Goldie Hawn Part 1: Is The Originator

Summary

Episode Summary: "Goldie Hawn Part 1: Is The Originator"

In this compelling first part of her interview series, Kelly Ripa engages in a heartfelt and unfiltered conversation with Hollywood legend Goldie Hawn. The episode delves into Goldie's illustrious career, personal experiences, family dynamics, and her impactful nonprofit work, providing listeners with a comprehensive look behind the scenes of her multifaceted life.

Introduction and Early Anecdotes

The episode kicks off with light-hearted banter between Kelly Ripa and her husband, Mark Consuelos, sharing amusing travel mishaps and their experiences navigating delayed flights. This sets a relatable and engaging tone for the conversation.

Goldie Hawn [02:00]: "And after it was over and I was backstage, my daddy was there and he was in tears."

This poignant moment highlights the deep emotional connections Goldie has with her family, setting the stage for more personal revelations.

Goldie Hawn’s Journey into Acting

Kelly introduces Goldie by highlighting her remarkable filmography, including iconic films such as Cactus Flower, Foul Play, Private Benjamin, Overboard, and The Christmas Chronicles. Goldie expresses pride in these roles and shares her passion for storytelling and performing.

Kelly Ripa [08:15]: "We're sitting down with the one and only Goldie Hawn."

Goldie recounts her transition from dancing to acting, emphasizing the discipline and resilience she developed through dance, which later fueled her acting career.

Life in Palm Desert and Personal Reflections

Goldie opens up about her life in Palm Desert, sharing both the joys and challenges of living in a serene yet secure environment. She discusses her and Kurt Russell's decision to move there, highlighting the importance of safety and community.

Goldie Hawn [11:27]: "I think we're living together and we thought, why not move together? And Palm Desert felt like the perfect place."

A particularly vulnerable moment comes when Goldie shares a harrowing experience of a break-in, underscoring her commitment to family safety and the profound impact it had on her sense of security.

Goldie Hawn [15:51]: "I've had a guard, yes. I've had a guard, especially when I'm alone now."

Balancing Family and Career

The conversation shifts to family dynamics, where Goldie and Kelly discuss parenting multiple children and maintaining strong familial bonds despite busy careers. Goldie emphasizes the importance of not having favorites and fostering equal love for all her children.

Goldie Hawn [22:08]: "Oliver. Katie thinks Oliver's my favorite... but the truth is honestly, we have so much love in our heart that you can't even measure it."

MindUP: Empowering Children’s Mental Health

A significant portion of the interview is dedicated to Goldie's nonprofit, MindUP. She passionately explains the mission behind the organization, which focuses on enhancing children's mental health through brain science and emotional management training. Goldie shares the profound impact MindUP has had on children, including reduced aggression and improved happiness.

Goldie Hawn [23:54]: "We teach children how to manage their emotions by understanding their own brains and feeling agency over their feelings."

Goldie highlights the critical role of early education in mental health, especially in the digital age where social media poses new challenges for children's well-being.

Challenges of Social Media and Mental Health

Goldie delves into the detrimental effects of social media on children's mental health, emphasizing the need for parental involvement and educational programs to mitigate these issues. She advocates for teaching children critical thinking and self-awareness to navigate the complexities of the digital world.

Goldie Hawn [28:17]: "Charity starts at home. You've got to teach and help your parents because you can have limits on it."

The Power of Community and Longevity

Drawing insights from the Blue Zones documentary, Goldie underscores the importance of community in fostering longevity and overall health. She contrasts modern societal isolation with the strong communal bonds observed in some of the world's healthiest populations.

Goldie Hawn [35:26]: "Community is the most important thing for longevity and for health."

Goldie shares personal reflections on the loss of friendships and the essential nature of social connections in maintaining mental and emotional well-being.

From Dance to Acting: Building Resilience

Goldie narrates her early experiences in dance and how they shaped her resilience and grit, which later translated into her acting career. She describes pivotal moments, such as her first acting roles and the critical acclaim she received from her family, which fueled her passion for performing.

Goldie Hawn [46:05]: "The workout we do when we're dancers creates grit that you don't get otherwise. I never gave up."

Personal Reflections and Overcoming Challenges

Throughout the interview, Goldie shares deeply personal stories, including her first performance of Juliet’s potion speech that moved her father to tears, solidifying her path in acting. She reflects on overcoming self-doubt and the unwavering support from her family that propelled her forward.

Goldie Hawn [51:19]: "It really does. It does."

Conclusion and Teaser for Part Two

As the episode draws to a close, Kelly Ripa teases the next part of the interview, promising to explore more about Goldie's behind-the-scenes experiences, her reputation in Hollywood, and exciting upcoming projects.

Kelly Ripa [53:09]: "Listeners next week you'll hear part two of this amazing interview with Goldie Hawn..."

Final Thoughts

This first part of Kelly Ripa’s interview with Goldie Hawn offers an intimate glimpse into Goldie’s life, her dedication to improving children’s mental health, and the values that sustain her personal and professional endeavors. Listeners are left eagerly anticipating the continuation of this enriching conversation in the next episode.

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Notable Quotes:

• Goldie Hawn [02:00]: "And after it was over and I was backstage, my daddy was there and he was in tears."

• Goldie Hawn [23:54]: "We teach children how to manage their emotions by understanding their own brains and feeling agency over their feelings."

• Goldie Hawn [35:26]: "Community is the most important thing for longevity and for health."

• Goldie Hawn [46:05]: "The workout we do when we're dancers creates grit that you don't get otherwise. I never gave up."

• Goldie Hawn [51:19]: "It really does. It does."

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This detailed summary captures the essence of the “Goldie Hawn Part 1: Is The Originator” episode, highlighting key discussions, insights, and memorable moments that showcase Goldie Hawn’s multifaceted life and impactful work.

Transcript

[Kelly Ripa]

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[Goldie Hawn]

And after it was over and I was backstage, my daddy was there and he was in tears.

[Kelly Ripa]

Wow.

[Goldie Hawn]

And he said, where did you learn to do that? And I think of all the compliments I've ever received in my life, that that was the most important one.

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, wow. Somebody gotta cue me or do I cue myself? Cue yourself. Okay. Hey, everyone. We're back with another episode of season two of let's Talk off camera. So let's get talk. Seth. Oh, how was eataly?

[Mark Consuelos]

I've had the pleasure of hearing your Mark travel stories for almost 20 years now, and now I don't need any.

[Kelly Ripa]

More of your stuff. Thank you so much. Do I. I have my own. So do I exaggerate? Would you say it all?

[Mark Consuelos]

What can be said about traveling with Mark that hasn't already been said about traveling with Mark? Yeah, it's a good time.

[Kelly Ripa]

Did you vow to never do it again?

[Mark Consuelos]

I did not.

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, okay.

[Mark Consuelos]

I did not.

[Kelly Ripa]

That's good.

[Goldie Hawn]

Okay.

[Mark Consuelos]

One highlight is when our flight was.

[Kelly Ripa]

Delayed for three hours. Four. Okay. I would say Mark got you there seven hours early because if it's an international flight, he wants to be there. They say be there two hours early. And Mark would say, well, it's Italy, so we have to add two hours onto that. So were you there for eight hours?

[Mark Consuelos]

We weren't there for eight hours. Our initial departure time was 7:15.

[Kelly Ripa]

Okay.

[Mark Consuelos]

When our flight was delayed four hours, we moved our departure time to eight.

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, my Lord. Oh, my. I would die. In his defense, though, they could move it back out.

[Goldie Hawn]

You are.

[Kelly Ripa]

It's possible for the flight time to get moved out.

[Goldie Hawn]

No, it's not.

[Mark Consuelos]

I never heard of that.

[Kelly Ripa]

I've never heard that.

[Mark Consuelos]

That's exactly what he said.

[Goldie Hawn]

He said that.

[Mark Consuelos]

He's like, you've heard of that, right?

[Kelly Ripa]

No, I haven't. And it's Italy and it's United. So I would have been like, we're not leaving here until one hour before the alleged departure time. 45 minute delay for a four hour delay. Yeah, yeah.

[Goldie Hawn]

What'd you do at the airport that long?

[Mark Consuelos]

We sat, we talked, we chatted, we ate. I. I think I got to poop twice.

[Kelly Ripa]

Did you poop twice? That's very good. That's an amazing thing to poop before you get on the plane twice. I always get lucky and I get to use the bathroom after the person on the plane that just pooped. Always. It is. It never fails. As soon as that seatbelt sign goes off, I am like Houdini and I spring out of my seat and then some fucking guy always somehow slithers in in front of me and I'm like, come on, I'm just gonna go number one, I swear. And he's the smelly one, you know, and he just gets comfortable in there. He goes in with his flight magazine. You're like, oh, my God. Sky mall. Oh my God, not sky. That was so exciting.

[Mark Consuelos]

He didn't get injured though. And he checked a bag. Did he tell you that?

[Goldie Hawn]

What?

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, he called me from the airport because I was like, what time are you coming home? Because I'm waiting for you to have dinner. And he's like. Because he goes, I landed, babe. So I'm like, okay, 45 minutes. He should be home. I'll give him an hour. And he goes, well, I'm at baggage claim. And I said, oh, did you say baggage? Mark said, baggage claim. Baggage claim. This is the same man that made me go to Africa for a four day wedding with gowns. Gowns and formal wear and because Tangier is every temperature under the sun all at the Same time I needed jackets and coats and jeans and sweaters and rain gear. And I had to origami fold everything into the bag and then take it and shove it into the overhead compartment. No baggage claim for you? No baggage claim for me. But now Mark goes to Italy with Seth. With Seth. And I guess he wanted to look nice. I was like, I always look at him. I go, how much space could your three black skin tight T shirts take? Did you check your bag?

[Mark Consuelos]

No. Because I'm a professional. I've had years of training that have got me to a level that I think. I think Mark found agreeable. Initially, it was simpatico, which was good.

[Kelly Ripa]

Me too.

[Mark Consuelos]

But I was surprised that he checked the bag.

[Goldie Hawn]

I was surprised.

[Kelly Ripa]

I'm shocked. Well, congrats. Team moved up. That's amazing. Thank you. Big deal. Soccer owner. Steady. A C. Study a cheat. Study of cheat. Cheat. Study a cheat. She. Wait. We forgot to talk about Mark's affair. It's my favorite story I ever heard in my life. That was brilliant. Especially the fact that a. The fact that he's kissing plexiglass. You have to explain it a little bit. So Mark wins this championship. There's a woman on the other side of the plexiglass fence. I guess for the safety of the players and the safety of the spectators, they separate them by plexiglass. It gets wild in Italy. It gets really wild. They take their football seriously there. And by football, I mean soccer. And. And so he said he locked eyes with this woman and he said she was like, maybe our aunt's age. And I was like, now I know Mark. I know Mark really well. So if he means our aunt's age, he means our cousin's age. No? Oh, yes. Yeah, I know him. I know him like the back of my hand. But when he said, this is the thing that got me, when he's like, I just got carried away in the moment. And I closed my eyes and I was like, you closed your eyes? This man has made out with me. And I. And I will somehow like open my eyes and I see him staring and I'm like, can you not have your eyes open? I find that very freaky. I think it's funny that he was kissing the germophone. It's like kissing plexiglass where those athletes crotches just were. By the way, she's ready.

[Goldie Hawn]

She's ready.

[Kelly Ripa]

Guys, I want you to prepare yourselves, okay? Or as my father in law would say, preparate. Today we are joined by Hollywood icon, trailblazer, and Academy Award winner, Goldie Hawn. It's so funny. I was reading through her many films and I cannot think of one I didn't love. Cactus Flower, which she won the Academy Award for Foul Play, which I forgot how much I loved that movie Private Benjamin, which is so good and so funny and holds like all of these movies. Hold up. Wildcats. Protocol. Overboard. Overboard is. Oh, my gosh, I could watch it a thousand times. Death Becomes Her First Wives Club, and of course, the Christmas Chronicles. Yes. She's also a producer, New York Times best selling author, the founder of the nonprofit Mind up, which I definitely want to talk to her about. So let's just get to it. Wait, let me put my headphones on. Oh, my gosh. I'm so. I'm so besotted. I love you so much. I forgot to put my headphones on.

[Goldie Hawn]

Oh, no. My headphones, by the way, are squeezing my brain. I don't know what I did. I bought them. I thought they were like, so great and they were expensive and it's like, oh, you know, whatever. So I just put them on and I said I might have to take an Advil in the middle of this.

[Kelly Ripa]

Because squeezing my brain, these two. This is why I do a one sided one so only one half of my brain gets squeezed. And then for the next podcast, I squ. I switch sides so I have like one side of my head that hurts at a time.

[Goldie Hawn]

That's. That's. That's perfect.

[Kelly Ripa]

Okay, so while. While. While you were waiting for us, the reason we kept you waiting is because I was reading your bio, which is one of the greatest bios of all time. You have done everything. You came up in the industry during a time where I suspect, and I know from your daughter, because during season one, she filled me in a little bit on some of the bullshit you had to deal with along the way. But before we get into any of that, I want to talk. I want to talk Palm Desert, because let's do it.

[Goldie Hawn]

Let's do it.

[Kelly Ripa]

Is that where you are right now?

[Goldie Hawn]

Not now. We came in yesterday and it was. I was there. We have a house there. We've had a house there for 19 years. And it's so. I can't explain it. I mean, no wonder, you know, all the great seers moved to the desert to get, you know, sort of awareness and enlightenment and it's amazing, honey. And it just. I love my house. I love it. I created a new swimming pool that looks like sort of a lagoon and I can float around in it. And you know, it feels a little bit sad in a way, because I'm. I'm guilty. I'm always guilty because I think I have so much and there's so many people that have so little. But it does give me peace. And that's one of the things that I think we all need, is that sense of peace.

[Kelly Ripa]

So Mark and I just went to Palm Springs on vacation and we spent two whole weeks there and we fell in love with it. And I met this couple and they said they had just moved to Palm Springs from Palm Beach. And I started laughing and I said, so you only move to places with the word palm in the title? And they said, you know, Palm beach is where people go to die and Palm Springs is where people come to live.

[Goldie Hawn]

That is very, very funny because I have a funny story. So Kurt, I was there, I was living in Vancouver at the time, and I think my son, I was worried because he was playing hockey and everything was wet and it was cold and it was ding and it was raining outside. And I said, you know, I'm taking him to Palm Springs. We have to dry out. That's it. We ended up going there and got a place. And then I went and met my girlfriend, who's a golfer and she's a really was really good friend of mine, my best friend. And I sat with her at the Pizza Kitchen, California Pizza Kitchen. I said, you know, I wonder if there's any houses for sale here. She said, well, you're definitely. There's houses in Bighorn. It's amazing as just up the road. So I went up the road, I got a realtor, I got very into it. I said, oh my God, I love it here. Stop. Full stop. And I found a house and I thought this was great. And the price was right. It wasn't huge, it wasn't, you know, whatever, but it was there and there was on a golf course. So I told Kurt, I said, honey, I found this house. You're going to go crazy. I know, but I just, I really want you to see it. I mean, it's really great. So he came with me and I believe it was. Might have been Mother's Day or something was. And we drove up and on the way there, which was literally we were in Palm Desert, there was an elderly couple that was driving about 20 miles an hour in about a 40 mile an hour zone. And we.

[Kelly Ripa]

Was it us, was it Mark and me.

[Goldie Hawn]

But Kurt said to me, oh God, I know you're bringing me here to die.

[Kelly Ripa]

No, but how much does he love It.

[Goldie Hawn]

Love, love, love, love. Yes, completely. We're so happy there. We actually thought, what if we, like, couldn't live in la, where would we live? And we both decided, I think it's Palm Desert. I mean, it turned out that the big robberies that are going on here, there was one that happened right on El Paseo, which is. There's no traffic. It's so great. It's so safe. And do you know, they caught them in three minutes that literally they didn't get far. And I thought, well, that's the kind of town I want to live in. I mean, really. It's just because LA is terrible. I mean, we were robbed once.

[Kelly Ripa]

You're kidding.

[Goldie Hawn]

No, I mean, we went to. We went out, went to dinner. You know, we went to have dinner together and we were gone maybe 2 hours and 20 minutes or something. We came back and then went in the house and, you know, I saw this thing was on, like, Mutiny and the Bounty, which I can't believe I remember what I was watching. But anyway, and I said, honey, I think I'm going to go to bed. And like he says every night now. So I went. I went up to the stairs and whatever, and I walked into my closet and I just lost it. They had broken in from the balcony to our bedroom, our closets, and they completely knocked down my door, which is a safe door. So they're very, very sophisticated. And they. They got, you know, a lot of my. My goodies, if you know what I mean. And so I'm thinking, oh, my God. Well, the chances are. I guess that's it. I mean, it's got to be. The odds are that's not going to happen again. And just about. It's going to be about four months now. I'm in the house by myself. It's the dog. And I hear this big thump upstairs. And I was alone. Kurt wasn't there. And I went, what the hell was that? It was just like. It was that a sonic boom? Did somebody jump somewhere? I mean. And as it turned out, the next day we discovered that they were trying to get in my bedroom. So they. While I was in the house.

[Kelly Ripa]

That's terrifying.

[Goldie Hawn]

Tell me about it. I mean, I couldn't believe it. What. What is happening here?

[Kelly Ripa]

Do you have guards now?

[Goldie Hawn]

I've had a guard, yes. I've had a guard, especially when I'm alone now. I don't. I don't ever without a guard. We have a nice relationship with our guard. And you feel good. You feel good, you know, and safe.

[Kelly Ripa]

Especially if you're alone, I feel like, you know, because like, like you and Kurt, Mark and I have oftentimes lived in separate places much of our marriage. And every time he's away, the good news is I was always in New York City, so I always felt safe.

[Goldie Hawn]

Exactly. I've got Katie down the street. I've got Oliver down the street. I have my son, Boston. And Wyatt is now making a movie in Atlanta and he's got the kids there, so we're leaving to go see them in a few days because I can't be without the grandchildren, I mean, and I have a new one, so I have a two month old and they are moving to this place and it's so lovely there. I said, hey guys, why don't we just all move there? I mean, because we all said if we one moves, we all have to move together. That's what we've always said. And we thought, why was I not.

[Kelly Ripa]

Born into this family? Why? What, what the hell happened in my life? There's still time. What about sisters? Do you take sisters with you?

[Goldie Hawn]

I don't know. But wouldn't it be great to have like just a. We always dreamed that we could buy a lot of land and that everybody would have their own, you know, amount of space, a lot of it, and we could do that in Aspen and we could all live within proximity of each other. It was our dream really, to have a family compound like that because we, we all get along, but we would do them farther enough houses farther away from each other.

[Kelly Ripa]

Right.

[Goldie Hawn]

And we get tired of each other, but we sort of, we kind of have that now. I mean, I could walk to Kate's house. You know, we're really close.

[Kelly Ripa]

So funny you mentioned Kate and, you know, she was one of the first people to do this podcast in season one. And every, every word you're saying, every expression you have, and I know, I know that you are the originator of the expressions, but it is to me, I. It's. The two of you are so similar in your mannerisms and in your speech patterns and your voice. It's just very funny. To me, it is.

[Goldie Hawn]

Sometimes I think that it's me talking. If I can't see it, I can walk away. And I, I. And there are just certain ways and certain things and, you know, I remember Katie when she was very, very young and she was just starting out, she said, mommy, they always ask about you and all this stuff. And I said, well, yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm your mother. I mean, what, what are you going to do about it, right? I said. And the truth of the matter is we have to embrace each other. It's all the way it is. I mean, yes, you're going to talk about me and one day I'm going to talk about you and I'm going to be Katie's mother. And that could be pretty cool, right? So that's what happened.

[Kelly Ripa]

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[Goldie Hawn]

Yes, Oliver. Katie thinks Oliver's my favorite. And you know, and I tried to say to her, you know, nobody's really my favorite. It's, you can't, you're all different. But the truth is honestly, and you will know this, and she just wrote a song about it. Writer. So we're first born is always one of the most interesting and memorable experiences, particularly because you don't have other children. You only have one until you have the second one, if that's what you're going to do. And that's what happened. And I thought, how am I ever going to love another child the way I love my firstborn? And you know what I was the answer came when Katie was born. And that is, is that you have, we have so much love in our heart that you can't, you just can't even measure it. So it's, that's what happened. So we can love many things.

[Kelly Ripa]

And it's so true. And when my kids with my kids, and this is a good one for you to use at your next dinner with them when they say, be honest, Oliver's your favorite, or be honest, Katie's your favorite, or be honest, you know, all you have to say is, I don't have favorites right now. I only have least favorites.

[Goldie Hawn]

That's so good.

[Kelly Ripa]

It always gets them right off the topic because, yeah, I just have least favorites right now. Nobody wants to be the least favorite. They just want confirmation on who the favorite is.

[Goldie Hawn]

Exactly.

[Kelly Ripa]

So before you logged on, we mentioned your nonprofit mind up. Can you tell me about it and explain it to our listeners?

[Goldie Hawn]

Yes, I would love to. You know, my whole world started out teaching children how to dance. And it also started out believing that the one thing that I wanted to be, not do, but be, was happy. And this happened when I was, you know, around 10, 11, 12. I don't remember exactly, but they'd asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up and what not, what I wanted to do. So I wanted to be happy. Well, as time goes by, you know, all this stuff happened to me and I, I learned that I, I was completely would have attracted to children number one. Number two, I went off and I became the dancer and so forth. And now when I was, I don't know, this could have been 25 years ago now, I decided while I was working and I had my office and everything that I was going to produce basically a reality show which weren't really happening then on happiness. And so I was creating something called Around In Search of Joy around the world. And while we were doing it and developing it and so forth, 911 happened. So it was all around this time period. And I took mind up with all that I learned from happiness, neurologically understanding how these things work. And I was so disturbed by the fact that these buildings were falling in New York City. Our children were having anxiety, the world changed forever. And I think that's really a very seminal moment of when the world actually shifted and what we felt unstable and unsure and so forth. So I created this when I moved to Vancouver is where I went after 911 and actually gave me time to do a lot of meditation, working with understanding what was coming up for me as I was meditating. And a lot of it was really about what do I really want to do. What I have been working in movies for a long time, I've done great. I had a great, great, great run. And for me I just wanted to ask the bigger question, which is what's next and what's next for me and what do I care about? And all I could think of of were the children. And then I started recognizing through my research that children 8 years old, 10 years old all the way to 15 was the third leading cause of death, suicide. And that's when I became completely engaged. It's when I had the calling to do this. And I started really creating everything that I knew about brain science that was applicable for a child to understand how to manage their emotions by being able to have more context to their own brain and to feel agency over how they're going to be able to learn and create some quiet in them and understand what that feeling feels like at a very young age because it's quite beautiful. And where children actually are most accepting is when they are young. So developing mind developing brain is very important, I think, to start looking at how do we train because everything that we feed our brain is what the brain develop, how the brain develops. So this is why I started mindup. I started in Vancouver, British Columbia and, and I researched it as soon as I, soon as we went out and I wanted to know if this thing worked well. The research was so strong. The woman that researched at University of British Columbia said, I've never seen any research like, like this ever work in this fashion. 12 weeks of this for kids. Turns out that we had tremendous numbers of regression. I mean, aggression on the playground went down. Kids worked better in the classroom. 83% said they could now make themselves happier, which of course you can imagine made me cry because all I wanted was for our children to experience more happiness and people, which is what I did while I was doing the, you know, the documentary in search of Joy around the world. Don't lose that feeling. Children have it naturally, but when they're killing themselves, they're not having joy. How do we put this in the classroom and call it a preventative mental health program? So that's the story. And I'm still going 20 years.

[Kelly Ripa]

I would assume that now with the advent of social media, the explosion of the devices in the hand at all times, you know, back in the day, if you wanted to bully someone, it either happened during lunch break on the playground, or somebody would call you at home and invite you to the cemetery at noon for a good old fashioned beatdown. Nowadays, social media sort of makes it so that kids are not just able to have access to one another 24 7, but also access to all kids all over the world. And now they're comparing themselves to people who they think are happier than them, who they think live better lives than they do. So what kind of a challenge does that present when you are trying to shape the mental health of kids?

[Goldie Hawn]

It's very hard. You know, charity starts at home, right? You've got to teach and help your parents because you can have limits on it. And also I think there's a communication between your parents and you and the child that needs to understand the danger of being addicted, because that's really what it is. They do all kinds of things to addict them to come back. And also the one thing that we want them to be is have good critical thinking. And one of these. Sometimes these kids just put their phones down, they do it themselves, they, you know, create groups. There's becoming more of an awareness to it. But honey, it's so hard because it's sort of that avalanche that happened that took the innocence away from our children and Took the intimacy away from our children and our parents. So this is one of the areas that I think is very, very hard. I think they should always put their phones at school in a bag, put them away and gab more stringent rules around that, at least in that way. But other than that, building esteem, building understanding of self awareness, and teaching them things in what we're doing, which is having their understanding of what happens to their own brain when they're feeling angry and when they feel hurt and how they learn to breathe and focus because they realize that what happens when we're basically inflamed, scat. Feeling bad, not as good as somebody else. All these feelings, which we call negative feelings, very negative, is that there's a way to actually have more agency over how to turn your prefrontal cortex backs on so I can make a correct decision. And these are science, but it's also basically not just tips. They are exercises. They are practices that we can do in the classroom that ultimately you can default more toward higher thinking. But you're not wrong. And this is part of the problem that has happened to our children today.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah. And I think that the busier parents get and the more, you know, life is hard for many, many families out there. There's a lot of working parents working outside of the house, taking on extra jobs to make ends meet. And sometimes the default setting is to allow kids screen time or social media just as a distraction from the fact that maybe they're not having dinner together. And so it's such a difficult bridge to gap between the parents and the kids and work and stress. And so I'm glad that it's in the classroom because I think it's the most effective way to get messages into kids is really in the classroom.

[Goldie Hawn]

It definitely is. I mean, I think every. Every classroom should have a mental health preventative program. We're preventing some of these things by giving these children much more awareness of their own basic fitness. So brain fitness is important. We talk a lot about that and we teach a lot about that. So I think, you know, you're trying to catch, you know, lightning bugs in a jar where you can't. You can't really control it. And it's very difficult, but it's. It's really about how do we control ourselves? And that idea is, how do we actually navigate our day? And with that, we know that we. We can. The negative effects that we have of stress is very palpable. And there are things that you can do if you want to calm down, if you Want to breathe. If you want to find a little time for yourself. I'm going to be writing another book on this. But it's very important that we start looking at. We can't look at television. Yes, get your news and get off. Because everywhere I look it's unbelievable. The headlines are shocking. I mean it's like this one killed themselves, that one. But up three crashes and whatever. I mean this isn't just about the wars that are just devastating. So we are, we have to look inward because the more we look outward, the sadder we get and we can't, we cannot control it. I mean it's just, it's, it's, it's looking at a societies because no one is connected, no one is talking to each other. If you don't believe what another person believes and, and you like this candidate and I like that and there's an independent. All this political stuff, I mean it's creating divorces, you're losing your best friends. I mean we're really in trouble when we start looking at that over our inward connection to self.

[Kelly Ripa]

You know, we were saying that we've been watching this documentary on the blue zones. The blue zones across the world, you know.

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah, he's great.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah, it's, it's so, it's fascinating because each society is so different. Their diets are different, what they do for exercise is different, what their religions are, are different. But what I find the most interesting is that the one commonality is that they all have community. They all socialize with one another. They have a community environment like we used to have before all of the 24 hour news cycle, before the news alerts on the phone, before social media, before they gather and talk to each other and look out for one another. And that's really, I think because there's such diverse places and diverse cultures and different food sources and different energy sources. But the one commonality they all have is a sense of community.

[Goldie Hawn]

That is the most important thing for longevity and for health. And what's happening now, you know, in opposition to what your beautiful things that you're saying is that people have lost their community.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah.

[Goldie Hawn]

They've lost the trust in people. They don't have that cushion. You don't have that person you go have coffee with. Did you ever read the book Ikigai?

[Kelly Ripa]

No.

[Goldie Hawn]

It's very good. It's a Japanese way of life and it's amazing. And it's what we're talking about. Every morning you go out and you meet the people, you walk, you have tea with them, you sit with them. It's a very important elixir for health and happiness. And I know that for myself because even I can feel lonely sometimes. And I say that because I've got gorgeous children and that sort of thing, but I lost three friends in about four years and they were my best friends. So when you lose that kind of thing in your life, you, you know, you make up for it. You find new friends. And I'm not never with somebody who had a gaggle of girlfriends. Even in school. I like, you know, I like my selective.

[Kelly Ripa]

You're smaller group.

[Goldie Hawn]

Exactly.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah.

[Goldie Hawn]

And that was just a shocker to me. So, yes, there is loneliness. There can be, but there are ways actually to tackle that. That and because I don't know if you don't have anybody to talk to or friends, especially if you're feeling scared, sad, angry, anxious, all those things, you, you need to have each other. We need each other. And I remember when I was little, I mean, we never locked our door. We always entertained ourselves. We had such a great childhood and we didn't have anything, we didn't have any money. You know, daddy was a musician. He worked at night and did watches by day and repaired them, rather. But it wasn't about that. It was about the fact that, yeah, I lived in a duplex house. It was my home, it was my castle. It was everything to me. I think that we just had each other and our friends lived down the street and life was kind of great, man. And now when I look back on that, I think, my God, you know, I mean, yes, we had issues definitely to deal with back then, but nothing like what we're dealing with today. It's insurmountable, really. So, you know, here's the problem, and I think you're the same, is that we're those kind of women. But I'm looking at solving a problem. I want to solve a problem. I don't want to keep talking about.

[Kelly Ripa]

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[Goldie Hawn]

So, you know, here's the problem, and I think you're the same is that we're those kind of women. But I'm looking at solving a problem. I want to solve a problem. I don't want to keep talking about.

[Kelly Ripa]

It, I swear to God. Have you always been this smart? You know, it's so funny and I always, I say it all the time. Actors are always undervalued for their minds. It's really tricky and you have to, you have to have the highest level of intelligence to be able to interpret scripts and portray other people. But it's a skill set that everybody thinks is so easy and everybody can do. But you have to be a really deep thinker. And I want to know how old were you when you started thinking deeply? Because I always say I was born a 50 year old. So when I finally turned 50, it was not that big of a shock to my system. So I want to know, like, what age do you think you were born?

[Goldie Hawn]

Oh, that's really interesting. All I can say is that I was pretty old when I was born, right? In other words, I feel like I went and did things that were unusually what I would call grounded in my thinking. And I remember when I was in Vegas and I was dancing there and I was just 21 and there's a man there that was trying to put stuff on me and all this stuff. And I was very straight and he was very nasty because I wasn't going to give him anything. And then he just was really nasty with me. And I remember Going, driving back to the desert, my house, that little place I was staying in. And I was dancing there at the Desert Inn, by the way. And that's. I kept thinking how sad I felt for him.

[Kelly Ripa]

For him.

[Goldie Hawn]

My whole, whole idea was the poor guy. It wasn't poor me. And then when I was in third grade, I had a teacher, Mrs. Toomey, and she gave this speech to everybody about how on the talent show. And of course I was in the talent show. I was a dancer and I used to make up my dances and stuff, and I was improvising and all this stuff. And she said, now everybody, boys and girls, I want you all to be perfect. I want you to do, to know and learn your thing and blah, blah, blah. And I went home to my mom and I said, mommy, I'm not going to be in the talent show. And she said, what? What are you talking about? I said, I'm not going to be in the talent show. Mrs. Toomey said that I had to be perfect. I said, and I'm not perfect, so I don't want to be in the talent show because I'm not perfect. So this is. I ended up being in the talent show. My mother, of course, stomped into school and saying, what are you saying? These kids have to be perfect. But it was like that. And then I remember in second grade when I had to color things, the colors of fruit, I colored them all yellow. And she said, goldie, you know that, you know, this is green. The apple is there, the grape is purple. Oh, I said, oh, I know that. I just like yellow. So the point is, is that I knew then things that I don't know how I knew. I don't know how I was able to move through some of the sort of the challenges that I went through with what I would consider a balanced mind and like that. So I was able to think through things. I think I was probably pretty old.

[Kelly Ripa]

When I was born because I want to go back, you know, to the guy in Las Vegas, you just telling me that story. I want to go find him and murder him. So that's where you and I are like slightly different. Because you felt bad for him. And I'm so in. I'm still in a rage. And Mrs. Toomey of the Tumi Luggage dynasty should definitely not be crushing kids dreams. But do you think that your grit, your internal fortitude that you obviously have, did your dancing help with that? Because I always say the toughest people I know all have dance backgrounds.

[Goldie Hawn]

It's very interesting. I agree with you. And I think part of my mindfulness practice has a lot to do with my dancing. I started at 3 years old. And when your brain actually can know what your body's doing, and you understand that your brain has to, first of all, tell the body to lift your leg and tell your body to stand up or tell your body to do this, you are in control of your thinking and your body. And it's a focused attention thing. It's. How do you hold your balance? How do you hold your leg up very, very high and hold it there? These are things that you have to think very strong in order to keep that foot way up there, that leg up there. So the workout that we do when we're dancers is really creates grit. It creates much more grit than if you don't have to do anything. Now, there's definitely our athletes, definitely our gymnasts. This is not just dance, but it's starting young to train your mind and your body not to give up. And I think I never gave up. Not only when I hit all these hard times, I didn't run home to mom and dad. I didn't do it. I just kept pushing forward with a feeling of optimism and knowing that I could always fall back on my dancing, teach dancing. I always felt that I had that craft. But it's so true about fortitude. And I think the dancing had a tremendous amount to do with that.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah, I agree. And I feel like dancing should be one of those things that they offer in schools, the way they offer reading and math. I feel like there should be dancing also as a subject.

[Goldie Hawn]

I do, too. I really do. I mean, this is like. And let me just talk about drugs and dance, okay? I'm never a druggie. I. All through all my years, because the greatest high was dancing to music, was literally, I used to call it, just moving molecules through the air and dancing with them. Because the joy, the feeling of, you know, your body's strong. You're. You're feeling in your. In your. You feel like you're inside of your own body, inside of your own mind. And when you're dancing to music that is inspiring to you, whether it's ballet or jazz or rock or whatever, you are flying. Your heart is just so joyful. And. And how would. Why would I want to take a drug to make me feel better than that? And it's a palpable visceral experience. So anyway, I also credit the fact that I wasn't anybody who wanted to rework my mind by some substance that could evidently take Away my sense of belonging, joy, happiness. I don't know what those things actually do to your brain after a time. But anyway, so that's.

[Kelly Ripa]

It can't be good. Yeah, I don't think anything good. How did you transition? Like, take me from the transition process from the dancing into the acting?

[Goldie Hawn]

Well, my backstory really is. I mean, I was always a dancer and I was in a school plays, so.

[Kelly Ripa]

Okay.

[Goldie Hawn]

And I had these different, you know, characters, but not a lot, you know, and. But I would. We would do that. So I was very interested, obviously, in the arts. I then went for my first time away from home was my summer stock. And I was a dancer, and I was called as a dancer, and that was for the Common Glory. And it was about the signing of the Declaration of Independence where we were doing ballet as well. But it was very interesting. And it was in Williamsburg, Virginia. Right. So it was so cool. But what A lot of the people that came from there were Catholic University, and they were all acting students as classical acting, you know, all the classics, the Shakespeare and all of those kind of plays. And I found out that they were doing Romeo and Juliet, and that was one of the. The plays they were doing. And I just out of high school, in fact, I never graduated because I had to go to do the Common Glory. So I never was active in actually taking my diploma. And I decided that I wanted to play Juliet and I practiced it and I learned the potion speech and I went for the audition and I was the. I was the giggly girl. I mean, literally, I was happy all the time. And it was a time for when you're like hip huggers and bell bottoms and, you know, and I was sort of the quintessential dancer and having fun. But I then did the speech and, you know, I'll never forget this, but there were all these girls there from Catholic University, very, very accomplished and classical theater. And I started the potion speech and I noticed that everything got really quiet. And these girls that were looking at me with, oh, isn't she adorable? Were absolutely in shock. Okay.

[Kelly Ripa]

Wow.

[Goldie Hawn]

And that was that. And then I found out that I got the part. Wow. So when I did Juliet and all these kids, there were 3,000 people in the amphitheater there, and no microphones or anything. And then I started the potion speech and it started to rain, and it was an amphitheater and the rain started dripping, dripping, dripping. And I'm thinking, oh, what should I do? Should I stop? Should I go on? Should I keep doing the potion speech about how I'M going to kill myself. And this, you know, Juliet. And. And nobody moved. Nobody left their seat. It wasn't a downpour. It was just a sprinkle of rain that just kept coming, kept coming. And after it was over, and I was backstage, my daddy was there, and he was a tough one, but Daddy came up to me and he was in tears and he said, hey, go. Where did you learn to do that?

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, wow.

[Goldie Hawn]

And I think of all the compliments I've ever received in my life, that that was the most important one. He didn't say I was great. He didn't say, you know, whatever. He just said, where did you learn to do that?

[Kelly Ripa]

That's an amazing compliment.

[Goldie Hawn]

It's huge.

[Kelly Ripa]

Especially when you have a tough critic. Like I have a. My father is also a tough critic. When you have a tough critic in the family and they say something like that to you, that actually really means something.

[Goldie Hawn]

It really does. It does. So that's where I started, really acting. And then I went to a theater. I did Infernous. This is very funny. It was an Inferno Playhouse or whatever in Washington D.C. which is where I was from. And I got the part of Josepha in Shot in the Dark. And it was like a neighborhood playhouse, but it was very legit. And I played that. That was something that Peter Sellers made a movie, Shot in the Dark. Anyway, but people were laughing and. And it was. It's a comedy, right? Yeah, but people were laughing and I thought, oh, that's cool. Oh, my God. In my own mind, thinking, oh, they're laughing so great. So I go backstage and my mother comes back and she says, you know, I don't think you're funny.

[Kelly Ripa]

So my mother.

[Goldie Hawn]

Now listen, my mother is so great. She was so great. And she. She told the truth. And I said to Mom, I said, mommy, I don't think I'm funny either. I mean, I really don't. I never thought I was funny. I never thought that I was going to be a comedian. I mean, I just did Romeo and Juliet. People were crying. I thought, well, I don't. You know, who knew what I was going to become? And I remember being in this old rooming house there in Williamsburg, Virginia, all by myself. Daddy left, mom left, dropped me off, and there I was. And I remember looking up at the ceiling and this coffered ceiling and thinking, I wonder what's going to happen to me. I wonder where I'm going to go in this life.

[Kelly Ripa]

Wow.

[Goldie Hawn]

So we don't know anything, which is sort of a good thing.

[Kelly Ripa]

Listeners Next week you'll hear part two of this amazing interview with Goldie Hawn when we talk about the behind the scenes of many of her biggest roles, her Hollywood reputation, her favorite co stars and the reality show we are pitching about her family. It's so good. I can't wait for y' all to hear it next week. Bye bye. Let's Talk Off Camera with Kelly Ripa is a production of Malojo Productions with help from Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is Follow Me from apm Music from Malojo. Our team is Kelly Ripa, Mark Consuelos, Albert Bianchini, Jan Shalet, Devin Schneider, Michael Halpern, Jacob Small, Roz Therian, Seth Gronquist and Julia Desch. From Goat Rodeo. Our team is Kara Schillin, Megan Nadolsky, Max Johnston, Isabel Kirby McGowan and Rebecca Seidel. Additional sound design by Terence Bernardo. This show is powered by Stitcher. Have you ever noticed how celebrities have brighter, whiter looking eyes? Their makeup artists have a little secret in their kit. Lumify Redness Reliever Eye Drops Lumify dramatically reduces redness in just one minute. It literally happens right before your eyes. It helps your eyes look brighter, whiter and more awake for up to eight hours. No wonder Lumify is so loved by influencers, celebrities and makeup artists and has over 6,000 five star reviews on Amazon. Lumify is also the number one eye doctor recommended redness reliever eye drop and it's FDA approved. No bleach, no dyes, just incredible results. Plus, it's made by the eye care experts at Bausch and Lom. So whether you're on set, on a date, or running on just a few hours of sleep, Lumify can help your eyes look brighter and whiter. When you try it, you'll see that it's what your eyes have been looking for. Check out lumify eyes.com to learn more.

[Goldie Hawn]

Citizens, since we each upgraded to Xfinity.

[Kelly Ripa]

In our homes, the WI Fi has been booming. It's fair to say our town has officially become a boom town Mayor.

[Goldie Hawn]

Will I be able to drop into.

[Kelly Ripa]

Multiplayer gaming battles with low lag? The lag won't be an issue, but your questionable skills may be. And what if I have hundreds of devices on the WI Fi? Purely hypothetical. Seems like a lot, but sure, hundreds.

[Goldie Hawn]

Of devices all booming together with the Xfinity Gateway. Yes, friends and neighbors with Xfinity, the WI Fi is booming. Restrictions apply.