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Kalpen (Cal Penn)
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Jo (Laugh With Me Podcast Host)
It's a brand new episode. This is Laugh With Me, the podcast with Jeremy Odom and I'm your host.
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Jo (Laugh With Me Podcast Host)
Hey, it's Jo and I gotta clear something up from last episode. If you listen to the Friday Happy hour, number 18. Thank you, Johnny. Eighteen's a big number. That's, that's a big number. Hopefully we can crank out 18 more of those Friday happy hours. I gotta clear something up. I did get some feedback, mainly from my brother who said you forgot to mention where with a broken back you still managed to help win in basketball against America's future. Which is true. The youth of the nation went down to the couple of old guys. So Kyle and I, even after a day later, after falling and breaking my back in a skateboard accident, I managed to in a two on three disadvantage, go on to win in a basketball game. And I will say this is, this is what I want to say about that is one, I'm not going to take all the credit. Kyle was moving around the most. Had to, I had to play point. I had to do all check, check ins and kind of, you know, from a standstill position, distribute the basketball and then I would move from there. Had to, there was no way I was in a position to move around and get open. That's just wasn't going to happen. So kudos to Kyle for that one. I also would like to say when you're talking about the three young teenagers that we did beat in basketball, one of them is, he's positioned at the top of the key and he's yelling ISO. I mean, he's calling out plays. I just, I just want to throw that out there that this wasn't any, you know, lesser competition. This was good competition. Just because they were young, please give them the credit they deserve because this was, this was a tough battle, especially me with the broken back. And then Kyle's old as he is. He, you know, he's going to be 40 next year and that's, you know, a couple old guys. We did pretty good in Fact, we were playing to 10 by ones, we were down 8 to 2, and we came back to win the game. So I. I'd like to take more credit than what I deserve. All I want to say is, you know, with a broken back, we persevered. We persevered. So kudos, Kyle. He. He wanted to make sure that we called that out, that despite all the injuries and everything, we still managed to prevail. So there you go. That's. That was the deal with my back. You know, here we are, we're well over a week later, and I am still hurting from this back injury, but I'm moving around a little bit. Thing is, once I get going, I get moving, you know, a little more than a normal brisk walk. I'm out of breath, and that's not something I was encountering previous to the back injury. So there's got to be something with the ribs or lungs or something. Gotta be, gotta be, gotta be healing, though. But I do feel like every day I'm getting a little better. But today, today we got a story time. It is story time with Jo, and that's. It is medical related. It has nothing to do with my back. This time I will save you from that. No, this time we're getting back in the nitty gritty of Crohn's disease because one of the things that I deal with almost on a monthly basis is receiving an IV of some blood, some iron, because sometimes both, because, you know, I'm. I get very anemic. And I did encounter that this last week where I had to on two separate occasions, go to the IV center and, you know, get plugged in. Monday, not so bad. One poke, got it in, boom, boom, boom. Thirty minutes later, I'm out the door, right? Friday, on the other hand. Here's the thing, though. Hand up might have started with me as the problem. I just want to throw that out there because I guess I had like a 210appointment and your boy showed up at 8:15am And I'll tell you why. Normally I do have morning appointments, and Monday was an 8:15 appointment. And at 8, around 8 o' clock on Thursday, the day before my appointment, I received the notification that it was time to check in, which tells me 24 hours from the appointment. What I didn't do is actually confirm and check that appointment time. I've learned my mistake. And anybody who deals with that kind of stuff, that's listening. I learned my lesson, okay? Because trust me, they made sure to hit me on every level of the way that I need to double check my stuff. I get it. And I've never had this issue before, so I don't know why they had to really, you know, shove it down my throat, but they really did. But they made me pay. Let's just say that. So then I show up, they make it work. They said, no problem, just come on up, we'll. We'll get you squared away, right? Because I'm in the basement. I'm in the hematology. Why do they put hematology in the basement? I'll tell you what, I never had hematology up until maybe a little over a year ago, two years, year and a half ago or so. And they have been life saving, having them on, on the medical team. Life saving. Like they can just get stuff done immediately, things that I've had to wait weeks for. So I truly appreciate. And they don't ask for much in return. That's the thing, they. They don't ask for much other than me showing up. So I, I truly appreciate the hematology department, anybody who works in that area. So they let me up. I walk in, they get me checked in, they give me the business about my appointment not being the right time. I apologize again, because I've already apologized once. Apologize again. Then I go and sit in my seat. I have the nurse who's going to be putting the IV in me, gives me the business about the. I apologize.
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Jo (Laugh With Me Podcast Host)
then I get the head nurse, the person who's working the IV to come over to remind me that I need to double check my appointments. And I know I get it, and I apologize to her as well. Now the original nurse comes over and she's going to put in the iv. I've never seen her before. She's gonna put the IV in and, you know, go my way. Now I, I am. It's difficult sometimes to find the spot, you know, the vein, like I am difficult. I don't know if it's the. I'm not a doctor, so I'm not gonna say it's because of xyz, but there's. There's something going on in me that makes it so that my veins disappear, that makes them difficult to find, that makes them difficult to poke.
Podcast Host - Jeremy Odom
I.
Jo (Laugh With Me Podcast Host)
There's. There is something there. And they've, they've told me this before. In fact, in a previous office, an office, a hospital visit, one of the times I had a ER stay, they. After so many pokes, they ended up using this, this machine to like, like X ray through my bicep. And find the spot. Something they, you know, generally use when they are looking at a baby in the womb. Like, what's that called, Johnny? What's that called? What the hell is that thing called? But they use that on my arm so they could find the vein and put in the iv.
Kalpen (Cal Penn)
And they.
Jo (Laugh With Me Podcast Host)
They did. They found it very easily with that machine. But it was like, holy cow, this is what we're dealing with. I mean, multiple people coming in and poking me and trying to figure it out in this previous visit. So we get to today and, you know, she's like, I'm gonna get you. And she. She goes in, she's got this rule. She's like, I won't go into your tattoos. And I'm like, okay, whatever. And I understand why you wouldn't want to do that. You might ruin the art. Whatever. But anyway, she's trying to avoid the tattoos, but eventually it doesn't matter. So they see the spot where we went in Monday and avoided that one. Went to the other arm, tried. She said she got it. She can get a little bit of blood up a man did it hurt like hell. So I know it's not right. And she keeps going. And we are probably 45 seconds with it in, and it hurts like hell. And she's not quite getting it. She pulls it out and says, I'll tell you what, I'm gonna get somebody else who maybe is a little more experienced in this, and then we'll go from there. So she doesn't want anyone to try for a second time. She's immediately moving on to the second nurse. So it's like, okay, so she brings in another nurse who's going to try, who then takes a stab at it. You get that, Johnny. And that. That one doesn't go well either. This one misses altogether. It hurts. We. We pull that out. We're gonna try now the. The head. The. The head nurse, the one who. Who's giving me the business about the. About the appointment time. So she comes over and she takes two runs of this thing. So now I'm at four pokes. And she now is saying, maybe we should call, eat the ER and see who's there, because we can get the ER to come in and maybe help a little bit, because at this point we're getting no blood out. And it's hurting. It's hurting like the veins are. They're either blowing them or they're missing them all together because it's disappearing on them once. They're like, you have great veins. You've got good veins that pop up and then boom, we're going in and they just disappear. And I don't know if I don't know the psychiatry, the psychology of it, like with a human body, like, maybe I'm nervous when the needle's going in because that's why I usually look away. And maybe I'm nervous and then when that happens, my body, like, the veins will just disappear. I don't know. But I know it's happening. And it was a struggle. And we were at 40 minutes at trying to put this IV in now.
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Jo (Laugh With Me Podcast Host)
So then we get. So the so as we were waiting for the ER guy, then a nurse that the only nurse there that I was familiar with that she's there often, she's actually a Chargers fan as well. So we all, we often talk about the Bolts and what Justin Herbert needs in order to take the next step. Which frankly, this off season's a big one because if we didn't fix the offensive line now, I, I don't know what to tell you. I mean you could, you could see it on his body last year. It was breaking down all over the place because of the multitude of hits he was taking. And the offensive line was absolute track. And then it was trash just because of the injuries. It was like, you know, next man up. Sure. But when you're five, six, seven, eight deep, it's not helpful. But I digress. Both need some help. I think this is the year we're going to get some help. But anyways, anyway, she's a Chargers fan. She goes over, she wants to take a Stab at it. So then she goes in and she tries one time. So what's that? Number five. And she can't get it. She's like, let's go to the other arm, where I got it last time on Monday, we're gonna give it a roll there. So she gives it a go. This is now poke number six. Unfortunately, it doesn't work. And she's really good. So I've seen. I mean, I've had her put the IV in many, many times. So I. I trust her. It just.
Kalpen (Cal Penn)
It.
Jo (Laugh With Me Podcast Host)
For whatever reason, I wasn't about that life this time. So then the. The ER guy comes in, and this is where it gets interesting. Because immediately he's all business, right? He could. He's all. He's probably pissed. He's there. He walked all the way over and saw another nurse trying to administer it. And we thought. He thought we were waiting for him, which kind of we were. He goes in, but he wants to hit that spot, like, on your wrist, on the inside of your wrist that they don't do that. They won't do. Like, the nurses, they're like, no, no, we don't touch that. He goes right in on that. Because he's an ER guy and he feels like he can. He can do it. So he goes in immediately, hops in that vein, right in the. Right on the inside of my left wrist. And when I say. And, oh, and let me tell you this. That nurse that was there before that, that I know, she's like, I. I know where he's going with this. And I'm going to sit here with you, and you're going to hold my. And I'm going to, like, hold your hand. Or you can hold my hand and squeeze as hard as you need to, because it's got to hurt. I'm like, what the. Like, it's been hurting. Like, it's been hurting. And sure enough, boy, did it hurt. And I'm squeezing her hand. She's like, don't scream. This is. This is a quote, and this is why I appreciate her. You're not. You're not going to scream like a little bitch. And I'm like, I'm not. I'm not going to scream. I'm not going to scream. I'm just going to squeeze your hand. And I did do that, and it did hurt. And he did blow my vein,
Kalpen (Cal Penn)
which
Jo (Laugh With Me Podcast Host)
we're gonna put the picture up. You could see it on our. On our ex account as well. Laugh with me. POD or at JL from Nebraska, because they did blow the wrist, and it did bubble up like crazy. And it did bruise. I mean, we're three days in and look at that bad boy. And it's. It's still bruising up pretty good. I never bruise up like that from an iv, but, boy, did it. It was huge. It was bleeding. So Eddie missed. So. So we're on a number eight. And I told him, hey, at this point, I'm looking for the hospital record. He advised, I do not go for that. It. The H would be a personal record. So I have now achieved my own personal record of how many times attempts it's taken to put the administer the iv. But he had recommended I do not go for the hospital record. So I declined from that. And I said, then that's on you. Eight times a charm, right? Like, let's go. So he flips my hand over, goes up my left wrist, finds a little vein. He ends up. He ends up putting it in. Ends up putting it in.8 time. I had to put that wrap around my left wrist, though, because it's bleeding like hell. Boy, I tell you that. That's the only one I've ever had. And I've had. I've had some blown. In fact, I've had them in my right bicep before where not only did they blow it, and I told them it hurt, they said, no, no, no, we know better. And it's good. And they went ahead and started pumping in, you know, what they needed to pump in. And my bicep got so freaking big and tight, and it hurt like hell. I had to call the nurse, like, this ain't right. This. I'm not that big. That's what she said. So it's like, that's where I. I know, right? Like, I just. I know. And, boy, this wrist one. This first one hurt. Like, driving home, I. I had to right hand only on the wheel and left arm was down because flipping that wrist anyway with the steering wheel was something special. But, yeah, so that's. That's where we're at. That's. I ended up getting what I needed. I got my blood.
Kalpen (Cal Penn)
I'm in.
Jo (Laugh With Me Podcast Host)
I'm. I'm hopefully gonna be good for a month or so. We're hopefully longer. But this is. This is where we're at. This is what we're dealing with here in the. The world of being anemic and having the Crohn's. Having the Crohn's. And it's. It's not just that. I mean, they say that this part of it the things you deal with at the hospital is some of the worst stuff. But I. I would have to argue that was bad and it was inconvenient and it hurt. But I have to argue that some of the stuff we go through in every day of the immediate of having to find where the toilet is, the immediate of having to know where a toilet is just in case, at all times. I mean, that's. That's the stuff that I think that people don't think about because, like, the mental stuff, like, you're already not sure what you're gonna eat. You're already not sure how you're gonna feel at any moment. You know, you might look like you're doing fine, but you're exhausted or you're in pain, your whole body hurts. Or, you know, you just. Or you're like. You know, when someone's stomach hurts, they have cramps, and it's like, well, I'm gonna. I. I need to use the toilet. I need to go. And then they go. And they go. I feel better. Like, we. We have that. And then our ass hurts. Like, the colon hurts for some time because it just went through. It just went through some things that I. And I'm not even going to begin to be able to explain because I'm not a doctor, but the. The pain and the constant not knowing how we're going to feel, that. I think that's the. The mental part. Like, that's the worst part. I live by the. If I'm going anywhere, I need to know that they're going to have functional bathroom. And if they don't, who is going to, you know, nearby or my timeline. How long am I going to be here? So I have a countdown of when I'm going to be at the next place I need to be at. That's. That's. That's real stuff that folks with Crohn's disease, like, deal with on a daily basis, and it could be a lot. And then just think of the embarrassment of if you don't make it. You know, if you don't make it in time, then what? So, yeah, it's not all jokes with IVs. I know that. And this is the other stuff that it really. Man, it really can start to wear. Wear on you. And I was telling. I was telling Johnny about this, and he's like, I think I got exactly what you need. I'm like, what if you've known Johnny what was going to cure Crohn's all along? Buddy, I could have used you years ago. He's like, no, no, no, no, I don't. I'm not, I'm not gonna kill. I'm not. He's not a doctor either. Just put that out there. But he knows exactly how to put that smile on my face. And that's by getting the help of the Pepper Spray Singers. They have put together a banger today just for you, just for all of us. And this one, well, this one goes out to everybody who knows what I'm dealing with here with the, with the Crohn's. In fact, I, I, my buddy Cody. Cody, this one, this one's for you.
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I know every bathroom sign like it owes me rent tonight Low iron, heavy eyes Still I'm Dr. To look alive I eat safe, I pay in pain Roll the dice with every plate Chicken rice in quiet regret that's my gourmet roulette Body says not today I say we've got miles to make Pocket full of backup plans and a map in my shaking hand Bathroom map, bathroom map I live by the bathroom map bathroom map, bathroom map Please don't make my stomach snap Bathroom map, bathroom map I'm one wrong bike from collapse Bathroom map, bathroom map Still I laugh and make it back. Balls feel slow, legs feel fake like I ran a race I didn't take bleedin red in the review Real cute when I can't review Friends say try this, it's fresh I say this that sounds like trouble dressed whole menu looks like a threat but I still show up anyway Tommy's throwing fists again I'm in the pit with my own skin count to 10 then count again Try not to fold in half, my friend Bathroom map, bathroom map I live by the bathroom map bathroom map, bathroom map Please don't make my stomach snap Bathroom map, bathroom map on one row long bike from collapse Bathroom map, bathroom map Still I laugh and make it back if I vanish mid conversation check the nearest station I'm not being rude, I'm negotiating I'm a little worn, a little wrecked still got chokes and what's left if my body starts the war I'll come back asking for more. Bathroom map, bathroom map I live by the bathroom map bathroom map, bathroom map Please don't make my stomach snap Bathroom map, bathroom map on one long bite from collapse Bathroom map, bathroom map Till I laugh and make it back yeah, I laugh and make it back yeah, I laugh and make it back.
Jo (Laugh With Me Podcast Host)
That's what I'm talking about, Johnny. That's what I'm talking about that's we're Living by the bathroom map That's Cody. I. I couldn't have been more on the nose without one. It's for you and I, my guy. But that's. That's where we're at. That's where we're at with this thing, okay? We're going to appointment to appointment. We're trying to see how we can get through. And we're gonna laugh our way through it because that's the only thing we can do. You didn't know I could rhyme, did you, Johnny? I know you didn't think I could rhyme. Thank you. This has been story time with Jo. Thanks for listening. We have three new episodes this week on Laugh With Me. We'll see you next time.
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Podcast: Laugh with Me
Host: Jeremy Odem ("Jo")
Date: June 29, 2026
Episode Focus: Jo endures a notorious IV mishap during treatment for Crohn’s disease and reflects on the real-life struggles, humor, and resilience in the chronic illness experience.
In this episode, Jeremy Odem (“Jo”) delivers another candid installment of “Story Time with JO.” Drawing from his lived experiences with Crohn's disease, Jo recounts a particularly rough encounter with IV placement, shares behind-the-scenes details of life with chronic illness, and – true to form – finds the laughter amongst the pain. The show culminates with a humorous, heartfelt musical performance, “Bathroom Map,” dedicated to fellow Crohn’s warriors.
(03:27 – 06:23)
“This wasn’t any, you know, lesser competition … please give them the credit they deserve…” (04:53)
“…well over a week later and I am still hurting from this back injury, but I'm moving around…” (06:03)
(06:24 – 22:02)
“I had like a 2:10 appointment and your boy showed up at 8:15am.” (07:45)
“...they made me pay. Let's just say that.” (08:42)
Jo describes being a difficult "stick" for nurses, with disappearing veins.
“There’s something going on in me that makes it so my veins disappear...” (10:03)
Multiple nurses attempt IV insertion, totaling eight painful pokes:
“She’s like, ‘You're not going to scream like a little bitch,’ and I’m like, ‘I'm not going to scream. I’m just going to squeeze your hand.’” (18:43)
“Eight times a charm, right? Like, let's go.” (20:40)
Jo jokes about aiming for the hospital record for attempts but wisely stops at eight.
(22:03 – 25:27)
“The mental part, like...that's the worst part. I live by the...If I'm going anywhere, I need to know that they're going to have a functional bathroom.” (23:12)
On giving credit to competitors:
“…one of them is positioned at the top of the key and he's yelling ISO. I mean, he's calling out plays.” (05:09)
About apologizing for the appointment mishap:
“Apologize again. Then I go and sit in my seat. I have the nurse who's going to be putting the IV in me, gives me the business about the...I apologize.” (09:16)
On repeated IV failures:
“They're either blowing them or they're missing them all together because it's disappearing on them...You’ve got good veins that pop up and then, boom, we're going in and they just disappear.” (12:40)
Nurse’s supportive (and real) encouragement:
“She’s like, ‘You're not going to scream like a little bitch,’ and I’m like, ‘I'm not...I'm just going to squeeze your hand.’” (19:13)
Achieving the “record”:
“He had recommended I do not go for the hospital record. So I declined from that. And I said, then that's on you. Eight times a charm, right?” (20:20)
Reflecting on the lived reality of Crohn’s:
“Some of the stuff we go through in every day of the immediate of having to find where the toilet is, the immediate of having to know where a toilet is just in case, at all times. I mean, that's...that's the stuff that I think that people don't think about...” (22:58)
(25:27 – 28:25)
Jo introduces a comedic but heartfelt original song, performed by the “Pepper Spray Singers” and dedicated to his friend Cody and the Crohn’s/IBD community.
Jo closes with appreciation for music and comedy as survival tools:
“...we're gonna laugh our way through it because that's the only thing we can do.” (28:40)
Best For:
Listeners seeking relatable, comedic storytelling about chronic illness, resilience, and finding light even during hard times. Fans of original comedy songs and unfiltered, real-life podcasting.
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