Grant Pearson (2:49)

Can you hear anything in the background? By the way? Des is playing a video game behind

Jeremy Oto (2:52)

me a little bit. It won't. It won't pick up. It won't. It not enough or it's anything.

Grant Pearson (2:58)

I can tell him to turn it down. I can tell him to get him get his butt upstairs.

Jeremy Oto (3:01)

That guy's busy. You know how he rolls.

Grant Pearson (3:04)

I'll be like, you're on the screen too much, kid. Yeah, he's.

Jeremy Oto (3:08)

You're a screen. He's. I heard that. Welcome back. It's a brand new episode. This is laughingly a podcast. Jeremy Oto. I'm your host. Hjo and we are welcoming back our movie expert. Fresh off of a huge night in Hollywood, the Academy Awards. Grant Pearson is returning. We're going to review the winners, the losers and the show itself self, which is always fun. A lot of you guys did listen to our third annual Oscar preview episode. Thank you so, so much for listening and enjoy the show.

Grant Pearson (4:14)

I was born ready.

Jeremy Oto (4:16)

You were born. This is what. This is literally what you do. So the. The. The Oscars last night B is the big this is big recap episode and I put big in air quotes. That's probably appropriate, right?

Grant Pearson (4:33)

Yeah, I think that works. Yeah, it was. It was definitely a. An award show with awards handed out. Those were things that happens.

Jeremy Oto (4:43)

They did do that. That's. That. That was a weird to me, it felt like a weird. It was very glitchy. It was very like the presentation and the show itself. It was od.

Grant Pearson (4:56)

Conan was literally a time where Conan was standing there like talking to people in the audience, not realizing he was live on the air.

Jeremy Oto (5:05)

You should, so you should. It would have been actually funny probably to see some of the people in the odd like he like in their homes watching because I was going, you're live. You're live. You're live, you're live. Don't say anything stupid like Conan, I'm a fan of yours. I don't need you going down for this. Yeah.

Grant Pearson (5:23)

Don't need Conan to just casually throw out the N word or something and be like, what Oscars?

Jeremy Oto (5:31)

Yeah, I was concerned, but that happens. They come back. No one tells the host or they come back too soon or whatever that we've seen that before. But man, it felt like he was out there just dying.

Grant Pearson (5:48)

Yeah, well, I mean, Conan is like, known for just jokes that don't land as well. I mean, he, he loves jokes for himself and for writers and stuff like that. So he has jokes that don't land that, you know, that he planned for them to not land, but he had jokes that really didn't land.

Jeremy Oto (6:05)

Yes, he did.

Grant Pearson (6:07)

He, he was struggling at times. I think the best things from Conan were the opening. Yeah. The whole and Gladys thing was fantastic. And then the Casablanca bit with Sterling K. Brown.

Jeremy Oto (6:25)

That was really good. He and Sterling. Sterling doesn't get enough credit for how funny he is.

Grant Pearson (6:32)

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I mean, he was, he was an episode of Brooklyn Nine. Nine once.

Jeremy Oto (6:36)

Oh, is he really? I. I guess I don't. I didn't know he, you know, popped in on comedy in that regard before. He's just such a serious, like such a great actor.

Grant Pearson (6:48)

Yeah, absolutely. So. But yeah, the show overall, I would call it messy. That's probably a kind way to put it. Having watched numerous Oscar telecasts, this was definitely one that seemed to be glitchy. I do like the fact that when the people from Bridesmaids were up there presenting sound awards that their sound kept counting, cutting out. You know, it's just like, oh, this is a perfect time to showcase how great sound is when you can't hear two of the five people that are talking.

Jeremy Oto (7:22)

That was, that was just the Oscar gods really playing a prank on that one.

Grant Pearson (7:27)

Yeah.

Jeremy Oto (7:29)

For a show and an award show that never gives credit where it's due to comedy, that was perfection.

Grant Pearson (7:36)

Yeah. Basically it seemed like they were already on YouTube. That's what it comes down to. Like they were, they were just practicing for what it's going to be like to have a YouTube production budget. And yeah, this is where they ended up.

Jeremy Oto (7:51)

So the YouTube bit that Conan did where the ads kept cutting in, it was Jane lynch doing the, the flashlight. You know, the tactical flashlight gag. That was. That was funny. I did enjoy that.

Grant Pearson (8:03)

That was good. That was good. I'll give that one. Whenever he had somebody to work off of, I guess is probably the best way is he did really good when he had somebody or something to work, but his own bits were just not. Not up to Conan standard, I suppose.

Jeremy Oto (8:19)

So Conan, the opening. You talked about the opening. He's known for this when he hosts award shows. He's done many. The Big Open is something he is a master of.

Grant Pearson (8:31)

Yes.

Jeremy Oto (8:32)

So always good. Always good to see him land that one. But yeah, throughout the night there was Some miscues. About halfway through, I was like, this one is not going to win the Emmy. No.

Grant Pearson (8:44)

I had that same thought. How much of a dork are we that we've immediately thought about them not winning an Emmy for the Oscars?

Jeremy Oto (8:52)

I always, I always think about that stuff when I'm watching, like, live tv. Like, all right, well, this one's got a shot. Like even super bowl halftime. I'm like, all right, from beginning to end. What's it look like? How's it shot? Does it have a shot at the Emmy?

Grant Pearson (9:07)

No, this one does not have, have anything. The, the only way that it wins an Emmy is if he really is Aunt Gladys and snaps a stick and Emmy voters vote for him. So I think that's the only way that this whole thing goes down, you know.

Jeremy Oto (9:23)

And he ended the show with the post show recorded bit.

Grant Pearson (9:29)

Yeah, he had a, he had a. He had a credit scene.

Jeremy Oto (9:31)

Yeah. Which was incredible. I very much enjoyed that. I also, I wondered did. Was there like a alternate version recorded if Sinners had won, you know, Best Picture or Marty Supreme? You know, if, if something else had won Best Picture, Was there a different end cut scene? But I highly doubt that.

Grant Pearson (9:51)

I doubt it too. But that would have been cool to see these, like, leak out after the, the awards show, you know, sinners cut scene and I guess a Marty supreme, even though that had no chance of winning.

Jeremy Oto (10:04)

Yeah, Mark, that's. It was. It's kind of sad because that's a movie I very much enjoyed of like the big movies and they're up for everything, you know, and they just kept coming up short. But it makes sense. As you want. Should we get into some of the winners and losers here then?

Grant Pearson (10:21)

Yeah, let's talk about the winners.

Jeremy Oto (10:24)

Center was a monster on this night. Michael B. Jordan. How cool is that? Friday Night Lights getting its due.

Grant Pearson (10:31)

Yes. Yes. Jesse Blemons once again should have been nominated, and he wasn't. But he was there to cheer on his Friday Night Lights costar as he won, which when I was first on doing this before the Oscars, I don't think I even like, mentioned Michael B. Jordan as being a possibility.

Jeremy Oto (10:53)

Correct.

Grant Pearson (10:54)

So I completely dropped that one. But when I did my ballot last night, I did put down Michael B. Jordan as the winner because everything just seemed to shift that way. Timothy Chalamet shot himself in the leg. Leonardo DiCaprio just seemed to not be getting any awards. So I'm like, this is, this is time for Michael B. Jordan to get awarded for all of his good work, man.

Jeremy Oto (11:17)

A lot of people. And you brought up Timothy Chalamet shooting himself in the foot there. He had the big controversy where he. And I don't even know if it's. It became a controversial comment that plays and. And musicals and kind of that world isn't thriving. I mean, there's no surprise there. Right,

Grant Pearson (11:41)

I'm sorry, what was that?

Jeremy Oto (11:42)

Like plays and musicals, Timothy Chalamet's comments? I mean, there's no surprise there, right, that, that, you know, the basis of what he was trying to say.

Grant Pearson (11:51)

No, no. I mean, I think I get what Timothy Chalamet was going for, and it just didn't work. Right.

Jeremy Oto (11:59)

Yeah, but.

Grant Pearson (12:01)

But nothing against ballet and opera. I love ballet and opera. I'm a cultured person who goes to those things all the time. You know, except for that. I don't.

Jeremy Oto (12:11)

What do you wear when you do. What do you wear when you go to live theater?

Grant Pearson (12:16)

When I go to live theater, I probably wear like a polo and some khakis.

Jeremy Oto (12:20)

Okay, that sounds art. What do you wear when you don't go to one of those things?

Grant Pearson (12:24)

Usually wear like a polo and some khakis.

Jeremy Oto (12:27)

Okay, Yep, that's fair. So Timothy Chalamet, is he lining up to have kind of the mirroring career of one Leonardo DiCaprio?

Grant Pearson (12:36)

I think so. I think he's going to be going at it for a while, get kind of nominations or even overlooked for nominations, and then eventually finally win, you know, after however long it'll be. He's a good actor. He deserves to win at some point for something. It just, it. It really should have been Marty Supreme. I mean, it really should have been his, his night last night to do that. I don't know what the next one will be for him that will get him a nomination, you know, but yeah, he. He really should have got it last night. Nothing against Michael B. Jordan, but it was. It was really Timothy Chalamet's to lose and he lost it.

Jeremy Oto (13:17)

How funny would be if it's actually Dune 3 that wins it for him.

Grant Pearson (13:24)

Get a Return of the king situation where Doom 3 just sweeps through everything.

Jeremy Oto (13:28)

Wouldn't that be something Leonardo DiCaprio wasn't getting? He wasn't picking up awards. You know, he's picking up nominations left and right. Wasn't picking up wins along the way. Certainly didn't win this one, but he had a big moment in the show. We've got a brand new Leo meme, so that was fun.

Grant Pearson (13:47)

Yeah, that's always good. You need more Leo Memes, but Michael

Jeremy Oto (13:51)

B. Jordan, I Also picked him for the winner in our. In our. In our bracket pool. So that. That was cool.

Grant Pearson (13:57)

Yeah, One battle after another, though. We got to go on to one battle after another. That was the big winner. 6. Six different awards that picked up.

Jeremy Oto (14:06)

Yeah, just an absolute beast. And there's not only they pick up those six, they arguably could have had even more if there wasn't such a center swing, because, I don't know, you go down, you look at Leo, and in post the awards, you go, well, I mean, Leo was kind of. Kind of chipped there. He had a heck of a performance. And then Best Supporting Actor, Benicio Del Toro could have won this thing, but the. Sean Penn did, so the movie did. Picked up an award. I mean, it was just incredible, this movie.

Grant Pearson (14:38)

Yeah, it's. It's. It's. I mean, it's a really good movie. I'm not sad that it won the awards that did. But, yeah, it could have had even more had it not been for some of those technical categories that somehow just kind of go around to different places where Frankenstein ends up picking up three awards, you know, and. And F.1 gets sound, and all kinds of different things end up happening in those. In those not lesser categories, but lesser categories.

Jeremy Oto (15:07)

So does Avatar picking up their one award in their one category of nomination kind of fall into your Suicide Squad theory?

Grant Pearson (15:19)

Avatar I picked to win that category because it won it the last two times it was nominated, so I assumed it was just gonna win it again because, you know, you got to make people blue. And the only other movie to make people blue was Sentimental Value.

Jeremy Oto (15:34)

That's great.

Grant Pearson (15:36)

That's a joke about people being sad.

Jeremy Oto (15:38)

Yeah, that was. That was pretty funny. Okay, so Sean Penn picks up Best supporting Actor and then doesn' go to the award show instead. He was hanging out with the leaders.

Grant Pearson (15:51)

Yeah, he's in Ukraine doing Sean Penn things, which I guess good for him. Yeah, that was. That was odd to find out where he was at afterwards. It's like, oh, of all places. I suppose I would not have guessed that. I assumed he was just at home not wanting to be at the Oscars because he's Sean Penn instead. Yeah, he's out.

Jeremy Oto (16:17)

So he took shots from the crowd for not showing up. Do you think he lost some points with the Academy for just no showing?

Grant Pearson (16:28)

No, I think that he will continue to do whatever he does, you know, however much he has left in him to want to be. I mean, because he hasn't been in tons of movies recently.

Jeremy Oto (16:40)

True.

Grant Pearson (16:41)

He hasn't been, you know, constantly putting out product. I think he's putting out, you know, at this point, things that he wants to do, you know, things that he fully believes in. Is, I think, where he's at at this point in his career. And however many movies that is left, we'll have to see.

Jeremy Oto (17:02)

I mean, when you're busy, you know, changing the world, it's hard to fit in work.

Grant Pearson (17:08)

Now, the big winner for the night for me was one of the movies that was guaranteed to win the two categories that it was in, and that is K Pop Demon Hunters.

Jeremy Oto (17:21)

Oh, yes. Huge, huge. I mean, overwhelmingly the favorite. Right. I mean, who else? Who. Who would pick anything other than K Pop Demon Hunter?

Grant Pearson (17:33)

We'll talk about that in a little bit. Mr. Zootopia, too. But I mean, K Pop demon hunters won two awards, which is more than Begonia, F1, Hamnet, Marty supreme, the Secret Agent, Sentimental Value, and Train Dreams. Jeez, all those are nominated for Best Picture, and it won more than all of those movies.

Jeremy Oto (17:56)

If there wasn't an argument for K Pop Demon Hunters to be up for Best Picture, there certainly was after.

Grant Pearson (18:04)

Yeah. I mean, the people went nuts during the performance of Golden. They had lights, whatever reason. And I. My favorite thing is just imagine Leonardo DiCaprio sitting there with one of those lights being like, what the hell am I doing with this?

Jeremy Oto (18:22)

He. He seemed like the uncle that was forced to go to the big event. You know, he's at the wedding. He's there. He's not. He don't want to be there, but he's. He's gonna put on his best face and smile, but he's. He's there.

Grant Pearson (18:38)

Yes. Like, if Sean Penn was there, do you imagine he would be waving a light to K Pop Demon Hunters?

Jeremy Oto (18:44)

Oh, no, he'd be at the bar.

Grant Pearson (18:46)

He would be at the bar. He would excuse himself and go to the bar. There would have been a Michael B. Jordan seat filler.

Jeremy Oto (18:53)

Yes.

Grant Pearson (18:54)

In his spot.

Jeremy Oto (18:55)

So K Pop Demon Hunters Weapons got an award for best supporting Actress. That was awesome to see horror, you know, pick up an Oscar. Yeah.

Grant Pearson (19:07)

I mean, you had Frankenstein win three, you had Sinners win four. You have weapons. Get one. I mean, there. There is a lot of representation from that side of. I mean, Frankenstein is horrish, but it still falls into it enough for me to be happy that eight awards went to something horror related. You know, horror is, you know, it gets. It gets a bad rap from the Academy a lot of the times. You know, I've mentioned it before. Toni Collette for Heredit should have been nominated, probably should have won but did not make it into there. And so seeing Amy Madigan win for winners or for weapons is, it was, was fun to see.

Jeremy Oto (19:51)

So do you think this opens the door for it, next year's ceremony for Terrifier 4 to make its move into the awards season?

Grant Pearson (20:00)

You know, you bring up a good, good question. I think it's no, not at all. In any way, shape OR form Will Terrifier 4 be nominated? But there's always a chance.

Jeremy Oto (20:13)

There is always a chance. You're right.

Grant Pearson (20:15)

You never know what's going to happen. There can suddenly be this influx of, you know, 17 year old Academy voters who really want Terrifier 4 to be best picture.

Jeremy Oto (20:28)

Bad timing for huge winner last night, Ryan Coogler of Sinners. As normally you can right off into the sunset after a monster win like this and do some, do some big projects for some big paydays. He's gonna go do X Files, the TV show.

Grant Pearson (20:45)

Go do X Files. And I am very excited about that

Jeremy Oto (20:48)

and I'm sure it's gonna be good. But career wise, was is this that next Oscar move? Like is. Do you think this is it?

Grant Pearson (20:57)

There's, there's a history of a lot of people having questionable choices after they win an Oscar. I mean, Halle Berry's next movie was Catwoman. I think Charlize Theron's next movie was like a. On Flux or something like that. It's just like there's people that have questionable projects afterwards and it's like, I love the X Files. People are probably gonna love the X Files, you know. But is it something that really follows up? Yeah, an Academy Award win for best director is going to tv. Then it's like no where, you know, would it be Black Panther 3? I don't know if that's the greatest follow up either. I don't know what he does next to solidify on that. But regardless, I know it' going to be quality work. So I'm excited to see what he does with the X Files.

Jeremy Oto (21:43)

Yeah, dude, super talented. It does, it does kind of feel very Cuba Gooding Jr. Esque into his next move.

Grant Pearson (21:52)

I don't, I don't think we wish that upon anyone.

Jeremy Oto (21:55)

Yeah, good call. What do you think of some of like the speeches? I, I didn't think anything really stood out.

Grant Pearson (22:02)

No, nobody had a speech that really hit me. I, I mean Amy Madigan was, was fun to see up there when she was laughing and everything, but everybody had pretty normal speeches. A lot of speeches got cut off when it was multiple people There was a lot of cutting off going on.

Jeremy Oto (22:22)

That was probably the most memorable part. And in fact, at one point they. They cut the. They took the mic down into the floor. I mean, it was just. Yeah, what are we doing here?

Grant Pearson (22:31)

And Conan is over there standing like, what?

Jeremy Oto (22:34)

Just laughing. They even cut to him during that and he's just laughing. It's like, what are we doing here?

Grant Pearson (22:43)

Yeah, it's like. And they ended it. It was a two and a half hour show or three and a half hour show. When did it start?

Jeremy Oto (22:49)

Start at six.

Grant Pearson (22:51)

Okay. It's a three and a half hour show. Usually it goes a little bit longer than that even. But you know, it's. It. They weren't hurting for time necessarily. They could have let people speak for an extra 30 seconds.

Jeremy Oto (23:05)

Yeah, it did. It ended before 10 o' clock central. The show did well before. So it did feel like they had some time to play with.

Grant Pearson (23:13)

Yeah, they definitely did. But they had to get to that bachelor stuff.

Jeremy Oto (23:17)

Yeah, they did. Was there any other category or winners or losers that were noteworthy that we missed?

Grant Pearson (23:28)

I think that. I think that we hit upon most of them. I mean, Best Actress for Jessie Buckley. That one I said when we were first went through this whole thing. And I still absolutely believe that that is the right choice. She was phenomenal in Hamnet and I highly recommend anybody watch that. And then at the end, not cry. It is a. It is a serious movie at the end. Oh, yeah. And then, you know, let's see, what else did we hit upon? Best Supporting Actor. We talked about Best Director went to Paul Thomas Anderson.

Jeremy Oto (24:09)

I mean, I guess they did win with K Pop Demon Hunter, but Netflix didn't have a big night.

Grant Pearson (24:15)

Well, Netflix had the Frankenstein.

Jeremy Oto (24:17)

Oh, they did. You're. Good call. Good call.

Grant Pearson (24:19)

Yeah.

Jeremy Oto (24:20)

So I guess they had an okay night. All right. I totally ignored that. I'm like, well, Netflix doesn't do anything other than K Pop, but you're right, they did have that.

Grant Pearson (24:31)

Yeah. So which Frankenstein won more than, you know, if we want to go through the, the. The. All the other best pictures.

Jeremy Oto (24:39)

Oh, and they had a best documentary short for all Empty Rooms. That wasn't Netflix. That was a Netflix jam as well.

Grant Pearson (24:46)

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm a little sad that Begonia didn't walk away with anything. I'm very sad that Marty supreme didn't walk away with anything. I think both of those deserve to win something. I don't know what, but. Yeah, the fact that both of them lost everything that they were in just kind of bummed me out on that part of it, but it's. I don't know what I would have traded.

Jeremy Oto (25:10)

You certainly wouldn't have traded F1. F1 was deserving of more awards than just best sound.

Grant Pearson (25:18)

I. I do enjoy F1. I think F1 was. Was very good. I recommended it to all kinds of people to go see it. But as far as it goes, it's not like I was thinking it was going to beat out, you know, Avatar for visual effects.

Jeremy Oto (25:37)

Yeah, no one was going to beat out the Avatar. Yeah.

Grant Pearson (25:41)

Y. The fact that it got nominated, it should have just been happy with that. I mean, it was up against Sinners and Jurassic World and something called the Lost Bus that I had never heard of and didn't even realize was nominated until that category came up.

Jeremy Oto (25:55)

1. One big chunk of the show. And when I say a big chunk, I mean, it was a good 30 minutes. Was the in memoriam.

Grant Pearson (26:02)

In memoriam was so long, and they still forgot people.

Jeremy Oto (26:06)

Yeah. I've never seen an in memoriam that long before, and it was beautiful. I mean, there were moments in it that were very touching, and they had multiple speeches. Was cool to, you know, I don't know. It's their show, right? Like, they're giving credit and special remembrance to their friends and family, but, boy, was that long for tv.

Grant Pearson (26:31)

That was really long. I mean, I get that they want to talk about some of these people that are legends, but even when they were going up and doubling up on the screen and doing two people at once, I'm like, oh, they're gonna hit all these people. And they still missed. What? They missed James Vanderbeek. They missed Malcolm, Jamal Warner. They. They. They missed all kinds of people. George Wentz, Robert Carradine. They just kept missing, like, all these people that were not necessarily huge in film, but were at least big enough to make it onto there. I mean, notable names. People know who these people are.

Jeremy Oto (27:14)

George went to the afterlife. Am I right? Yeah, that.

Grant Pearson (27:21)

Steal that later. Topical.

Jeremy Oto (27:24)

Yeah. Yeah. It definitely felt like they were saving some names for next year, Which. Which is odd. You usually don't see that.

Grant Pearson (27:33)

No, yeah, it's. It's. But, yeah, it went on for, what, like 25 minutes, 30 minutes? I don't even know. It's just, like, at the end of it, I. I was done. And then. Nothing against Barbara Streisand, but seriously.

Jeremy Oto (27:48)

Yeah, we. We didn't need Babs. That's. That's what I'm saying. We didn't need Babs.

Grant Pearson (27:54)

No, that part was a little long. A little weird. Should not have happened the way it did, but it did. Whatever. I mean it's, it's, you know what 20 of the show was in memoriam.

Jeremy Oto (28:12)

Yeah. It actually was when you break it down that way. Yes, it was. It was. What about Leo's mustache? You got any feelings on that?

Grant Pearson (28:25)

Leo can do whatever Leo wants. He is doing just fine. I have no thoughts on his mustache. If he wants a mustache, go for it. If he wants a goatee, go for it. If he wants to do that little piece that's under the nose that's kind of the Hitler thing or the Michael Jordan thing, go for it. You know, claim it back.

Jeremy Oto (28:45)

I guess one part of the show that I feel very much bombed was Iron man and Captain America's little bit.

Grant Pearson (28:54)

Oh, yeah, that didn't work.

Jeremy Oto (28:56)

Oh, that was not good. Like that's when keep the comedy for the, for the, for the comedians. Like that was bad. Bad.

Grant Pearson (29:04)

Yeah. I mean the best part of that was when Channing Tatum.

Jeremy Oto (29:07)

Yes.

Grant Pearson (29:08)

Yelled out from the crowd that he needed a back.

Jeremy Oto (29:10)

Yes. Which if that's the punchline, I guess in the end your joke worked. But what a long ass setup to get to that point.

Grant Pearson (29:17)

Yeah, it really was.

Jeremy Oto (29:20)

But yeah, that as far as any of those reading of the nominees. That one fell. That one fell.

Grant Pearson (29:29)

That one was, that one was difficult. It's like there's these two people that have worked together how many times now should have this great chemistry, have things worked out and it just, it seemed like they didn't even know each other.

Jeremy Oto (29:41)

That's one that, this is one of those bits that was so bad. Whoever wrote it like for the show was not going on Twitter that night going, I did that. Like nobody's taking credit there.

Grant Pearson (29:52)

Yeah. He's like, I did the Iron Man, Captain America thing. What did you think?

Jeremy Oto (29:57)

Yeah, that's, it's pretty brutal. But yeah, I mean it, it was, it's always fun. I mean I enjoyed watching the show. It's, it's good to, you know, put a bow on, you know, the awards season there. But anything else. What, what did we miss here?

Grant Pearson (30:16)

I don't know if we missed anything. I think we hit it all.

Jeremy Oto (30:18)

Okay.

Grant Pearson (30:19)

I guess the only other thing, Best casting, the new category. We didn't talk about that.

Jeremy Oto (30:24)

Yes, that was, it went to one battle.

Grant Pearson (30:28)

Battler. Yeah, I, I, I thought it was going to go to centers. I thought that was going to be a Center's win and I did not get that.

Jeremy Oto (30:35)

Yeah, same. I, I did pick Sinners as well to take that one.

Grant Pearson (30:40)

Yeah. It just seemed like with the award or with the nominations as they were, it seemed like it was spread out enough and.

Jeremy Oto (30:49)

Well, yeah, it is a neat category though. I mean, that's. I. It's cool that casting directors get a little. Get a loves. A little love as well.

Grant Pearson (30:58)

Yeah. And what was it? Was it the documentary feature that came in a tie?

Jeremy Oto (31:02)

Yes, that was a big moment and actually I thought it was handled incredibly well by the presenter.

Grant Pearson (31:10)

Or was it. Was it Live Action Short? Is that what it was?

Jeremy Oto (31:13)

I think Live Action Short. Yes.

Grant Pearson (31:16)

Yeah. Yeah, that was. That was crazy. I love that it was Kumail Nanjiani up there for that part to be like, no, this is real. And it's like, you're a comedian, you're making this stuff up now.

Jeremy Oto (31:31)

Yeah, that's the. That's the thing. When you do put a funny, funny person up there, you never know what's real and. And he even handled it with jokes and stressed that this was very much real life, but it was funny and how serious he took it when. Yeah. Best Live Action Short. The singers and two people exchanging saliva and it was funny. He's like, we're gonna get through this. And I'm like, yeah, like this is some serious thing. Like somebody read off the wrong winner or something. You know, like.

Grant Pearson (32:01)

Yeah.

Jeremy Oto (32:03)

Which would never happen at the album.

Grant Pearson (32:05)

No, never. Nothing like that has ever happened.

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But yeah, that was a. Definitely a very memorable moment of the.

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Yeah.

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Grant Pearson (35:04)

Speaking of things to remember though, the Razzies also happened this last weekend.

Jeremy Oto (35:09)

Oh yes, good transition because we are also talking about the worst of the worst from the year. And holy cow did we find out overwhelmingly War of the Worlds, which you called out when we did the preview episode that War of the Worlds was gonna be the big one and it did not disappoint.

Grant Pearson (35:29)

No, I mean it's. It's. Have you watched it yet?

Jeremy Oto (35:31)

Not yet, but it is. I'm certainly going to watch it.

Grant Pearson (35:35)

Oh yeah, no, I absolutely encourage everyone to watch it because it is terrible. It is just something that you can't describe to people you have to actually experience to understand how bad it is I mean, Ice Cube doesn't actually interact physically with another human there. He's never in a scene with somebody. He's recording the entire thing over Covid in a room, and they record there. They did the rest of the movie later or something. I don't even know how it went down. But it was just him reacting to nothing for an hour and a half. And it was. It's. It's got to be seen to be believed.

Jeremy Oto (36:14)

And you got to think if an actor carries, you know, screen time like that and is being talked about around Oscar time, good things are happening. But instead, he. He picks up Worst Actor of the Year for. For his performance there and along with Best Picture as well. It's fun because the razzies only have nine categories.

Grant Pearson (36:37)

Yes.

Jeremy Oto (36:38)

And unlike the Oscars, which had 24, and War of the Worlds picks up five of them.

Grant Pearson (36:45)

Yep. Five of them. Yeah. It's. Yeah. It's a special thing to be able to, like, you know, movie like. Have you seen Buried with Ryan Reynolds?

Jeremy Oto (36:54)

I have, actually. I very much enjoyed that movie.

Grant Pearson (36:57)

Yeah. That's a movie that's entirely about one person and the thing that they're going through, and it works out well. You know, it didn't work out to get him an Oscar or anything, but it was like, okay, he's carrying this movie. He's doing a good job. Being the sole character in this movie,

Jeremy Oto (37:14)

I felt like the world. That movie brought some, like, high tension levels.

Grant Pearson (37:20)

Oh, yeah, absolutely. And, you know, it's the same thing. You know, not to give any spoilers to this movie, but undertone that just came out.

Jeremy Oto (37:30)

Okay.

Grant Pearson (37:30)

It's really. You see two people, you talk to a lot of different people, but you see two people the entire time of the movie.

Jeremy Oto (37:40)

Does it. It gives off a little bit of that skidamarink vibe. Is it anything like that?

Grant Pearson (37:46)

Not at all. Well, some people have said that some parts of it are like that in the sense of, like, being focused on sound and stuff, but it is a much, much better movie than Skin and Marink. Nothing against the people out there that love Skin of a Rink, but that's a. That's a painful one to get through.

Jeremy Oto (38:03)

Yeah, Skinnamarink was awful, but.

Grant Pearson (38:06)

Yeah. I mean, but there's people that can pull off being the only person in a movie. Ice Cube is not one of those people. That's what this is all coming back around to, is that you do not put all of your money on Ice Cube being the star and alone and having to really act, you know, he's He's. Yeah, he. That's not his. That's not his thing. We'll just leave it at that. Yeah, he. He would be better off, you know, as one of the seven dwarves that also lost at the Razzies or one at the Razzies or whatever you want to call it.

Jeremy Oto (38:43)

Worst screen combo was all seven doors.

Grant Pearson (38:46)

Yes. So he. He managed to not win that category, but yeah, it's. It's. I encourage everyone to watch it just because, you know, it's. It is what it is. This just thing where there's people behind this movie that really believed in it and tried to do a great job, and it fails so spectacularly that you're like, none of these people should ever work again.

Jeremy Oto (39:17)

It's over. Yeah, those, like, those little dwarves, they took home worse supporting actor and worst screen combo. So they had a big night.

Grant Pearson (39:26)

Yeah. I wonder if they showed up in person.

Jeremy Oto (39:31)

Six of them. One was meeting with the president of Ukraine. Worst actress. I'm actually, I was. I was excited to see Rebel Wilson. Took that home for Bright Hard. That was very well deserved as well.

Grant Pearson (39:45)

I have not seen the Bride hard, but given a lot of her recent movies, I can see where she would absolutely end up in that situation.

Jeremy Oto (39:55)

Yeah. If you want to know what it looks like on the complete opposite end of the world for Rebel Wilson, Melissa McCarthy was at the Academy Awards, so there you go.

Grant Pearson (40:05)

Yes. Well, Melissa McCarthy's been nominated for two Academy Awards.

Jeremy Oto (40:10)

Yeah. She knows she's. That's what I'm saying. That's the complete opposite.

Grant Pearson (40:15)

Yeah.

Jeremy Oto (40:15)

Yeah. That's good stuff.

Grant Pearson (40:17)

Yep.

Jeremy Oto (40:18)

All right, well, the Razzies. Well, we did our. We did our pool like we do every year, where we pick the winners and, you know it. And then we. We follow along through the whole show, and then at the end, we put it together. 24 categories this year. One winner.

Grant Pearson (40:38)

Yep. We gotta. We gotta set this up with. This isn't just the two of us. This is also each one of our spouses.

Jeremy Oto (40:44)

Yes. And our children and the kids.

Grant Pearson (40:46)

So there's. There's. The kids have joined in on this. So there's seven of us going for this. Out of the 24 categories, how do we want to present this?

Jeremy Oto (40:55)

So did Des. Des, at one point, you were giving an update on your guys scores and you said, and Des is in the basement. So did he just give up on the show altogether?

Grant Pearson (41:05)

He gave up for a little bit and then came back up and watched the rest. He ended up with 12, though. He got 12 of the 24 which considering that he hasn't seen all the movies, he really went. Some of the movies that he liked, that's kind of what he went for, was the ones that he had actually seen, you know, to be able to enjoy those movies. You know, I think it killed him on Best Animated Feature to not vote for arko or Zootopia 2, because both of those movies feature Andy Samberg, who is his personal hero. But he did put K Pop Demon Hunters, even though it killed him to do that.

Jeremy Oto (41:44)

Yeah, that's the obvious choice to take. To take K Pop Dem.

Grant Pearson (41:49)

Yeah. Yeah. And anybody that picked Zootopia 2 for that one, man, what were they thinking?

Jeremy Oto (41:55)

What an idiot that person would be. No chance of winning. So Hattie, she was. We, we. She handed in her. She literally as the show was. Conan was in his opening monologue and we never saw her again. So. But she got 7 out of 24 correct. So she was putting that together quickly. Brayden, on the other hand, very much in the thick of things throughout the show. Ended up with 14 out of 24 correct. Was very much distraught that Marty supreme wasn't the big winner for the night.

Grant Pearson (42:32)

Yeah, I mean, I can see that. I mean, I really did like Marty supreme and like I said earlier, I wish I would have, but unfortunately your son banked on that and didn't work out.

Jeremy Oto (42:43)

It just didn't work out well. And Kathy, so she was dominating a lot of those technical categories.

Grant Pearson (42:51)

Yep. She was going good early and then started to fall off. She was ahead of us a little bit for most of the night. And then me and her actually ended up tied at 18 out of the 24.

Jeremy Oto (43:04)

Okay, 18. And Ashley also had 18, which

Grant Pearson (43:12)

18 is a really good score. I mean, out of 24 categories.

Jeremy Oto (43:15)

No, 18's a great score.

Grant Pearson (43:17)

18 is great. I think 18 makes you a winner.

Jeremy Oto (43:20)

Yeah, 18 should make you feel good and you know, really want to boost your self esteem. Feel that. 18 is a good number. Unless you're going up against somebody who got more race. Right.

Grant Pearson (43:32)

Yeah. Which there's no way anybody got more right than that.

Jeremy Oto (43:35)

Imagine picking Zootopia 2 to beat K Pop Demon Hunters, which I did. I took a chance. Okay. You have to take some chances in this thing. And that's the. Sometimes you have to look at. At a category or a couple and be like, I'm going to go the road less traveled. And that is. So if things go south, I might be able to catch up in some categories. Yeah, I got that one wrong. K pop swept its two categories, but I dominated the rest of the field. 19. Correct. I really regretted that Zootopia one because popping that 20 would have been sweet.

Grant Pearson (44:17)

That would have been good. But you didn't. You just got 19 like some loser or something.

Jeremy Oto (44:24)

So it pays to know a guy who watches all the movies and I can pick your brain and then go ahead and take it all.

Grant Pearson (44:33)

Yeah, you should have listened to me on like Best Actor, Gone with Leo or Timothy.

Jeremy Oto (44:39)

Yeah, I really wanted to pick Timothy Chalamet there, but man, all the momentum was on Michael B. Jordan.

Grant Pearson (44:47)

Everything was going. Michael B. Jordan. Yeah. And everything was going your way. You ended up. You ended up beating us by one.

Jeremy Oto (44:54)

You know what?

Grant Pearson (44:54)

All it takes to win, though, what

Jeremy Oto (44:56)

actually swung it for me, I mean, the momentum was there. I kept. The thing that was in my head was that the voting was done. They kept saying the voting was done before the controversial comments and. And I'm like, okay, but the momentum's there. So what the deciding factor for me was I went on Kalshee to see which way the voting was going and it was like 60 some percent to Michael B. Jordan. So that, that made my decision for me.

Grant Pearson (45:24)

Me. You went with ki. That's nice.

Jeremy Oto (45:27)

Yeah. Sometimes you gotta go to the people and, and just kind of run a poll.

Grant Pearson (45:32)

Yeah. And if there's something you love to do, it's running a poll.

Jeremy Oto (45:37)

Oh, heyo. Oh, Johnny, thank you.

Grant Pearson (45:40)

Oh, that was good.

Jeremy Oto (45:41)

That was good.

Grant Pearson (45:42)

Thank you. That's. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm here for. I'm. I'm a bitter loser.

Jeremy Oto (45:48)

So that's a. That's my first waiting of many years because you, you've been doing pretty good.

Grant Pearson (45:55)

I won last year, I think, right?

Jeremy Oto (45:56)

Yeah, yeah, you did.

Grant Pearson (45:58)

Yeah. So I won last year and then this year things were going pretty good and then we got to those last three categories and I'm like, we've picked the same exact things. There's no way for me to, to win at this point.

Jeremy Oto (46:08)

That's the worst part too, when you, when you start to get to those, like, last big four and then you're. You need to catch up on one or two and you look at it and you're like, well, shoot, we. We all are on the same page.

Grant Pearson (46:20)

Yep, yep. So. But yeah, so congratulations on your win. Congratulate Ashley on her tie for second.

Jeremy Oto (46:29)

Yeah. 18. Nothing to, you know, nothing to be upset about.

Grant Pearson (46:33)

Nope. That's a. It's a 75. I mean, that's passing.

Jeremy Oto (46:38)

It is you. Yeah. You have passed. You should get your own Academy Award.

Grant Pearson (46:43)

Yeah. Absolutely. So. All right, well, next year, Next year I'm gonna dominate this bracket. I'm not going to put personal feelings into it and put Stone Skarsgard in there. I'm gonna put Sean Penn in there where he's supposed to be, and I'm going to get all 24.

Jeremy Oto (47:01)

Right, you're just gonna, you're gonna try to do a. Who's the guy who made. Is it. It's Peter. The guy who did Lord of the Rings.

Grant Pearson (47:10)

Peter Jackson.

Jeremy Oto (47:11)

Peter Jackson.

Grant Pearson (47:11)

That.

Jeremy Oto (47:12)

You're gonna try to pull a Peter Jackson and pick up an award for the third movie when you probably should have got it for the first movie.

Grant Pearson (47:19)

Yes. Yep, yep, yep. I'm gonna do that. So. But yeah, otherwise, you know, not an enjoyable show for the most part.

Jeremy Oto (47:29)

No, it wasn't. But we make it fun, though. We enjoy it. So. Yeah, no, it's always a good night.

Grant Pearson (47:36)

It's not like I'm not gonna watch next year's. It's. Of course I'm gonna watch. I don't care who hosts. Put Conan back in there. I'll be excited. Put Jimmy Kimmel in there. That'll be great. DeGeneres in there. And I'll probably consider things.

Jeremy Oto (47:49)

We didn't even discuss Jimmy Kimmel. He kind of bombed.

Grant Pearson (47:54)

Oh, yeah, that's late night shows host bomb all the time. That's what they do.

Jeremy Oto (48:00)

Yeah, that was, that was something. He had something to prove there. And he, he even made a joke about Melania not being nominated and she wasn't even Elvis eligible. So that was, yeah, that was something.

Grant Pearson (48:11)

Yeah, I, I, that, that joke did bother me. I mean, it probably doesn't bother the normal person because they're just like, oh, Melania came out. I remember that movie. But like, when he said that, I'm like, it's not nominated for this year.

Jeremy Oto (48:22)

It goes back to. We're the nerds that are like, well, this is not winging an Emmy. This is, we just, we knew the technical stuff. Oh, that was awesome. All right, well, you were, you're actually, you're on your way to go watch another movie, right? What are you watching?

Grant Pearson (48:37)

I'm going to go see Project Hail Mary.

Jeremy Oto (48:39)

There you go. That'll be a good one.

Grant Pearson (48:41)

It's, it's, it looks fantastic. Has gotten great reviews. Very excited to see what it is all about. And maybe I'll be on to talk about it at some point. Beautiful.

Jeremy Oto (48:56)

Beautiful, Grant. All right, well, good job. Another successful Oscar season.

Grant Pearson (49:02)

Yes. All right, well, thank you very much.

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