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December 9, 2024 the sudden collapse of the Assad regime in Syria yesterday took oxygen away from the airing of President Elect Trump's interview with Kristen Welker of NBC's Meet the Press. The interview told us little that we didn't already know, but it did reinforce what we can expect in the new administration. As Tom Nichols pointed out after the interview, when Donald Trump ran for the presidency this year, he wasn't running to do anything. He was running to stay out of jail. The rest he doesn't care about. Nichols was reacting to the exchange that began when Welker asked the president Elect, do you have an actual plan at this point for health care? Trump answered, yes, we have concepts of a plan that would be better still. Just concepts. Do you have a fully developed plan? Welker asked. The answer, nine years after Trump first said he would repeal the Affordable Care act and replace it with something cheaper and better, is still no. He went on to add, I am the one that saved Obamacare. Although he spent his first term trying to weaken it. Trump also reiterated his plans for revenge against those he perceives to be his enemies. He told Welker that when he is president, the Department of Justice should pursue and jail the members of the House Select Committee to investigate the January 6th attack on the US Capitol, more commonly known as the January 6th Committee. He singled out committee leaders Representative Benny Thompson, a Democrat of Mississippi, and former Representative Liz Cheney, a Republican of Wyoming. But it was in his insistence on one specific lie that Trump was the most revealing. He told Welker that there were 13,099 murderers released into our country over the last three years. They're walking down the streets, they're walking next to you and your family, and they're very dangerous. This statement sets Trump up to be a strong man who will save America from great danger. But it is a lie that has been repeatedly debunked. It originated in a September 2024 letter from Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, to Representative Tony Gonzalez, a Republican of Texas, listing 13,099 people convicted of homicide as being non detained. But it was in his insistence on one specific lie that Trump was the most revealing. He told Welker that there were 13,099 murderers released into our country over the last three years. They're walking down the streets, they're walking next to you and your family, and they're very dangerous. This statement sets Trump up to be a strong man who will save America from great danger. But it is a lie that has been repeatedly debunked it originated in a September 2024 letter from Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, to Representative Tony Gonzalez, a Republican of Texas, listing 13,099 people convicted of homicide as being non detained. As Alex Norasta of the libertarian Cato blog explains, non detained does not mean free to roam the streets. It simply means that those in prison for homicide are not currently detained by ice. Once they have served their sentences, they go back into ICE's docket to be deported unless their countries of origin don't have repatriation agreements with the US A condition that affects a very small number of people. Releases of criminal migrants into the US Drop during the Biden administration from the numbers released during Trump's term. In addition, as Norasta points out, the 13,099 figure covers at least 40 years. Welker tried to correct Trump. The 13,000 figure I think goes back around 40 years, she said. No it doesn't, trump insisted. It's within the three year period. It's during the Biden term. Trump was intent on making Welker and the television audience accept an egregious lie, despite the fact it has been thoroughly debunked. His insistence echoed his determination in January 2017 to make the American people accept his lieutenant that his inauguration crowd was bigger than that of his predecessor, Barack Obama. Although we could see with our own eyes that he was lying, he was demanding we reject our own experience and instead let him define how we see the country. Trump built on a history of narrative shaping that ran through the Republican Party. In 2004. A senior adviser to President George W. Bush famously told journalist Ron Susskind that people like Susskind lived in the reality based community believing that people could find solutions to problems based on their real world observations. But such a worldview was obsolete, the aides said. That's not the way the world really works anymore. We are an empire now and when we act we create our own reality. We're history's actors and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do. America's right wing has been able to shape reality in large part because of the 1996 advent of the Fox News Channel, or FNC, the brainchild of Australian born media mogul Rupert Murdoch. Shows on the FNC used clear, simple messaging with colorful graphics that told a story of an America overwhelmingly made up of white rural folks who hated taxes and an intrusive government and would do fine if they could just get the socialist Democrats to leave them alone. To spread the new channel, Murdoch initially offered $10 per subscriber to each cable company that carried it. That right wing echo chamber has expanded until it is now so strong that nearly 70% of Republicans falsely believe Trump was the rightful winner of the 2020 presidential election, despite the fact that the FNC had to pay more than $787 million to Dominion voting Systems for defamation after it lied to viewers about that election. Trump has built on that Republican narrative to create a fantasy world that is badly out of step with reality. It's not easy to see how he will reconcile his vision with real world events. He and his supporters might try simply to tell voters that they have done what they promised and hope that story sells. When Trump threatened to put a 25% tariff on goods from Mexico until Mexico stopped undocumented migrants from crossing the border, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum told Trump that encounters at the Mexico United States border have decreased by 75% between December 2023 and November 2024. Trump then simply told reporters that Sheinbaum had agreed to stop migration through Mexico and into the United States, effectively closing our southern border, and his supporters trumpeted on social media that Trump had closed the border with one phone call. But convincing people of an alternative reality might be harder with issues closer to home. Trump has vowed to place a tariff wall around the U.S. for example, at the same time he has promised to bring down the price of consumer goods. Economists of all stripes say that ultimately consumers pay the price of tariffs, welker told him on Sunday. I don't believe that, trump answered. He might not believe it, but producers do. Car manufacturers, as well as major shopping chains have warned that tariffs will force them to raise prices on other issues. Trump will have a vocal and established opposition after his threat to go after the members of the January 6 committee, former representative Liz Cheney said in a statement. There is no conceivably appropriate factual or constitutional basis for what Donald Trump is suggesting. Here is the Donald Trump attempted to overturn the 2020 presidential election and seize power. He mobilized an angry mob and sent them to the United States Capitol, where they attacked police officers, invaded the building and halted the official counting of electoral votes. Trump watched on television as police officers were brutally beaten and the Capitol was assaulted, refusing for hours to tell the mob to leave. This was the worst breach of our Constitution by any president in our nation's history. Cheney called for the release of the evidence and grand jury material Special counsel Jack Smith assembled so all Americans can see Donald Trump for who he genuinely is and fully understand his role in this terrible period in our nation's history. Nobel laureates generally try to stay out of politics, but today more than 75 of them in medicine, chemistry, economics and physics wrote a letter to senators urging them not to confirm Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Trump's pick for Secretary of Health and Human Services. They object to Kennedy's stand against the scientists and agencies he would oversee. They noted that he has no credentials or relevant experience and that he has opposed life saving vaccines, promoted conspiracy theories and attacked the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the National Institutes of Health. Putting him in charge of the Department of Health and Human Services, they write, would put the public's health in jeopardy and undermine America's global leadership in the health sciences in both the public and commercial sectors. There is also the chance that the Fox media empire will not effectively push a right wing narrative much longer. The Murdoch family is in a struggle over control of that empire after the eventual death of the 93 year old Rupert. He and his eldest son Lachlan want to lock the company into its current political slant. But at least two of the three of Murdoch's other children who are set to inherit the company do not share their father and brother's politics. Rupert has been trying to change the terms of the family trust to cement Laughlin's control of the empire, but today a commissioner in Nevada ruled against him. Edward Helmore of the Guardian noted that the decision likely means that even if the children do not take the media empire in a different direction, divided leadership will weaken the right wing message. Almost 30 years after the Fox News Channel began to shape American politics with a fictional narrative, a different Fox media empire would almost certainly disrupt the right wing bubble. A lawyer for Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch said they will appeal the decision. Finally, Pennsylvania law enforcement officials today arrested a strong person of interest in the shooting of United Health Care chief Executive Brian Thompson. Tonight, a court document shows 26 year old Luigi Mangione has been charged with murder.
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Letters from an American was produced at Soundscape Productions, Dedham, MA. Recorded with music composed by Michael Moss.
Letters from an American: December 9, 2024 - Detailed Episode Summary
Hosted by Heather Cox Richardson
Introduction
In the December 10, 2024 episode of Letters from an American, Heather Cox Richardson delves into the tumultuous political landscape following the sudden collapse of the Assad regime in Syria. This geopolitical shift coincided with the airing of President-Elect Donald Trump's interview on NBC’s Meet the Press, which Richardson analyzes to shed light on the anticipated direction of the incoming administration. The episode navigates through Trump's political maneuvers, the shaping of Republican narratives, challenges within the Fox News empire, and significant domestic issues, including the fallout from the January 6th Capitol attack and the controversy surrounding Trump's nominee for Secretary of Health and Human Services.
1. The Collapse of the Assad Regime and Its Political Implications
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The episode opens with the unexpected downfall of Syria's Assad regime on December 9, 2024. Richardson underscores how this international event momentarily diverted attention from a significant domestic political event: President-Elect Donald Trump's interview with Kristen Welker of NBC's Meet the Press. While the interview did not unveil new information, it reinforced existing perceptions of Trump's forthcoming administration.
2. Trump’s Meet the Press Interview: Promises and Realities
a. Healthcare Plan Discussions
During the interview, Trump was probed about his healthcare plans. When asked by Welker, "Do you have a fully developed plan?" Trump responded, “[Yes,] we have concepts of a plan that would be better still” ([00:30]). This admission highlights the lack of a concrete strategy, echoing ongoing concerns that nine years after his initial pledge to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, tangible progress remains elusive.
b. Claims About Obamacare
Trump reiterated his contentious relationship with Obamacare, stating, “I am the one that saved Obamacare,” despite efforts during his first term to dismantle it. This contradictory stance underscores the complex and often flip-flopping nature of his policy positions.
3. Trump's Vengeance Against Political Opponents
Trump expressed a desire for retribution against individuals and groups he deems adversaries. Notably, he stated that the Department of Justice should "pursue and jail the members of the House Select Committee to investigate the January 6th attack on the US Capitol," specifically targeting Representative Benny Thompson and former Representative Liz Cheney ([02:15]). This aggressive stance signals potential legal and political battles ahead for the incoming administration.
4. The 13,099 Murderers Claim: Fact vs. Fiction
A pivotal moment in the interview was Trump's assertion: “There were 13,099 murderers released into our country over the last three years. They’re walking down the streets, they're walking next to you and your family, and they're very dangerous” ([04:00]). Richardson meticulously deconstructs this claim, revealing it as a deliberate falsehood intended to project an image of Trump as a savior against rampant crime.
a. Origins and Misinterpretations
The figure originated from a September 2024 letter by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to Representative Tony Gonzalez, listing 13,099 individuals convicted of homicide as non-detained ([05:10]). As Alex Norasta from the libertarian Cato blog clarifies, "non-detained does not mean free to roam the streets. It simply means that those in prison for homicide are not currently detained by ICE" ([06:00]). These individuals are either in the process of deportation or remain incarcerated until their sentences conclude, contradicting Trump's portrayal of them as an immediate threat.
b. Temporal Misrepresentation
Welker attempted to contextualize the figure by suggesting it spans approximately 40 years. However, Trump countered, asserting it pertains to the "three-year period" during Biden's term ([07:20]). This misrepresentation aligns with his broader strategy of narrative manipulation, disregarding factual accuracy to foster fear and support his law-and-order image.
5. Historical Context of Trump's Narrative Shaping
Richardson places Trump's tactics within a broader historical framework of narrative control within the Republican Party. She references a 2004 insight from a senior adviser to President George W. Bush, who criticized the "reality-based community" approach, advocating instead for an "empire" mindset where "we create our own reality" ([08:30]). This philosophy underpins Trump's approach to politics, emphasizing the creation and propagation of alternative realities over adherence to factual truths.
a. The Role of Fox News Channel
The inception of Fox News Channel (FNC) in 1996, under Rupert Murdoch’s vision, significantly influenced America's right-wing narrative. FNC's strategy of using "clear, simple messaging with colorful graphics" to portray America as a land of "white rural folks who hated taxes and an intrusive government" has entrenched a specific viewpoint among its audience ([09:45]). This echo chamber effect has perpetuated misconceptions, such as the belief held by nearly 70% of Republicans that Trump legitimately won the 2020 election—a notion despite the fact that FNC paid over $787 million to Dominion Voting Systems for defamation related to false election claims ([10:30]).
6. The Disconnect Between Trump's Policies and Reality
Richardson highlights the challenges Trump faces in aligning his fantastical policies with real-world dynamics, using immigration and economic strategies as primary examples.
a. Mexico Border Migration
Trump's unilateral approach to immigration, exemplified by his threat to impose a 25% tariff on Mexican goods to curb undocumented migration, prompted a response from Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum. Sheinbaum reported a 75% decrease in border encounters between December 2023 and November 2024 ([11:00]). Trump countered by claiming that Sheinbaum had agreed to cease migration, falsely asserting he had "closed our southern border" with a single phone call—a claim amplified by his supporters on social media ([11:20]).
b. Tariffs and Economic Implications
Trump's vow to construct a tariff wall while simultaneously promising to reduce consumer prices presents an inherent economic contradiction. Economists universally agree that tariffs typically lead to increased costs for consumers. When Welker pointed out this economic reality, Trump's dismissive response—“I don't believe that”—revealed a disconnect between his statements and established economic principles ([11:40]). Industry stakeholders, including car manufacturers and major retailers, have already signaled that tariffs would necessitate price hikes, undermining his pledge to lower consumer costs.
7. Emerging Opposition and Criticism
The episode details the mounting resistance against Trump's agenda from within his own party and the broader political landscape.
a. Liz Cheney's Stand
Former Representative Liz Cheney vocally opposed Trump's threats to prosecute members of the January 6th Committee, emphasizing the lack of "factual or constitutional basis" for such actions ([12:10]). Cheney called for transparency, urging the release of evidence and grand jury materials to ensure that Americans could fully comprehend Trump's role in the Capitol attack ([12:45]).
b. Nobel Laureates' Letter Against Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
In a notable development, over 75 Nobel laureates across various scientific fields penned a letter urging senators to reject Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s nomination as Secretary of Health and Human Services. They cited his anti-scientific stance, opposition to life-saving vaccines, promotion of conspiracy theories, and attacks on key health agencies as disqualifying factors that would endanger public health and America's leadership in health sciences ([13:15]).
8. The Future of Fox News Amid Murdoch Family Strife
The Fox News empire, pivotal in shaping Republican narratives, faces potential transformation following internal power struggles within the Murdoch family.
Rupert Murdoch's attempts to solidify control of FNC through the family trust faced a setback when a Nevada commissioner ruled against his efforts to prioritize his son Lachlan's political vision ([14:00]). With at least two of Murdoch’s children opposing this direction, the fragmented leadership could dilute FNC's right-wing messaging. As Edward Helmore of The Guardian notes, a divided Murdoch legacy might weaken the network's influence, challenging its ability to maintain the established echo chamber that has long supported Republican narratives ([14:35]).
9. Domestic Security Developments: Arrest in Brian Thompson Shooting
In a significant criminal case, Pennsylvania law enforcement officials arrested Luigi Mangione, a 26-year-old suspect, in connection with the shooting of United Health Care CEO Brian Thompson ([15:00]). This arrest marks a pivotal moment in a high-profile case, underscoring ongoing concerns about targeted violence against corporate executives.
Conclusion
Heather Cox Richardson's December 9, 2024 episode of Letters from an American offers a comprehensive analysis of the current political climate, highlighting the complexities and challenges posed by President-Elect Trump's rhetoric and strategies. By dissecting key statements, debunking misinformation, and exploring the interplay between media influence and political narratives, Richardson provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of the forces shaping America's present and future.
Notable Quotes
Trump on Healthcare Plans: “Yes, we have concepts of a plan that would be better still.” ([00:30])
Welker on the 13,000 Figure: “I think goes back around 40 years.” ([06:40])
Trump's Counter on Migrants: “It does within the three-year period. It's during the Biden term.” ([07:00])
Trump on Tariffs: “I don't believe that.” ([11:40])
Liz Cheney on January 6th: “There is no conceivably appropriate factual or constitutional basis for what Donald Trump is suggesting.” ([12:10])
Produced by Soundscape Productions, Dedham, MA. Music composed by Michael Moss.