Lipstick on the Rim: "It's Never Too Late To Find Your Person" (October 21, 2025)

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This episode of Lipstick on the Rim dives into the intricacies, challenges, and joys of finding love—at any age or stage. Hosts Molly Sims and Emese Gormley candidly share their personal journeys to meeting their husbands later in life, breaking down myths about timelines and “being behind,” and offering actionable advice for listeners who are single, dating, divorced, or just feeling discouraged about finding their person. Their message is clear: It’s never too late, and the journey is uniquely yours.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. There’s No Timeline for Love

• Molly and Emese stress that societal expectations about when you should settle down are outdated.
  • Both hosts married later than most of their friends and emphasize that "it's never too late."
  • (03:24 - 03:30, Molly Sims & Emese Gormley)
    "It's never too late." – Molly
    "Never too late, that I can say. Never too late." – Emese

2. Early Dating Experiences & Learning From the Past

• Both women reflect on their 20s and 30s, sharing the messiness and growth that happened through various relationships.
  • Molly describes herself as a serial monogamist, constantly on the go, and dating great guys but never quite feeling it was right.
  • Emese talks about the pitfalls of overanalyzing communication:
    (05:51, Emese Gormley)
    "If you're overthinking it, it's not working."
  • Advice: Date a lot in your 20s. As Molly puts it:
    (09:05, Molly Sims & Emese Gormley)
    "Date a lot. The more you date, the more you find out what you don't like—and then figure out what you do like."

3. Core Values & Compatibility (Especially Money!)

• The hosts argue aligning on values, especially financial views, is critical.
  • Molly: "Are you fucking cheap? Right? Could never, ever, ever. If you can't buy me a cup of coffee or a steak..." (07:28, Molly Sims)
  • Emese shares a story about covering a bill to hide her date's inability to pay, reflecting on how financial values are often early warning signs in relationships.

4. Growing Into Yourself

• Both hosts talk about how, through travel and new experiences in their 20s/30s, they learned what they wanted and who they were.
  • Molly shares a story about embracing different lifestyles for partners, even pretending to like Heineken and sleeping in a camper, only to realize she needed to be true to herself.
    (09:15, Molly Sims)
    "Trust me, I am a fucking chameleon...I did it."

5. Meeting Their Husbands: Real-Life, Not a Fairytale

• Molly’s Story:
  • Dated a lot, including a painful breakup and a French fiancé who remained a close friend. She finally met Scott after a rough breakup, at age 35.
  • Emese wrote most of Molly’s text messages when she was dating (16:33).
  • Recall of first meeting, recounting humorous anecdotes about Scott’s tube socks and lack of fashion sense (18:32).
  • Key moment: After dating, Molly realized it was different:
    (20:06, Molly Sims)
    "Because I wasn't crazy... He was just very calming for me. He was the first time I dated a man."
• Emese’s Story:
  • Met Mike when she wasn’t “in the mood” to go out, not dressed up, and was just herself.
  • He bought dinner for everyone, contrasting her previous experiences with “cheap” dates.
  • She shared, upfront, that she wanted marriage and kids. He may have been annoyed, but didn’t run away.
    (26:14, Emese Gormley)
    "If you have that conversation and it scares him away, he wasn't your person."

6. The Importance of Timing & Readiness

• Life stages matter and timing is everything.
  • They stress: Sometimes it's about the "right person, right time," but often it's just about who you both are at a given stage.
  • (32:22, Molly Sims & Emese Gormley)
    "There's not a timeline." -- Molly
    "No timeline." -- Emese
  • Molly underscores that different phases may require different partners (“different people for different phases of our life” at 39:44).

7. Walking Away and “The Talk”

• If you want different things, don’t compromise your big needs; have “the talk” when needed.
  • Accept that if a man runs after you say what you want, “he’s not your person.”
  • (26:46, Emese Gormley)
    "If you have that conversation and it scares him away, he wasn't your person."

8. No One is “Behind”; Heartbreak Has Purpose

• Past relationships, even the hard ones, are valuable growth.
  • (38:31, Molly Sims)
    "The past, heartbreaks, lessons. Everything had a purpose, right? Everything you go through, but you're not behind. You're not broken. You're not out of time."

9. Becoming the Person Ready for Love

• Emese reflects that it's not about seeking an ideal; rather, being the version of you that is ready for the right relationship.
  (37:56, Emese Gormley):
  "Sometimes it's not about finding the right person, but becoming the version of who you are and who's ready for them then."

10. Practical Wisdom: Treat Dating Like a Job

• “If you’re single, you have to treat dating like a job.” (36:32, Molly Sims)
  • Make an effort, show up, don’t expect it to land in your lap.

11. Later-in-Life Dating & Patience

• If you meet someone later or have been single a long time, be patient—you’re both more set in your ways.
  • Little things can magnify if you’re rigid. Choose your battles and stay open (41:57, Emese Gormley).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you’re overthinking it, it’s not working.” — Emese Gormley (05:51)
• “Are you fucking cheap? ...If you can't buy me a fucking cup of coffee or a steak...” — Molly Sims (07:28)
• “I could pretend like I liked Heineken and live in a camper. I did it.” — Molly Sims (09:15)
• “Because I wasn’t crazy... He was just very calming for me. He was the first time I dated a man.” — Molly Sims (20:06)
• “If you have that conversation and it scares him away, he wasn’t your person.” — Emese Gormley (26:14)
• “There’s no timeline.” — Molly Sims (32:19)
• “You're not behind. You're not broken. You're not out of time. One of our best friends met the love of her life at 52 years old.” — Molly Sims (38:31)
• “Sometimes it's not about finding the right person, but it's about becoming the version of who you are and who's ready for them then.” — Emese Gormley (37:56)
• “Treat dating like a job. You have to put yourself out there. You have to make an effort.” — Molly Sims (36:32)

Important Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:10 — Episode theme: "It's never too late to find your person."
• 04:24 — Early dating philosophies, “serial monogamist” phase.
• 07:24 — Money talk: value alignment as a relationship deal-breaker.
• 09:05 — Why dating a lot in your 20s matters.
• 16:24 — How Molly met her husband Scott Stuber.
• 20:06 — How Molly knew it was different this time.
• 24:33 — Emese meets Mike in the Hamptons, on a "worst mood ever" night.
• 26:14 — Importance of the “state your intentions” talk.
• 32:19 — Reflections on timing, life stages, and dating "no timeline."
• 33:56 — You can't change anyone; don't expect to.
• 36:32 — “Treat dating like a job.”
• 38:31 — No such thing as being "behind."
• 39:44 — “Different people for different phases of our life.”
• 41:57 — Later-in-life dating means more patience.
• 43:06 — Heartbreak as growth (Molly catatonic after breakup).
• 44:17 — Classic dating advice: play the game—“make them pay!”

Overall Tone & Reassurance

The conversation is relatable, candid, and laced with humor—like best friends swapping stories over a glass of wine. Molly and Emese keep it real about heartbreak, dating disasters, and the joy of finally finding a relationship that fits. They reinforce throughout: your journey is yours, don’t compare to others, and most importantly, don’t give up or lose yourself in the process.

Final Takeaways

• There is truly no expiration date for love, partnership, or personal happiness.
• Stay true to your values and don’t compromise on what genuinely matters to you.
• If you want a relationship, put yourself out there and be proactive.
• Don’t settle, don’t try to change people, and don’t ignore red flags.
• Be patient—with yourself and with a new partner, especially if you’re both established in your ways later in life.
• Every heartbreak and detour along the way only brings you closer to what you need.

Listeners are encouraged to reach out and submit questions for future episodes, solidifying the supportive, girlfriend-to-girlfriend spirit that defines the show.