If you've ever walked into a room and felt the tension before anyone spoke, or made a decision you knew was right but couldn’t logically explain, you already know what we’re talking about. For years, I kept my own spiritual side locked away, afraid it didn’t belong in the professional world. Michele Phillips not only lived that split—she figured out how to heal it. In this conversation, we get into the concrete science behind your energy, why your “gut” is more reliable than your resume, and the simple shift that turns a room of skeptics into believers. No fluff, just the real framework for becoming the boss of your own energy.

00:00 Introduction: The Closeted Spiritual Executive

01:32 Michele’s Journey from Corporate to Spiritual

05:24 The Wild Horse of Energy and Early Mentors

08:00 The Unspoken Rules and Choosing Intuition

11:57 Defining Energy as Emotions

13:51 Personal Energy Alignment and the Flow State

17:40 The Ladder Up Technique for Emotional Regulation

22:27 How to Use the Ladder in Corporate Settings

26:39 Energy Rules and Spiritual Bypassing

30:07 Managing the Voices in Your Head

33:16 Integrating Spirituality into the Boardroom

35:27 Signs from Deceased Loved Ones at Work

40:08 Where to Find Michele Phillips

LEARN MORE ABOUT Michele

Website: energizeyourhappiness.com

Book: Energy Rules (Available on Audible)

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