Goldie Hawn Part 2: Because One Just Isn't Enough!

Summary

Summary of "Goldie Hawn Part 2: Because One Just Isn't Enough!" from Let's Talk Off Camera with Kelly Ripa

Release Date: February 26, 2025

In the second installment of her engaging conversation with Hollywood legend Goldie Hawn, Kelly Ripa delves deeper into Goldie's illustrious career, personal challenges, and insights on parenting. This comprehensive episode captures the essence of Goldie's experiences, her unwavering dedication to her craft, and her heartfelt perspectives on various aspects of life.

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1. Early Acting Career and Breakthrough Moments

Goldie Hawn opens up about her unconventional entry into the entertainment industry, emphasizing that her journey was driven more by spontaneity than calculated ambition.

Goldie Hawn (02:00): "I kind of got nervous around the idea that [stardom] would happen. So I didn't. I wasn't led by ambition."

She recounts a pivotal moment when an agent from William Morris discovered her during a rehearsal at NBC Studios, leading to her immediate signing despite initial doubts about her suitability for roles due to her age.

Goldie Hawn (04:48): "They wrote a part in for you."

This serendipitous encounter underscores the role of "crackle"—a unique, effervescent presence—that Goldie possessed, drawing attention and opening doors in Hollywood.

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2. Embracing Humor and the First Laugh

Goldie shares her first significant experience making people laugh during high school, a moment that felt right without any clear strategy or realization.

Goldie Hawn (02:50): "But I did it because I did it. I can't explain it. I just did it."

This natural inclination towards humor became a cornerstone of her career, leading her to iconic comedic roles that resonated with audiences.

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3. Overcoming Dyslexia and Leveraging Unique Talents

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around dyslexia, a challenge both Goldie and Kelly recognize in their lives despite never having been formally diagnosed.

Goldie Hawn (10:01): "I could talk for an hour on stage without a script."

Goldie discusses how dyslexia has shaped her approach to acting and producing, turning what could be a limitation into a unique strength. She highlights her ability to memorize lines effortlessly and her left-handedness, which adds to her distinctiveness.

Goldie Hawn (10:20): "I'm left-handed. I can write with my right hand. I can write backwards and read everything I wrote in a mirror."

She praises Malcolm Gladwell's David and Goliath for its insights into the strengths dyslexic individuals possess, viewing dyslexia as a superpower rather than a hindrance.

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4. Celebrating Favorite Roles and Characters

Goldie expresses her appreciation for several of her beloved roles, with "Sugarland Express" and "Private Benjamin" standing out as personal favorites. She delves into the emotional depth and complexity of her characters, particularly enjoying roles that portray flawed yet resilient women.

Goldie Hawn (11:07): "Private Benjamin Judy was such a great role to play."

She highlights how these characters allowed her to explore a range of emotions, blending humor with profound personal growth.

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5. Memorable Co-stars and Collaborative Experiences

Reflecting on her collaborations, Goldie fondly remembers working with legendary co-stars who amplified her comedic brilliance. Chevy Chase and Steve Martin are highlighted for their impeccable timing and chemistry.

Goldie Hawn (14:57): "He would make me laugh. And our comedy really jived."

She also shares heartfelt memories of working with Peter Sellers, describing him as a major gifted comedian whose presence enriched her professional life.

Goldie Hawn (15:38): "He was deeply funny. When he saw himself, for instance, trying to get the bags out of my room..."

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6. Navigating Challenges as a Producer

Goldie candidly discusses her experiences as a producer, emphasizing the importance of advocating for quality and creative integrity. She recounts the hurdles faced while producing First Wives Club, where she championed the film's female-centric narrative despite resistance.

Goldie Hawn (17:25): "I became the Voice."

Her determination often labeled her as "difficult," but Goldie underscores the necessity of standing firm to bring authentic stories to life.

Goldie Hawn (21:31): "We have to be able to look at the story as well. Because if you don't like these people, I don't care what story you're going to tell, nobody's going to like it."

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7. Insights on Parenting and Raising Kind Children

Shifting focus to personal life, Goldie shares her philosophies on parenting, emphasizing the importance of kindness, resilience, and allowing children to learn from their mistakes. Both she and Kelly acknowledge the silent judgments often passed within families regarding parenting styles.

Goldie Hawn (31:30): "I have really sweet children. I mean, it's, it's unbelievable."

She highlights the positive behaviors of her children as a testament to thoughtful and example-driven parenting.

Goldie Hawn (32:22): "I, I guess you, you live by example. And that's sort of what we have to remember..."

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8. Rapid-Fire Segment: Personal Memories and Preferences

In a light-hearted rapid-fire segment, Kelly engages Goldie with personal questions, uncovering delightful anecdotes and preferences:

• Childhood Celebrity Crush:

  Goldie Hawn (32:31): "Audrey Hepburn."

• First Kissing Experience:

  Goldie Hawn (32:44): "I was a very late bloomer."

• First Concert Attended:

  Goldie Hawn (33:44): "Ike and Tina Turner at the Howard Theater in Washington, D.C."

• Advice to Younger Self:

  Goldie Hawn (35:38): "Don't do anything differently. Just follow your heart."

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9. Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

Goldie concludes with heartfelt advice, encouraging listeners to remain true to themselves and follow their passions unwaveringly.

Goldie Hawn (35:38): "Don't do anything differently. Just follow your heart."

Her enduring charm and wisdom leave listeners inspired, offering a blend of professional insights and personal reflections that underscore her multifaceted personality.

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Notable Quotes:

• Goldie Hawn (02:50): "But I did it because I did it. I can't explain it. I just did it."
• Goldie Hawn (10:20): "I'm left-handed. I can write with my right hand. I can write backwards and read everything I wrote in a mirror."
• Goldie Hawn (17:25): "I became the Voice."
• Goldie Hawn (21:31): "We have to be able to look at the story as well. Because if you don't like these people, I don't care what story you're going to tell, nobody's going to like it."
• Goldie Hawn (35:38): "Don't do anything differently. Just follow your heart."

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This episode of Let's Talk Off Camera with Kelly Ripa offers an intimate and comprehensive look into Goldie Hawn's life, her struggles, triumphs, and the philosophies that guide her both personally and professionally. Her candid storytelling, coupled with her infectious humor, provides listeners with valuable insights and inspiration.

Transcript

[Kelly Ripa]

Hey there, everybody. My conversation with Goldie Hawn was so good, we couldn't just bring you one episode with her. So here is part two, when Goldie takes us behind the scenes of many of her biggest roles, discusses her Hollywood reputation, and tells us about her favorite co stars. I just love her. So cozy up and listen to part deux of my talk with Hollywood royalty Goldie Hawn. Kate said everyone in the family is always silently judging everyone else's parenting. Is that true?

[Goldie Hawn]

Oh, of course.

[Kelly Ripa]

Somebody got to cue me. Or do I cue myself?

[Kate Hudson]

Cue yourself.

[Kelly Ripa]

Okay, guys, listen. When. When it's Goldie Han. Part one is not enough. So. So we are back with let's talk off camera for part two of Goldie Hawn. So let's get talking, Goldie. We've had a lot of comedic actors on our show and comedians in general, and they all talk about the first time they got a laugh, whether it was on stage, in a school play, a community playhouse, or even in the classroom. And it was that first laugh that sort of hit them differently. It felt so good that they started seeking out opportunities for comedy. Did any of that happen to you? Is that what led you to laugh in?

[Goldie Hawn]

I never had an epiphany that made me shift course. There was no plan. The only plan I ever had was what if I didn't get a commercial or I didn't get on a TV show dancing or if I didn't do that, stardom scared me anyway. I didn't like the idea of stars, of course, a little bit, like looking at all the lies and things that they tell you on it on Instagram and everything else and TikTok on the news, but, you know, they always had people divorcing and drunk and this, and they weren't happy and all those headlines. I didn't want that. I really didn't. I did not want to be a star. I kind of got nervous around the idea that that would happen. So I didn't. I wasn't led ambition. I will say that the first big laugh I ever got was in high school when I played the mayor's wife, where I had to faint because, you know, the Elvis Presley type person, right, who was playing, you know, the guy. I mean, literally, I just got up and kept fainting. Well, with. I guess with my physical acumen or whatever. It was a huge laugh. And that's when that felt good. But I did it because I did it. I can't explain it. I just did it.

[Kelly Ripa]

It just happened. And then the laughter happened.

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah. Yeah. So that it's kind of like that, you know. And then, then I was taken on the Chorus line, meaning my first show. I was so excited. And an agent saw me rehearsing at NBC Studios with, you know, 11 other beautiful girls, by the way. And we were doing a special and this agent came up to me and he asked me if I have an agent. And I said no. And he said, well, I'd like you to come see me, blah, blah, blah. And I went, well, you're William Morris. Wow, okay. And I forgot about it, totally forgot about it, that I was going to meet him. Because, you know, I'm thinking he's a guy is young. I mean, whatever. I mean, that's not gonna happen. I get a call and then it said, Ms. Hahn, we're looking for you. Are you coming to the meeting? And I'm going, oh, my God, this is real. So I got in my car, which was funny because, you know, every time I made a right hand turn, I was 54 forward. The door would fly open.

[Kelly Ripa]

So I would turn right, turn.

[Goldie Hawn]

And the door. I'd have to hold the door shut and turn right and like that. So that was my guide. I drove over there. And long story short, they signed me immediately. They didn't know what they were going to do with me. And thus this man who actually said, I have a feeling about her took me into an audition and I met Persky and Denoff, who were big TV guys at Desilu Studios and with Carl Reiner and all this jazz. And I read for them and I read for them and I read and whatever. But I was too young, really, for the role of the girl. And I knew that. And then I went home and then I got a call, you got the part? And I said, I got the part. I'm too young for that part. He said, no, no, they wrote a part in for you.

[Kelly Ripa]

Wow.

[Goldie Hawn]

So when you wonder if things are supposed to happen, we don't know. I mean, are we on some grid where we're supposed to meet the people and learn something from them? Is this supposed to happen? Was that the way I was supposed to enter into this? Because I didn't have any hopefulness around that. You know, it was the last.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah, but I think. I think you have a thing that, you know, they call it the X factor, whatever. I always call it the crackle, right? I say there are certain people that are crackling where you walk into a room and you may be trying to sneak into a room, you may be trying to want to go unnoticed into a room, but you have the crackle. And so people, people sort of look immediately and all eyes go to you because you have that effervescent thing, a thing that draws the eye. And I'm assuming the young agent from William Morris saw that in that moment, and then Persky saw it and they saw it and they wrote a character for you.

[Goldie Hawn]

Yes, exactly. I mean, that's what happened. And then George Schlatter, one of the loves of my life to this day, he created Laugh in. And he saw me and I think he. I think he got a call from Billy Wilder who said, you should look at this girl. I think it was. I think that's what it was. Anyway, so he came to the studio and saw me and then I got a call from the agent and he said, he wants to meet you. And I met him in, in the office across from Warner Brothers at NBC. And. Yeah, but I didn't know why I was there. I told him, you know, I don't do those shows and I'm not a stand up, so I really don't know. I said, I'm really a dancer is what I do. He said, well, you just came from a, you know, a TV show. I said, I know, but that was just one. I mean, I'm still a dancer at heart. Right? That's what I, you know.

[Kelly Ripa]

Anyway, I love Goldie talking herself out of every job. It's so Unhollywood. It is such an Unhollywood story.

[Albert Bianchini]

You don't want me.

[Goldie Hawn]

It was true. I don't want to disappoint, but, you know, everybody else did, like, shows and, you know, trunk show, I don't know, whatever they were doing, you know, not me. So anyway, he gave me three shows to do. And then the first show that I did was introducing Dick and Dan for the news of the future or Dan and I got it messed up. So the, the cards, the cute cards was like I mixed up a few words and I said, oh, my God. I started laughing and I said, okay, can I do that again? Because I was embarrassed by it. But, but, but I was laughing because I laugh even at myself on the golf course. Even today I can play golf with myself and have a ball because when I hit the ball in the water, it's like the best. But, but like, that's what I was laughing at myself. And he said, no, no, that was just fine, Goldie. And that was the beginning of my laughing and giggling stuff with Dan.

[Kelly Ripa]

Wow.

[Goldie Hawn]

So, you know, these are things I.

[Kelly Ripa]

Didn'T prepare for reading Reading off a cue card is the. It is still to this day fills me with dread.

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah.

[Kelly Ripa]

And I did not realize and I've never been diagnosed dyslexic, but my, my youngest son is dyslexic.

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah.

[Kelly Ripa]

And when I went and took him for his neurological psych eval and he was diagnosed, I suddenly said, oh my gosh, I have this.

[Goldie Hawn]

No, I have it too. I have it too.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah, right?

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah.

[Kelly Ripa]

It's crazy.

[Goldie Hawn]

So those little things, the words you turn around or things like that, they.

[Kelly Ripa]

Just flip all over. They move around the page. It's so. And nobody understands it except for other dyslexic people that the words vanish, they jump up, they move around, they move around.

[Goldie Hawn]

It's so crazy. And then my numbers, I what, I'm. I'm getting a little better, but. Oh my God. So, yeah, I was never diagnosed at all. And, and you know, and people have this, you know, and you, you move along with it and that's what happens. But, and, but what we learn is Gladwell was really interesting book in that. One of the books that he did which was talking about the dyslexics and.

[Kelly Ripa]

How talented they are. David and Goliath. I read that book.

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kelly Ripa]

David and Goliath. It was the most helpful book when it came to understanding my son, myself. It was just like, oh my gosh.

[Goldie Hawn]

I know.

[Kelly Ripa]

Because it really. He. He calls it a superpower and it really is.

[Goldie Hawn]

It is. I mean, I could talk. I could talk for an hour on stage without a script.

[Kelly Ripa]

Right.

[Goldie Hawn]

I don't need anything. Was one of these things. Time lapse time. And I don't know where it comes from. Yeah. So. So, you know, I've never learned that I was dyslexic, but I experienced a lot of symptomatic things.

[Kelly Ripa]

Right.

[Goldie Hawn]

And you know, so that's the way it is. And I'm not unhappy about it. I think that's a really good thing to be. Is dyslexic. I think that's part of my. I'm left handed. I can write with my right hand. I can write backwards and read everything I wrote in a mirror.

[Kelly Ripa]

I've got incredible talents.

[Goldie Hawn]

I can't know if I can remember lines anymore.

[Kelly Ripa]

Lines are overrated. You've done so many incredible roles before you logged on. We were going through them and it was so funny. As I was reading your greatest hits, I was like, oh, that's my favorite. And then I was like, no, that's my favorite. No, that's my favorite. Which Is your favorite Goldie Hawn role?

[Goldie Hawn]

Oh my God. I have, you know, once again, it's like your favorite children. I don't have a favorite, but I have ones I loved doing and that I thought were great characters. One of them was Sugarland Express, that Steven's first theatrical film, Steven Spielberg did, and I was in it. So I think this is one of the most wonderful characters I've ever played. Lou Jean Poplin. And it was interesting because it was a very sad movie about a very strange and amusing girl. And so that one isn't as well known because it's much older. But I loved playing Private Benjamin. Judy. Judy Benjamin was such a great role to play. I mean, and the lines in that and the writing, it was amazing. Nancy Myers is so smart.

[Kelly Ripa]

So smart smart.

[Goldie Hawn]

And, and it was really, really, really great. And you know, I was pregnant with Katie when they came to me and said, would you like, you know, to be on the on board here on this movie that they're going to write? And I said, yes, I would love it. So this was all happening while I was just dating with Katie and that there are lines in that thing that people never forget. You know, the, you know, I want to be normal. I want to my, I want to wear my sandals. I want to be normal again. I mean, I mean, does this come in any other color than green? I mean, and then it's like you can go back and, and look at some of the funny lines that were in there. So that's. And she was such a great character because, because she took the force. She took the, you know, took her life and finally just was able to hit this guy and say, you're such a schmuck. Okay. You know, the army made a woman out of her, right? Yep. And, and truly when she took that veil off and threw it in the air and walked down by herself down that, that tree lined lane and the music went on and I went, what's gonna happen to her now? And it was just. I just loved that character.

[Kelly Ripa]

You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna watch that again tonight. I just decided I'm watching that again tonight.

[Kate Hudson]

Albert came in with his favorite all time.

[Kelly Ripa]

What's your all time favorite? You think just because I'm a movie.

[Goldie Hawn]

Star I don't have feelings? Well, you're wrong. I do have feelings. I'm an actress. I have all of them. It's the best. It was the best one, I swear. I know. It was so great. And her character was so great. I mean, I Had, we had lots of things with the movie to try to get it right. But what did happen came out absolutely great. And these lines and these characters were so well drawn. And I loved my character because she was, she was flawed and crazy and self delusional and sad. I mean, she was such a sad character.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yes.

[Goldie Hawn]

So that for me was another great, a great, great character that I was able to play.

[Kelly Ripa]

Do you have a favorite co star? Is there a co star that you loved working with? And I'm going to take Kurt and move him to the side because I feel like that's prejudicing the juried pool. Is there a second co star that you just loved working with that you think to yourself, oh, I could make 10 movies with this book person.

[Goldie Hawn]

I tell you, the best match was Chevy.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah. God, we love that movie.

[Goldie Hawn]

We were talking about. He would make me laugh. And our comedy really jived, you know, I mean, there was just something about that, that, that duo that I thought was, was really great. And then the other one was Steve Martin.

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, wow.

[Goldie Hawn]

And Steve, Steve is so great to work with and timing, you know, everything. It was just a joy. Mel Gibson was also a lot of fun. But, but, but he was so handsome. I could hardly look at him. I kind of looked at him. I went, God, you are good looking. And, and really, but really, really sweet. Oh my God. Peter Sellers, please.

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh yeah, Peter Sellers.

[Goldie Hawn]

Oh, God. A major, major gifted comedian. I mean, he was also very crazy. But to have worked with him is probably one of the great moments of my life. Because he, he was deeply funny. When he saw himself, for instance, trying to get the bags out of my room. This is in the movie. And he has all kinds of suitcases, but he couldn't get out the door because there were too many suitcases. When I tell you we had to break for lunch. Okay, let's. You couldn't go on. So, you know, there's, you know, a lot of good things and then a lot of movies that, you know, weren't, weren't so fabulous. But it's not, it's never about the successes. It's your experience that you have, your.

[Kelly Ripa]

Experience on the movie. Yes, yes, that I, that I understand. Because sometimes your greatest successes can be your worst professional experiences. And vice versa.

[Goldie Hawn]

And vice versa. Absolutely. The best time ever. And I mean, you know, one of the movies I did with, with Steve didn't do as well, you know.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah.

[Goldie Hawn]

Out of Towners. That was it. I also did a movie called Town and Country. So.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah. When you advocated for Yourself. I already know the answer to this, so I'm just gonna say it. When you advocated for yourself on a film set, whether it was an actor as a producer, were you dismissed as being difficult? Were you considered difficult at times?

[Goldie Hawn]

Yes. Yes, I was. I was.

[Kelly Ripa]

It's a very interesting, uniquely female label. Label that is placed upon a woman that just express an opinion on a set.

[Goldie Hawn]

Exactly. It's a. It's. It's a little bit. A lot of it. When I was producing, so I produced, but I was a hard producer. In other words, I was not satisfied. I. Until I was satisfied, I couldn't move on. For instance, in Warner Brothers, we did Wildcats, okay? And I went there. I knew the script wasn't right. They always greenlight things before they're really ready. And I went to New York and I started reading some actors. And the actors weren't bad, they were fine. It was the lines, it was the writing. And I went back and I called up the man who was like, running it and running the studio, and I called him up and I said, we cannot make this movie. We cannot. We've got to take time off and we have to get somebody in here to rewrite this movie because it's not the actors. It isn't working. And he postponed it. He postponed it. We got, you know, a great, great, great writer on it and redid it, and it was terrific. And I did the same thing with the movie that I did in Toronto. I called Jeffrey Katzenberg because they had very green producers, they had a brand new director, and I'm telling you, I called him up and I said, okay, Jeffrey, if you want to be two months over and so over budget and over time, you can keep these people, but right now you need to send in a. Someone who is a true producer with a. With. With history. And he did. And so, you know, these people actually listened to me. The hard part was, is that when I was producing a scripts like out of Towners, that was not ready, they took. You know, there were a lot of things that went on, and a lot of the things. First Wives Club, I fought. I fought for every single thing I could. Because what happened with First Wives Club, we all turned it down because it was very male bashing, right? And didn't want to do it and didn't want to do it. And then suddenly the girls said, okay, Goldie, you talk, you do it. Right?

[Kelly Ripa]

You do it.

[Goldie Hawn]

So I became the Voice, right?

[Kelly Ripa]

Right.

[Goldie Hawn]

And then one. One time, you know, when we went there and it was just, you know, they Came to my apartment in New York and met with me and it was a writer who's going to sweeten it and make it better and all that. So I had, I don't know how many notes I gave him and I was doing everyone says I love you at that point. So it was like, oh, I have a day off, okay, now I gotta spend it doing this. Okay, fine. We went and did the reading, but I didn't show it to anybody until that day. And we went and did the reading around the table, there was a few laughs and that was it. This is, this is First Wives club, right? And I became so irate and I went over after it was over and I said, you, I spent a whole half a day with you and I gave you a million notes and not one of them was implemented. This movie, there was one actor who quit right on the spot and literally I said, you. And they said, well, you better talk to Bubba about this. And I said, oh, I will. So I flew back for a long weekend to work with my producer to go over a bunch of notes for this. And it was quite something. And of course after it all they thanked me and whatever. But I mean it was, it was really hard.

[Kelly Ripa]

But don't, don't you ever get exhausted from constantly having to be in that position where you have to fight for every thing instead of just saying this would make it funnier. Punch this up, take this out. We don't want it to be a male bashing movie. We want it to be a funny film about three friends that really find self reliance and self advocacy in this divorce journey.

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah.

[Kelly Ripa]

Instead of having to fight and be the quote unquote difficult one and the mouthpiece for everyone. It's got to be exhausting.

[Goldie Hawn]

Well, it is, but who's going to do it? I mean, this is, this is how I look at it. I'm sure you do too. Because you can't create something without disturbance. It's going to happen. And if they're just going to be able to just go with status quo, we're better than that. And the idea is better than that. And we have to be able to look at the story as well. Because if you don't like these people, I don't care what story you're going to tell, nobody's going to like it. So I, I, I stick to my guns and I'm tenacious. And you know, one of our great film writers actually read that script. He's the greatest script doctor we've ever had and he's A friend of mine. So I took it over to him and he said, and Kurt said, you know, Goldie, this could be a career ender. This is the script. Is. Is. Is in trouble, okay? And, you know, I said, I said, yeah, but I've got some ideas on how to fix it. And that's what I did. And I'm, you know, so these. So you're right, but what are we going to do when we are. When we're muffled? When somebody's gonna, you know, put a muzzle on you?

[Kelly Ripa]

Right?

[Goldie Hawn]

You don't. I don't care. I don't care. I mean, there were lots of things that were wrong. I saw them go wrong. I watched the movie afterwards, and then I was asked to bring somebody on to rewrite the last section of the movie. I mean, wait a minute. I told everybody in the first place this wasn't going well, you know, and now I became the bad guy because they had to redo it and the director had to redo it. So he would sit there with his arms crossed and say, all right, Goldie, well, what do you want me to do? What do you want me to do?

[Kelly Ripa]

Like, like a petulant.

[Goldie Hawn]

Oh, it was terrible.

[Kelly Ripa]

It was just terrible.

[Goldie Hawn]

Anyway, you live through those things because, you know, what do we have ethics? Do we have that? Are we somebody that just says yes to everything because it's. You don't want to be, you know, kind of thought of as something. No, I'm strong. I know what it is to say no, and I know what it is to make it better, because you have a sense. So that's what it is. Now, that didn't happen with everything, but we have to stand up and be counted, right? And, you know, there is this. I remember I had an experience where it could have been dealt with differently, but I directed a movie called Hope, and this was for Turner, and I made this movie. I had 29 days to do it. I was in 100 degree weather in Houston and 100 degree, you know, sort of humidity. And one night we. All day long, we shot. All day long, I shot a fight. We shot this. We had so many edits of the thing. And then the next day, that building was going to be burned. So what, we're having dinner now. Okay, so now we're going to bring in my dinner. It's great. I'm in my trailer and then they knock on the door. And then the cinematographer comes up to me and. And he says, goldie, I got to tell you something. We. We lost our entire day today. The gal who was changing the film, this was not digital days. The film exposed it. So this whole day was exposed and we have to burn down the thing. So what I did was I didn't get mad. I said, okay, go out of my trailer and let me alone for a while. I'm going to fix this. And I did. And I fixed it because I asked the question, what did we really need inside? How are we going to bring what matters in the scene outside with a steady him? How are we. We're going to only get two cuts out of this. And. And the long and the short of it is it was actually better than what it would have been incredible. So. But it's what happens when you don't get inflamed, when you. When. Right. And so look, she couldn't help it. I could go, I could blame. What's the point? We have to get it done. And that's what you were saying.

[Kelly Ripa]

And also, I think again, you have that superpower capability of looking things outside of the prism of just how it's written.

[Goldie Hawn]

Exactly. So that's the creative part of the puzzle. Every movie is like a puzzle. It's every edit, everything. Is this telling the story? Is this not telling a story? Are we on the joke? One thing in Private Benjamin, we had to go back and do a lot of edits on that. And they did it. The writers did it. They were amazing by. And do you know, there were like three laughs in Private Benjamin. And the reason was, is the editing was every time the joke was happened, they cut away from the joke. And it was amazing. It was incredible. Lesson in the power of editing. Because yes, you can edit a drama and it's important you're on the subject and you want to know. You know what? You comedies are very different. It's music, you know. So for instance, if a line was delivered to me and it was a funny line, they didn't realize that the reaction was the joke.

[Kelly Ripa]

Right.

[Goldie Hawn]

You see what I mean? So it's a way of. You gotta get that music. You gotta know where to know where.

[Kelly Ripa]

To do the edit spot. Having the edit on the reaction.

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah, exactly.

[Kelly Ripa]

Wow.

[Goldie Hawn]

And so anyway, so that was an interesting time looking how to manage your emotions when you have to.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah, I wanna. So I pitched this idea to Kate. Yeah, but you know what?

[Goldie Hawn]

I'm.

[Kelly Ripa]

I'm not gonna go through the middleman. So I pitched this idea to Kate. Yeah, but you know what?

[Kate Hudson]

I'm.

[Kelly Ripa]

I'm not gonna go through the middleman. This is the idea. Yeah, it's a reality show. It's Thanksgiving dinner at your place, and every year, one family member gets eliminated. Tell me this is not a great television show.

[Goldie Hawn]

That's very funny. What I would love, actually, before we all get, you know, too old, would be so great to do a movie together.

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, my gosh, yes.

[Goldie Hawn]

Wouldn't it? It would be so fun and so crazy and. Oh, my God, that's.

[Kelly Ripa]

Why don't you do that?

[Goldie Hawn]

Well, we gotta.

[Kelly Ripa]

Are you gonna.

[Goldie Hawn]

It's all about a writer.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah, you're gonna get a writer.

[Goldie Hawn]

No, I have to get permission first from my family.

[Kelly Ripa]

You're in charge. You just tell them, you know, tell them when to show up. Tell them it's a party. Tell them you're having a party for Kurt. Okay, here's how it goes. You tell them you're having a party for Kurt. What they don't realize is it's a party scene for the opening of the movie. So you just, they just all arrive. And then after the first scene is shot, surprise, surprise, you pitch the idea for the movie and you've already got the first. The opening scene in the can. They can't argue with him. The establishing scene has happened.

[Goldie Hawn]

Oh, my God. It's really true, though. It's a miss. It would be a miss. We might do something with Oliver. That is a cartoon. So in other words, we would all be the voices of the. That would be a lot of fun.

[Kelly Ripa]

That's a safe entry.

[Goldie Hawn]

That's safe. Yeah, exactly.

[Kelly Ripa]

But Kate said everyone in the family is always silently judging everyone else's as parenting. Is that true?

[Goldie Hawn]

Of course, of course.

[Kelly Ripa]

I mean, that's like.

[Goldie Hawn]

We have more commentary about how we do things. And of course, parents, you know, you can't say anything. In other words, you, you can't. I mean, no matter what you say will be wrong, will be taken wrong.

[Kelly Ripa]

So you have to, you have to keep it closed.

[Goldie Hawn]

Very quiet, Right? Oh, yeah, I just shut it.

[Kelly Ripa]

But then this. But then Kate can get involved in Oliver's parenting.

[Goldie Hawn]

Oh, please. I mean, she can get involved in anybody's parenting except that one. No, Katie, Katie. Actually, I, I tell you the truth. I, I, I'm telling you, they're great parents, but they came from great parents. And it just shows you how powerful and important we are. And, you know, no matter what, we are developing the next generation. And all I could think of is what I did. I mean, I let kids make mistakes. I got mad when they were not nice. I got mad when they weren't kind. I got mad when they didn't look at someone in the face when they talked to them. I didn't get mad when, you know, Oliver got taken to the police department because he was paintballing something when he was nine years old. That didn't make me mad. Except you got.

[Kelly Ripa]

Kurt had to pick him up, right? Is that the story?

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah. Kurt picked him up and the boys, you know, they're out. They were kids, you know, in the meantime. But see, those kind of things I figure are age appropriate. And then you just say, look, you realize that you never do that again. You get that, right? But the thing that made me mad was rudeness, and I mean, just arrogance and, I mean, not thinking about the other person and, and, and, and, and that's really, I think, the mark of the human, you know, how we actually do that, how do we manage our children so they understand the right, the right things from the wrong. Not the spilt milk.

[Kelly Ripa]

Well, that's why your kids are so kind. They're all so kind, all of them. I mean, I've met. There's one I haven't met who hasn't been on our show.

[Kate Hudson]

Boston.

[Kelly Ripa]

Boston hasn't been our show, but I knew Boston when he was a little boy. We used to live in the same part, the same family in New York. Yeah, that's right. So, like, all of your kids are nice.

[Goldie Hawn]

They are, honey. They really are. I mean, if you look at what you count your blessings or that kind of. Of thing, I mean, I have really sweet children. I mean, it's, it's unbelievable. And I say. And they all have grit. They all care. They all. They're great parents. Great parents. I don't know. I mean, I, I guess you, you live by example. And that's sort of what we have to remember, that we sometimes we don't think much of ourselves, but I think we parents have to think a lot of ourselves, so our children. Pick that up.

[Kelly Ripa]

Before I let you go, I just want to do some rapid fire questions with you.

[Goldie Hawn]

Okay, baby?

[Kelly Ripa]

Childhood celebrity crush.

[Goldie Hawn]

Audrey Hepburn.

[Kelly Ripa]

Ah, that's a good one.

[Kate Hudson]

Yours was a woman, too.

[Kelly Ripa]

Mine was Farrah Fawcett. I have a type. Goldie. Surprise, surprise. Childhood memory that still makes you smile.

[Goldie Hawn]

Oh, God, I have to go to my father again because he was so funny. And daddy would, every time he'd see me, he'd do a little dance and like a soft shoe and maybe made me smile. First kiss, I was in a car with this guy and, and I.

[Kelly Ripa]

So far, you know, I. I used.

[Goldie Hawn]

To practice kissing in the mirror. Because I want to know what it looked like and what it felt like in any way. I was with this guy. I mean, he was like somebody, I guess from school, and he had a car and I was a little bit younger than him, but he pulled over on Sligo Creek Road and then he kissed me. And all I could think of was, oh, so this is what it feels like. Oh, like that. And I kind of didn't like it. You know what I mean? But I was a very late bloomer.

[Kelly Ripa]

That's because you were a dancer.

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah, because I was a dancer, I was a late bloomer. Yeah, for sure.

[Kelly Ripa]

First concert.

[Goldie Hawn]

Wow, that's a good one. Well, I'll tell you what it was. It was Ike and Tina Turner. I was 16 years old at the Howard Theater in Washington, D.C. and oh my God, was amazing.

[Kelly Ripa]

I wish I was there. First time somebody told you you couldn't do something that really stands out in your mind.

[Goldie Hawn]

Do, do basically what I'm doing with children. They said, you can. You'll never do this. You're not going to bring meditation in the classroom. You're not going to teach little kids how their brains work. They had no faith. And I said, watch me. That's my answer.

[Kelly Ripa]

First expensive thing you bought when you started making money.

[Goldie Hawn]

My mother, I bought her wall to wall shag carpeting.

[Albert Bianchini]

So chic.

[Kelly Ripa]

What color? Do you remember that? The color?

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah, it was mushroom colored. And my father used to call me and say, I swear to God, there are mushrooms growing in this carpet. I mean, he hated that carpet. But I know my mom wanted wall to wall carpeting one day and I.

[Kelly Ripa]

Got it for her favorite way to.

[Goldie Hawn]

Spend a weekend with my grandchildren anywhere. With my grandchildren anywhere.

[Kelly Ripa]

What do you sing in the shower?

[Goldie Hawn]

I om in the shower.

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, that makes sense.

[Goldie Hawn]

And I. It goes all through my body. I love it. And then sometimes I do vocalizing, you know, like, and I do things like that. And I, I, I do sing sometimes, but I do a lot of vocalizing.

[Kelly Ripa]

Vocalizing. Write that down. Vocalizing in the shower. We need to start vocalizing, Jan. You don't do that enough.

[Kate Hudson]

I don't know enough.

[Kelly Ripa]

If you could talk to your younger self, what would you say?

[Goldie Hawn]

Don't do anything differently. Just follow your heart.

[Kelly Ripa]

So good.

[Goldie Hawn]

Follow your heart. And that's the way you go.

[Kelly Ripa]

Honey, what's the last thing you binge watched?

[Goldie Hawn]

Binge watched? Oh, God, yeah. Because I drop off sometimes. I get bored. Yeah.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah.

[Goldie Hawn]

I remember one thing that I like, liked was succession. I love that.

[Kelly Ripa]

Years ago Me too. I. I watched it. I watched every season over and over. And then after it ended, I went back and I started re watching and spoiler alert, in the first two episodes, they tell you exactly how the thing is gonna end. So crazy. If you go back and watch the first two episodes of season one, it tells you everything as. It's so crazy how that is so.

[Goldie Hawn]

Crazy thinking around that.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Goldie Hawn]

But, you know, it's funny. I don't watch a lot of tv. Like I'm. I'm. Right now I'm watching, you know, Benjamin Franklin and, you know, Michael's a friend of mine and I love him so much. And so I'm watching him work and I'm enjoying it, you know, I'm not driven to it, you know, and it's just like. And then if we go out to eat, we get home around quarter to nine and then I start going up the stairs and Kurt says, you're going to bed now. I say, no, I'm just preparing for work, preparing for my bedtime.

[Kelly Ripa]

I'm going to get you. And Kurt shirts his that says, you're going to bed now. And yours that says right now. But yours is going to be on the back so he can watch you walk up the stairs.

[Goldie Hawn]

Exactly, exactly.

[Kelly Ripa]

Goldie, thank you so much for doing our podcast. We love you. We are such fans and you just live up to all the hype. We adore you, sweetheart. Thanks so much. Have a great day. And for any of you out there who want more information on MindUP, go to mindup.org oh, honey, thank you so much.

[Goldie Hawn]

All right, sweetheart.

[Kelly Ripa]

Okay, bye. Bye, guys. Bye. Bye.

[Goldie Hawn]

Bye.

[Kelly Ripa]

Well, Goldie Hawn does not disappoint. Does not disappoint.

[Kate Hudson]

What's your favorite Goldie Hawn movie?

[Kelly Ripa]

I think Private Benjamin, Overboard and then Foul Play. Those were my top three. And then Death Becomes Her. Death Becomes her and overboard are the two movies I have easily seen 10,000 times. Every time it's on, I stop what I'm doing and I watch like I could be in the middle of something, right? And I'm like, oh, death becomes her. Watch it.

[Albert Bianchini]

Goldie Hawn.

[Kelly Ripa]

Ah, Goldie Hawn.

[Albert Bianchini]

I wrote it down after she said.

[Kelly Ripa]

But then she recently watching Kate Hudson.

[Albert Bianchini]

Yeah, that is.

[Kelly Ripa]

It was crazy, right? Wasn't it eerie? You didn't. You couldn't see her. Jan. Yes, Jan.

[Kate Hudson]

Yes.

[Kelly Ripa]

They are the same person. I know. It's wild.

[Kate Hudson]

Kate's finally coming out with that album.

[Kelly Ripa]

I know. I'm so excited about it.

[Kate Hudson]

I Think it's gonna be great.

[Kelly Ripa]

Very excited about it.

[Kate Hudson]

I just think it's so funny how you, like, have such strict rules from your kids about what you can and cannot say. And now her kids have a podcast and they're just blasting everything.

[Kelly Ripa]

I know. It's really nuts. So, for example, my daughter has released this new single, Rolls so Good now, on Spotify under Lola Consuelos Rolles. R O L E S Download it now. But she won't let me repost anything. And I'm watching her repost people all over the place, and I go, wait, why can't I post on social media? You're letting everybody else post. She's like, mom, please, I don't need your help to do this. This. I'm do this.

[Kate Hudson]

Just do it. And you'll say, oops, sorry. I have some Ask Kelly's for you.

[Kelly Ripa]

Okay, let's do it.

[Kate Hudson]

I have some Ask Kelly's for you. Okay, so the first one is from Daphne Jarrett. Is it rude to check up on someone if you send them something really unusual and never heard back from them? Like, if you sent a gift. Gift.

[Kelly Ripa]

It's interesting. I am faced with this constantly where I'll send a gift and I never hear back, and I don't usually check up to find out if it was received. On the flip side, I've been sent gifts with no card and no discerning ability to figure out where it's from, who it's from, what it is. Like, sometimes I am just sent gifts and I don't. I have no idea. And then three months later, somebody will say, did you like the slippers I sent you? And I'm. And I will say, oh, my gosh, that's from you. So I think it's fine to say, just out of curiosity, did you enjoy the gift I sent? Because there could be. If you sent it and you didn't specifically put your card in by yourself, if you didn't put the card into the box, there is a chance, even if you used a reputable company, that the card did not go in and said person has no idea that you sent it.

[Kate Hudson]

That just happened to me with, like, so someone. We got smoothies, like a box of smoothies for Glenn when he was sick, and we had no idea where they came from. And I kept thinking it was like, one of the companies we use for the podcast. So I was like, maybe it's like a podcast thing, and maybe this is just something we're supposed to try, but it just made no sense because it was, like, perfect for what he was going through. So anytime someone would say anything about a gift, I said, oh, did you send this? Like, I would literally ask people. And just recently, Devin and Roz said something about, well, did you guys ever get the smoothies? I'm like, thank God. I've been trying to track this down. Right. Like, it's like one of those things. I think it's actually helping people if you bring it up, because they. Most people will say thank you. It's probably that they just don't know it's from you.

[Kelly Ripa]

Don't know it's from you. Right? Yeah. Yes. That's. I mean, it happens more often than you think. My birthday this past year, I like to call it my final birthday because the flower arrangements were so extraordinary that I walked into the house and I said to Mark, is this my final birthday? Because it looked like a funeral had taken place. It was that many flowers.

[Albert Bianchini]

Who's dead?

[Kelly Ripa]

Who's dead? Exactly. It was who's dead? And for the most part, the cards were with the flowers. But there were a handful of arrangements that I have no idea where they came from, who they're from. Or some would just say, I'm just gonna give a random name. Love, Tim. And I'm like, tim, you know what I mean? Like, Tim. And I've gone so far as to call the flower shop if there's a card that is from a specific florist and say, hi, my name is Kelly. I received flowers for my birthday. They were delivered here. Can you tell me who they're from? And sometimes you can track it back that way. And sometimes they have no record of the purchase. So it's hard sometimes because I'm pretty diligent about writing thank you notes.

[Albert Bianchini]

Oh, my God.

[Kelly Ripa]

But sometimes you realize, oh, my God, I have this thing here and I have no idea who to thank for it.

[Albert Bianchini]

Tell them before we move on, what Liza said when.

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, Liza Persky was like, I think it was my birthday. And I was like, please don't bring a birthday gift. I'm begging you. I don't want to write a thank you note. That's my gift from everyone this year, is to not give me a gift so I don't have to write thank you notes because, A, I was out of stationery, and B, it takes six to eight weeks to get it from the printer. And I was like, by the time the note cards are back from the printer, it's going to be two months and I'm going to forget I know myself so she brought me a present, and she wrote herself a thank you note.

[Albert Bianchini]

And put it in with it.

[Kelly Ripa]

And she put it in with it.

[Goldie Hawn]

Brilliant.

[Kelly Ripa]

With the postage, she's like, here, you can just drop this in the middle box.

[Kate Hudson]

That's awesome.

[Albert Bianchini]

All right. So for Maria Kelly, how should I react when a friend ghosts me?

[Kelly Ripa]

Instead of replying to me, you should look within. Look within. The message is there. If your friend ghosts you, there's a reason.

[Kate Hudson]

What if the friend didn't see the message?

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, I mean, then that's. Plus, it's possible. It's plausible. But if you have a friend that you communicate with on the regular and then suddenly your friend stops responding to you. I would reread your last eight to ten texts.

[Goldie Hawn]

Yeah.

[Albert Bianchini]

I will say, though, how often are you in the middle of something and then five texts come in?

[Goldie Hawn]

Oh, yeah.

[Albert Bianchini]

By the time you get to the fifth text, you've forgotten that you were.

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, it's. I was on an airplane flying home without WI fi on Mother's Day, and I still have about 30 texts I have not responded to because I was on an airplane without WI fi by the time I landed at midnight 30. And all the text messages popped up from six hours ago. I was like, well, it's too late to respond now. I'll respond after work tomorrow. Well, after work tomorrow came and went. You know, it's a shit show that has 50 more texts and then you start replying to things that actually need to be responded to. Like happy Mother's Day doesn't need to be responded to right away.

[Albert Bianchini]

No.

[Kate Hudson]

All right, next question. Colleen Homer Maffey says, how can I motivate my 20 year old to get his license and drive? I could have told you it was a boy, because it's like, definitely a boy thing.

[Kelly Ripa]

Okay, well, very difficult. Where. I mean, where does this person live?

[Kate Hudson]

Doesn't say, but I would think. I think that's like a city kid thing.

[Kelly Ripa]

I would. I would get. Well, now with Uber, they don't need licenses anywhere they go. I would motivate him by saying, you're going to be graduating from college. You're going to have a job that requires you to have a license. You're going to need the license not just for driving.

[Kate Hudson]

Right.

[Kelly Ripa]

You're gonna need a license to drive to your job, I'm assuming, or, you know, drive around. Like, that's how Michael got his license. Michael was the same age, he was 20. And he had no desire to get a license. But he got this internship with Blumhouse film While he was in college, and he needed a driver's license, and that's why he got his driver's license.

[Kate Hudson]

Luke was really late to driving, I think just being a city kid in Ubers, the whole thing, and he just. I think it was a responsibility he really didn't want.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

But even when he got his license, I call him the passenger princess, because he literally will always take the ride if there's an option. He's not the kid who drives, but he did get a job one summer where he had to drive, and I think it changed everything. It was just that consistent driving every day. He kind of just got into it.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

But, yeah, we had that whole issue with him as well.

[Kelly Ripa]

You know, my daughter has only driven on the left side of the road. That's the only place she's ever driven. So she. The idea of her driving in America scares the shit out of her.

[Albert Bianchini]

Didn't you tell me once that when you started Michael started driving, that he made a left?

[Kelly Ripa]

Michael learned how to drive. All of our kids learned how to drive on the left side of the road. All of them learned how to drive on the left side of the road. Everybody else, when they got back to America, transitioned to driving on the right side of the road, except for Michael. If he made a left, he stayed. He went left, and he stayed in the left lane. Anytime he went left, it became left. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. You hang a left and you get right back to the right side of the road. That was like a concept that he could not process.

[Albert Bianchini]

Is Joaquin a good driver?

[Kelly Ripa]

He's a great driver.

[Albert Bianchini]

You've driven, he's driven you around.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah, he's a great driver. He drives everywhere. He's the real driver. But the other Lola lives in London. Michael lives in Brooklyn. They never drive. Joaquin drives everywhere because he has to drive.

[Albert Bianchini]

Well, there was that whole thing that they. Cyril told me this because he directs commercials, that they did some big thing trying to figure out how they could appeal to the younger generation because they aren't buying cars. And I guess the overall feedback is that they don't want to put down their social media. So how do you incorporate social media into cars, into CarPlay, in order to get that generation to buy cars?

[Kelly Ripa]

Turn off social media. Your brain is rotting. Your personality is rotting. Your ability to listen and comprehend and understand people and engage in basic human behavior is rotting.

[Kate Hudson]

Next question.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yes, Kathy.

[Albert Bianchini]

When is it time to cut off your kids financially? I was a single mother, and they are now in their 30s.

[Kelly Ripa]

Oh, my God. Like. Like five years ago, 10 years ago. If they're in their 30s, 10 years ago, Kathy cut them off. Rip off the band aid.

[Kate Hudson]

Well, okay, so I have a question. So we just figured out that we're probably never gonna be empty nesters because the day, like, my kids are four years apart. So when one goes to college, the other one's coming home.

[Kelly Ripa]

Wait, he's gonna graduate, he's gonna get a job.

[Kate Hudson]

I know, but that's gonna take a minute, right? Don't they come home first? At this point, I didn't come home.

[Kelly Ripa]

I went straight to an apartment. But so Lola came home for about six months before she went back to London. But she really only came home because she had to wait for her visa. So it was kind of interesting having her here. She was like an honored guest. She really acted like the house was a resort, not so much her house. Michael graduated in May of 2020. So he was stuck at home with us for a year and a half, but he couldn't wait to get out.

[Kate Hudson]

Okay, so once they get a job and they have enough money for their said rent and extra money for, you know, living expenses.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yeah.

[Kate Hudson]

You still supplement them a little bit or how's that going to work? Like, I supplement them a little bit for a little bit of time, or I'm like, you're cut off.

[Kelly Ripa]

So Michael.

[Kate Hudson]

I'd like to have my head around this.

[Kelly Ripa]

So once Michael got a job and. And don't forget, Michael was really lucky because he did a bunch of voiceovers when he was a kid.

[Kate Hudson]

That's right.

[Kelly Ripa]

And we, you know, that money went into a trust for him. And so that gave him a little bit of a cushion. A little bit of a cushion. But he learned really fast the value of money. When we cut him off.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah.

[Kelly Ripa]

And we cut him off. You know, we gave him that year grace period because he was living at home, he was starting to work. He was taking those. All of those jobs on various television pilots.

[Albert Bianchini]

He was.

[Kelly Ripa]

He was hustling. We saw the hustle.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, he definitely hustled.

[Kelly Ripa]

But we knew that he was going to need a great period because every opportunity he had lined up disappeared. With COVID you know, he had really worked hard to establish himself and get into certain rooms he wanted to be in. And then Covid happened and all of that went away. So he sort of started from scratch. So we gave him a bigger grace period. Lola, I will say, she's chosen a career in music and also doesn't want to promote it at all and doesn't want to release it.

[Kate Hudson]

Well, she's been dropping a lot of stuff on Instagram. She sounds great.

[Kelly Ripa]

Well, you know what?

[Kate Hudson]

I actually think what she's doing is really smart. I actually am listening and I'm seeing what she's doing and she's gaining visibility and I think she is unbelievable.

[Kelly Ripa]

Yes.

[Kate Hudson]

My parents gave me. So I was paying my own rent. I was, you know, buying my own stuff. But I would go to my parents house on the way to. I would worked at Maury Povich. I would leave my house, go to their house, eat breakfast in their kitchen because their kitchen was nicer than mine. And then I would get on the subway and go to work. But they did give me a credit card. And he said, look, if you ever, you know, for a nice dinner, whatever it is, you use this. And so anytime I have dinner with my friends, I would buy the dinner for everybody and collect everybody's money. And I was like, he's never commented on it, so I'll just do it from time to time. And I would do that, you know, and then, of course.

[Kelly Ripa]

And then you would have some cash in your pocket.

[Kate Hudson]

I'd have cash in my pocket. But he definitely brought it up to me later. He knew. He knew.

[Kelly Ripa]

He's listening now, J.

[Kate Hudson]

He's listening. So, dad. Yes, very.

[Kelly Ripa]

That's very industrious of you. I like that.

[Kate Hudson]

Yes.

[Kelly Ripa]

I mean, I remember when the reality of having the safety of us taken away from him, you know, we sat him down and I think he was 23. And we were like, look, you've had the year. You're working, you have this apartment that you can afford. There is no reason that we should be supplementing your income at this point. And once that safety net was taken away, we started noticing things.

[Kate Hudson]

Yeah, the hustle gets even. Real.

[Kelly Ripa]

The hustle gets real. And then we started noticing, oddly, we would come home from work and Michael would be in the basement doing all of his laundry. And then I would see shopping bags and I would say, oh, did you go shopping? And he. And he would say, kind of. I went shopping in the pantry. So he would just like, shop for groceries in our pantry. That's where his. We were like. We were at Gelson's.

[Albert Bianchini]

Brilliant.

[Kelly Ripa]

We were the Gelsons of the Upper East.

[Albert Bianchini]

Brilliant.

[Kelly Ripa]

And that's it. Don't forget to tell all your friends about us. You can check us out on Instagram. Letstalkoff Camera. Bye, everyone. Can't wait to talk off camera next week. Let's talk off camera with Kelly Rippa. Is a production of Malojo Productions with help from Goat Rodeo. Our theme song is Follow Me from apm, Music from Malojo. Our team is Kelly Ripa, Mar Consuelo, Albert Bianchini, Jan Chalet, Devin Schneider, Michael Halpern, Jacob Small, Roz Therian, Seth Gronquist, and Julia Desch. From Goat Rodeo. Our team is Kara Schillen, Megan Nadolski, Max Johnston, Isabel Kirby McGowan, and Rebecca Seidel. Additional sound design by Terrence Bernardo. This show is powered by Stitcher Belong.