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Former Child Star's AI Breaks 3-Year Career Sabotage Cycle in Just 14 Days
Former Child Star's AI Breaks 3-Year Career Sabotage Cycle in Just 14 Days
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Karen Ward Roth
What if AI wasn't just a tool for productivity, but a portal for personal transformation? What if a story wasn't just entertainment, but the software that scripts our identity? Today on Lead with AI, I'm joined by Karen Ward Roth, founder of Reframe Studios AI, a visionary company building what they call a cinematic identity engine. Karen isn't just a founder. She's a filmmaker, cultural architect and narrative futurist who spent her life inside story systems and now she's using AI to rewire them. She's pioneering immersive, intelligent storytelling AI tools that just don't change what we watch, they change who we watch.
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Karen Ward Ross
Are.
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Karen Ward Roth
This is an episode about intelligence, reclaiming authorship, and why the most powerful algorithm you'll ever encounter might be the one running your inner story. Let's get into it.
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Dr. Tamara Nall
Welcome to lead with AI I'm Dr. Tamara Nall. In each episode, we will take you behind the scenes with visionary leaders shaping the the future of AI across public and private sectors. Join us as we explore groundbreaking projects and innovations that are transforming industries and making a real impact on people's lives. Let's dive in.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Hi everyone. Thank you for joining our podcast, lead with AI. I'm Dr. Tamara Nalazani and I am so excited I about our guest today, Karen Ward Ross, who is the founder of Reframe Studios AI Karen, how are you?
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Karen Ward Ross
I'm exceptional. How are you?
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
I am doing really, really well and I'm excited about this topic and how you're using AI to power identity. So let's get into it and I love to start with the spark and that is around who are you at your core? I believe that every great AI idea starts with the person and a deeper vision. So talk to me about your story. How did you come up with this idea and why is there a need? Why does this exist?
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Karen Ward Ross
This exists because story and storytelling is the original code. And so at my core, I am a storyteller, not just in the Hollywood sense. And yes, I executive produce projects, starred in television shows and movies, but I think in a real identity, soul sense. So I help people rewrite the invisible scripts that have been directing their lives. And so Reframe Studios AI was born out of that. It was the moment that I realized that we could take Hollywood level storytelling what we used to produce blockbusters, and we could rewrite human identity. I've, you know, I've been watching brilliant, gifted people live lives and live inside of stories that were never theirs to begin with, including my own. You know, just kind of constructing, rescripting and rewriting my own limited stories around trauma stories that our culture hands us. Someone else has given us the pen and a script to follow. And I wanted to rewrite that and give the power back. So I wanted to create a student studio where we don't just consume transformation, but we are active agents in co creating.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
And is this the same as branding or is it something totally different?
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Karen Ward Ross
I mean, I guess you could look at it as branding of the self, but a deeper layer, a deeper cut. I think it lives at the intersection of narrative psychology and in cinematic storytelling. So I like to tell people that if you, if you had a hybrid between a therapist, a screenwriter and a manifestation coach, that's what I call cinematic intelligence wrapped around in this sophisticated artificial intelligence, which for me AI stands for activated identity. And so that's what it is. It's about people stepping into the lead role of who they were meant to be before the world told them who they should be.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
And you had just mentioned, I mean, you have some remarkable history. The Game, Lincoln Heights, the Parkers, the Bernie Mac show, and it goes on and on and on. Talk to me about your personal story and how you had to portray, you know, an identity that was not your own.
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Karen Ward Ross
Yeah, you know, so being a child actor starting off on the television series Fame, where Debbie Allen, the Debbie Allen, my first Legacy prompt, she had me choreograph an episode of Fame. And I was 8 years old at the time, so I'm a professional dancers and it's eight year old me saying, how am I going to do this? And she said, karen, I didn't give this to you because you're ready. I gave it to you because you are called. And so that calling, that prompting is what I've been living inside of and had wonderful experiences as you mentioned, you know, doing television shows and commercials at that time. But what I found is that I got very adept at playing other people's roles and saying those lines. But when it came to standing in the authenticity of who I was, I was challenged by that. So I took a dark turn. And my identity was so outward facing, it was so given to me by the lights and the camera. So if I wasn't on set and if I wasn't acting, then I was meaningless. And a lot of feel that way. We're so wrapped into our titles, to our bank accounts, to our relationships. So when that shifts, then so do we. So I had to really begin to do some soul searching and cultivate who do I declare myself to be independent of what the world is saying is possible. And so that's an ongoing journey, but that's. That's where I live, and that's where I coach and support other people in rewriting the scripts that were handed to them so that they can step more powerfully in who they were designed to be.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Wow, that is so beautiful. That is absolutely. And it kind of then, you know, segways into. My next question is, you know, obviously you're helping people. Your product is helping people figure out their real identities and not who people say they. They should be. So talk to us about that moment when people first experience your product and realize that this changes everything for them.
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Karen Ward Ross
So I want to clarify. So we are in the baiting, testing aspect of our product, so it's not necessarily available for. For the public in that sense. But there is a moment in every rewrite session where someone sees their story and they. It not just with vision. They see it with the eye, behind the eye. And what I mean by that, it's written out like a script, and they physically recoil, and it's like, oh, wow, I've been living like this. And with that awareness, the rewrite happens in real time. So then there's a new identity script that's written and they. And they fill it and it's. You know, there's more of psychology. Using the cinematic story storytelling framework that I use and customized prompts, it guides you to a series of questions where you see your blind spots. If you got to reveal it to heal it. You know what I mean? You have to change it. So one woman in particular burst into tears and said, I. I didn't. I didn't even realize I was allowed to live like this. And that's. It's about self permission. So that holy smokes moment is when someone realizes in real time the very thing, the very story that has been directing their lives, and then they take the power back and say, I'm taking over as writer, director, storyteller, and star of my own life.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
That's beautiful. Yes. Very powerful. Yeah, no, it's very, very powerful. But let me ask, are there any, like, disadvantages to that? Like, is. Is finding your true, authentic self? Could it lead to kind of less fame and success or less money? Or could it lead to that? Or do you feel like that authenticity is gonna. Is. Is bigger than what they're currently doing?
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Karen Ward Ross
Well, you know, I. I can say that people can have the fame and they have the success and they can have all the worldly, outward trappings instead of still not be fulfilled. There. There's a deep ache inside. And so I have found for myself and through the work, through Reframe Studios AI that it gives a sense of fulfillment that does not live in the external. It lives in the self constructed human identity that we rescript through the process, through the protocols. And you know, we have psychological guardrails and, and you know, there's ethical considerations. You know, you're dealing with the psyche, you're. You're with people's raw emotions. And so basically we take the raw footage of their life, so to speak, and we reassemble it, reconstruct it in a way that is empowering so that they are elevated and living inside of what's possible. So it's been deeply fulfilling.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Yeah, no, that's amazing. And so what about like, break it down for, for the curious listener, how is it all working? You know, some people think, oh, we have AI and it's just a whole bunch of people typing and. Or you think about the old school kind of like black and white films or cartoons where it's kind of going in a hamster wheel. How does it all work? Like, how do you break that all down and increase somebody's vulnerability to, to get to that real self?
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Karen Ward Ross
Well, see, it's not me doing it. It's actually, it's you. It's your, your original cold. So we recalibrate the nervous system in a sense that it's. It's almost as if you're stepping into an a movie editing day, except the movie is your life. And through a series of custom prompts and cinematic frameworks that I've developed working with my artificial intelligence or like I like to say, activated identity, you, you come to a place where through these large language models and frameworks where you, you recognize these subconscious patterns. And it's very freeing. And so I, I think that I always believe this quote. When the student is ready, the teacher will appear. And in this for both the student and the teacher. So I find that those who come to this work are ready for it. They're thirsty for it, they're hungering. Like I said, there's a. There's a blind spot. And who doesn't want to see what you can't see? Because you don't know. You don't know. But oftentimes that script is the one behind the scenes running the show. And it'll make the difference between someone who is in your organization who is actually a leader. But because it's an old story, an old pattern, an old trauma that says otherwise, you never get the Gift of, of who they are. So that's, that's really what I do on a larger kind of level with organizations and corporations. But on the individual level, it shows up in how you mother, how you parent, how you engage with your, with your social circles and your community. So my mission and goal and my legacy is to remind people of who they are before the world told them otherwise.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Yes. No, I love that phrase. Now let's talk about. So you gave an earlier example, this jaw dropping moment where one of your customers got teary eyed because they had this revelation. Talk to us about another situation where you were talking to a customer or you were helping someone and you got the chills, you were teary eyed. What was that? Victory dance? Bring us to that moment so that we can visualize that.
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Karen Ward Ross
I have two, so I'm, I'm thinking of one. This, this was powerful. And this, this was a gentleman who had been stuck in a cycle of career sabotage just as a cycle of it. And so we engaged Reframe AI to rewrite this script titled. What was his script? I Get Close But Never Win. So he was living inside of that identity, right? Yeah. And through the process of, you know, the cinematic framework and the large language model and the prompts and so forth, we reframed it to. I was born to break generational cycles that no man before me could. And the beauty of it was two weeks later I get a phone call from him. And he had partnered with a company that he had been chasing for like three or four years. So it was huge for him. And he felt, he said to me, his words were, he felt that they could feel the new frequency in his pitch, which quite literally they could. And so it was, it was, it was a huge moment because I knew how much he struggled, had been struggling. And, and for me it was, it was so affirming for the work that I do to, to see the impact that it had on his, on his wife, on, on their two daughters. So it just, it was, and I have two daughters, so it just, it was a full circuit moment. And I think what I know to be true is that when you shift your inner script, the world responds accordingly. And not, that's not height. That's, you know, it's, I, I think it's, it's the, it's the original quote. It's quantum alignment and it's done intentionally.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Oh my God, that is, that's absolutely amazing. And there is, you know, we're always taught, or many of us have been taught, that there is power in the tongue and in thought.
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Karen Ward Ross
Yes.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Et cetera. And so your ability and Reframe Studio's AI ability to kind of help turn that cycle, I mean, it was, it was. It was still the same results from, you know, his earlier tries, but now it helped with his pitch. That is absolutely self.
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Karen Ward Ross
We do things equal to the belief that we have about ourselves. Tony Robbins, excellent in that it's the identity that we construct. And, you know, Dr. Thomas, you know, with the work that you, the incredible work that you've done across all verticals from medicine to. I mean, anyone can look at your. Your bio and, and watch your. Your podcast and, and see the good that you're putting in the world. But even as I listen to you have listened to your other podcasts, as people are listening to me, we create pictures in the mind. So, you know, just being. Being an executive producer, being an actress, I am constantly curating experiences and pictures for people in their mind. And, and why not create the most empowered, best case scenario, not from a place of wishful Mandy pandy roses and sprinkles and popcorn, but from a real grounded place of possibility, of and of power. And that's what I think we have access to, especially now with these AI tools.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Yeah. And, you know, you exude power and this spirit and this energy. I mean, because we got introduced based off literally an Instagram post that you had. Like, there was. So I kind of, like, kept scrolling. Then I went back and I'm like, oh, my God, I need to get her on my podcast. So happy.
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Karen Ward Ross
Oh, I was telling someone about you.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
I was.
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Karen Ward Ross
I had an opportunity to be at the AI for my alumni. Howard University was a whole panel of really just avatars, not avatars, leaders, titans in the AI space. And I was telling them about you and your podcast. So afterwards, we'll connect on that. But, yeah, you're doing. You're good. You're doing great work. So I'm.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Thank you, Karen. I really appreciate that. Thank you so much. Now, earlier you mentioned ethics and talk to us a little bit more about that. I mean, you're dealing with a very powerful tool.
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Karen Ward Ross
You're.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
You're kind of breaking people up to kind of put them back together, or they are breaking themselves up to put back together to come up with their identity. How do you make sure that you follow this ethical, moral line and still get them to come out of this shell to talk about and to reshape, you know, past trauma, past successes, and yet keep the human in the loop?
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Karen Ward Ross
Absolutely. No, I love this. I'M glad you said that. We were talking about this this weekend at the Howard University panel about always keeping the human in the loop because behind every prompt there is a prompter and that prompter has a story. So it's keeping that clean. And as I mentioned before, we have built in certain guard realms around this psychological safety and that's part of why we still are in this beta testing phase, obviously to make sure that we're adhering to that and keeping in the loop coaching. And I have a third party company that is able to come in and kind of objectively review and look at, you know, the obviously privilege and autonomy is of the utmost importance. So that's never compromised. And you know, the truth of it. Identity work is sacred. You know, it's, it's AI is focused a lot on optimization and here we're dealing with transformation and liberating the self. So I always believe and will maintain that AI is, is here to serve the human, not the other way around.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
No, that's amazing. That's absolutely amazing. And I think if more people thought about that and had that frame of mind, it would be a lot better. There's so many people who are afraid of it. There are people who are curious. I mean, particularly with booking guests on here. I mean, there are some topics where people are like, oh my God, that's horrible. And I'm like, well, at the end of the day it's happening. We didn't know that it's happening. And the more that we kind of, I don't know if it's called peer pressure, but we encourage each other to use it for good and for human betterment, then the better it'll be.
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Karen Ward Ross
Absolutely, absolutely. And you know, we're at an existential crossroads. Humidity across all verticals, from our social political strata to our personal development to how we're showing up the world, how we're contributing and making money.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Let's talk about the future of Reframe Studio AI. Like what are the possibilities? Where does the future hold? Where do we see it in terms of, you know, our listeners and, and, and what it means to the everyday person.
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Karen Ward Ross
Great questions. You know, I, I, I envision with my kind of mind, I envision where we no longer introduce ourselves by our job titles or in some cases unconsciously, our trauma resumes. Because a lot of times our trauma precedes us whether we're conscious of it or not. We'll introduce ourselves by saying, this is who I'm choosing to become, this is who I am. And I see a World where personal growth isn't just locked behind therapy or on a couch or journaling, which is great, but this is more immediate. And it's a script that reminds us who we're born. And as I mentioned before, it's the intersection of script writing, screenwriting, therapy, and manifestation. That's all guided from your own internal knowledge and wisdom and fixing that in a way that is very specific and unique to you, that it empowers you to step forward and in the role that you were, you were born to play.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
That's amazing. And you kind of look down when you, when you made the statement about sometimes our trauma leads. And I went, and for our listeners, I'm over here thinking, like, do I lead with any trauma? How would I know if I lead with trauma?
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Karen Ward Ross
That's a good question. Well, you know, it's, it's insidious. It. I don't, I don't think it's, it's loud, it's. It's a whisper. And sometimes it's not even anything that's external. It's when you're showing up in spaces and feeling less than you're questioning if you have something to value or perhaps you aren't setting boundaries in your personal interpersonal relationships. Not asking for the raise. So it doesn't always be this loud, demonstrative, obvious, my trauma showing. Although some do. Um, but yeah, so it's just, it's not looking at that from a perspective or lens of shame, but looking at it from a place of wow, I, I get to hold this, transmute it, and then stand on top of it and stand tall, you know, so, yeah.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
I wanted to ask that question because I think that would be very helpful for our listeners, particularly when they hear people can lead with it. But to your point, it could be silent, it could be muted. And you gave a wonderful example that will be, that is relatable to many of our listeners because many of them work in corporations. And you're right about not asking for the raise, not asking for the promotion or the high risk opportunity that can really, you know, propel their career. Not going out on a limb when it comes to entrepreneurship or being aggressive in terms of getting customers or going into that lead role because you have been, you know, kind of pigeonholed into a particular character or types of characters.
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Karen Ward Ross
You. Oh, you are so on it. Yes. I mean, you said it beautifully. That's so powerfully. And my work inside of Reframe Studios, I, I work with organizations and it's called Lights, Camera, lead, and it's been called the Oscars of organizational strategy because that's exactly what we deal with. We deal with those who are hiding behind the scenes in the curtain or waiting to take center stage because they have not yet scripted an identity that says, I'm powerful, I have a contribution, and there's real value given when I step forward. So that's what I assist people doing that. And that works across all verticals, including hospitality. How those show up to serve entrepreneurs, you said. And so we're seeing it not just in the macrocosm, but in the micro, in our living rooms, in our bedrooms, in our families. So it's applicable across the board.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Across the board. Now, I wrote these words down because you did a couple of times. Script writing and screenwriting. Yes. One might think that's only applicable to lights, camera, action.
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Karen Ward Ross
Yes, yes. Yeah.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
TV shows. But are you saying this in the sense of our lives and script writing and screenwriting in our lives?
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Karen Ward Ross
Yes, absolutely. I'm saying in the sense, as a metaphor, that. That we. We all have scripts, meaning as an actor, I take a script and this shows me where I'm going to be, how I'm supposed to feel and when it happens. And we have those same automatic habits, those beliefs and thoughts that are looping over and over again about what's possible, how much money you can make, how much love you access, how much success, how much health. And so those are the scripts, those are the original code, as I mentioned. Story is the original code. And. And reframe, depending on the lens, because it's all about the perspective that you're taking is going to be the life that you live into. If it feels open, accessible and possible, you're going to move forward. If it feels restricted, dangerous and harmful, you're going to retreat. And that's all based on the template, the script that's consciously and unconsciously playing.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
So, Karen, you talked about individuals, corporations, who are your customers. And if I'm listening to this, how do I know that. That you could be helpful to me?
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Karen Ward Ross
Right. So Reframe Studios right now is on the personal level. So what we've been talking about, the beta, has been working with individuals. I take my protocols from Reframe Studios and I do apply them to organizations. And so there's two ways to access it. It can be at the organizational level. I do a lot of keynote speaking and again, working with companies, and it's also on the individual level. So when about the gentleman who, you know, had the big breakthrough and he was able to partner with the company he had been chasing for three years, that was an individual. We're talking about training employees, leadership roles. That's on the organizational. And that's why I wanted it to be a studio because there's, there's such verticals by which this is applicable. And thank you for that question. Thank you for clarifying.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Yeah, no, that's very, very helpful. And if I'm a individual and I'm listening to this, how do I know I need, need to talk to you, that I need your services?
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Karen Ward Ross
Oh, that's a great question. I think there's a little, a little nudge. I've talked about this on a post. This, a little whisper and that whisper says is this it? Isn't there something more? You may have, you know all the trappings. May have the corporate job and title. Is this it? You may have the love feel so fulfilled in a room full of everyone who loves you, yet you feel so alone. Your, your body is, is struggling, you're in pain, you're showing up, you're dressing right and you play the part, but you feel horrible. So it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's an inner knowing. So I, I trust the process. I trust that like as I said before, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. Not that I am the student or the teacher, it's you. When you ready, you will appear. For you to show you the next step in your evolution.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Got it? Got it. And my network and my listeners, they're pretty high ranking and very influential in corporations. What type of titles would do you normally work with it? Is it in hr? Is it in training? What are some of the titles that.
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Karen Ward Ross
Performance coaching, hr, Executive leadership. Those are the ones I've done executive coaching. I've even worked privately. Not necessarily the entire organization, but higher VP level, high performance individuals. And so I like to speak to people's power because we're not. A lot of times we lead with the pain and we have a deficit story. I'm not interested in that. Let's speak and start from your power and then amplify that. So I work with a lot of powerful individuals who are, who are looking to. It's kind of like an energetic biohacking. We have a lot of tools to support the body, to optimize it so they can work at its highest peak. And now we're doing that with the mind, the mental and the psyche and it's making difference. Yeah, got it.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Perfect. Perfect. So you all heard it here. It's that Inner whisper to let you know, yeah, you're looking good on the outside, but you got some stuff going on. And, you know, it doesn't have to be. You know, some people feel like it has to be on their last thread or they're so downtrodden. It doesn't even have to be there. You know, it could. You could be 99%, but there's still something missing.
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Karen Ward Ross
And that you brought that up because, you know, we all know what we're maybe not eating the best. You're like, you know what? I need to have some roughage. There's a little constipation there. So you have a little more salad or you add some spinach to your smoothie. I like to think of it like that, except it can be deep and profound. So it really is. You enter it at the level that you're ready to. So.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Right.
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Karen Ward Ross
Love that.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
So Reframe Studios AI, you know, make us believers. There are people here listening. I was like, well, I have it together. Yes. Sometimes I have my moments. But what's one thing our listeners can try, build, explore this week related to Reframe Studios AI? To really get a taste of your.
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Karen Ward Ross
AI magic, I love that I'm going to take in a slightly deeper level, and I think that I want to encourage those who may be listening to, you know, the little game we used to play where we spot. Spot Waldo or Find Waldo or. I think that was it. I'm going to encourage you to find the lie. Spot the lie. Ooh.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
In your life. The lie in your life. Yes.
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Karen Ward Ross
Spot the lie. You know what it is. You know what it is. You. You can have your come to Jesus moment within yourself. You know what it is? It's about the lie.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Okay.
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Karen Ward Ross
Yeah. And, and, and, and, you know, the beauty of, of this, AI, is that it's not here to tell you anything. It just becomes a mirror so you. You see yourself more clearly. And it's not necessary for me to. To direct what happens there, but when you start looking, I, I do believe that the life that we live is relative to the questions that we ask. So when you start to ask yourself, well, where's the lie? Maybe it's a lie in something that you're doing. The way that you're showing up in work. Maybe lie in the way that you are not authentically expressing yourself in a relationship. Maybe it's a lie in how you're handling your finances or the belief that you are saying about yourself because of your finances. Yeah.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Oh, my goodness. Okay. That's deep Wasn't expecting that, but thank you.
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Karen Ward Ross
Well, I like to deliver the unexpected, you know, and I'm in a little wiggle room because I come from the, from the arts, but this is the art and the science of you.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Oh my goodness. Love that. So as you know, Karen, we have a. From one genius to another question. And so my last guest has a question for you.
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Karen Ward Ross
Yes.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
That is, which everyday task do you think will be automated or eliminated within the next five years? And how do you believe people will use their newfound free time?
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Karen Ward Ross
Great question. So I think that lives in the arena of administrative systems. They're going to be animated administrative work, even some, some of the light, basic legal work. And I think what that's going to gift, it's going to give us is deepening our relationships, giving us free time to access those passions, to step into the painting class to do the things that we don't do. We're bogged down by computers and systems and, and really sweeten our, our conversations. Whether it's in the coffee shop, in your living room or your bedroom. We're not, we're moving from surviving to, to thriving and connecting. That's what I envision and that, that's what I hope for.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Awesome. That's beautiful. I love that. So now let's move to our bonus rapid fire. And I have, I'm going to tell you what it is. You're going to give me the answer. So the first is most overrated tech trend.
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Karen Ward Ross
Oh, well, I mean we just kind of talked about it. I think the product productivity AI stuff. I think, I mean it's helpful, it's useful. But yeah, I think we're putting a lot of focus on that.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Okay, what about the most under hyped AI or tech trend?
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Karen Ward Ross
I think emotionally intelligent storytelling prompts.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Okay, well, we got a solution. Reframe studios AI for that. Okay. One book everyone should read on the future or just on life.
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Karen Ward Ross
I'm going to say the Creative act by Rick Rubin reminds us that AI is a tool, not the muse. So, yeah, very, very powerful book on creative creativity and human innovation.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Okay. The boldest AI prediction you believe.
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Karen Ward Ross
Ooh, you're coming with them. Doctor. I love it. What is AI prediction? Kind of. It lives at the intersection of everything. I've been saying that AI becomes a mirror. It becomes not just our thoughts, but our identities. So that we are, we are rebuilding, recoding ourselves in a way that we've never had access to. Because the clarity, the precision and the power that comes from knowing who you are before. The world told you otherwise is nothing like it.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Nothing like it. So how do we get in contact with you? Tell us all of your social media handles.
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Karen Ward Ross
Thank you.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
After this, I know people are going to want to reach out. So how do we get in?
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Karen Ward Ross
Absolutely, yes. So I'm Karen Ward Ross across all my channels. And as you know, it's spelled differently, so it's Karen with the C, A, R, Y, N. Ward Ross. I love it. Because you can't say that fast, right? No, you can't slow it down. So you can find me on Instagram, on LinkedIn, send me a message. My emails are on my social profile. So, yeah, I'd love to connect. I'd love to hear what may have resonated or stirred up in you.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Yes, no, absolutely. I mean, I actually took notes here. I mean, you dropped so many gold nuggets. I have script writing and screenwriting, but not, as we know, in terms of productions, but in terms of our lives. Spot the lie. That was a big one. It's not where when the student is ready, the teacher will appear. Love that one. And then whisper. Like, whisper. You already know internally what's going on. And I just think in life in general, whether we're having these many collisions with people or experiences, it is that whisper that guides us.
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Karen Ward Ross
Absolutely, Absolutely. And just to clarify, and I have to remember who said the quote about when the teacher. When the student is ready, the teacher appears, because it's not mine. So I just want to attribute that, but I think I want to share this, Tamara, as we close out, that we have to remember that we upgrade our phones, we upgrade our computers, we upgrade all of our external technology. So now is the time to Upgrade that internal iOS. Is innovation operating seamlessly? You. That's who we are. Our stories.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
I mean, there's nothing else to be said at this point. What a way to end it. I feel so blessed, Karen, to have you on the show and everything that you're doing. Everyone out there, please, if you. If you have that whisper, if you want, look Karen up and her wonderful career and all of her accomplishments, but then how she's taking all of that and helping all of us through Reframe Studios. AI, it is truly a blessing and an honor to be able to talk to you and I really appreciate it and can't wait to further hear about the future.
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Karen Ward Ross
Thank you, Tamari. This was so delightful. I am so fulfilled and we've got more to do together, you and I. So this is just the beginning.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
Absolutely. It's just the beginning.
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Karen Ward Ross
I'm excited. Thank you for having me. I'm honored.
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Dr. Tamara Nalazani
And thank you for being on. All right, till next time, everyone. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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Dr. Tamara Nall
Thanks for tuning in to lead with AI I'll see you next time as we continue exploring, exploring the cutting edge innovations shaping AI across the public and private sectors. Until then, keep leading with AI.