July 1991 Pop Culture: Chapterhouse, Jamie Walters & Summer Recommendations

Summary

Listen To Sassy: Life In The 90s

Episode: July 1991 Pop Culture: Chapterhouse, Jamie Walters & Summer Recommendations

Released: December 23, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Listen To Sassy" reunites hosts Tara Ariano, Pamela Ribon, and David T. Cole for a deep dive into the July 1991 issue of Sassy magazine, focusing on its pop culture features: the British band Chapterhouse, actor/musician Jamie Walters, and the editorial team's personal summer recommendations. The hosts mix nostalgia, sharp commentary, and playful banter as they revisit Gen-X touchpoints, dissect the magazine's content, and riff on 90s culture, music, and TV.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Setting the Scene: July 1991 in Pop Culture (02:00)

• The hosts open with a tongue-in-cheek "morality play" skit referencing 90s PSA tropes.
• Quick hits on the era:
  • "Designing Women" tops the TV ratings.
  • "Point Break" and "Terminator 2" are summer blockbusters.
  • Paula Abdul’s "Rush Rush" leads the Billboard charts.
  • Michael Landon's death sparks generational nostalgia.
• "I know that this is the month that I am fighting with my parents to go to Lollapalooza next month. The most important thing that's ever happened.” (03:32, Host 3)

Lollapalooza and Lilith Fair: Music Fest Memories (04:01)

• The hosts exchange memories (and regrets) about not attending the first Lollapalooza tour.
• Tara reveals she attended Lilith Fair instead, thanks to free tickets from an ad broker at Chick Click.
• “Who wants free money? That was that business for two months.” (05:02, Dave)
• Brief nostalgia for the ephemeral digital startup Chick Click.

"What Now": Magazine Highlights & Political Commentary (07:04)

• The section covers Sassy’s mix of pop culture updates, activism, and irreverent style.
• A pointed critique of Governor Mario Cuomo’s CUNY budget cuts, tying into current knowledge about the Cuomo family:
  • “And also, at least one of his children is a huge piece of shit. We now know in 2025, fuck that guy forever.” (08:10, Tara)

Glossary of Gen X Slang (09:00)

• The term "chomp" is scrutinized:
  • “You can’t really be cool and say the word chomp.” (09:20, Dave)

The Perils of ‘Overpopulation’ Rhetoric (10:56)

• Sassy’s call to contact the Population Institute is met with the hosts’ critique of population control narratives.
• “The issue is consumption, not population, and concern trolling over overpopulation is racist. And we will link you to an explanation of why in the show notes.” (10:55, Tara)

DIY Music: Spotlight on Simple Machines (12:17)

• The story of two young women, Jennifer Toomey and Kristen Thompson, running the Simple Machines record label.
• “It’s easy to start your own record label. If you love to lose money and work two full time jobs.” (12:51, Tara)
• Retrospective notes on its 1998 closure and their lasting influence.

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"One To Watch": Jamie Walters Deep Dive (16:10)

• Jamie Walters profiled as the rising star:
  • Levi’s commercial led to his first big break.
  • “A year after this he would start dating and eventually became engaged to Drew Barrymore. More troublesome ages when they met, she was 17 and he was 22.” (17:04, Tara)
  • On his infamous 90210 role as Ray (“the Felicity’s hair of people”): after pushing Donna down the stairs, his acting career tanked and he became a firefighter and paramedic.
  • “I wouldn’t know who he was...I couldn’t ID him by sight...So the fact that I couldn’t ID him by sight...I'm going to say he was not one to watch. But, you know, good on him for fighting those fires.” (18:24, Dave)
  • Running joke about his distractingly red lips in 1991.

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Summer Recommendations: Sassy Staff’s Plans (19:18)

Editorial Insert: "How To Spend Your Summer Vacation (Copy Us)" (19:18)

• Hosts break down Sassy editors' summer plans with affectionate ribbing.

Highlights:

• Karen: Excited for Jodie Foster's directorial debut, "Little Man Tate":
  • “It's delightful. She plays the single mother of a genius child.” (20:21, Tara)
• Christina: International Pop Underground Convention, PBS' "Words In Your Face," writing songs with her boyfriend (possibly Ian Spinonius), and boating with her mom.
  • “Just more sentences I've never said. ‘Yeah, do you want to come over and go out on my mother's boat?’” (24:05, Tara)
• Kim: Froze Fruits (“the truth”), “Terminator 2,” “Slacker,” “Hangin With The Homeboys.”
  • “Never heard of them before. She’s going to watch violent, action packed movies like Terminator 2 Judgment Day and hip independent releases like Slacker...” (25:04, Host 3)
• Janet: Plans to try once more to finish "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand, rent "Grease," and “fall in love."
  • “Okay, one of these things is not like the others. I’m really looking forward to the letters they get about this one.” (26:03, Tara)
• Running thread about the surprising amount of reggae in Sassy's music recs.

Keanu Watch

• Noting a pattern of Keanu Reeves’ boldfacing in Sassy:
  • "Everything else...no, no, no. Only Keanu gets the bold treatment." (27:39, Tara)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I did not get to go to the inaugural Lollapalooza tour...It bothers me." (04:25, Host 3)
• “It’s easy to start your own record label. If you love to lose money and work two full time jobs.” (12:51, Tara)
• “You can’t really be cool and say the word chomp.” (09:20, Dave)
• "The issue is consumption, not population, and concern trolling over overpopulation is racist." (10:55, Tara)
• “I couldn’t ID him by sight...I’m going to say he was not one to watch. But, you know, good on him for fighting those fires.” (18:24, Dave)
• “No, I went to a Lilith Fair.” (04:45, Tara)
• “Soap Dish. A movie for the ages, a movie forever. Love Soap Dish.” (24:05, Tara)
• "If you're in the D.C. area...Estonian clown Julia Masle has a beautiful production...for the holidays, she's doing Ho Ho Ho Ha Ha Ha. It's absolutely beautiful..." (28:26, Host 3)
• “The world is hard this year. 2025 is a shit show. I can’t believe we’re still showing up.” (29:19, Host 3)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:00 — Setting the July 1991 pop culture scene
• 04:01 — Lollapalooza/Lilith Fair discussion
• 07:04 — Sassy’s “What Now” highlights and activism
• 08:10 — Cuomo cuts/CUNY commentary
• 09:00 — Gen X slang: “chomp”
• 10:56 — Population Institute critique
• 12:17 — DIY music: Simple Machines label
• 16:10 — "One to Watch": Jamie Walters profile & 90210 fallout
• 19:18 — Summer recommendations editorial feature
• 20:21 — Karen’s pick: “Little Man Tate”
• 24:05 — Christina’s summer plans (and boating w/ mom)
• 25:04 — Kim’s picks: Froze Fruits, "T2," “Slacker”
• 27:39 — Keanu in bold: ongoing Sassy motif
• 28:26 — DC theatre plug: Julia Masle’s "Ho Ho Ho Ha Ha Ha"
• 29:19 — Closing thoughts: “We’re doing our best...2025 is a shit show...”

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Additional Notes

• Running jokes: "WA pow" soundboard references, callbacks to past magazine glossary terms and previous podcast episodes.
• Listeners are encouraged to check out show notes for linked articles and vintage content referenced in the episode.
• Next time: Fashion and beauty features from the July 1991 issue.

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Overall Tone

Affectionately snarky, self-aware, and expertly nostalgic. The hosts balance deep knowledge of Gen-X culture with irreverent wit, keeping the recap lively and accessible for both Sassy superfans and newcomers.

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Visual aids, links, and contact info available at ListenToSassy.com

Transcript

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[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Hey little dude. Send your mama and daddy out of the room. I gotta get you up on this. You know who I am, Snake.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Dealing in weed, coke, crack.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Your choice. Take one hit and you'll do anything to cop more.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Steal from your mama, lie, cheat on your hoe boy.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

But hey, that's the price you pay when you deal with dudes like me. Now some.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Some folks will tell you that I'm dealing in poison.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

But hey, do I look like the kind of guy that would do that.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

To a kid like you?

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Yes. Jeez.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

It is July 1991. Designing women is on top of the Nielsen ratings. Point break and T2 are big at the box office. Paula Abdrul has the billboard number one hit with Rush Rush. And God negotiates one last episode of highway to Heaven for Michael Landon. Oh, but you don't care. But you don't care much about all that because you just slowly opened the front door for your snake buyer slash long term boyfriend. Oh my God. On the other side of this door is destiny, the personification of love itself. Here we go. Remember this moment. The end of boring old you and the beginning of eventual Mrs. Flaming Bag of Poop. That's a flaming bag of poop on your door.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Yes, it's time to listen to Sassy again.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

How many of these? This is the worst place the diarist has ever moved. That Michael Landon. I was like, he died that long ago. It was such a thing that he died that it feels more recent than that. Am I wrong? Does it feel like it happened when you were young? It doesn't feel that way.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

My parents didn't tell me about Michael Landon passing for years.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

I mean, it's been a long running story on Sassy on the podcast because he announced in the previous month that he had cancer. And then this is the month when he actually.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

We got terrible news, Dave. Oh, D. Now, now, now.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Well, I don't know. All right, anyway, July 1991 in our pop culture lives. I know that this is the month that I am fighting with my parents to go to Lollapalooza next month. The most important thing that's ever happened. I just remember being like, you guys live 20 minutes from Woodstock and didn't go, don't do this to your child. They did it.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

They did.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

I did not get to go to the inaugural Lollapalooza tour, which stopped in Dallas, where I was reading about review where during the butthole surfer set, vocalist Gibby Haynes fired a shotgun into the air. Guess he did it more than once. And Vernon Reed of Living Color said in an interview with Rolling Stone one day, I was like, yo, man, are you shooting blanks? He had a twinkle in his eye.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Oh, boy.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Not great Gippy Hayden story. Anyway, if 720 sassy go, were you also not allowed to go to the first Lollapalooza? And does it still bother you? It bothers me.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

You went to one, didn't you, Dave?

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

I went to one, yeah, but not this one.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Oh, God, not this one.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Yeah, we all went to one eventually, but.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Did we?

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Tara, you've been to a Lollapalooza.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

No, I went to a Lilith Fair.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Ah. I did not Lilith Fair.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

It was only because we got free tickets from our at the time ad broker at Hissy Fit. Chick click. Remember? Chick Click.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Chick click.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

I know. I was part of that.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

They got us portal to the Toronto date.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Who wants free money? That was that business for two months.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Yep.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

What a time it was.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Miss you, chick Click. Miss you, chick Click. Miss you dearly.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

What now?

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

I don't know.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

What.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

What is it? This month's what now doesn't have us turning our head as many times, but just enough. Just enough that I am in physical therapy about it.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Sorry.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Cute band alert. Cute guy, Al. Oh.

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[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Why do I always sound like I'm falling at the end of that One. That's what my dog says when you won't let her out. One of the guys in chapter house, average age 20 is named Simon Jane.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Lynch is here chapter.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Oh yeah, one of the guys could you tell he used to do the scratch Simon that they are from England. Simon is one of three guitar players in the band. Their music is a lovely combination of the guitar noise so integral to rock Lenny Kravitz like psychedel and the drums that they are dangerously reminiscent of dance music. We once again have done the listen to sassy effect. Chapter house have just announced a reunion. Hey, you're welcome everybody.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Wow.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

It's called the sassy called a new chapter, right?

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Yes, they've downsized chapter 2020 chapter indexing.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

What pow.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Ah, the wa pal. Almost forgot. Going to keep my finger on the P for pow button.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

You did forget I reminded you. Keep your head turned. But go to if your head is turned.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

That's going on the soundboard. By the way. You did forget I reminded you.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Put it after the.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Keep your finger on that one.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Put it after the men's brains deteriorate faster. Clip from last week's episode.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Yeah, about two o'.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Clock. Anyway, keep your head turned. Go to if it's turned the bottom right corner. For yet another way to keep minorities down, we have a guest commentary by Mary Kay, who graduated from City College in Manhattan, which is part of the City University of New York. She spent a total of $5,000 for four years there. Couldn't have gone to college otherwise. But she is mad now because in April, New York's governor, Mario Cuomo proposed $92 million in cuts from the university's budget and a tuition increase of $500 per student per year. She's upset. She's right to be mostly going to affect students that are from disadvantaged, historically disadvantaged groups. But she adds at the end, throughout the campuses they protested closing buildings, holding demonstrations and suspending classes. Governor Cuomo's reaction seemed to be, stop whining. I'm so sure his kids had to worry about college tuition. They probably didn't. And also, at least one of his children is a huge piece of shit. We now know in 2025, fuck that guy forever. Keep that head turned. Ian Spinonius, the sassiest boy in America.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Oh my God.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Turned 23 on June 1st. And to think he was just 20 last year. Hardy har har.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Clive Davis didn't work this hard to make boys happen. At this point I was just like, my God, he's not gonna break. He's not gonna break.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

No. Sassy. Oh, sorry. Wa Pal. No, don't tell him.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Just see how long next time. Just wait.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Sassy. Glossary definition number 39.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Comps went in what in advance?

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Verb meaning to copy usage. YM tries to chomp sassy's writing style but they never quite get it. Nose ring. Nose ring. Nose ring. They're right. But you know, this is like what Dave was complaining about in the last issue. This is just another word for bite.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Yeah.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Biting your style.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

You can't really be cool and say the word chomp.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

No, you can't. I agree.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

What would Jane lynch sound like trying to be cool saying the word chomp?

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

I was as cool as everything else I say. I went looking like is this.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Did.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Did YM put a nose ring on the COVID or is this the thing? Did they do an article about nose ring?

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

The editor got a nose ring like Jane has.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Oh, thank you for knowing that. It. Yeah.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Is it time for the wobow? Everybody's favorite immediate up to date.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Immediate.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

On the next page, bottom left corner. By the year 2000, number one, almost one half of the world's forests will be gone. Number two. One fifth of the world's plant and animal species will be extinct. Number three. The air we breathe will contain one third more carbon dioxide than it now does. Besides the usual environmental reasons these problems are directly related to the world's huge population crisis. There are over 5 billion people in the world today. 3 billion of them will enter their reproductive years in this generation. Do you want to find out what you can do to help solve this problem? Blah blah the Population Institute Just want to say I did not go and check if all of these stats ended up being true in the year 2000 because I don't need that stress on top of everything else. But I'll just say we know who is polluting individual choices including whether or not to have children. Can't solve systemic problems. The issue is consumption, not population and concern trolling over overpopulation is racist. And we will link you to an explanation of why in the show notes.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

The line if you want to. Actually this is how you're supposed to say the line if you want to find out what you can do to help solve this problem. Yeah, that's some real most dangerous vibes. Turns out it was man.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Particularly because you're calling the Population Institute. What are they. What are they doing?

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Look, I'm not saying if the couple of these guys go miss it is going to be a big deal.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

These days the Population Institute Says they advocate for gender equality and universal access to sexual and reproductive health services to improve lives, promote human rights, save the planet and build a better tomorrow. But we. They're still talking about population projections and they have a, they have a brief. So, you know, there's.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

It's just a very, very short step from there to uni eugenics talk. That's all. I'll say.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Baby, I get you.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

You keep making them, we'll keep counting them.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

I thought you were doing a bit that time.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

I knew it wasn't a bit. I knew it wasn't a bit, but then I thought he might realize what he's doing and then turn it into a bit.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

This is getting sad.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

You didn't sleep well. Okay, I guess I'll give you a break. How to start your own Rectangle record label. These 23 year old girls, Jennifer Toomey and Kristen Thompson. Sounds like women to me. Have a record label in Arlington, Virginia called Simple Machines. Two years ago, Jennifer and her friend Brad, who was then her partner, used a thousand dollars out of their own pockets to press their first single. They charged $3 for the record, which like all Simple Machines releases, was a compilation of three songs. Now Kristen and Jennifer are working 40 hours on a week on their label. Oh great, that sounds amazing. But they still have full time jobs. Oh fuck, that sounds bad. It's easy to start your own record label. If you love to lose money and work two full time jobs. You could do it too. Anyway, it shut down in April 1998, but the back catalog is still accessible and we will link that in the show notes if you want to buy some of their old records.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

You know, halfway through this I was like, this is not like this one. This what now? Like, we're not really like. You can see we didn't highlight most of them. We were just sort of like, I don't know. And then here at the bottom, Christina wrote, all right, this was not my best column.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Like, great.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

She's like, but that's okay because I am a fun person. I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like me.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Oh. Making a reference to popular culture that we all love to know.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Put it now just every for the rest of the article. I know. I just assume it's at any point now, please.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Makes her stronger.

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[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

One to watch this guy, Jamie Walters, he's always looked up to John Travolta and working with him, he felt like he had really gotten somewhere. Well, let's see how far that got him. Jamie Walters is 21 in this as of this allegedly 21 as of this interview. Born and raised in Boston, where his father was a lawyer and his mother was a high school counselor, but they divorced when he was 4 or 5. Anyway, he's got a lot of step family members, moved to New York City when he was 17 and then he went to NYU film school. And then he, quote, kind of started getting into this acting business and taking an extended leave of absence like all cute boys who somehow I don't know how I ended up Doing all of this. Here he is. He was in a hardcore band called House and at first he wasn't acting at all, but of course someone was like, just go audition. And then he was in that Levi's commercial that you probably remember.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Yeah, we'll link it in the show notes for sure. I remember it because after this many years after this he ended up being a semi series regular on Beverly Hills 90210. So I know a lot about Jamie Walters after this issue. A year after this he would start dating and eventually became engaged to Drew Barrymore. More troublesome ages when they met, she was 17 and he was 22. Oh, on 90210 he played Ray, who dated Donna, played by Tori Spelling. He pushed her down a flight of stairs in Palm Springs. Everyone was so mad at him. Basically ended his acting career. And he is a fighter, firefighter and a paramedic now.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

She was only 17. I mean that's pretty crazy that they're just so mad. He's like the Felicity's hair of people.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Basically they tried on the show to redeem him. Like he continued to date the character after that and they were like, oh, you know, it's. He's got trauma from his bad childhood and this and that and it's like none of it really worked. Like after you push the boss's daughter down the stairs, you kind of got to go. He was not happy about it because he lost a lot of money. But Dave, you had a comment about.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

His some red lips.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

They're real red. They're really red in this photo.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

You are really kidding.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Look like shrimps on the barbie, Dave, except their lips.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Was he one to watch?

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

No, I wouldn't know who he was. If you showed me this photo without the helpful Jamie Walters caption, I wouldn't have known that's what he looked like. Even though I've heard his name 100 times. I certainly have during the podcast recordings for Beverly Hills stuff. So the fact that I couldn't IDM by by sight, I'm going to say he was not one to watch. But you know, good on him for fighting those fires.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Yeah. Look at the.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Looking at these pictures in the LA fire department of him. I also would not know that that was Jamie Walters walking up to me. He does not have the red lips anymore.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Well, none of us are as red lipped as we were in 1991. Let's be fair.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Let's be self, Tara.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Okay, fair enough.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

I've just taken red lip A's. You put it on your mouth before you go to sleep and when you wake.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Up. Feature. Question mark number one. It's not so much a feature as it is a little insert. You can tear it out. Thank God the person that I bought this issue from didn't. It was still in the spine. How to spend your summer vacation in parentheses. Copy us. It's hot. It's humid. You're schwitzing. Without the structure and rituals of school, your days are empty, meaningless. You need something to keep the angel of boredom away from your door, which is how we justify the existence of this booklet in which we tell you how we're going to make our summers important and wonderful. I wasn't bored. I had a job. I was going to the library every day. If you did not have a job in the summer of 1991, here's some of the things that you could do. And each editor or staffer gets a little box to write out what they're going to be consuming or looking forward to.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

They're definitely having a cool off in it where there's like, oh, whatever. I'm just like doing these things. You're like, oh, yeah, well, I'm over here.

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[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

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[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Yeah. I'm gonna say a couple of these attempted cool offs really are more telling on yourself offs accidentally. Not. Not probably what they were intending anyway. Karen is looking forward to Jody Foster's directorial debut, Little Man Tate. Excellent movie. She is also in it. It's. It's delightful. She plays the single mother of a genius child and it's sort of about how they both figure out how to navigate that. It's lovely.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Didn't we talk about it when Harry Connick Jr. Was maybe one to watch?

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Maybe.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

I feel like we had talked about it before, but. See the little man Tate?

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

See the kid? Is he a little man?

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

No. Who is Harry Connick Jr. Yeah.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Tiny little smart boy.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

No.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Dave? No.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

He's Harry Connick Jr. The little kid is now Big Man Tate. His name is Adam. For a little while we were hanging out because he stayed in the industry. He was a writer and now he is still in the industry. He's in the gaming industry and he makes video games. Real nice guy, Got married. But Little Man Tate is notable not for just being a great movie, but being the only film I knew about that talks about Odyssey of the Mind or om, for those of us who know. And I find it crazy that people still don't know about OM and yet OM is still existing. There is a documentary called Odyssey that I saw that we'll link to in the show notes. For those of you who did om and miss it and or want to share it with a kid in your life, go watch Odyssey, a documentary about a bunch of kids competing in Odyssey the mind.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Amazing. We're going to skip Neil for obvious reasons, Christina.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Why he's trying to be a better and nicer person.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

You know, I don't buy it. That looks like a real dare.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Like, it's not real and nicer person.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Okay, night. But they. This is supposed to be like, what, you know, pop culture stuff you're going to be doing this summer. And all they can highlight from his whole blurb is Backdraft and both of its stars, Billy Baldwin and Kurt Russell, because the rest of it is like, better a nicer person gonna be in the God given sunshine. Also wants nourish new friendships. He's also going to go swimming and eat low fat chocolate yogurt. That's it. Everyone else is like, you know, Boyz N the Hood, Pee Wee's Playhouse, Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, et cetera. Shut up, Neil. Christina is going to the international pop underground convention. Something that seems like it was an annual affair actually only happened once. I found an article on its 30th anniversary recollection. We'll link that in the show notes. She mentions Lauren Dean of say anything fame when she's talking about the movie Billy Bathgate, which, like, I guess. But he's. He's Joe, right? Isn't he Joe in that movie?

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Oh, I was like, I don't know.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Who that is exactly. He's not.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Yeah, he's Joe. I see him now. Yeah, he's Joe.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Just some guy.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Yeah. Important in the film. Not important as the actor.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Yes, correct. She's also excited about a PBS special, words in your face, which I found on YouTube. We'll link that in the show notes too, as well as the review of it in the Times. This is, you know, spoken word performances by Henry Rollins, KRS1 and John Leguizamo. So you know, now you know that if you choose to proceed, that's on you. She also says she's going to write songs with my boyfriend. Your boyfriend. Who confirm his name. Tell us you're dating Ian Spinoz, if that's what's happening.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

We broke Tara.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

We broke Tara.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Shit. That happened 35 years ago.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Yeah, true. She hopes she has some time left over to work on her collection of short stories, write songs like she said, and then also go out on my mother's Boat. Just more sentences I've never said. Yeah, do you want to come over and go out on my mother's boat next, Margie?

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

She goes on and on about all of the mystery books she loves to read, as well as Toni Morrison's beloved others. But then right in the middle, she's like that soap dish. I'm like, blah, blah, blah. I don't care about anything you're reading. Soap Dish. A movie for the ages, a movie forever. Love soap dish. It is so great. She also thinks she's gonna try colored nail polish, something she only wears in summertime. She intends to be daring and try some coral hues. Mary suggests covergirl nail slicks and tawny peach. I looked it up. This color is for moms. Okay? It's very mom coded, in my opinion. Turn the page and we will hear from Kim. She's going to be eating a lot of froze fruits. And I. I concur. Froze fruits are the truth. Those are the cheapo fruit bars that you can get at Bodegas in New York. And they are super tasty. Lime or pineapple, I would recommend above all others, personally.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

All right. Never heard of them before. She's going to watch violent, action packed movies like Terminator 2 Judgment Day and hip independent releases like Slacker and Hangin with the Homeboys.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Slacker.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Slacker. Yeah. I went looking up Slacker and I found an article called I watched Slacker to read Austen in the original. And it hit me with some nostalgia that I have not lost out of like my, like my ribcage, my diaphragm still hurts from reading all the things that are RIP in Austin right now. But yeah, it's a good read. And like, I can't believe Slacker came out this long ago because once I got to Austin, which is, I guess quite a few years later from this, it was still like Slacker had just come out. If you haven't seen Slacker, I mean, you probably should have at this point right now. Just. Just to. Just to know what everyone's talking about when they mean what they mean about Austin.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Yeah. Next, Mike, his is 3/4 shit that's coming out that he's pretty sure he's gonna hate because it's Mike and that's his brand and I'm gonna skip it. Shut up, Mike. Then speaking of shut up, Janet says I also plan to try to finish Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand for the third summer in a row. Rent Grease and Fall in Love. Okay. One of these things is not like the others. I'm really looking forward to the letters they get about this one in the September issue. Like, what now?

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

But did people know that then? Because I feel like with. Well, I don't know, because I read all this stuff in college. Because I remember, like, it was a thing in Risky, in Dirty Dancing where it was like, I read the Fountainhead or whatever. And so then.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Right. As a. As a shorthand for this guy is an asshole.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

I just didn't know they weren't like, telling me what these things were in my library that had censored books.

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[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

I can blame my own high school for why I didn't know any of this.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Yeah.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

But in college, at a graveyard shift job, that's when I read all these books. And it, you know, it doesn't tell you in the book. This is problematic. Okay, well, so I needed the Internet.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Not to brag, but I did a big research paper or not a research paper. I did a big lit paper in high school about dystopias of at various ends of the political spectrum. So it was that in 1984 and Brave New World, I think.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Well, that's awesome. I was writing long reports about Sylvia Plath.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Okay, well, that's great. I was farting into a bag three times a day.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

For science.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Science for science, Dave.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

Anyway, this. This whole article was filled with so much reggae, and I don't remember this much reggae and sassy. Was it just the style of the summer?

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Yeah, maybe I didn't remember that particularly. But you're right. There is a lot of reggae endorsements. Jane's talking about Keanu. Keanu, Keanu. Everything else that she mentions is not in bold Fugazi. In Excess, in Cold Blood. Everything else. No, no, no. Only. Only Keanu gets the bold treatment. Next time we'll be talking about the fashion etc. Of the July 1991 issue. Wear gray. Don't want to wear red, white and blue. Then geez, learn how to be beautiful without all the makeup you just end up sweating through anyway. And more.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

All right, if you're in the D.C. area, I think it'll still be playing when you listen to this Estonian clown. Julia Mazel has a beautiful production that's touring that's normally called Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ha. For the holidays, she's doing Ho Ho Ho Hahaha. It's absolutely beautiful. Julia's a clown who's trying to win the Nobel Peace Prize for solving the world's problems, but people keep laughing and giving her awards instead. Caught it at the Pasadena Playhouse this past weekend. I highly recommend it. When she in your neck of the.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

Woods, you can Support this podcast. $5 a month gets you that PDF scan access to the discord to chat to all of us.

[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

Yep.

[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

That'S okay. I think I said Julia Masle and it's muzly. All right, so we're all doing it. W pow.

[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

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[Host 3 (Possibly Mike or Neil)]

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[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

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[Host 2 (Possibly Dave)]

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[Host 1 (Possibly Tara or Christina)]

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