I'm joined by empowerment and business coach Sandra McIntosh, host of 90 Day Wins, @SandyB90DW for a pointed and heartfelt reflection on two powerful podcast conversations — Den of Kings and Just Heal — where men opened up about mental health, grief, faith, and healing.

Kirk Franklin hosted one podcast and was a guest on the other. Here are those conversations that inspired this Let's Start Healing episode:

Just Heal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95BwtFsaNMY&list=PL-NoYPoRM_guonMqvDd217EkqYYdND4VL&index=3

Den of Kings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeX11CYxq9w

Sandra — who has been married for 21 years — and myself, as a single woman, bring two different perspectives to what we heard and felt as men shared their emotional truths. (90 Day Wins Podcast https://www.youtube.com/@SandyB90DW)

We explore what it means to witness men being vulnerable — to hear them speak about the pressures they face, the pain they often carry quietly, and the courage it takes to express it. The conversation moves through themes of spirituality vs. religion, loss, healing, and the possibility of deeper understanding between men and women.

This isn't an expert discussion — it's an open-hearted reflection between two women listening, learning, and sometimes frustrated but always holding space for men's humanity.

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Ep. 187 After hearing men share what they go through — Two women reflect