brother (and frequent guest) Kyle Odom, plus a travel-calling Eric, for a laid-back Friday Happy Hour episode. The main focus is on Jeremy’s recent, much-talked-about interview with Joe Exotic (the notorious "Tiger King," calling in from prison). Jeremy and Kyle react to the call, get into the wild saga of Joe Exotic’s life and persona (both serious and ridiculous aspects), reminisce about their introduction to the Tiger King phenomenon, discuss social media, pop culture, the justice system, and the bizarre, enduring appeal of the Tiger King universe.

Later in the episode, Eric chimes in from a North Dakota bar with a colorful travel log, providing a break before the group returns for final thoughts on Joe Exotic, fame, and the world’s hunger for weird stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kicking off Friday Happy Hour (01:16)

• Jeremy welcomes listeners, sets a relaxed end-of-week tone, and highlights today’s focus: his recent call with Joe Exotic.
  • “Time to crack open that first Friday beer and unwind from the week that was.” — Jeremy Odem [01:18]

2. Joe Exotic: From Viral Sensation to Prison Reality

• Jeremy and Kyle analyze the surreal reality of talking to Joe Exotic, who claims “2,503 days of being wrongly imprisoned.”

  • "If you've been in prison for 2,500 days, you probably don't want to be reminded of just how long you've been in there." — Jeremy [03:21]

• They reflect on how Joe runs his Instagram remotely, his awareness (or lack thereof) of internet culture and his own mythos.

• The brothers remember their own introduction to Joe Exotic via the Netflix hit during the pandemic — noting most people had never heard of him before:

  • "I've never heard of this guy until Netflix." — Kyle [05:14]

3. Fame, Fortune, and Delusion (Dreams of Riches)

• Joe’s belief in his post-prison earning power is dissected:

  • "He says he's got three awesome movie deals right now on the table, but he needs to be out in order to make this deal work." — Jeremy [07:18]

• Kyle jokes about Joe’s financial ambitions:

  • "Homie, you have $5? Like, where are you getting this $5 million? What are we doing here?" — Kyle [06:29]

• Jeremy reiterates Tiger King's record-breaking popularity: "34 million people watched the Tiger King on Netflix in the first 10 days of release." [06:40]

4. Pardons, Politics, and Character Judgment

• The possibility of a Presidential pardon for Joe Exotic sparks both sarcasm and sober reflection.
  • "He thinks that he's innocent. Like, if you watch that thing, you know his feelings on Carole Baskin. He straight up is hiring folks to kill her." — Kyle [08:39]
  • "Yeah, I'm gonna get pardoned… proceeds to name off the worst folks in the world." — Kyle [08:55]
  • "You only get the President's ear for, what, seconds, probably... and then is Joe Exotic the name that comes up when you do have his ear?" — Jeremy [09:20]

5. Stand-Up in Jail and Music Behind Bars

• The oddity of entertainers performing in jail is discussed, referencing Seinfeld:
  • "The Seinfeld finale, when they end up in prison, and then the very last scene, Jerry's doing stand up... I'm just like, do entertainers do that? Like, is R. Kelly performing in prison?" — Jeremy [12:52]
• Joe’s creative process in prison is updated for the 2020s:
  • “Actually, I’m writing it and sending it off to my girls out there, and they just put it in the AI and it does the music and the vocals.” — as Joe reportedly explained [13:41]
  • Jeremy and Kyle joke about the future of AI-generated Tiger King music — "Oh my gosh, that's a scary thought." — Kyle [13:59]

6. The Tiger King Cast: Guilt by Association

• Comparing sentences for other Tiger King figures (Doc Annel, Carole Baskin) and speculating on possible future scandals.
  • "It does seem like the people around him that were in that documentary, Tiger King, they were all involved in something." — Jeremy [14:11]
  • "She definitely killed her husband. She's definitely a terrible person. ...When you're dealing with folks who own actual tigers, everything is sketch." — Kyle [14:56]

7. The Trouble With Tigers—and Parenting

• Jeremy shares a parenting moment when his child, Braden, gets curious after seeing Tiger King footage:
  • "Braden... he's like, holy cow, you could do that. Is that the guy you're going to talk to? Can we get tigers? And I'm like, we are not getting tigers.” — Jeremy [15:16]
  • The prison call’s automated interlude (“This call is from…”) becomes a humorous punctuation, which Jeremy debates leaving in for “reality.” [15:33]

8. Crime, Prison, and Self-Justification

• Discussion of Joe Exotic's numerous allegations, including the murder-for-hire plot and conflicting testimony.
  • "When you hire somebody to kill somebody, you're going to jail...and be like, well, that guy only got a year. What is going on here?" — Kyle [16:15]
• Questions on legal maneuvering and dubious hopes for release.

9. Joe Exotic’s Good Deeds, Spin, and Legacy

• Joe's emphasis on former charitable actions (fixing babies’ faces, feeding the hungry) is examined—much of it played up as hopeful PR.
  • "It's smart on his behalf...if that's the question...then instantly hit the goodwill things you did before." — Jeremy [21:24]
• Kyle, sarcastically: "It's really not fair that he's in there for 21 years because he's just fixing babies' faces." [17:37]

10. Unorthodox Love and Life in Prison

• Joe’s prison marriage, his husband's deportation to Mexico, and the post-prison plans, including possible relocation.
  • "You just, you don't know where it's gonna, when love's gonna hit you." — Jeremy [23:28]

11. The Tiger King’s Book and Prison Productivity

• Joe’s alleged 30-minutes-a-day book writing regimen:
  • "He wrote it while he was in prison and he used his 30 minutes of computer time a day in order to write the book." — Jeremy [24:30]

12. Hitting Up Carole Baskin for a Follow-Up

• The brothers muse about booking Carole Baskin as a future guest.
  • "Did you not hit up Carol Baskin's Instagram and just shoot a message and be like, hey, I got this podcast...?" — Kyle [25:14]

13. Reflections on Fame, Netflix, and the South

• What it must be like to have your entire life story viewed by tens of millions:
  • "Can you imagine 34 million people watching your show, your life, in, like, the first 10 days of a release about it? Like, that's insane." — Jeremy [25:54]
• On Tiger King’s legacy and the strange fame machinery:
  • "Everything they know about you is this..." — Jeremy [26:13]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Joe Exotic’s confidence:
  “He says he's got three awesome movie deals right now on the table, but he needs to be out in order to make this deal work.” — Jeremy [07:18]
• On Joe’s finances:
  “Homie, you have $5? Like, where are you getting this $5 million?” — Kyle [06:29]
• On prison entertainment:
  "I'm just like, do entertainers do that? Like, is R. Kelly performing... in prison?" — Jeremy [12:52]
• On Carol Baskin:
  "She definitely killed her husband. She's definitely a terrible person... everything is sketch." — Kyle [14:56]
• On the power of AI:
  "This dude's writing, like, three lines of words and he's calling that writing music nowadays. What is happening?" — Kyle [13:41]
• On the absurdity of fame:
  "Can you imagine 34 million people watching your show, your life, in like, the first 10 days of a release about it? Like, that's insane." — Jeremy [25:54]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro/Warmup — 01:16
• Debriefing the Joe Exotic Call — 03:04
• Tiger King’s Notoriety and Netflix Impact — 05:14
• Joe’s Money, Movie, and Pardons — 06:29 – 10:10
• Beetlejuice Joke and Prison Info Access — 10:16
• Joe’s Book and Music in Prison — 11:24 – 13:59
• Discussing Other Tiger King Players and Carole Baskin — 14:11
• Prison Parenting Humor — 15:08
• Justice, Sentencing, and the Law — 16:15 – 17:37
• Charity, Fixing Babies’ Faces — 18:03 – 22:19
• Life, Love, and Plans after Prison — 23:15
• Joe Exotic’s Book & 30 Minute Routine — 24:30
• Booking Carole Baskin/Podcast Dreaming — 25:14 – 26:39
• Fame, Netflix, and South Reflection — 26:59 – 30:01

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Eric's North Dakota Travel Log [31:30]

• Eric calls in from a Fargo, ND bar, humorously bemoaning losing $100 at charity blackjack and sharing his confusion about North Dakota’s unique bar-casino setup.

  • “Somebody's running that blackjack table, collecting the profits, and the bar is just selling you the drinks.” — Eric [31:52]
  • “Winning is so much better than losing.” — Eric [33:16]
  • On the futility of his luck: “I had that bimbo/himbo guy sitting all the way on the left. ...he's just raking it in. Meanwhile, yours truly...nothing.” [34:03]

• Jeremy riffs on how even losing could feel better if it went to charity—maybe even “fixing kids’ faces courtesy of Joe Exotic, the Tiger King.” [36:13]

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Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up [28:19 – 30:01]

• Kyle: Excited, a little frightened, but now “invested” in Joe Exotic’s story ("I freaking loved it...I kind of want to go rewatch the Tiger King.") [28:24]
• The group ponders the mechanics and impact of the documentary, the mythology around Joe Exotic, and the South's enduring flair for the eccentric.
  • "That's the South, baby. You know? That's the South." — Jeremy [30:01]

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Summary

This episode epitomizes the mix of irreverence and curiosity that defines "Laugh with Me": equal parts absurd pop culture critique, genuinely thoughtful moral questioning, and sibling banter. Jeremy and Kyle entertain wry skepticism about Joe Exotic while acknowledging the mesmerizing grip of his story. Through jokes and sharp asides—sprinkled with real questions about justice, fame, and identity—the conversation makes a larger point: sometimes, you just have to laugh at the madness of modern life.

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For more about Joe Exotic, visit: Joe Exotic Official Website
Will Jeremy score a Carole Baskin interview? Stay tuned!

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Transcript

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[Jeremy Odom]

Welcome back. It's a brand new episode. This is Laugh with Me, a podcast with Jeremy Odom. I'm your host, KO it is the Friday Happy Hour end of the week. Time to crack open that first Friday beer and unwind from the week that was. This week. We've got special guest. He's been on the show many at times. He's my brother, Kyle Odom. We're gonna call him in a second. So he's not, he's not live quite yet, but we're calling here a second. Here's what we're doing. We had the tiger king, Joe Exotic calling in live from prison earlier in the week. I know he's got some thoughts about it, so we're gonna talk about it and just kind of unwind from the week. So let's, let's give the fella a call right now. Let's see what's up.

[Kyle Odom]

Yo, yo. That was a good one.

[Jeremy Odom]

Thank you. I wish I could say I've been working on it, but I absolutely have not.

[Kyle Odom]

Well, that was pretty impressive.

[Jeremy Odom]

Thank you. I was just doing the intro for Friday Happy Hour, and I was just saying it's. It's Friday Happy Hour. We're unwinding it from the week that's been. And this week I had the Tiger King. Joe Exotic, calling in from prison.

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Odom]

And I know for a fact you've got some thoughts. I've got some thoughts.

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah. I thought would be Tiger King.

[Jeremy Odom]

I thought it would be fun to talk about it. If you're down.

[Kyle Odom]

Okay, let's do this. What you got first?

[Jeremy Odom]

First thing I. First thing, if you remember, like, because I know you've listened to the episode and I thought. And I just saw it, literally seconds before he called, I saw on his Instagram, it said, Day 2503 of being wrongly imprisoned. And I thought, okay, well, this is. It's on his Instagram. I. I don't think he's running the Instagram. Like, I don't. You know, I. And I. And he kind of made that clear because he had no idea what I was talking about. But it is. But it is his official Instagram. And I thought, well, what a way to kick off the conversation with. You've been in prison for 2,503 days. In hindsight, that sucks. Right? Like, why? If you're in. Me, if you've been in prison for 2,500 days, you probably don't want to be reminded of just how long you've been in there.

[Kyle Odom]

No. He's like, yeah. And it's been awful. Every single one of them. Thanks, Jeremy. Glad I called you.

[Jeremy Odom]

I know. I felt so bad. I instantly was like, that was a mistake. What a way to kick this off.

[Kyle Odom]

I got the vibes that he didn't even know what Instagram was. He's like, oh, is that what they put up there?

[Jeremy Odom]

Yep.

[Kyle Odom]

All right, well, I guess I've been in here. I don't know what to tell you.

[Jeremy Odom]

That's fair, because he was picked up in 2018, and who knows? I mean, I'm sure he didn't even have an Instagram then. So who. You know, he obviously was on top of some things online because he had an online TV show. You know, he did. He was on the Internet.

[Kyle Odom]

His choice. Hold on. His own thing.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah. All right, so remember.

[Kyle Odom]

No, I never heard of this guy until Netflix. Okay.

[Jeremy Odom]

I know. So. And. And me too. Like, I've. And much like, probably most of the people in the world had never heard of this guy until 2020 when the Netflix show came out. But it locally, you know, in his, like, in his world, he had his online show where he would read Carol Baskin's diary and. And update people on what he. They kind of documented a little bit of that.

[Kyle Odom]

Yep. Coming back now.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah. So he's. He wasn't unfamiliar with the Internet and he wasn't unfamiliar with like, memes and, and things in that, you know, sense. But he probably has no. I mean, he even said he has no clue how big he is, but he has no clue. The, like the world of social media today and just kind of how it wraps our. It's our world, you know?

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah, no idea. But here's the deal. So he made a big impact, right? That was a whole thing. Whole world's talking about it.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah.

[Kyle Odom]

But now it's gone. Right. But he's like, okay, listen to him. He's like, yeah, when I get out of here, I'm a buy one of them. Okay, let me back up. He's like, I got no money to sue these people. I got no money to do any of this.

[Jeremy Odom]

Right, right.

[Kyle Odom]

And they like, when I get out, I'm buying one of them trump five million dollar gold cards so I can move my husband to America. It's like, homie, you have $5? Like, where are you getting this $5 million? What are we doing here?

[Jeremy Odom]

So that goes back to like I was telling him, you know, it's like, dude, 34 million people watched the Tiger King on Netflix in the first 10 days of release. And they had a season two. How many documentaries do you know get a season two and a season three?

[Kyle Odom]

So there's a season three.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah, it's not really about him. It's about. It's about that guy Doc Annel that. That just got sentenced to a year in prison for animal trafficking. And he's in, you know, the first two seasons, but it's more about like his world, but still the brand itself. Oh, yeah. He hates all those people, but. But yeah, like, I think he's banking on, I get out of prison, I have incredible value to my name. Or at least he believes he does to the point that he can sell, you know, certain rights to. To stories or. He says he's got three awesome movie deals right now on the table, but he needs to be out in order to make this deal work.

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah, but he's not out. So he's been in there for how long do we say?

[Jeremy Odom]

So he's been in years? Yeah, more than that. He's been in since 2018. He's on a 21 year sentence.

[Kyle Odom]

How far back is 2500 days? Okay, so 2018. So you got a wild guy. 15 years. Like, what are you. Who's. This is wild. He's gonna. Yeah, we're gonna make a movie when I'm 80. I don't know, man. Well, plan is kind of whack.

[Jeremy Odom]

That's if you're basing it on. He's gonna serve as 21 years. Now, here's the thing. We've got the pardon situation on the table where he feels that he was wrongly accused, that there's a lot of evidence out there now where the witnesses are backtracking the things that they said in court or on the record, and that the President is going to give him a full pardon and he's going to be out.

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah. Well, first of all, that was one of my favorite parts of the thing. I feel like he. Here's the deal. He thinks that he's innocent. Like, if you watch that thing, you know his feelings on Carol Baskin. He straight up is hiring folks to kill her.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah.

[Kyle Odom]

Secondly, he's like. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna get pardoned proceeds to name off the worst folks in the world. And he's like, yeah, they're gonna get me out. Like, dude, you are. What is happening right now? What is happening?

[Jeremy Odom]

He. He does have the, like, the ear of the core people that you would think of when you. When you think maga, you know, do.

[Kyle Odom]

You think that's real, though? Do you think, like, people are actually, like, those people? Do you think they're like, we got to get the Tiger King out? That's just what this comes down to.

[Jeremy Odom]

Well, it's tough. Who knows? Who knows how, like, active they actually are in. You know, you only get the President's ear for, what, seconds, probably, if you do, you know. And then is Joe Exotic the name that comes up when you do have his ear? But they definitely get asked about it. Like, you can find press clippings of, you know, the press asking these very people about Joe Exotic, and they are certainly aware of what's going on, but that doesn't mean that they're actually actively, you know, working on behalf of the Tiger King to get him a pardon.

[Kyle Odom]

No. And are they asking that in the year of our Lord 2025?

[Jeremy Odom]

Right.

[Kyle Odom]

Maybe 2020. Maybe 2021. I don't know.

[Jeremy Odom]

Did you catch my Beetlejuice joke?

[Kyle Odom]

Okay. I was, like, lost on the. Like, I don't know anything about it. Okay, you were like. Like, she really likes Beetlejuice. And he was not. He's like, okay, I could probably do that.

[Jeremy Odom]

I did not think he would get the joke. So it wasn't necess. It wasn't for him. It was for the audience. But so Lauren Bobert, she, a couple of years ago, she was on a first date and she went to see Beetlejuice, the musical, and she may or may not have been caught doing something inappropriate to her first date while she was watching the show.

[Kyle Odom]

That's awesome. Yeah. That's amazing.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah. All right.

[Kyle Odom]

Now, knowing that and knowing he's just like, okay, that's hilarious.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah. So. Man, that's. Yeah. So that's. I never thought he would get it because, you know, he. He's probably. The amount of information he gets, I mean, it's very minimal, Right?

[Kyle Odom]

I would think so. I don't know. We got to do an investigative. How do they get. How much TV can they watch a day? How can they. How much can they read? What's going on in there?

[Jeremy Odom]

That's a good question. I mean, he wrote his book. He has a book. I didn't talk about the book on the pod, but he does have a book out.

[Kyle Odom]

And what do you do?

[Jeremy Odom]

I. Well, I just. I knew I had limited time, so that's the other thing. I didn't know how much time I was going to have with him. I just knew I had until they cut us off. So it ended up being 15 minutes. I didn't know I had 15 minutes. I thought I could have seven. I could have eight. Like, I didn't know. Right. I just knew it wasn't going to be a lot. So I had a list of questions. I wanted to get to as many as I could. I wanted to ask follow ups where appropriate. But I also knew I had limited time. So the music to me was more important to talk about than the book.

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah, you turn to the music. What's that all about?

[Jeremy Odom]

Have you. You. His music is a big part of the. Of the documentary Tiger King. Yeah. So I was just so interested of. Is he writing more music? Is this something he wants to do outside when he gets out? Is this something he performs inside for his. For. I almost said classmates. For his. In. For his inmates. Like, for me. For the prisoners. Like, is this something he's doing and he's entertaining the masses inside? I mean, it sounds like that is a hard no, but.

[Kyle Odom]

Oh, no.

[Jeremy Odom]

Oh, no. Yeah. I just. I was intrigued by it because I just imagine sometimes. All right, it goes back to Seinfeld and the finale. The. The Seinfeld finale, when they end up in prison. And then the vet. Like, the very last scene, Jerry's doing stand up, you know, for. Yeah, that's fair for the population. And I'm just like, do entertainers do that? Like, is R. Kelly performing? You Know, like in prison, and they're just like, far. I can't wait for this week's R. Kelly concert. You know, like, I don't know.

[Kyle Odom]

We just found out. That's a definite no. And did you. Did you hear his. His answer to that? You're like, you're on new music. And then he goes on this thing, and then when he comes back, he's like, actually, I'm writing it and sending it off to my girls out there, and they just put it in the AI and it does the music and the vocals. So, like, this dude's writing, like, three lines of words and he's calling that right in music nowadays. What is happening?

[Jeremy Odom]

I know AI just think of the kind of stuff he could get out there right now if he was out and he had AI to do a lot of that.

[Kyle Odom]

Oh, my gosh, that's a scary thought.

[Jeremy Odom]

Oh, he'd be. He'd be a monster. That's for sure.

[Kyle Odom]

I want some Carol Baskin songs. We gotta get that going. I'm ready. The world is ready.

[Jeremy Odom]

I think if I hit the how could you? Part, like, all right. So I asked him about Doc Annel, and he. He was very open about how that guy's getting what he deserves to an extent. He's only got one year. He's. He's. He's like, almost jealous of it, you know, he only got one year. Whereas Joe exotics in the for 21. But, like, it does seem like the people around him that were in that documentary, Tiger King, they were all involved in something.

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Odom]

And they're all starting to now. It's just all kind of catching up to him in one way or another. Man. I'm interested to know if Carole Baskin, who seems like the cleanest of the bunch, but there's all that rumor and innuendo that she killed her ex husband. So who knows?

[Kyle Odom]

She definitely killed her husband. She's definitely a terrible person. Here's the deal. When you're dealing with folks who own actual tigers, everything is sketch. No part of their life can be clean. Everything is all sketch.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah, that's. Oh, so funny story. So I had, you know, I'm doing research for the. For the interview. So I'm watching Tiger King, right? And Braden, he comes in, he sees that there's, like, these people that just have tigers, and he's like, holy cow, you could do that. Is that the guy you're going to talk to? Can we get tigers? And I'm like, we are not getting tigers. Like, this is not A thing. Did you not catch the part where he's calling from prison like, this is.

[Kyle Odom]

Not happening, Dude, I love. You're like, you guys are just having the interview. He's like, telling us stories, whatever. Like, this call is from. It's like my favorite. I love it.

[Jeremy Odom]

I debated. I'm like, do I take that out? Like, do I edit that out? Or is that kind of like, sets the tone for what is actually, like. Because there is a reality to this. Like, he's, you know, he's a reality TV personality of sorts.

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah, but.

[Jeremy Odom]

But there is reality to this. Whereas the. The consequences of his actions that we saw unfold, you know, in 2020 with the tiger King are why he is where he is right now.

[Kyle Odom]

Oh, yeah, no, that was great. That was great. And you gotta understand, when you hire somebody to kill somebody, you're going to jail. And not only are you going to jail, you're going to be in there and you're going to be somehow sad that somebody else got a lesser sentence. You're just going to completely ignore that you hired a human to kill a human and be like, well, that guy only got a year. What is going on here?

[Jeremy Odom]

Right? Yeah. And so. And one of the guys, it's. I forget his name, but he's in the documentary and he's one of the people that worked for Joe at the zoo. But it's that guy, you know, that they kind of chronicle like that. He, you know, allegedly paid to go down to Florida or wherever and try to kill Carol. Right. And one of his stances right now is that that guy allegedly lied, you know, in his. In his testimony or whatever. And that's some of the facts. But I was. When I was reading about the case, he also made pay. I don't know if he made payments or offer to make payments to somebody to go do this murder for hire to an undercover FBI, like, agent. So, yeah.

[Kyle Odom]

What.

[Jeremy Odom]

Even if this guy.

[Kyle Odom]

Pretty clear.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. So I don't know what more he has, and I don't know what kind of lawyer, like, team he's got, because that's not cheap, right? So I don't know.

[Kyle Odom]

Well, he has $5, so his lawyer team cannot be very good, although they could be doing the game where, like, they're actually great lawyers because they know at the end of this thing, hopefully they'll get paid. So you never know. You never know. But here's the deal. It's really not fair that he's in there for 21 years because he's just fixing babies faces. So he does, he's just fixing baby's faces. I don't know why they're broken, but he's fixing them.

[Jeremy Odom]

That's the part that a lot of people are forgetting, is that he did do a lot of good. And he, he did this way before any of the criminal things. He was fixing baby's faces, you know, helping families that couldn't afford that kind of medical procedures. And then he also fed the hungry quite often.

[Kyle Odom]

Quite often quite. He said, I'm Carol Baskin, cook her up, serve her on a platter.

[Jeremy Odom]

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[Kyle Odom]

He was just, what are you going to do out of prison? Fix more babies faces. Okay, all right, that's cool.

[Jeremy Odom]

It's smart on his behalf, though, to just, if that's the question, you know, what are you gonna do to get in prison and then instantly hit the, the goodwill things you did before? You know, like, that's, yeah, it's fair. That's 100.

[Kyle Odom]

Try to kill Carol Baskin.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah, I gotta get the job done.

[Kyle Odom]

Dude, that would have been awesome. That would have been a great answer, actually.

[Jeremy Odom]

He was, you know what? I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know. He's been in there a long time at this point. I didn't know if we were going to get a beaten down, you know, he's sick. You know, he's, he's in a special treatment facility for cancer right now. So I, I didn't know what we'd get or if we get a guy that was hopeful, energetic, and just kind of felt like the day is coming soon when, when he's gonna get released. I, I, I was happy. I got the opportunity to ask him if he's on the Epstein list. That was good. We got that out of the way.

[Kyle Odom]

That was hilarious. I don't even know who Epstein is.

[Jeremy Odom]

All he knows is that that name is in the news and it's not good for Trump. That's all he knew.

[Kyle Odom]

It is not good, sir.

[Jeremy Odom]

Oh, man. What a what, what a day, though. He's. Man, it sucked because, like, the call just abruptly ends, right?

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Odom]

And then I'm like, well, dang. I was enjoying talking to him. Like, I need more time. Like, where'd you go? Like, I just, I was left wanting more.

[Kyle Odom]

Well, in 15 years, you gotta set an alarm. Fifteen years from now, when he's out, you gotta be like, Joe, you're my guy. We talked. Let's talk for longer.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yup, do this. I did email him after and I was like, hey, man, you need to call in and you want to go back on laugh with me. You let me know you are back. Like that was that. I didn't get enough, you know?

[Kyle Odom]

Exactly, Exactly. I like when you're like, you know, we find out he's remarried or whatever, and it's like, that's incredible. You found love in prison. You're just like, yeah, it happens.

[Jeremy Odom]

You just, you don't know where it's gonna, when love's gonna hit you.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Kyle Odom]

Sir, we don't know what happens in there. I don't know.

[Jeremy Odom]

I, I missed it that his, his new husband was, was released from prison and then immediately deported. Like, I must have missed that whole thing. So then I, I go back after and I'm reading about it. Sure enough, it's. He's in Mexico and he's doing the work for Joe. He's trying to get Joe pardon and get the word out. And then in Joe, I've even seen he's willing. He, he's like, trump doesn't want bad people in America anymore. Great, I'll buy my own ticket. I'm heading to Mexico. Like, he's ready to go.

[Eric]

Yeah.

[Kyle Odom]

Pardon me. And I'm out.

[Jeremy Odom]

I'm out. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's, he's pretty honest about it. That's for sure.

[Eric]

He is.

[Kyle Odom]

He is. I liked it. I liked it. It makes me want to check out his book. He's an interesting guy.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah, like that one. Oh. So what I was saying about the book is he, he wrote it while he was in prison and he used his 30 minutes of computer time a day in order to write the book. So it was quite the process.

[Kyle Odom]

Oh, my God.

[Jeremy Odom]

But that's, at least, that's what, you know, he said. So he, he has. Yeah. So he's got a book out. I don't know anything about it other than he's got a book and he used his 30 minutes a day to write it. That's all I know.

[Kyle Odom]

That's. That's the info you gather about this book.

[Jeremy Odom]

All you know. That's all I know, but we should.

[Kyle Odom]

Learn more about it for when we have the follow up interview. In 15 years. Okay.

[Jeremy Odom]

In 15 years. Yes.

[Kyle Odom]

I like it. I like it.

[Jeremy Odom]

Oh, yeah.

[Kyle Odom]

Can you, I need to know, did you not hit up Carol Baskin's Instagram and just shoot a message and be like, hey, I got this podcast. If you would like to. Come on.

[Jeremy Odom]

You know what? That's a hell of an idea. That's a hell of an idea.

[Kyle Odom]

That's what I bring to the table here.

[Jeremy Odom]

I think. I think I should have. You know what? And you know what's great about Carol? She's gonna have more time.

[Kyle Odom]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeremy Odom]

And. Right. So, yeah. You know what? Great idea, Kyle? I am going to hit up Carol Baskin. And now that's. That's kind of my goal, is to care.

[Kyle Odom]

Look what we did here, you know, taking on the world.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yep.

[Kyle Odom]

One. One Netflix star at a time.

[Jeremy Odom]

That's right. Awesome. Can you imagine 34 million people watching your. Watching your show, your life, in, like, the first 10 days of a release about it? Like, that's insane.

[Kyle Odom]

That would be crazy. I wouldn't. I would crumble. I would curl into a ball and never come out of my house again.

[Jeremy Odom]

Like, how many hundreds of millions by now have seen this story? And everything they know about you is this. Yeah.

[Kyle Odom]

That's wild.

[Jeremy Odom]

It is.

[Kyle Odom]

Wow.

[Jeremy Odom]

It really is.

[Kyle Odom]

I can't even think like that. I can't even think that big. That's crazy. Gosh, we gotta get a Netflix show.

[Jeremy Odom]

We really do. What. What would we call it?

[Kyle Odom]

We'll figure it out.

[Jeremy Odom]

All right?

[Kyle Odom]

Just do dudes. Just two dudes. All right.

[Jeremy Odom]

All right.

[Kyle Odom]

What's that about? I don't know.

[Jeremy Odom]

Two dudes. All they do is talk about the tiger King. All right.

[Kyle Odom]

We'll come up with a better name of these shows. I didn't realize.

[Jeremy Odom]

Oh, yeah, yeah. It turns out they put a lot of work into TV shows. Like, they don't just come up with it on the fly during a podcast.

[Kyle Odom]

I thought it just kind of happened.

[Jeremy Odom]

I was.

[Kyle Odom]

I was wrong. Today's the day I learned, folks. I got smarter.

[Jeremy Odom]

Joe Exotic, official dot com, if you. Anyone listening wants to find out more information about him, or even to donate, because he's. He's using the money that he raises from the website to help with his own expenses inside, and then also to help with awareness to help get that. Pardon.

[Kyle Odom]

Cool. Can you get that book on there?

[Jeremy Odom]

I think you can.

[Kyle Odom]

Can you get an autographed book on there?

[Jeremy Odom]

Oh, I highly doubt it.

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah, you have to smuggle it in, sign it, smuggle it out.

[Jeremy Odom]

It's a whole process. If you know a guy. I don't know, maybe. Maybe we find a guy. I don't know. There's always that guy inside that could just get things.

[Kyle Odom]

This is true.

[Jeremy Odom]

Maybe there's a guy that can bring in books get them signed, get them out. You know, I got a.

[Kyle Odom]

We gotta find out about. We gotta figure out how to do this if he's not doing it.

[Jeremy Odom]

Just think how much money he can make if he could actually figure that out.

[Kyle Odom]

Because you're buying lawyers to sue everybody.

[Jeremy Odom]

Like, you're gonna buy the book, right? I'm probably gonna buy the book if that's the case.

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah.

[Jeremy Odom]

I gotta.

[Kyle Odom]

I gotta check it out. We're all in now.

[Jeremy Odom]

All right. Final thoughts on the Tiger King. Joe. Exotic on Laugh With Me.

[Kyle Odom]

I freaking loved it. I did not know what to expect. I think I told you I was very frightened when I first saw it load onto my phone. Yep, it was awesome. I kind of want to go re. Watch the Tiger King. Want to see how that goes down. Gotta see him get not pardoned. Gotta see him put in his time, get out, go to Mexico, buy some sort of weird gold card for money that he doesn't have, and then get back. I want to see how all that works out. I'm invested now. I'm invested.

[Jeremy Odom]

There you go. Joe's got a new fan in Kyle. All from his. His call in on Laugh With Me. I. I do.

[Kyle Odom]

Don't call me a faint. I don't know if they faint. It's like a curiosity.

[Jeremy Odom]

Not a fan. Yeah. All right, that's fair. I. You know, I didn't. I don't think I fully understood that the. The video coverage was from a. Mostly footage that he was having filmed that Netflix purchased or the producers purchased and then did the interviews and testimonials and things after he's in prison. I don't think I. When I watched it, I understood all that, and I don't think I grasped that even after. But then when he's talking about it, we'll shoot. I go back and watch, like, the first couple of episodes. I'm like, okay, this is like a whole different spin on it now, knowing that all these people are talking about him, knowing that he's in prison right now.

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah. Yeah. I never thought about that either until he said that. It's like, what?

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah.

[Kyle Odom]

So then you gotta think about who. Who did he put in charge of his estate? And that person obviously signed something to just release all this stuff.

[Jeremy Odom]

They sure did.

[Kyle Odom]

Oh, it's not good. It's. It's a big crazy.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah, it is.

[Eric]

Well.

[Jeremy Odom]

That'S. That's the South. That's the south, baby. You know? That's the South.

[Kyle Odom]

That's how we do it in the South. Eric knows about that.

[Jeremy Odom]

Eric yeah, he knows all about that. He's. He's as far north as you can get right now, though.

[Kyle Odom]

What?

[Jeremy Odom]

Yeah, he's like, vacationing in, like, North Dakota or something.

[Kyle Odom]

Oh, damn, that's. Yeah, that's tip of the tip of the earth there.

[Jeremy Odom]

Yep. So. All right, well, thanks for calling in and giving us your thoughts.

[Kyle Odom]

Yeah, thanks for calling. Get more. Get that Carol Baskin. Yeah, I'll do the recap. I'll do the recap. I'll answer the phone. It'll be great.

[Jeremy Odom]

Awesome. I'm. I'll work on it right now.

[Kyle Odom]

All right.

[Jeremy Odom]

All right.

[Kyle Odom]

See you, dude.

[Eric]

Later.

[Jeremy Odom]

Bye. Yup, that's. That's Kyle. And he's not a fan necessarily of Joe Exotic, but he is certainly very intrigued. Now, I did just brought up that Eric is on vacation, so Eric, you know, he's been on the show many a times, as often as just a couple of episodes ago. And he's. He's in, like, North Dakota or something like that. But anyway, Eric is called in. He left me a voice memo. I have not listened to it yet, so I have no idea what he's gonna say, but we're gonna listen to it right now and just see how vacation is going.

[Eric]

Hey, Jo, this is. This is audio log number one of my grand tour of really two states, but all the states. Tonight I'm in Fargo, North Dakota. And you might be asking, where is Fargo? What's way fucking north? Like, it's all the way north. And don't confuse it with the movie. The movie happened in Minnesota. There are no people getting wood chippered in Fargo. Spoiler alert for a movie that was 20 years ago. So tonight, I proceeded to go to a bar where I played blackjack. Now, you might be asking yourself, hey, how does one go to a bar and play blackjack? Well, in North Dakota, you can play blackjack at a bar. The bar just can't run the blackjack table. The blackjack table is run by a charity, whether it's Boys and Girls Club of America or it's, you know, the Salvation Army. Somebody's running that blackjack table, collecting the profits, and the bar is just selling you the drinks. So in some ways, in retrospect, when I look back at tonight's actions, I'm very charitable because I proceeded to set down a hundred dollars on their fine blackjack table, and I proceeded to leave with none of that money. Which. It's. It's a. It's a bad. It's a bad omen for a couple of. For A couple of reasons. Number one, you never want to start a vacation. I mean, this is going to be the first of perhaps 12 travelogs that I'm going to be sharing with you, and I do not want to start with a loss. Number two, how can I have any confidence gambling after this point if I haven't won? Because, you know, as much as we talk about the strategy of gambling, winning is so much better than losing. And especially when you're at these tables where perhaps you have lost. You know, what.

[Kyle Odom]

What.

[Eric]

What fountain of luck is the, the just you. You have that one gambler that there, that's just. They're too drunk to play or they're too dumb to play, and they just happen to always get that Ace 9 or that, you know, not even the perfect blackjack. They just happened to, like, just luck into it. So at the table tonight, I had that. I had that, that, that bimbo himbo guy sitting all the way on the left. He's playing two hands at a time. He's not paying attention at all. He's constantly having to be reprimanded by the dealer to just pay attention, just to wave his hand over his pair of face guards. Yet this guy is just raking it in. Meanwhile, yours truly, playing by the book, probably, maybe, but playing, you know, very straightforward. Nothing. Can't. Can't catch a card to save my life. Oh, no drinking, you know, Budweiser after Budweiser, trying to rejuvenate that luck and nothing. But it's for a good cause. So, you know, perhaps there is something to that question weighs heavy on my mind, though. Am I going to be able to get up tomorrow morning to spend the day with my family and then go to a casino, AKA a bar in North Dakota and do it again? Chances seem pretty likely. I'll let you know how it goes.

[Jeremy Odom]

So there you go. Eric's first travel walk on vacation, and he's losing his ass at the blackjack table at bars. Which is an interesting situation that you can just walk into a bar in North Dakota and be able to grab a seat at the table and have them sponsored by, you know, local organization. It's kind of like, so, like here In Omaha over 4th of July, you had fireworks. Tents everywhere. You know, everybody's selling fireworks. You had to pick which one you want to go to, not based on the deals that they're offering. You know, buy 8, 18 or buy 1, get 18 free or whatever it is. No, this was like, go to this tent because it supports the local library or go to this tent and it supports the, the little league team that plays down the street. Like, it's just stuff like that. It'd be crazy if you walked up to a bar in North Dakota and you walk up to the one of the tables and it's like, hey, all winnings are all losses in your case, Eric. Or go towards fixing kids faces courtesy of Joe Exotic, the Tiger King. Like, don't you think that would be cool that you knew even if you lost, even if everything that the house won that night went back to fixing kids faces? That'd be pretty neat. That'd be pretty neat. All right, well, thanks, Kyle. Thanks, Eric. And thank you, Joe Exotic, for calling in earlier in the week. This is the Friday happy hour. Enjoy your weekend.

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