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I was excited to add Dan Oaks to the presenter lineup for the Liberating Saints Virtual Summit because he, about a year ago, just returned as a mission president from the state of Washington. And I'm just intrigued by this. All that he's learned from, you know, working with missionaries so closely now, his. His day job, his career and profession is a therapist. And he's literally helped thousands of individuals, you know, overcome pornography. But just in the context of being a mission president, helping so many missionaries who've struggled with pornography in the past or are currently struggling with it on their mission. And so we had a great discussion, and here's a clip that I just thought this was a great point and really puts the struggle of pornography into context of why. What makes it so attractive? Like, maybe our biology is, like, well done. You know, it's a. It's a sexual desire and urge. Of course it's attractive as something that draws people in, but why does pornography usage get worse and worse the more that people use it? And he talks about that it really has nothing to do with nudity, but has everything to do with novelty. So here's a quick clip from the upcoming virtual summit, the Liberating Saints Virtual Summit. And this presentation with Dan Oaks makes it worth listening to altogether. So. So make sure you go to leadingsaints.org liberating to grab your free spot and join us on June 30th as we go through these presentations.
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Because the real issue is that the. The problem with porn is not nudity. It is novelty, right? We have a. We have a part of our brain right at the very top. Part of our brain is the part of our brain that's highly attuned to novelty. Now think about this like a. Think about it like a caveman. We. We need food to stay alive, and we need sexuality. Perpetuate our species, right? But the one thing our brain likes more than food and sexuality is novelty. Novel versions of those two. Why is that so. So here's the necessity of novelty. We need novelty to learn. For example, if I'm trying to teach my child the difference between a red color and a green color, a red crayon and a green crayon, and we're teaching colors. You have to have multiple colors. You can't just have one color to teach all the colors. You have to have the novel variation in order to learn. Novelty is a part of learning. It's how we learn. It's also associated with survival. If I'm a caveman and I'm. I'm gonna Go sit on the savannah. When I'm hungry, looking for food, what am I watching for? In my hunting mode, I'm looking for movement or color, right? So novelty is critical part of our survival that ends up getting manipulated by food companies, pornography companies, right? Because the novel view of it. Just the other day I was in Utah for a business thing and I was at Thanksgiving point, there was a, some kind of fair going on and booths everywhere and they had this candy truck set up and I walked up to candy truck and I'm thinking I'm going to buy some candy for my grandkids and take them home. So much, so much candy, I couldn't decide what candy to get. Maybe I should sample 20 of them, right? But, but novelty traps us a little bit, pulls us in because the problem with pornography is not the nudity, it is the novelty. There have been studies that show, right, that, that when people are exposed to nude images their arousal structures go up but within 45 seconds to a minute they come right back down, right? Because a static image doesn't maintain long term arousal. But if, if a person is on the Internet and they look at an image, right, they're, they, they, their energy will come up and the sexual energy will start to come down and, and they just click and get a brand new image. So it looks similar to the first image, but now it's a second image and the novelty piece of our brain kicks in and so now there's more dopamine and we can click and click and click and get new image, new image, new image, new image. And that is the mechanism that creates the excessive amount of dopamine in the brain is the novelty. So parents, lest you think it's about nudity, no, the accessibility is about high levels of novelty. And porn makers know this, right? They know exactly this. They're, they're engineering their websites and the marketing tools to utilize novelty to draw people in, right. To get that dopamine spike, right. The other tool that's used by pornography makers is what's called a super normal stimulant, right. Sometimes it's called the butterfly effect. And this, this really comes from I think a Dutch biologist, his name was Nico Timber and I, I think he won Nobel Prize for this. This is a really cool science. Listen to what Timber.
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All right, there's the clip. Thanks for listening a few minutes and again go grab your spot@leading saints.org Liberating maybe make sure you have your ticket to get your logged in on the app and are ready to consume the content starting Tuesday, June 30th. It's going to be fantastic and very educational.
Date: June 27, 2026
Featured Guest: Dan Oaks, Therapist & Former Mission President
Purpose: To help Latter-day Saint leaders understand the root causes of pornography's addictive qualities, offering relevant insights for supporting those who struggle.
This episode features a clip from therapist and former mission president Dan Oaks’ upcoming presentation at the Liberating Saints Virtual Summit. Drawing from both his professional experience and his time guiding missionaries, Oaks addresses why pornography is so compelling and addictive, challenging common misconceptions and reframing the conversation for those in leadership and support roles within the Latter-day Saint community.
Biological Drives:
Oaks explains that while humans need food and sexual expression for survival and reproduction, the brain is actually most attuned to novelty—a new twist or variation on these fundamental drives.
“The problem with porn is not nudity. It is novelty, right?”
— Dan Oaks, [01:29]
Novelty and Learning:
Novelty isn’t just a desire, but a neurological necessity; the brain requires new variations (e.g., different colors for learning) to learn and adapt. This drive for the new underpins both learning and survival.
Survival and Novelty:
Oaks illustrates, using a caveman analogy, that when searching for food (or facing danger), the brain looks for the novel—movement, new colors, changes—since these signal either opportunity or threat.
“Novelty is a critical part of our survival that ends up getting manipulated by food companies, pornography companies.”
— Dan Oaks, [02:51]
Manipulation by Industry:
Both food and pornography industries exploit this innate drive for novelty. For example, at a candy truck with dozens of choices, the abundance of novelty makes it hard to choose and tempts one to sample everything.
“So much, so much candy, I couldn't decide what candy to get. Maybe I should sample 20 of them, right?”
— Dan Oaks, [03:26]
Transient Arousal from Nudity Alone:
Studies show that arousal from a single nude image declines after 45 seconds to a minute. The sustained high of internet pornography use isn’t due to the nudity itself, but to the ease of switching to a new, slightly different image—feeding the need for novelty.
Dopamine Spikes:
Each novel image triggers a fresh dopamine release, creating a loop where users “click and click and click and get new image, new image, new image, new image.” This cycle is the true mechanism behind the excessive dopamine production linked to compulsive porn use.
“It is the novelty piece of our brain kicks in and so now there's more dopamine and we can click and click and click and get new image, new image, new image, new image. And that is the mechanism that creates the excessive amount of dopamine in the brain is the novelty.”
— Dan Oaks, [04:15]
It’s Not About Nudity:
Parents and leaders should reframe their understanding—it’s not nudity, but “high levels of novelty” that makes porn so captivating. Pornographic websites intentionally maximize this aspect.
Industry Design:
“They're engineering their websites and the marketing tools to utilize novelty to draw people in, right. To get that dopamine spike.”
— Dan Oaks, [04:50]
On Novelty Over Nudity:
“The problem with porn is not nudity. It is novelty, right?”
— Dan Oaks, [01:29]
On Survival and Manipulation:
“Novelty is a critical part of our survival that ends up getting manipulated by food companies, pornography companies.”
— Dan Oaks, [02:51]
On the Mechanism of Online Porn Use:
“It is the novelty piece of our brain kicks in and so now there's more dopamine and we can click and click and click and get new image, new image, new image, new image. And that is the mechanism that creates the excessive amount of dopamine in the brain is the novelty.”
— Dan Oaks, [04:15]
On Industry Design:
“They're engineering their websites and the marketing tools to utilize novelty to draw people in, right. To get that dopamine spike.”
— Dan Oaks, [04:50]
Oaks blends scientific insight with relatable analogies and a conversational tone, making complex concepts accessible. The discussion is practical, aimed at leaders and parents seeking to better understand and support individuals confronting pornography challenges—with a focus not on shame, but understanding underlying mechanisms.
This episode offers a compelling paradigm shift for Latter-day Saint leaders: the key to understanding and addressing pornography addiction lies in recognizing the brain’s unique vulnerability to novelty, not just sexual imagery. This insight suggests new approaches—focusing on education, empathy, and strategies that address novelty-seeking rather than solely moral exhortation or filters.