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Hey, I'm Molly Sims.
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And I'm Emisha Gormley. We're two girls obsessed with one thing.
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Beauty. And by that, we mean everything that makes you look and feel beautiful.
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We're calling on our favorite health experts, industry insiders, and friends to answer all your beauty questions with a drink in hand. Definitely with a drink in hand.
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Yes, you're listening to Lipstick on the Rim with Molly Sims. Real talk for a second. Who, listening to this podcast, did not see Dancing with the Stars last season?
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I mean, even if you didn't sit and watch every single episode, it was inescapable. Everyone was talking about it.
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I have to say, there's something refreshing about watching people take something serious again, you know? You know what I mean? Like, real training, real discipline, real improvement, which we all saw.
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And today's guest is someone who has been at the center of that world, not just on screen, but behind the scenes in her body, her beauty routine and now, as a mom and entrepreneur,
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PETA Murgatroyd, how many seasons were you on?
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You know what? I don't even know the number.
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Welcome to Lipstick on the Rim.
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Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.
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Oh, my God.
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So fun.
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We are diving in. So I met PETA only a few months ago and I'm like, begged her to come on to this podcast. I, I literally, at Christmas, I was like, we had a holiday party. She end up coming with Max. We became obsessed, and she's amazing. So we're going to be covering a little bit of Dancing with the Stars, but we're also going to be covering her beauty, her wellness, and of course, we have to talk all her little secrets. She has one of the best self tanning brands ever. She's going to give you the tip to self tan. Um, you brought kind of self tanning back, I have to say, because this one across the screen over here used to do tanning beds. So there we go.
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I mean, didn't we all do tanning beds for a little bit?
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Yeah, I did one is. I did one a year ago.
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Guys, I know people that still do it, and I'm like, do not. I know.
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I know people who still do it.
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Literally the worst.
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So wait a second. Okay, so you're originally from where?
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I was born in New Zealand.
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Born in New Zealand. I almost said Australia, but I was
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like, well, I was raised in Australia. Okay, so I went to Australia when I was 2 years old and then.
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Did you always. So my niece is a big dancer. She does ballet contemporary. She's amazing. She's 11. She got third in the country. Okay. Grayson dances. Grayson Sims. I'm just giving you a little shout out, but I'm with Peter right now, and I'm gonna get a picture for you. Don't worry. Did you always love to dance?
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I always did, yeah. I started at 4. My mum put me into the local ballet lessons at the church, and it kind of just took off from there. It was definitely a hobby at first, but then as I got to like 8, 9, 10, I had to make big decisions as to if I wanted to go into this ballet academy with this Russian teachers and stuff like that. And I took that route. And then now I'm a ballroom dancer. It just. That is.
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And you just kept evolving and. So when did you move from Australia to. To America?
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I guess permanently? 2010. Permanently. But prior to that, I was traveling for like six years. I left home when I was 17 to travel with a show called Burn the Floor. Burn the floor, yeah. And we ended up with Broadway. And that's where I met my husband Max.
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So you went to Broadway first?
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Yes, Broadway first.
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And then what was that moment? Because Dancing with the stars in 201012 was still massive. What was it like getting that call? How was the auditions? Like, what did you have to do? Tell us everything.
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Well, it's funny because I think now they hold auditions and do that, but like, back then, if I go back to. Prior to Broadway, I was kind of offered a contract right before we were going to go to Broadway with this show. So I had done five years on Burn the Floor and this was like the pinnacle of success. So I was like, I'm not gonna sign that yet. I gotta do my Broadway stint, finish that, and then I will, you know, look at other opportunities. Cause I wanted to act originally. I didn't wanna really teach dance. That wasn't like Dancing with the Stars was not on my radar at all. I wanted to be an actress. That didn't work out. So I signed the contract after Broadway and that was it.
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So they knew you? They watched you, they knew you?
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Yeah, they came to the show and saw the show on Broadway and. And yeah.
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And what was that first year like?
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Well, not just dancing. It's the interviews, it's the fittings, that. It's choreography that takes hours. On top of me teaching it to you, it would be me going to another studio, completely separate area in the Valley or in West Hollywood, getting another body, like a male dancer, and we put it together on tape and it takes sometimes three, four hours. And that's like. And then I go and teach it to you, you know, so. And then.
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Which would take like 75,000, but yes.
C
No, you would be great. So, yeah, it's a big job.
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And the first year you did it, was it anything like you've done? I mean, you'd clearly been on Broadway, so you were used to like a fast paced thing. But this is live, you're in America, you're on tv. I mean, these are heavy stakes.
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They are heavy. And I definitely realized that when I was given the job, I was like, wow, okay, I'm one of what, 12 dancers in the country that get to have this opportunity? It was a very, very big platform. Maybe I didn't realize it to its fullest extent until a little bit later on when, you know, my first paparazzi experience or my first Peter Jane fans came up on Twitter. Do you know what I mean? Like, those sorts of things. Like, I remember those days being, whoa, okay. Somebody.
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Your world exploded.
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Yeah, it was my first season. I was out first, so I thought I was never gonna be asked back. I was like, oh, my God, I'm getting fired for sure. They're gonna cancel my contract. I got out first. It was really bad. But I. Obviously, you continue on and the next season, I won, so it just shows you.
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But I think that's what's great about the show.
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I love that story.
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It's so good. I think, you know, you can't always win, but then you're like, okay, you're gonna have. It's been. It's gonna be a hard season. And then you've worked. Like she was telling me, people will start working, you'll start training. Six months, right?
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Well, if, you know, you have the job, maybe some celebrities will, you know, get in the rehearsal studio and start
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learning prior to coming along constantly as the instructor, as the main person. You're constantly training.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somewhat, yes. Refining the skills, for sure.
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Yeah.
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God, I love it.
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Do you think that dance taught you early on sort of how to be more disciplined and have more resilience? Like, do you think those early training.
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Oh, my God. I. As I said, I started in a Russian ballet academy. I mean, this was get your leg up to your ear or you're out of class type of thing. Like, I want it up here now. Like, yelling at me in my ear. It was a very intense part of my childhood, but it's literally what made me. And when I think back to those moments of, like, my Russian character teacher, I forget his name now. We had all different teachers, but, like, he held a chair above his head and was like, get it right. You know, it was. And he was gonna throw the chair at me, you know, And I was so shaken as a child, but I was like, wait.
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My.
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My parents would always say to me, he thinks you've got it.
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Or he wouldn't be yelling at you.
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He wouldn't be yelling at you. Like, you know, it's those situations where they. They push you to your limits. Like, my absolute limit. I was dancing, going to high school, doing my studies, coming back, doing. We had a ballet school that was attached to a high school and a primary school, elementary school. So I would do my studies, go and do a contemporary class, go back, do maths, come back in, do two hours of ballet, go back and do science. Like, it was. It was really intense and.
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Okay, so you did ballet?
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Yep.
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I guess. Salsa, ballroom, jazz.
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No, I own. I just did ballet, classical ballet, until I was 16. I had an ankle injury, had to have surgery, like full ankle reconstruction. And I literally lost the love of ballet overnight. And it was crazy because I had trained since I was 4 years old, but I. There were. There were certain circumstances along the way where, you know, you in ballet, you probably have seen. They all look the same, they're all the same height, they're all the same stature, all the same build. And you have to be like that in the court of ballet. You can't look different unless you're a soloist. I wasn't big by any means, or I was never told you need to lose weight. But I would come back as like an 11 year old after summer break. And, you know, I'd been eating a bit of ice cream, you know, whatever, every day, probably a little bit of ice cream. And I was told, you need to get that off in two weeks. You know, it was. It was very like, you. You cannot look like that, okay, in this ballet academy. And those things have stuck with me for sure and have, you know, how could it not? Yeah. But, yeah, I was never told, you know, you're too big for this. I was told you're gonna be. Have to be a soloist. You're gonna have to go straight to a soloist because of your body shape. Because I did have the broader shoulders, I did have a little more meat on my thighs than the super, super thin girls that were out there.
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That is so crazy. Yeah, I know.
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And I was getting ready to, like, audition in Germany and, you know, the, you know, Royal Ballet in London and stuff like that, and I would have to be a soloist first, not be a part of the corps de ballet. So I was told that.
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Yeah, I think they were wrong.
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Thank you.
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I know. I do think those early, you know, early things that happen, like, they do make you resilient. They do. They push you to work hard, they push you to, you know, give it your all because they're expecting you to be your all.
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Yeah, you gotta be the best. Or if you're not first, you're last. So that's the mentality.
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Crazy. Okay, so then you left. When did you get to America?
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I. Well, I had done tours of America. Like Atlantic City, I think was my first.
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Oh, my God.
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American tour. Yeah. That was wild. I mean, we were just in the casinos having fun and dancing every night. And then, I mean. Yeah. And we hit Broadway in 2009, and we stayed there for what, 10 months or something like that. So. Yeah.
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And that's where you met Max, and
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that's where I met Max.
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And then you guys both came to Los Angeles together?
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Yes. Well, he was already Max. He was already the big deal coming in. He was coming into our show as, like, the headliner because we needed, like an American couple to headline the show and to sell more tickets and to get more bums on seats type of thing.
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And that was him.
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And that was him. And that was the first time I saw him come in. And they were like, okay, so the. Max and Karina will be here soon. And they came in the door and I was like, oh, my gosh. You know, that is so.
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I'm like, love that.
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It's such a good love story.
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It's such a good love story. Okay, so in terms of training now.
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Yeah.
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You're in your late 30s.
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Yep.
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Do you train every day? Like, can we look like you?
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Oh, my gosh, yes. You can absolutely look like me. You already do. I don't.
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I'm wearing black.
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Oh, my gosh. I do not train every day. No. Right now I'm actually going through a period of. I'm just exhausted and I'm tired and I'm just like. I'm trying to find my footing with three kids, two really young ones, a one year old and two year old. And I'm. I'm trying to make the gym happen every day, but I'm failing right now. I really am.
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Three kids. I mean, we both have three. And it's very hard. It's very hard. It's daunting. Every day is like, what do we say? The years. The days are long, the years are short. And it's true. When there's so little and they take. So it doesn't matter if you have help, they want you.
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I have five days a week help. Does that make me feel any less exhausted? No, it doesn't. It's crazy.
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Yeah.
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Because if I'm in the room, like, I literally have to leave the kitchen, like, dining room area when the babies are getting fed because they won't eat unless I'm sitting next to them. And if I have to go somewhere, like, they start screaming. So I don't come down when they're eating breakfast. Right now I have to. Cause they're going through that period where they're just so.
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One and two.
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Yeah, one and two.
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You're in the thick of it.
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You're in the thick of it.
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Yes.
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But if you did go to the gym and when you're back at the gym, do you dance? Do you lift weights? What do you do?
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I. I do a combination of both I love dancing on the side, but like, I lift weights. I'm not shy to be, you know, with the big bar on my back doing squats.
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Listen, ladies, two episodes in a row.
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Oh, yeah. No, you have to build the muscle. If you lose the muscle, I mean, I think it's been said recently, life expectancy goes down, right? Like, literally, you have to keep a lot of muscle on your body as a woman and that's how you stay lean too.
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Do you still enjoy dancing?
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I do, I do, but I haven't done it for a while.
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I haven't danced in Max ever. Just dance together at home, like in my head.
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I mean, fun stuff.
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Flip you up over a shoulder. Like, I mean, imagine that's my mom up there.
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I mean, he can do that. Yes, but no, not every day.
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Back into a thing. And I was like, oh my God. I'm like gonna make him fall down. I'm like, oh, okay.
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Oh no, he's got you.
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I feel supported.
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Yeah, that's awesome.
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Okay.
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Everyone loves you. We have to talk. Well, I want to talk about your. Your beauty company, but just your own personal beauty. Your blonde. You're tan, you're beautiful. Talk it. Take us through. Like your skincare.
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So I think I just learned at a really young age that, I mean, I have really dry skin, right? Super dry. More than you would ever think. So I'm moisturizing constantly throughout the day and my mom would always, you know, drop me off at school with a shiny face in the morning and she would say, moisturize. Are you going to get wrinkles? You know, it was no wrinkles. Oh, I got a bit of Botox up here.
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I love it.
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It looks great.
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Thank you. But yeah. So my skincare routine is very much, I would say simplified right now with two young ones, but it's cleansing. It's lots of serums. I love my serums.
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Who do you like? What kind of serums?
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Skinceuticals. Barbara.
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Yeah, Love her.
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I love Korean skin care.
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I. Have you tried. It's like $32. I got it on Amazon. It's. There's two. One is the peptide ampoule. Have you heard of this one?
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Which brand is that one?
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You know, I'm gonna look up in a minute on my phone, but it's literally like $30. It is the most hydrating serum I've ever put on my face. Yeah, it's got little peptide strands in it that look like little worms. Like a beard. And then if you really like hydration. Tier, tier. T I R, T I r Milk, ampoule.
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Oh, okay. Ooh.
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Like, amazing.
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They, I mean, they have the best skin over there too. They're like wrinkle free until they're 90. You know what I mean? They look amazing. So I'm like, I'm going to take what she has. But Cosrx is a brand.
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Cosrx. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Love that brand. And it's so affordable.
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Is that a Korean brand?
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I think so.
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It's cause Rx. Korean.
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I think so. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I just. I'm obsessed, like, with face masks and all of it. Like the pd. What's it called? Pdrm.
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Pdm. The salmon sperm.
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Yeah. I haven't done this.
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Me neither. But I want to.
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Yeah, I want to do that. I know.
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Medicube, I think, has like a salmon sperm sheet mask. You put it on at night and you wake up in the morning and you peel it off.
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I can't do the overnight masks. I can only do like I say. I'm going to.
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I know.
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They're supposed to change colors.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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No, I can't do it. I did it one time and it worked, but I was so uncomfortable sleeping in that thing.
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I know.
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Because you have to be like this. You can't move.
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What are three things that you do in the morning if you have five
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minutes to sort of get ready
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again?
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Heavy moisturizer. One of my favorite ones is Weleda.
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It's skin food.
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Skin food.
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I use it. Obsessively obsessed. I use it in the. I went to the desert a few weeks ago and I literally. I did it. Brooks did it. Scarlet did it. Gray did it.
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Yeah.
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Skin food. Willita.
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It was.
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It's like a thick, thick. My skin was on. I felt like it was cracking. It was so dry.
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Yeah, it's. It's one of the best. So I would always do that. I would wipe on some mascara and. And always a lip balm. Those would be my three things. Yeah.
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What's one product that you've tried to replace or recreate but you always come back to? You're like, I just can't give up this product. Hmm.
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Oh, okay. Skinceuticals. Vitamin B serum.
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I knew you were going to say that. It's a great. It's so hydrating.
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It's so good. Yeah, that's. I haven't found a better vitamin B
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serum that's been on the market for a very long time. It stands the test of time.
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Yep. For sure.
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For hydration, for locking in. Yeah. It's a great company. Is there anything you swear by that you've completely dropped that used to do?
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I think, like, just. I would. I would do a lot of masks, like every night. I just don't have time to do them anymore, you know?
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Are there any wellness trends you swear by?
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Peptides. I've been on them for before. I Was pregnant with my first nine year old.
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Do you remember which peptides are on cjc?
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Thymosin, Alpha, ghk.
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What's ghk?
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It's for skin. Obviously. I've gone off and on them being pregnant and stuff like that.
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Can you tell a difference when you're on them?
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When I was touring with Dancer with the Stars for like three months at a time, it was such a grueling schedule that, like, I would be doing these peptides in the bus before anybody ever knew about them. We had this doctor that is incredible doctor Seeds. And it would literally get me through the whole tour and I would have, you know, the same energy, if not more than a 20 year old out there.
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And what was the tour like? Was dancing every single day.
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Dancing every single day. A different city every single day. Yeah. Very intense.
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What about supplements?
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Yes, yes, absolutely. Vitamin C, glutathione, magnesium, Oregano oil is like.
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She does oregano oil.
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Yeah. Love it under my tongue and for the back of the throat just to like kill any infections and stuff like that. I was doing colostrum for a while. Zinc.
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We love zinc.
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Elderberry.
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Yeah. I'm doing that green compass. You know, the green compass. I'm doing the immune bloom.
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Oh.
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And it's like heavy doses of elderberry.
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Nice.
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And I'm doing it every night to try to, you know, because we're in the thick of, you know, winter and February getting sick. I do believe in elderberry. I do believe in, like, I believe in IVs.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah. You're good at that.
C
Yeah, absolutely. How often do you do them?
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Like once a month. Once every three weeks.
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Okay.
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Like, especially if I'm traveling and I know it sounds crazy, guys, but when I'm on an airplane, I wear a mask. We have to talk about PETA, Jane.
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Yes.
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Okay. So very excited. How did it start? Why did it start? I love that you, like most people, solved a problem.
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Yeah.
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Most of you know, I read a little about, about your story about I didn't want people to be orange.
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It's literally it. Like, I know I had tried every tanning brand on the market. I mean, we were getting tanned every single week without fail on the show. And it was not new to me at that point because I had done ballroom dancing competitions, you know, to get my status of where I was in the world type of thing. I'd been doing that for a couple of years, so I knew what heavy tanning looked like. But it was just. I always hated the next five days going out into Public because it was cracking. It was orange. I smelt bad, and I just couldn't get the hang of it. Just like, what am I doing wrong? Like, what is this? I look orange. Like, I look great on the stage underneath all the lights. And you kind of need that tan because you're wearing really skimpy costumes and, like, bright colors, and you look better with a tan. You look.
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I was gonna say. I heard you say this is why you need a tan. For muscle definition.
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Yep.
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Smoothing.
C
Yep.
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Toning confidence, all of those things.
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It literally.
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We do feel better with a tan.
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We do.
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Like that. I feel hideous right now, guys. I'm translucent.
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So. Okay. It was 2015 when I teamed up with an industry professional. I was like, I just need to make this better for people. Like, this is a horrendous situation. She's like, let's do it. Let's team up and, like, get. Get the formulas together and try them out. And it was, you know, a real trial and error period. I mean, just to. Getting the dry time to be within seconds took a while. Like, that took years, you know, and to get the color just right, so you're not that tinge of green. You're not that mustardy color. It's just like that perfect golden, natural golden brown. Yeah.
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Beautiful.
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Yeah. And then it just took off from there.
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Let's go through the prep.
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Okay.
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If you're coaching someone, you're like, okay, you want the best self tan? What do we need to do?
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Okay, so I would advise to shave, but 24 hours prior.
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24.
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Oh, God. I do it right before.
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Okay, well, I mean, maybe you're okay, but like most people, when you shave, your paws are open. So then when you stick the tan on your leg.
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I've used heated to dots everywhere.
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Yeah, that happened to me too.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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So that's why we always say, okay, 24 hours. Just 24 hours before they say they can close up. Exfoliate. You don't have to, but do it without, like, an oily one. You need to do it with, like, a dry exfoliating mitt or something like that. We. We have them. We sell those so your skin is completely clean when you put the tan on. No moisturizers.
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No jewelry.
C
No jewelry. The only thing that I do getting out of the shower is I put, like, moisturizer on, like, the really dry spots, like my knees and my, you know, crusty ankles and stuff like that. Yeah. And then you put it on and you sit for what, eight hours, and then you wash it Off. And the top layer of, you know, the color guide.
B
So you can do it yourself, right?
C
Yeah.
B
You don't have to go to.
C
Yeah.
B
Because it takes sugar, bronze, or. I don't even know. Like, all. Yeah, you can just, you know, and it's easy.
C
It's easy. It's really easy. It's foolproof.
A
And here's a question I have, because I will say we have all made tanning errors at home. Is there a way to fix a tanning mistake? Cause it's happened to me where I had it, like, splotched, like, on my inner wrist, and I was, like, rubbing at it furiously.
C
I mean, you can always try to, like. Well, after the first shower. No, it's done. It's a done. Dizzled situation. You are done for, like, the next five to seven days. So if you've got orange palms, they're staying orange. Um, but it's really funny. My team was like, you have to try this trend. And it's. It's that. That white sponge. What's that? That.
A
Oh, the. The Mr. Clean one.
B
The. Oh, Mr. Clean Magic Eraser.
C
It literally takes your tan off. Like, if you've made a mistake. Like, I tried it on camera, and I, like, deliberately did it on my palm, and then I got the eraser, and I was like this. And it literally came off my skin.
B
I need that.
C
I don't know if that's good for you or not, but.
B
Well, if you have a mistake, so.
C
I had a mistake.
B
I had a mistake the other day.
C
Yeah.
B
And I use my X pads. Oh, I use.
C
Great.
B
Your PETA. My thing. I. I got it on too much on here.
C
Okay. Yeah.
B
And I just use my X pads.
C
Amazing.
B
And I put them on just a little bit. I wiped it off. I let it. I wiped it again, and it. It was fine.
C
Wow. I gotta get me some.
B
I'm giving you some. I was very lucky. But I think I love the Mr. Clean.
C
I know I was like, we probably shouldn't promote that, but it's a good hack.
B
How do you make a tan last longer?
C
Moisturizing every single day. Moisturizing after the first shower. Yeah. Because you don't want it to, you know. Did you know that?
A
I did know that. Because I've realized when I've had. When I do self tanner all over my body, the areas that get splotchy for me are the ones that I don't properly moisturize. Yeah.
C
Just.
B
I didn't know that.
C
And you can use. We have, like, a gradual tanner. We also. You know, have a travel tanner which have like, it's like moisturizer with a hint of tan so it keeps the tan color fresh.
A
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B
We have some listeners submitted questions. You are very popular. Okay, Alice wants to know what are your best self tan tips for beginners who always get streaks?
C
I mean, you got to work fast. Number one, you can't like put dilly dally. Yeah, don't dilly dally. And don't people make this mistake. They'll grab it on the mitt and like they'll splotch it everywhere, right? And they'll put the blobs everywhere. And then by the time they've done this, this is dried and you're a goner. Like you've got splotches all over your body. So do an area first, then do this area, then move to the chest. Like, yeah, that's a piece by pace.
A
Margaret asked, how do you make a tan look natural year round and not overdone? And I think the question here, I have this question to myself personally. I hate when I put on self tanner on my face and I like,
B
go to school pickup.
A
And everybody's like, where were you this weekend? And I'm like, my bathroom. Like, am I overdone looking? So, you know, how do you make it look natural?
C
I mean, just start little by little. I wouldn't whack a ton of it on and just expect it to be perfect. You know, I would say just like, start very minimal and see how you like that first.
B
Again, you can always build.
C
You can always build. And that's the. The beauty with the gradual line is that, you know, we have. It's like moisturizer, so it's foolproof. You just like, wipe it on, like a moisturizer, wash your hands, and you're good to go. You can't make a mistake.
B
Sarah S. Asked, how do you rebuild confidence postpartum, both mentally and physically? This is one she can answer.
C
Oh, God. I would just. I would say, number one, having, like, a really good support system around you, good people around you, people that are going to help you and care for you and, like, you know, I'm lucky. My husband is so great in that way. Like, he. He's never the one that will, you know, leave me at home with three kids for days on end. Do you know what I mean? He will always be there to help, to pick me up to. And he's also the person that'll be like, babe, you got to get your ass to the gym. You got to feel good about yourself. Go and run or go and walk for 40 minutes. Like, he will be like that. Tough love as well. And that. That has really helped me as well, you know?
B
Yeah, we were just talking about it on the last episode. Just like working out is so important for your head, so important for your mental health, for your depression, for your anxiety, for just your angst. Like, getting out of the house, walking, running, going to the gym, strength training.
C
Yeah. Seeing friends. You know, there's at times where, you know, I wouldn't see people for months on end. Like, I wouldn't go on any coffee dates or like, hey, Pete, come to lunch. I'm like, nah, I just gotta stay home and be with the kids. And, you know, breastfeed every three hours. You know what I mean? But if you really just take that time to go and see a friend, it really helps.
B
Maria is wondering if motherhood changed the way you see your body, especially on camera.
C
Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna lie for sure. There's things, you know, loose skin here and there, you know, definitely stretch Mark all over. You know, I couldn't help that with my third child. I got so big with my third. So, yeah, I. It's harder now with like high def tv. It's like you see everything, everything. But yeah, it's. My body is changed, but I guess for the better, for sure. Yeah.
A
Jennifer asked, what do you tell yourself on days you don't feel your best?
C
I tell myself to be kind to myself. Just like, don't, you know, I feel, I really feel like words have weight. Like, if you say, oh, God, I just look so freaking fat today. And like, I'll say it to myself. Like, I won't say it out loud, but it will be a thought in my head. And I'm like, damn, man, you're like six weeks postpartum. Like, give yourself a break. Like, you need to speak highly of yourself.
B
We were literally just talking about, like, those little affirmations that you can give me. Like, yeah, they're. They're better than the opposite.
C
They really are. And I mean, you just got to be kind to yourself in those situations.
B
Ben asks, what's the one thing first time Dancing with the Stars contestants are
C
never prepared for the workload, the hours, how much it will hurt your body, how much you will need ice baths and massages all season long. I mean, the list goes on. Plus dance shoes. They haven't ever worn dance shoes before. That's not a regular shoe. That's like, you know, your toes are in a dance shoe. It's like there's things that your body has to get used to for sure.
B
Aya asked, is there ever drama or tension between partners? Do you get to pick your partner? No, no.
C
If we got to pick our partners, we would be like, I want him. No, we never get to pick our partners. It's a good process, though. I think that they put people together based on personality, heavily based on height as well. We have had some funny situations before, but usually it's height, personality. And they also know who is gonna go far. So, you know, they know the celebs that are gonna be, you know, well liked.
B
Well, I'm sure there's tension between, you know.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
I mean, there's no way you're in a competitive situation where you both gotta bring it.
C
Yeah, no, I.
B
And especially you hate each other.
C
You know, I've never been in a situation where I'm like, oh, my God.
A
Well.
C
Well, no, it has been somewhere. I'm just like, this guy isn't giving me anything.
A
Right.
C
Like, you're late, you've made me wait three hours.
B
Oh, wow.
C
You're eating chicken wings on the. On the thing when I'm just sitting there, you know, waiting for you to start rehearsal. And I know he's not gonna get it, you know, in time. So that puts more stress on me. Yeah. There's been situations like that where people.
B
That is stressful.
C
Very. Because I'm the one. It comes down to me on, you know, Monday night when we go live, if you look like shit, that's. That's on me. You know, that's my job that I failed at. So that's why I'm like, hurry up. Let's go. But that's only, like, one person that I had.
B
Riley wants to know, if you could give one piece of advice to someone about to go on Dancing with the Stars, what would it be to
C
really open up and be authentic with the audience? You don't want to go in closed off, hiding something, not being an open book. Because if you're an open book and people can see your journey authentically throughout those, what, 11 weeks or whatever, then you have a chance of winning the show. You know, they want to see a big transformation. They want to see you open up. They want to see you cry. They want to see you sit in the corner and be like, I can't do this. You know, this is way too hard for me. I'm gonna fail. And then, you know, the next day, you're. You're killing it.
B
You're back at it. Yeah.
A
Yeah. I think it's why the show has done so incredibly well. Because there's. You get to.
C
As a.
A
As a viewer, watch people put the work in. Yeah. Like, get gratification out of it.
C
Right.
A
So it's like you have this. You're watching this person's journey. You're watching them bust their ass, and then you're cheering from them. Yeah. It's like, it really is. I think that there's something that people get out of it. It's not just like, you know, sitting there watching a TV show unfold. Like, you become so vested in it. And I think it's why the show's done so well. Cause people connect with everyone that they see.
C
Yeah, I think so, too. It's like an evolution of that person you see over 11 weeks. And they want to see those trials and tribulations, and they want to see. They want to see how hard it is that I want to see somebody, like, just killing it every rehearsal, every week. Like, that's not exciting, you know? So, yeah, the show is what it is because it also caters to someone as young as 4 years old or something to 94 years old who still love watching the show.
B
We always ask every guest before they go, if you could give advice to your 10 year old self, what would it be?
C
Never give up on the big dreams because there's, there's little things along the way that I would hope for myself as I was growing up. But the big ones I never thought would actually come true, they would be there, but I would never be like, yeah, I'm gonna own a beauty company and run it one day. Like, I knew it could be an option, but I didn't know that it was. It could be a reality for me. You know, I didn't come from any type of wealth or anything like that. Everything I own is what I've bought for myself and I can really, I feel really proud of that, that, you know, I haven't got daddy's credit card. I never had bills paid for me when I was 18 years old. As soon as I left the house, it was on me. You know, essentially I was making more money than my parents when I was 17, 18 on tour. So. Yeah. And to just, just never stop believing in what you really want to do. I know, that's so cliche.
B
No, it's not. But I believe it. I mean, the amount of affirmations my parents gave me, like that's the one thing especially my mom was like, you can do anything.
C
Yeah, you really can. My mom would always say, the world's your oyster, Peter. Just go out and do it. Hard work though. They would always say nothing comes easy without hard work. So you're amazing.
B
Make sure and follow PETA on Instagram. It's P E T a M U R G A T R O Y D. Everybody knows her. Thank you, PETA Jane beauty. Right now, PETA's company and my company wise, we have a little winter. It's like a little winter bundle. It's called by Winter Uglies.
A
Yes.
B
And it's wise beauty.com and petajanebeauty.com I'm going to get into it. You're going to get your expads to prep. Yes, Prep her skin, moisturize, do your thing, exfoliate. Then you're going to get your tanning mist. And the two together are $32. So it's a limited time. So we're doing a little bundle because I'm obsessed with her tanning.
C
Thank you.
B
I do the medium great.
C
Me too.
B
I mean, I know Some have light, some have darker. But we're very excited. It's not gonna turn your orange. If you don't trust me, do the gradual so you will trust me. More importantly, only PETA. But thank you. I mean, we're so excited to have you on. And congrats on everything because you really have made it, you know, you're a beautiful girl, beautiful children, beautiful family.
C
Thank you so much.
B
Hot husband. Well, congrats on everybody. Peter, Jane. Amazing. Donate to me, girls.
A
Thank you.
C
You too.
B
Until next week, ladies and gentlemen. I love you. See you next week.
A
I'll see you next week.
B
Thanks for listening to Lipstick on the Rim with Molly Sims and my Ride or Die Emma Sha Gormley. We are so excited to bring you guys along on this journey with us. You can find us on Instagram and TikTok at Lipstick on the Rim and Molly B. Sims or you go to my blog where you can dive just a little bit deeper into my favorite products, trends and more@mollysims.subsect.com don't forget to check out our video episodes on my YouTube channel, Molly Sims. This podcast is production with Sony Music. I wanted to give a special thanks to my team, Rosie Cummings, Kenna Ryan, Sophie Kevorkin and everyone at Sony Music. Don't forget to listen and follow wherever you get your podcasts so you never miss out on the.
Lipstick on the Rim – Episode Summary
DWTS Peta Murgatroyd’s Beauty + Wellness Routine: Dry Skin Staples, Serums, & Red Light
Date: February 24, 2026
In this lively and candid episode of Lipstick on the Rim, hosts Molly Sims and Emese Gormley sit down with professional dancer, mom, and beauty entrepreneur Peta Murgatroyd (best known from Dancing With The Stars). Peta shares her journey from a disciplined ballet upbringing to Broadway and TV fame, dives into her beauty and wellness routines (including her love for serums and peptides), and offers practical self-tanning tips from her company PETA Jane Beauty. The conversation is packed with insights about resilience, body image, postpartum confidence, motherhood, and actionable beauty advice—served with warmth, humor, and empowerment.
Early Start and Discipline
“I started in a Russian ballet academy. I mean, this was get your leg up to your ear or you're out of class type of thing. … It was a very intense part of my childhood, but it’s literally what made me.” (C, 08:43)
Transition to the US and DWTS
“They came to the show and saw the show on Broadway … and then I signed the contract after Broadway and that was it.” (C, 06:10)
Inside DWTS
“Really open up and be authentic with the audience … if you're an open book … you have a chance of winning the show.” (C, 41:52)
Balancing Training and Motherhood
“I’m just exhausted and … trying to make the gym happen every day, but I’m failing right now.” (C, 13:48)
Fitness Routine
“I lift weights. I’m not shy to be, you know, with the big bar on my back doing squats.” (C, 15:09)
Resilience Lessons from Dance
Skincare Staples
“[My mom] would say, moisturize or you’re going to get wrinkles. … I have really dry skin, right? Super dry. More than you would ever think. So I’m moisturizing constantly throughout the day.” (C, 20:32)
Favorite Products
Supplements & Wellness
“Oregano oil … under my tongue and for the back of the throat just to like kill any infections …” (C, 25:24)
Why She Launched Her Own Brand
“I just need to make this better for people … getting the dry time to be within seconds took a while … to get the color just right.” (C, 27:37)
Pro Tanning Tips
“Do an area first, then do this area, then move to the chest.” (C, 35:37)
Postpartum Body & Confidence
“I tell myself to be kind to myself … words have weight. … you need to speak highly of yourself.” (C, 39:07)
On Body Changes
On Resilience from Dance Training
“You gotta be the best. Or if you're not first, you're last. So that's the mentality.” (C, 12:17)
On Beauty Rituals and Advice
“If my makeup routine takes longer than five minutes, there is no way it’s happening.” (A, 17:16)
On Postpartum Self-Talk
“Be kind to yourself … words have weight.” (C, 39:07)
On Authenticity for DWTS Contestants
“Be authentic with the audience … if you’re an open book and people can see your journey … you have a chance of winning.” (C, 41:52)
Advice to Her 10-Year-Old Self
“Never give up on the big dreams … just never stop believing in what you really want to do.” (C, 43:32)
This episode offers a relatable, honest look at how discipline, self-care, and community shape both professional success and personal wellbeing. Peta’s practical wisdom—from mastering the perfect self-tan to intuitive self-kindness—makes this a must-listen for beauty enthusiasts, dancers, and moms alike.
Follow Peta Murgatroyd on Instagram: @petamurgatroyd
Try the PETA Jane Beauty x Wise “Winter Uglies” bundle for self-tanning essentials (petajanebeauty.com/wisebeauty.com).