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Tara
I don't want to talk about it.
Pamela
Ma, this town sucks.
Dave
I hate it here.
Pamela
Why do you have to move here?
Tara
I want to go back to New Jersey. I miss Dad. I told you to stay out of my room. Ma, this town is horse crap. This town is full of dorks. It is January 1991. Oh, shit. You're moving again? Yes.
Dave
It's.
Tara
What?
Renee
Oh, no.
Pamela
Why do they do this to me every time I hate my life. Listen to Sassy. A genuine spit take. That'll teach me for thinking. Oh, settle in. The diarist has begun.
Tara
Oh, boy. This diarist.
Renee
This diarist.
Pamela
Hope it all works out for them.
Renee
Really, just going through it all the time.
Tara
I mean, I'm hoping for a combine accident where she loses her hands, if you know what I mean.
Pamela
You know, a lot of our beloved shows at one point change the opening.
Tara
Credits because Seinfeld lost the opening act.
Pamela
Yeah, you know, we don't talk about the Cosby show, but, you know, you would look forward to the new intro.
Tara
You know, how's he dancing this time?
Pamela
How many McFerrens?
Tara
Yeah, well, we'll see what the future holds. All right, so it's January 1991. We're all getting ready for a slumber party. We got two quizzes to get through because of holiday machinations. So I say we just dip right into this first one.
Renee
That sounds good to me. The first quiz is from December 1990. This is, of course, we will recall, the reader produced issue, and it shows this. This quiz is how wasteful are you? I highlighted question number three, which is it's another Saturday morning. You A, sleep until noon, then talk on the phone for two hours, B, watch TV and bake some chocolate chip cookies. C, clean your room, finish your term paper and call your grandmother. What does any of this have to do with wastefulness? Like h, some of these questions are about wasting time, which does not seem relevant to. To A quiz about how wasteful you are is a B. I would do all of those on Saturdays. That's one Saturday for me. Honestly, that sounds pretty good.
Tara
Don't work on Saturday, especially Saturday morning. That's terrible. It's a terrible feeling to have to get up to work. Sometimes it's unavoidable. Yes, but damn, living your life around, waking up and doing some work, just, you know, because, man, soul crushing.
Renee
Sure. I'm not saying wake up on purpose to do work, but if you're up and you have something you can knock off your list.
Pamela
Dave.
Renee
See, you don't understand. Since I've changed my calendar, and I now have my reminders integrated into my calendar as a little thing that when I do them, they just poof away instead of on a. Post it on my desk. Yeah, I'm a different person now.
Tara
You know, there might be a way to script it on your computer so that when you do that, it does other things. Like maybe confetti falls from the top of the monitor or something like that. Or the lights in your office strobe on and off or something like. We could do more. Set up more Pavlovian mechanics into this for you.
Renee
Well, let's talk about this offline. I'll also say, as we're recording this, it is Friday, and I rescheduled a haircut that was supposed to be on Wednesday evening at the very civilized time of 5:45pm which is my preference. And I changed it because I thought we were going to have a big taping of Extra Hot Grade on Thursday. And then that changed, and now I rescheduled my haircut for 9:30am on Saturday. I'm already mad about it.
Tara
Yeah, that's a dump.
Renee
It was dumb, you big dummy. Am I so vain it's too late to change it, so I just have to go get my hair cut.
Tara
Wait, who am I? Sanford, you big dummy.
Renee
I think so, yeah.
Tara
Okay, let's go with Sanford.
Renee
Yeah.
Tara
It's quiz time. Oh, yes.
Dave
Me.
Renee
Yeah.
Tara
Number five is mine. Your parents take you at a dinner buffet. Shut up, Pam.
Pamela
I've missed you too, dude.
Tara
Welcome back, number five. Your parents take you on a dinner buffet. So far, this one's speaking to me. A buffet was definitely something the Coles were interested in in 1990.
Renee
Sure.
Tara
You, A, take only a little bit of food at a time. You can always go back for more. B, take a huge load of food and eat half of it. Your eyes are always bigger than your stomach. C, take too much, but bring what you don't eat home to the dog. Or. Or Dave's Edition. D, take a lot of food, eat.
Dave
A lot of food.
Tara
I don't know who wrote this. I couldn't imagine a scenario where you take a lot of food. And then. Because you're at a buffet and it actually does change your brain chemistry. While you're there, you eat a lot of food. Even if that a lot of food is way more than you should be eating at this moment in time. Even if your body is sending you those oh, I'm full, please stop eating signals. And then you're like, I don't think so, because we're at Ponderosa or whatever we were at back in these days. Or if it was today, we were at Sweet Tomatoes. I shan't be listening to you, brain.
Renee
No. This is why we go to Tucson. To eat so much. We feel sick every day.
Tara
Pam, we're going back to Tucson. You gonna come?
Pamela
Never. Tucson for Tucson. Is that what you guys.
Tara
Yeah. She's telling jokes to avoid the subject because she doesn't want to go cuz she's beneath her.
Pamela
No, I. Well, my parents.
Tara
That's all right, Pam. We'll take this offline.
Pamela
Dinner buffets. But let's just say the hotel kid is used to a buffet. So this for me was never like, eat all you can eat. In fact, even this weekend when I'm looking at a buffet, I think it never can do. Eggs, it's just a tray of wet yellow goo. Feeding bulk foods is difficult. And particularly in breakfast format, they're not going to be what you're looking for.
Renee
Sweaty toast, sweaty toast, sweaty toast. The bacon is never crispy enough.
Tara
Rubbery eggs, you're right.
Pamela
Yeah, you could. You could bounce the sausage around like it's a ball. But I do remember when Vegas, like the first time you go around a Vegas buffet, which is, you know, as ridiculous as the rest of Vegas, where they're like, seafood buffet, and you're like.
Dave
Just get a whole lobster.
Pamela
Put your arm in, take a lobster back to your table, eat the lobster while you walk. Chewy would plan our Vegas trips around the seafood buffet at the Rio, and he would yell at you. It's like, no carbs. Do not get a piece of bread. No rolls, nothing. Just seafood. Make it worth the price you paid.
Tara
Did you give him a hard time for being a plant, dad?
Pamela
No. I mean, we were 22. We were so excited. We had our whole lives ahead of us. Nobody's thinking about consequences of our actions.
Tara
Look, when you go to a buffet, you have to go to the right type of buffet. And there's certain foods that do very well at a buffet. Certainly a salad bar, as long as it's actually being used, is a good bet. Indian food, that's great because longer Indian food sits around, the tastier it gets fresh.
Renee
That is.
Pamela
That's true.
Tara
So pick your battles. Breakfast at a hotel, no, thank you. Never like a muffin is muffin time. Forget it, Marge. It's muffin time. All right, what's yours, Pam?
Pamela
Number nine. Not to get too personal. This is a jiminy glick. Not to get too personal, but what kind of razor do you use. I'm up on the chair. Oh, my God.
Tara
What kind of.
Pamela
What kind of razor do you use?
Renee
Is it the plastic?
Tara
Who's this character? Who's this?
Renee
Who's got a Jiminy Glick? Lauren.
Pamela
Lauren, it's my five minutes. B, I do not shave. Or C, a metal razor with disposable blades. So now I don't know why all of. Listen to Sassy has been my shaving history, my legacy of shaving. But did I mention that I tried C recently?
Tara
What is C again?
Pamela
C is a metal razor with disposable blades. That's what I do.
Tara
I don't like. Okay, like, the Wilkerson type of blades you stick on top. Like the. Like, I gotta put this in your apple in Halloween kind of blade.
Pamela
Yes.
Tara
Yeah. Okay.
Renee
Oh, that's not what I do.
Pamela
So I don't know how I got into my head where I was like, yeah, why am I.
Renee
You're right, Sassy.
Pamela
Like, why am I using plastic razor blades in the year of our Barbie? Like, we can move on from this. And so I tried whatever Instagram had clearly been listening to my thoughts about, and it was a metal razor. And then you put the thing in. First of all. Yes. First, you're putting in just, like, danger blades, Halloween blades into a thing. And while I'm scrolling up my leg, I'm like, I don't feel anything. Like, I don't know. I don't know that. What's the pressure? What's the angle? Because you only know it from the commercials.
Tara
Yeah, there's no beard to start with.
Pamela
Yeah, there's no beard to start with. And no, like, blades or little wicks of hair flinging out of this thing.
Tara
Yeah, they're doing it like it's an Olympic sport in the commercials. Like, like, you wouldn't have skin anymore if you tried it that way.
Pamela
So I'm trying again with just, like, a little more angle and a little more pressure again. You're in a shower, you're wet, you're bent over. This is never a great angle for shaving anyway.
Tara
And then that's the start of a female prison movie.
Pamela
But all right, that's right, that's right. So I go, I guess that's it. You know, I'm smoothing. I'm like, I guess I did it. Maybe that's it. It's so good, you don't even know you're shaving. I get out and I go, oh. Because I had a massage after. Not to be too fancy, but I was in A massage or whatever. And so I lay right down. And then when I have to flip over, maybe when she's done, there's blood all over these sheets. Blood all over these sheets.
Tara
Good massage.
Pamela
And I look at my. My knees have been bleeding.
Dave
Oh.
Pamela
Like, I had stigmata from the knees. And so she comes back in. I was like, hey, did you notice that I was bleeding everywhere? She was like, I didn't know what you were into. Because she knows me. She was like. I just was like, oh, she must fallen. Or she's trying something with her knees. But yeah, there was blood everywhere.
Tara
Trying something with her knees.
Pamela
She. Like I said, she knows me. She's the reason I know about, like, tulsi teas and all this stuff. She's the one who puts crystals in my hands when we do massages. So, you know, she was like, knee bloodletting. I don't know. Let's try. I was ready to try it. So, yeah, I was like, no. I tried a metal razor and she was like, oh, honey.
Tara
But did you have a moment of introspection where you're like, I am bleeding. And this person thought it was just another one of my juju things that I do, and you weren't like, oh, shit. Why does she think that? And what if it was much worse and I didn't actually, you know, I wasn't able to, like, get out of this, Dave.
Pamela
It would all be my fault. I know that.
Tara
Okay.
Pamela
She's. It's okay. I just had to explain to her, sorry about all that bleeding. I tried a new razor and. Yeah, back to the disposable plastic ones. Five blades, they travel well. And at no point do you have to figure out how to chop your knees off.
Tara
I have another question, and I'm a little scared to ask it. Why were you shaving your knees?
Pamela
What are you talking about?
Renee
Well, they're part of your leg.
Pamela
Can you imagine if you.
Tara
I don't have any hair on my knees. Like, on your kneecaps.
Renee
You do.
Pamela
You do, Marge. You have knees.
Tara
I'm gonna check right now.
Pamela
Maybe you've worn them off. Like an old man with a sock. Look at him. I mean, look at him. He's never looked at his knee.
Tara
I know this is not a video podcast, but on the actual, like, are we talking the kneecap or just, like, the knee area?
Pamela
You pointed at your kneecap and said, I have hair here. I think we could stop right now.
Tara
I said, I don't.
Pamela
No, but you have hair.
Tara
Fine, fine, fine.
Renee
Yeah, okay. I mean, I Just felt my knee and I haven't shaved in a couple of days. And there, there's. There. It's true. There isn't on the actual cap, but there is definitely around the sides. You have to shave your whole leg.
Pamela
Okay.
Tara
All right.
Dave
Okay.
Pamela
Yeah. And my mom wouldn't let me shave. I was allowed 2 inches above the knee when I was a kid and I wasn't allowed to shave past there. And I don't still, I don't shave past that little spot. I don't shave past my knee bump. That's true, Dave. I don't go up my thigh or anything, but up to there where the knee sock line is, that's where I shave. And that part is curvy. And curvy.
Tara
So if. And I. God, I hope this never happens. I see you naked, is it going to look like you basically have hairy bike shorts?
Renee
No, she's blonde. She probably doesn't have that much hair on her legs. Blonde, hairy shirts, even the parts that she does shave. Honestly, you've seen me in a bathing suit, Dave.
Dave
Yeah.
Pamela
As much as you have tried to avoid.
Tara
No, no, no. When I, when I, when we're on the beach in Hawaii to do that, I have automated pixel vision.
Pamela
He does these venetian blinds come down over his face.
Tara
Yeah.
Pamela
And he walks into things and it's a delight.
Tara
Yeah. Look at those glasses. Like they wear for snow blindness when we're on the beach. Just so I can only see a tiny little bit of Pam at a time.
Pamela
Share a little bit of yourself. And this is what you get.
Renee
Anyway, not to get too personal, how did everyone. What were everyone's results on the quiz? I got 12, which is right in the middle.
Tara
Yeah.
Renee
So you're not a total zero when it comes to being wasteful, but as you probably already know, you could be infinitely better. I know you'll puke if you hear one more self righteous thing about the environment. No, I won't. But it is kind of extremely important, so don't ignore it. And though we know it's easier said than done, try to think before you consume and not the other way around. I'm going to say one third of this quiz question. This quiz's questions were about that. And the rest of it was wasting time or other people's time.
Tara
Right.
Pamela
It was like an ADHD diagnosis on.
Renee
A lot of these.
Pamela
Like, do you spend more time fixing your posters than doing your homework? You know, how long do you just spend on the phone before you realize I've been on the phone all day? I also got in the middle. I got 15 because I did in both of these. I remembered like you're answer like you're 15 again. And do it, do it how you do it.
Tara
There's a little thinker. Next quiz. Let's go.
Renee
Wait, you didn't say what you got.
Tara
I got in the middle as well.
Pamela
Okay, I don't want to waste our time, Tara. Let's move on.
Renee
Fair enough. Next quiz from January 1991. This one was written by Kim, an actual staffer at the magazine. It is about how high is your self esteem?
Pamela
Pam, number 12 asks, so you and this guy break up and after a month he starts seeing someone else. Do you become a victim of what she have that I don't have? Disease. Constantly comparing yourself to her and hating your guts.
Tara
Her guts.
Pamela
I'm sorry. Thank you. And hating her guts? Yes. A, even if I don't want to get back together with the guy. B, well, it's hard not to do that stuff. Just a little. Or C, no. Once a guy's out of my life, he's out of my head too. That's weird. I can't even.
Tara
What?
Renee
What is that one? Who is that? Who? Pam scratched that option off on her. On her copy of the quiz. There's absolutely no way.
Tara
Yeah, she's like totally doing the thing like in Catch me if you can, where she's like erasing it and buying electricet and putting new words in there. She just can't believe it from a philosophical standpoint, while in her mind it's.
Renee
Like a fly eye view of every guy that she's ever talked to.
Tara
We're waiting for you, Pam.
Pamela
I'm making films about them. These people are in my current artistic expression.
Tara
Yeah, you probably owe them some money.
Pamela
I don't know. I think I'm just not being wasteful.
Tara
All right, that was fair.
Pamela
How can you even. I don't. Okay. I don't go all the way to hating her. I don't hate her.
Dave
I don't hate.
Pamela
There's very few. I can't even remember. No, I might hate him for it.
Tara
Sure. What if the person that he hooked up with later was like a baby eater? They ate babies. That was their thing. Would you hate her then?
Pamela
Well, I didn't hate her for him dumping me for her.
Tara
Well, it's nice that you can separate the art from the artist.
Pamela
You know, her crime wasn't that the baby hate eating. Yeah, I can hate that.
Tara
Yeah, well, they are delicious. Number 13. How often do you try out for Teams or plays. A, not now, not ever. B, constantly. C, occasionally. I don't know why they felt the need to, like, not do them in order. That's the thing I just noticed that bothers me. It should be not now or not now, occasionally, constantly. I don't want to tell Sassy their business anymore. No, I do, actually.
Pamela
I think this is how we feel as a teenager. It's yes, no, or maybe that's what do you want to go with me? Yes, no, or maybe. Maybe is the third one. If you've had your extreme feelings and.
Tara
Now think maybe that's the parent trap. That's how you know if they answer. C is like, my mom and dad are taking the test. They took the middle option. That's why we can't have good things. That's why we need a third party in this country. God damn it. All right, so how often do you trial for teams or plays? The answer is below zero. No, thank you.
Renee
Yeah, I'm not surprised by that. But at the other end.
Tara
Beep. Explanation trucks backing up. What about me made you say it like that?
Renee
No, I'm not surprised. That's what I would have thought you would say.
Tara
That's not how you said it, though.
Pamela
She said you're not a joiner. She said you're not a joiner. I mean, I think she was. I didn't hear. I had no questions with that tone.
Renee
Dave, Dave, I've known you for 30 years. Do you think I don't know that you would never try out for a play on including at gunpoint? I do know that about it felt.
Tara
Like a value judgment.
Pamela
Did you have to try out for roller derby?
Renee
No.
Pamela
Did you have to try out at all? You just. It jumped in. And the second that they were like, we're having a tryout sport. You were like, oh, I hurt myself by tar.
Tara
Tried, and within 10 seconds she fractured her arm. And then she looked at me, says, you got to go in my place now. So I did.
Renee
That's not what happened.
Tara
But no, there's no. I mean, I never made the team. I was just skating at practice. I never was on a team. I still don't know how roller derby actually works. I never actually did Eddie Derby. I did going around the track and yeah, all right, now it's time to do Frankenstein's. I'm like, what the fuck is a Frankenstein?
Dave
I did.
Pamela
I practiced for a long time before I ever learned how the game was. But I had signed up for about and was training, but it was like, I wonder how you. I wonder how this works.
Renee
What are Frankenstein's.
Tara
You're skating and you put two of your arms forward and then kick with one more legs. So you're skating on one leg, but you look like Frankenstein walking.
Renee
Oh, okay.
Tara
Arms out. One leg out.
Renee
That sounds dangerous.
Pamela
One way ticket to concussion.
Tara
That's what I thought. I don't have. I don't have the dexterity or the balance to pull off of Frankenstein. You know, maybe Frankenstein's creature. Maybe. But, you know, we all know Frankenstein had bad bones.
Renee
Yeah. Why they had to bolt some of them in.
Tara
No, no, no. That's Frankenstein's creature there.
Renee
Oh, God.
Tara
You idiot. You fucking idiot.
Renee
What's yours?
Pamela
He.
Renee
Did you say something really stupid?
Tara
How about that?
Dave
What is opinion?
Renee
You care deeply about Frankenstein. For how long does the dopey comment haunt you? Well, these 10 seconds gonna haunt me for the rest of the day, that's for sure. In the sense that it's going to be repeated back to me that long.
Pamela
But no, it says it. It says to someone whose opinion you deeply care about. So don't worry about it, Tara.
Renee
Well, I wasn't gonna say that part, but the options are, A, a minute or two, B, a day or two, C, a year or two. There is, once again, no option D, forever. You will randomly think of it 35 years later and be embarrassed all over again.
Pamela
It's so true.
Renee
It never stops.
Pamela
Never stops.
Tara
Well, I think this is. This is a youthful quiz maker.
Renee
Sure.
Tara
Problem.
Renee
That's true.
Tara
Yeah.
Pamela
A year or two is forever. Oh.
Renee
Anyway, once again, I got in the middle and I did 12 exactly the same on both of the quizzes. So that put me in the middle category here. I'm mostly okay, but I could do better.
Tara
Tara's happy with the consistency.
Pamela
I can't. I can't find my result, but I feel like I was on the high end of the middle.
Tara
Yeah, I also. I feel like I get into the middle for 80% of these, at least.
Pamela
Yes.
Tara
Yeah.
Renee
Unless you're a freak. I think unless you're a freak, you're not an admirer.
Pamela
What was it about? Boy crazy.
Renee
What?
Pamela
What was it? Should we take that course again?
Tara
Look, babies. All right, let's get to your calls.
Dave
Yeah.
Renee
Enough about us. Let's start with our teen life calls. When I sat down last night to get our all of these calls ready, I was like, wow, there's really quite a. I forgot we had not done one of these since October 9th.
Pamela
Wow.
Renee
It was a quite a backlog. Anyway, let's Start with Renee.
Dave
Hi, this is Renee in Pittsburgh. And I agree, Vancouver is terrible. You know, nothing starts on time there. Like, they say something opens at 9, but they're not open at 9 because people just, like, roll up whenever they feel like it. And also when I was there, I got my finger stuck in the window of a taxi cab, and then I. On my way to an Indonesian restaurant, and then I had to ice my hand in a glass of water while I was waiting for my food. And that is, like, the only memory I have of Vancouver there for a whole week. And that's the only thing I can think about. Nothing open on time. And I hurt my little hand. So, Vancouver, Pittsburgh. Thank you.
Tara
I mean, it'll be. I hate to defend Vancouver, but I feel like only 50% of your problems with Vancouver are Vancouver's fault.
Renee
Still, I can. You can understand why. Why that would lodge in your mind as a minus of Vancouver.
Tara
Absolutely. Where did this. Did she say she's from Pittsburgh? Are we sure? Let's listen again.
Dave
Hi, this is Renee in Pittsburgh, and.
Tara
I don't know, I heard Titsburg.
Renee
Let's say that's probably the phone. Anyway. Yes. Nothing starts on time. Is this is a. A Renee after my own heart. That is a perfectly good thing to complain about. It's really annoying.
Tara
Yeah. If you live in a city that doesn't get up soon enough or get up when they say they're going to. Or goes to bed too early.
Renee
Yeah.
Tara
It gets to you after a little bit. Yeah. And post Covid. That's a big problem with the latter part of that. Although apparently Austin just this week. Just this week regained their first 24 hour diner.
Renee
Is that true?
Tara
Yeah. This is what nobody likes, but, you know, at least it's out there.
Renee
Okay.
Tara
Yeah.
Renee
Should go and have their bad eggs. Of course, that was, you know, presumably they would be made to order. Not at a buffet situation. All right, let's hear from Erin.
Dave
Hi, my name's Erin. Longtime listener, first time caller. I really enjoy you guys podcast. Five to 10 years younger than y'all. I can tell by the pop culture references. And I think you've only just now reached the issue of Sassy, where I started subscribing when I was in, like, ninth grade. I'm looking forward to eventually you'll read an issue where I wrote a letter in. That sounds like I was joking, but I was curious. I'm looking forward to that because that's, like, the first thing I ever had published, which was very exciting for me. I just had a Couple comments I wanted to call in about, like, the driver's ed movie idea. Totally behind it. My driver's ed story is that one of my aunts taught driver's ed at my high school, and I desperately hoped I wouldn't have her for class because there was another teacher who was this, like, old guy who was about to, like, retire. The retired guy would fall asleep while people were driving and sometimes on the highway, so they'd be like, in the next town almost when he woke up. I didn't learn how to drive well from this experience because all of her feedback was like, you drive just like your mom or you drive just like your dad. Ha ha, ha. Took me years to learn how to drive. Well, keep up the good work. Looking forward to the next episode. Thanks.
Renee
I vaguely remember an idea about a driver's ed movie, like a comedy. But you guys have to understand, these things fall out of our heads as soon as they get out of our mind.
Pamela
Like. Like a boy who Bro.
Tara
I was going to say, too busy keeping boy info for driver's ed stories.
Renee
But, oh, my God, that's so funny. You drive just like your mom. That was great. Next, let's hear from Jenny.
Dave
Hey, guys. Jenny from North Carolina calling. Long time. Third time. I just wanted to thank you for that lovely posting of your Eat Through Austin podcast from back in the day. I'm thinking that was maybe 2009. I lived in Austin for 11 years, and I was there during that time, and it was a wonderful memory lane that you guys took me on. I went to all of those places.
Renee
That you went to.
Dave
I ate and drank at all of those places, and I even worked at Freddy's. I saw on your list of places that you went that you guys didn't talk about on the podcast, and it looked like you went to Freddy's. I was probably your waitress, Pam. I probably saw you fall at Amy's because I used to live in that.
Renee
Neighborhood, and I lived close to the.
Dave
Camp Verde place that you guys stayed. And I'm thinking that might have even been before Airbnb existed. But I also love that you went to places that don't exist anymore. Freddy's is one of them. Rip Toy Joy. That is an Austin that does not exist anymore. And it's a perfect moment in time.
Renee
That I will never forget.
Dave
Tara and Dave, you're lucky that you get to experience Austin in a different now. It is a much different place, but equally as special, and I cherish every time I get to go back. I also wanted to mention that you. It looks like you guys had a burger at Casino. Casino is one of my favorite places of all time in Austin. I love that they opened a South side Lounge. Just giving a little plug for that. And I want to say one more thing, Pam. I'm thinking about you and your community. You're hoping that your family and friends are safe and the whole world is watching and thinking about Los Angeles and sending so much love. All right, take care, guys.
Tara
She was talking about your boy troubles.
Renee
Probably not. That was January 14th. So thank you for having Pam in the city in your thoughts toy.
Tara
Joy's still around, just FYI. It's just not in the same place.
Renee
Right.
Pamela
Yeah. Yeah. That's really neat that the casino has like some other place to to go to. Casino's next door to the comedy club. So we were just. That is. You probably saw me there too, Jenny. Like we. We ate there often doing notes in the back when. During my comedy years there. Yep.
Renee
Well, speaking of comedy, we also got some calls about pop culture. Let's hear from Sarah.
Dave
This is Sarah from outside of Chicago. So, Dave, every year for trick or treating I get a non candy option for my trick or treaters. And the last few years I've gone mad with power and have gotten things like kazoos and harmonicas, things that are very loud and obnoxious when cured with sugared up kids because I find that hilarious. Dave, this year I thank you because the kids will be wandering about if they're brand new, slide with them. Thank you so much for your service.
Pamela
Can we go? Can we just listen to Jenny's message again? It was nice.
Renee
Those parents are never taking those kids to your house again probably. Which is.
Pamela
Oh my God.
Renee
That's a very hostile act.
Tara
We could use this as like a anti gentrification devices. Slide whistles at Halloween, don't go to the slide whistle neighborhood. Definitely not giving up free big chocolate bars there. Just slide whistles.
Renee
Next, let's hear from Kelly.
Dave
Hi, listen to Sassy. This is Kelly. I live in northern Michigan now, where your pinky touches your ring finger if you're looking at the back of your left hand. But I grew up in Cincinnati, so I need to let you know that Scentsy is indeed something that locals call Cincinnati. We also sometimes call it the Natty. Usually the nasty Natty. And trivets was amazing. I got some awesome red, white and blue striped bell bottoms there. And with regards to Skyline, we're not actually sure there's chocolate in it. We're sure there's cinnamon. In it. It's a Greek based recipe. And a lot of Greek food reminds me of Skyline. I grew up eating it. I love Skyline. Enough people from Cincinnati have moved to northern Michigan and to Florida that the grocery stores here, and I assume in Florida, sell canned Skyline chili. So we just boil the pasta, open the cans of chili, eat those up, and then it is specifically finely grated, mild cheddar that goes on top. And you're right, it's a ton of it. The oyster crackers have to be Skyline brand. They're very important. And no, no one puts ketchup on it, but they do put hot sauce on it. So maybe that's what the red stuff in the tattoo you were talking about is about. All right, thanks. Bye.
Tara
I saw that in addition to getting cans of Skyline jelly, you can get seasoning packs of Skyline jelly if you want to make your own chili base and stick that in. So there's an option for you too. Kind of made me want to eat a big bowl sky like chili right now. And I do put hot sauce on it, so I'm one of those people.
Renee
That sounds good. We're probably due for another. Another round of chili. It's been Been a month or so.
Dave
Yep.
Renee
Next.
Pamela
Bark.
Tara
I was just listening to your episode, the reader produced episode, and the review for My Blue Heaven, in addition to.
Dave
Being a poster on every video store. Surprised y'all didn't mention that.
Tara
It is a sequel to Goodfellas.
Dave
If you watch one and then the.
Tara
Other, you'll see they go straight into each other's story.
Dave
Just continued. Sykes. Love. Listen, Sassy.
Renee
I love that.
Pamela
Is this a conspiracy theory?
Renee
I think he's saying unofficially it's a sequel, but yes, like, one flows straight into the other.
Tara
I mean, I have to take his word for it. I don't know what My Blue Heaven actually is. Is it like a witness protection program?
Renee
I believe that's the case thing. Okay, yes. It's what happens after you enter the program. Not just egg noodles and ketchup days. Exactly.
Pamela
Thanks for the fun fact, Jenny.
Renee
A different Jenny is next.
Dave
Hey, sassy crew, this is Aiden Haymaker slash evil Jenny. I just listened to the most recent episode that came out at the end of January where there was some discussion about postcards. And I do still send postcards. And I've recently dipped into the huge collection that I had amassed from all the years that I traveled extensively for work and would buy postcards from the cities that I was working in. Anyway, the point of this story is that I have started Sending them to my nieces and my nephew who are, you know, 10, 12, 15 ish range. And at first they were horrified to get postcards and didn't understand what was happening, even though I send them cards. And now they've come to look forward to them. So there is hope for our youth. Love the show, love hearing from you all. Talk to you next time. Bye.
Tara
But the important thing is you have to tell them to keep them somewhere so that when they eventually move out and all that stuff goes to some weird store that they are available for a stranger to buy. That's the important part of the postcard ecosystem.
Renee
It's cute to hear about the nieces though, that, you know, I sort of forget that part that kids love to get mail.
Tara
Is this Hayden Haymaker, Basset Hound rescuer? Yes, She's a good follow if you're on socials. Lots of foster Basset Hound bits.
Renee
Oh man, so sad. Those sad faces are so adorable.
Dave
Hi, Tara, Pam and Dave, this is Laura from California. I love your pop culture episodes. And I got taken back to 11th grade in January 1990. I love that album by In Excess. Is it x? Is it 10? I don't know, Dollar Jam, but I remember getting it from the library on vinyl album and going to my room and hoping for a quiet house to record it onto a little cassette like no wires or anything. Good times. And oh, listen, Without Prejudice. That is the soundtrack to 11th grade. My English teacher let us use Praying for Time in a project. I'm sure we had no idea what it meant, but my favorite song in that album is Cowboys and Angels, so check that out for that deep cut. It might be a little too jazz adjacent for Tara. Dave, I agree physical therapy is a total scam. Tara. I agree about Olive Garden. Never again. I think it gave me Covid. And Pam, I am on the skincare journey with you. I woke up in my eyelash area. It was itchy and I thought, oh, I wonder what's the new cream I've been using? And then my second thought was very listen to Sassy thought it was, oh well, at least I don't have itchy clitoris next time.
Renee
Yeah, thank you for all of that. That was great. And it really went places.
Tara
I had a comment about something earlier in the call, but it just fell out of my head because of that ending.
Renee
Yeah, that'll happen.
Tara
What'd she talk about? The start. What was she going on about?
Pamela
It doesn't matter. The market.
Renee
True Storyteller In Excess album.
Tara
Oh yeah, right. Vinyl album. Checkouts at your local library. Yeah, Music not in Thorold, Ontario, Let me tell you.
Pamela
It's how you could tape. That's how you could tape the albums you couldn't afford.
Renee
I used to do that all the time before and after I worked at the library of.
Tara
I mean I'm sure the St. Gatherens one did, but not where I was.
Renee
Oh well, yeah, I don't know about Thorold.
Tara
That's what I said.
Renee
I'm surprised they even have libraries.
Tara
They have books, they don't have spines, just loose collection of the pages. Hopefully you get the whole book. Maybe you do, maybe you don't.
Pamela
Thorold, your reference section, it's just gossips. You sit down, they're like, well, let me tell you what really happened.
Tara
The reference section is a guy pointing to the nearest real library.
Renee
Let's hear our fashion etc calls, starting with Megan.
Dave
Hello, Dave, Pam and Tara. I have to say, I mean, you know, I love this podcast. You know, I love this podcast because it so often reminds me of things that I did in my youth that I have completely forgotten about. And in this case I sent away for the how to get the guy you really want Tymar group system that was advertised in the January 1991 issue. I paid my $10 plus $2 postage. Not because I wanted to get a guy, not because I wanted to make a guy notice me without looking too pushy or how to make the first move that he can't say no to. That wasn't my genuine intention. My real intention was to get the system and then try it out and then write about it. I was going to write about it and then that piece was going to be so incredible that I would obviously be chosen for the next SASE reader produced issue. Now this plan was thwarted when I never received the system timer, did not deliver on that system. So I can't report, I can't tell you what that system was because I never got it. And that's sad. And I looked it up to see if I could try and find it and no such thing exists, ebay or anywhere. Sadly, I think I wrote a version of this same story when I worked at YM like a year or two later, which was spun off from the rules, which came out like I think in 95 or 96 and we did a YM version of the rules. And so I basically wrote like the YM version of this idea. But it really, really would have been better if it had been in Sassy. But the time our group let me down. But you know who Never lets me down. You all never let me down. Kevin Kuga forever. Bye.
Renee
This is a girl who is going places. You can tell. She sees those fractional ads. She's like, there's a story here.
Pamela
Yes, that's great. First of all, this is the coolest. Like, then during my I Am my YM job, that's. I mean, I love that casual job. I think you figured out the scam, which is there's nothing to get that you send away for this never existed. They're just taking money and running that. I couldn't find anything about it either. I went looking for something on ebay or whatever. I feel like I uncovered only a lawsuit. Right? It's these things make me so mad. These scams make me so mad.
Renee
Especially for when they're targeting teens who, you know, have a limited amount of money to waste on this bullshit.
Tara
Yeah, I called the REM hotline. It was just a busy signal.
Renee
Ah. You know what always rang through, though? Dial. A song from they Might Be Giants, Your favorite band. Next, another call from Renee.
Tara
Yeah, right.
Renee
Let's hear it.
Tara
Tired just thinking about that band.
Dave
Hello, this is Renee in Pittsburgh, and I'm kind of.
Pamela
That was Pittsburgh.
Tara
That was Pittsburgh.
Dave
I heard that one this day before American Thanksgiving. And there was a comment in the body talk about how Pittsburgh is a top skin city. And I'm here to tell you that can't possibly be true, especially back in the day when this John came out. Because I'll tell you what, when I walk out my door every morning, I can't tell if I have a gas leak or if the air just smells like farts because it smells like rotten eggs all the time in the lovely city of Pittsburgh because of the Coke plant. Like, probably like 10, 15 miles away. What's Coke, you might ask?
Tara
Not what is Coke? Anybody know?
Renee
I mean, I know because I screened this call.
Tara
Okay. Do you know Pam? Something to do with making steel. I know that much.
Renee
She's about to explain it.
Dave
The beverage that you can get at the movies when you're eating your popcorn bucket full of M and M and raisins and other M and Ms. And you eat it all before the preview. No, no, ma'am. Coke, it's a combination of petroleum and something else. They bake and they use it as fuel to smell and form iron. It is fully disgusting. And our plant gets fined bazillions of dollars every year, and they just pay it and keep on rolling. So there is zero way that Pittsburgh as a town is what or has ever Been a skin friendly city. Philadelphia, that's a skin friendly city, I'll tell you that much. Doesn't smell bad. The air is way cleaner by the ocean. Makes you feel good. Pittsburgh, bad news for your skin and for other things. And all the Pittsburgh folks out there who are listening, they can come for me all day long. I'm sitting here squarely in the middle of the city. Smells like rotten eggs right now. Thanks. Have a great day.
Renee
I want to believe you, but it's never come up as this plot point on the pit, so I can't. That's my favorite documentary about Pittsburgh.
Tara
That show's called the title.
Pamela
Yes, that's it.
Renee
Well, that's the shit. Excuse me. Her show is called that. Yes.
Tara
Next.
Renee
Jenny.
Dave
Hello, sappy crew. This is Hayden Haymaker, also known as Jenny. I was listening to the episode where Tara talked a little bit about a chickenpox scar or indentation that she had and I thought, I have one of those. So I went to the mirror and I was looking for it and I guess I don't look at myself closely enough lately. I'm approaching 50 or 78, as Tara says. But instead of a chicken pox pox car, I think it's still there, but it's been replaced by that frown line that I should probably have Botox or something. But anyway, I don't know what the point of that story was other than, say, camaraderie with Tara and in a horrible realization that I am very old and don't pay attention to myself. Love you guys. Bye Bye.
Renee
Age comes for us all, whether we're 50 or 78. Trust me, I know I've been both ages. This caller did not leave their name, but they did leave us important intel.
Dave
Hey, guys, I was just listening to today's episode that dropped on February 11th. We were talking about the fashions around LA and how the kids in the pictures looked famous. And it's because two of them are. That's actually Angelina Jolie and her boyfriend Anton Schneider. The cutest couple ever. Just wanted to let you guys know that's why they look famous, because one of them is very famous. Talk to you soon. Bye.
Pamela
Wow.
Tara
No name will have to be a stand in for the many, many people that let us know this. This was a big correction.
Renee
It was true. We got it on our social media as well. And Heather J. Smith also wrote in to add, while that comprehensive piece of journalism may have reminded you who Angelina Jolie is, you like, I might be wondering, who is this Anton Schneider? Well, let me Tell you, I'm pretty sure he's this guy. And she linked to Anton wardrobe.com Her favorite part of that site. She didn't dive deeply into it is where he a spells the title of Bob Hart's Abishola, a show on which he ostensibly worked wrong and also B manages to make it seem like Nicholas winding ref and directed the aforementioned show. Which honestly would be something else. Heather also has a chickenpox scar in the middle of her forehead. Loves when she notices one on someone in something that she's watching. And also identified herself further as the person who went to high school with Batman. Remember that? The person who made their car the Batmobile, as I recall. No, no one else remembers that. Okay.
Pamela
Yeah, no, I remember. I'm still how does everyone know that's Angelina Jolie so well, from this little tiny picture because she's so small in this picture.
Renee
But once you know you can see it.
Pamela
Yeah, once you know you can see it. But also, you know, I, I don't think this is face blindness. I definitely picked up on her it factor. Right. I was like, whoever this is, this fancy looking.
Renee
Yes.
Pamela
But I would have never. I probably would have said that's Ione sky before I would have guessed it was Angelina Jolie.
Renee
Yeah, they also call her Angie, not Angelina, which doesn't.
Pamela
Oh damn.
Renee
Heather further writes, also, I wonder how 2025 Angelina Jolie feels about having been described as cute shoes. Some boy bought her a necklace. Though honestly, that was Most of what 15 year old me hoped for in life. Thanks for being great. Have a lovely President's Day. Shout out to Martin Van Buren, mvb. Thank you Heather. Love every part of that email mvp. And occasionally we get a glut of calls around a single topic and we have to put them in one corner and it's doxing music corner this week. Let's hear from Sarah.
Dave
Hi, this is Sarah. I'm chiming in, so I don't know how we missed this chara, but I think the the icon for this is the doc sound and it can be a little flying dachshund because obviously ham is the doc hound. I'm just saying.
Pamela
Oh.
Renee
That was one view Doc's hound.
Tara
In case that was a little unclear.
Renee
Let's hear from Adam.
Dave
Hey friends, Adam G. Here. Of course, this is the first thing that motivates me to call the hotline. Yes, huge thumbs up to the doxing music. Dave, please keep it. No to the docs ox only because it should be the docs fox or the docs Friend. Both much cuter than an ox. I just don't like the image of Pam.
Tara
Like, you know, barreling ox.
Dave
Like Identity China Shop. I don't know.
Tara
Doc Fox.
Dave
Doc friend. Keep the theme. Love it. Bye, guys.
Renee
Doc Fox is hot.
Pamela
Doc Fox is hot. That was my nickname when I was little. My aunt called me the her Little Fox.
Tara
Docs Fox. Sounds like an app for bad doctors, though.
Dave
True.
Tara
You want an incompetent doctor to cut the wrong thing. Doc's Fox.
Renee
Finally, Lindsay.
Dave
Hi. This is Lindsay from New York. And Tara. Dave. Pam. It's just like talking to cool big brother sister cousins. You figure out which one you are. Listen to you talking about Sassy. I was too young for Sassy when Sassy was coming out. I was more of the American girl demographics. It really does feel so aspirational in retrospect, hearing you guys talk about this. So, with that in mind, I would just like to humbly suggest that Pam's dachshang mascot be a dachshund. And maybe Dave can play a little polka over that. And just FYI, I have no tampons in it at this exact moment. Thanks. Keep up the great work. Love you guys. Bye.
Renee
One for me. Thank you. Seems like the consensus is Doc's Hound is the play.
Tara
All right, so remind me again, because I'm a little fuzzy. The music is fine as is, but we need to develop a mascot for the segment.
Renee
Yeah.
Tara
And possible merchandise.
Renee
Yes.
Pamela
Possible merch, for sure.
Dave
All right.
Tara
And the leading one is Doc's Hound. Doc's wound.
Renee
Yep.
Tara
Okay.
Pamela
Help my menopausal brain. Did I already talk about getting my period the other day? Oh, God, I did. I got my period. Like, you don't understand. When they said, when was the last day of your last period? The number began with 840something days.
Renee
Wow.
Pamela
And so I had to go to the doctor because that's what happens when you get your period that late. And then they were like. And then the lady doing the little ultrasound, she goes, well, there's an ovary that's not trying to get anyone pregnant.
Tara
Wow.
Pamela
This is what it's like, Dave, because the first time I ever had to go into the stirrups in college or whatever it was, I remember her going, come on, lady.
Renee
Come on, little cervix. Come on out.
Pamela
Why are people talking to my insides this way? Anyway, I don't care for that. I'm fine. But I got my period. And the doctor was like, yeah, I guess it's just a reminder.
Tara
Wait, were you. Did you find These doctors through Doc Fox.
Pamela
Doc Fox, they. And, and they were all trying to be kind of fun about it, where they're like, just a reminder of what you don't have anymore. But what was crazy about it was it was. It was the same as if I had had a period. I was like, why am I cranky? My boobs hurt. What's going on? Got my period. Just as shocked as it was monthly forever. And then everything sucked. And I was like, ah, I'm so glad I don't get my period anymore. I kind of had forgotten. Just letting you guys know, you kind of forget how much it sucked. It just like you forget it's coming. But yeah, five days, just a regular old period hanging. And I was, and I said to be fair, this was when everyone was evacuating and I have to assume my body was like, we gotta go. Like, get it out. Everybody's leaving town. Throw it out. Got an old egg. Put a lining out there. We're done. And I was like, is it.
Tara
Eggs are expensive now?
Pamela
Yeah, necks are expensive. So it can happen to you. It happened to me. I'm a menopausal bleeder. Next time.
Renee
Next time, we'll be discussing the opposite of that. The teen life topics of the February 1991 issue. Go hunting. Fix your boyfriend knot with any of the skills you need for hunting. Learn about the war in the Persian Gulf, which ended the month this issue came out. And more for my plug. This week I interviewed Anthony Michael hall because he is in the new season of Reacher, a delightful show about a giant giant man. And we talked about that and we talked about his very brief time on SNL and other topics as well. So we'll link that in the show notes.
Tara
All right, you can follow everybody here on Blue Sky. Tara Areano, Pamela Ribbon. Listen to Sassy are the things you want to search for. Please join us on patreon. It is $5 a month gets you a whole bunch of great perks, including the whole issue PDFs as we start talking about them. Access to our community Discord thing. Sure forgot the name for our thing where computers make the thing go good. Oh yeah, yeah. You can support us for free rate and review us on the podcast app that you use and help us find new listeners.
Pamela
You can also call us 720 sassy go. That's how you get to be a part of this fun zone called the slumber party. Let us know about that. Clearly, anything you're thinking about, we're excited to hear. We'll play it on one of these future episodes. You can find out information about the podcast, links to our visual aids, and info for all of us@listentosassy.com thank you so much for listening. Keep bleeding and we'll see you next time.
Tara
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Podcast Summary: "Listen To Sassy: Life In The 90s"
Episode: January 1991 Slumber Party: Waste, Self-Esteem & The Dox Ox
Release Date: February 25, 2025
The episode opens with the hosts, Tara Ariano, Pamela Ribon, and David T. Cole, delving into the universal teenage angst surrounding moving to a new town. Tara expresses her frustration and longing for her roots in New Jersey, lamenting, "Ma, this town sucks" (00:01). The conversation quickly sets a relatable tone for listeners who have experienced the upheaval of relocating during their formative years.
The discussion shifts to Sassy magazine's reader-produced quizzes, starting with the "How Wasteful Are You?" quiz from December 1990. Renee highlights the relevance of the quiz questions, questioning their connection to actual wastefulness: "Do you spend more time fixing your posters than doing your homework?" (02:34). Pamela humorously critiques the options, particularly option B, stating, "That's one Saturday for me. Honestly, that sounds pretty good" (02:34).
The hosts reminisce about buffet experiences, sharing quirky anecdotes about overindulgence and culinary disasters. Pamela recounts a humorous incident involving a metal razor and an unintended "massaging" session that left her knees bleeding: "I tried a metal razor and she was like, oh, honey. But did you have a moment of introspection where you're like, I am bleeding?" (08:57). This segment blends nostalgia with laughter, painting a vivid picture of early 90s teenage life.
The conversation transitions to the "How High Is Your Self-Esteem?" quiz authored by Sassy staffer Kim. Pamela reads out a particularly relatable question about reacting to a breakup, navigating through options that reflect common teenage insecurities. The hosts discuss the implications of each choice, with Pamela noting, "I don't go all the way to hating her. I don't hate her" (15:33), underscoring the nuanced nature of self-esteem during adolescence.
Continuing with the quizzes, the hosts tackle questions about participation in extracurricular activities. They humorously critique the quiz's structure and answer options, debating the placement of "maybe" as a response. Renee shares her middle-ground result, stating, "I got 12, which is right in the middle" (20:04), reflecting on the balance between self-assessment and reality.
Listeners share their unique experiences, starting with Renee from Pittsburgh, who vents about the city's punctuality issues: "Nothing starts on time there" (21:10). Tara empathizes, noting, "If you live in a city that doesn't get up soon enough or get up when they say they're going to, it gets to you after a little bit" (22:02).
Jenny from North Carolina reminisces about Austin's eateries, offering nostalgic insights: "I went to all of those places. I even worked at Freddy's" (24:33). Her calls evoke a sense of shared history and the transient nature of beloved locales.
Erin shares a driver's ed story, revealing generational differences in teaching styles: "I desperately hoped I wouldn't have her for class because there was another teacher who was this, like, old guy who was about to, like, retire" (23:01).
Kelly from Cincinnati delves into the intricacies of Skyline chili, highlighting regional culinary traditions: "We just boil the pasta, open the cans of chili, eat those up, and then it is specifically finely grated, mild cheddar that goes on top" (28:17).
Aiden Haymaker discusses the charm of postcards, emphasizing their sentimental value: "I have started sending them to my nieces and my nephew who are, you know, 10, 12, 15 ish range" (31:12).
Laura from California intertwines 90s music nostalgia with personal anecdotes about skincare, adding depth to the conversation: "I remember getting it from the library on vinyl album and going to my room and hoping for a quiet house to record it onto a little cassette" (34:00).
A call from Dave addresses a mix-up regarding Angelina Jolie's recognition, sparking a lighthearted debate about developing a podcast mascot. Listeners suggest "Doc's Hound" as a playful alternative to the current "Dox Ox" branding: "Doc Fox is hot" (44:19). The hosts engage in a humorous exchange, highlighting the collaborative and interactive nature of the podcast community.
Pamela shares a personal story about her menopausal experiences, blending vulnerability with humor: "I was like, ah, I'm so glad I don't get my period anymore" (46:30). This candid moment underscores the podcast's commitment to addressing real-life issues with authenticity and relatability.
As the episode winds down, the hosts tease upcoming topics, including hunting skills and discussions about the Persian Gulf war: "This week I interviewed Anthony Michael hall because he is in the new season of Reacher" (47:59). They also invite listeners to support the podcast on Patreon, highlighting perks such as access to issue PDFs and a community Discord server.
Pamela playfully signs off with a nod to her recent experiences: "Keep bleeding and we'll see you next time" (49:12). The episode concludes with a blend of humor, nostalgia, and anticipation for future discussions, fostering a strong sense of community among listeners.
Tara on Moving: "Ma, this town sucks. ... It is January 1991. Oh, shit. You're moving again?" (00:01)
Pamela on Wastefulness Quiz Choices: "What does any of this have to do with wastefulness?" (02:34)
Pamela on Shaving Incident: "I have to go get my hair cut. ... I had stigmata from the knees." (09:03)
Renee on Self-Esteem Results: "I got in the middle category here. I'm mostly okay, but I could do better." (20:04)
Jenny on Austin Memories: "I worked at Freddy's. ... Rip Toy Joy. That is an Austin that does not exist anymore." (24:33)
Kelly on Skyline Chili: "Nothing for ketchup on it, but they do put hot sauce on it." (28:17)
Pamela on Menopausal Experience: "I was like, ah, I'm so glad I don't get my period anymore." (46:30)
Pamela on Shaving Past the Knee: "I don't shave past my knee bump." (12:22)
This episode of "Listen To Sassy: Life In The 90s" masterfully blends nostalgia with humor, offering listeners a heartfelt yet entertaining dive into the trials and tribulations of teenage life in January 1991. Through engaging discussions, relatable anecdotes, and vibrant listener interactions, Tara, Pamela, and Dave create a rich tapestry that celebrates the golden era of Sassy magazine while resonating with the timeless challenges of growing up.