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Dave
Have you ever tried putting with a wedgie? A wedgie?
Pam
Yeah.
Dave
Yeah. Oh, it's great. It's great. All the pros are doing it. Would you. Would you like me to show you?
Caller
Yeah.
Dave
Is June 1991, but also July 1991. It's a little confusing. That's because you've been on vacation and it was great. So great. You didn't put anything in your diary. This was nice. You could get used to not doing a diary all the time. Anyways, something to think about.
Pam
It's time to listen to Sassy. Can I just say, let's step outside the. You know, the framing device of the diary. Dave is the president of making work for himself and then complaining about it because the whole diary thing was your idea to begin with and we could stop.
Dave
Well, I had plans to kill her off by now, but you guys were like, I don't know. It's a little dark.
Pam
I'm not. True. No.
Tara
I've tried other things. I've read from my own diary. We've done offshoots. I thought it'd be more like, let's talk about the current events. But meanwhile, we're in this fake land with these fake families and an Orange Julius.
Dave
I don't know what you guys are talking about. This is all real. And she went on vacation. She's just having a crisis of Confidence. Or maybe she's just busy. Or maybe somebody put the wrong. It's time for this person to do the intro story. Because they've done the last three in a row.
Pam
Right.
Dave
Sorry. And they were caught unaware.
Tara
Look, it's been 81 years.
Dave
Yeah.
Pam
Anything could happen in our house. Something could. We could tragically have a house fire that burns everything except burns nothing except the diary, you know?
Dave
Well, I'm still saying diary. Is death still on table?
Tara
It could go away. It can go away. It could be dealer's choice for intros.
Dave
Yeah.
Tara
And you just do whatever you want to do.
Pam
Yes.
Tara
A new world.
Pam
Yeah. Who do you think you're going to piss off? Your boss? Like, just stop doing it.
RealReal Advertiser
I don't care.
Pam
The demand. You're not going to get fired.
Tara
You two had to talk me out of these mixtapes that were taking up an extraordinary amount of my time. And you were like, pam, nobody's listening to these.
Pam
Well, I never said that, but, I mean, I wasn't.
Tara
That's what I heard. Nobody was listening to these. I moved over to Apple. I came back to Spotify. No, I mean, if the.
Pam
The.
Tara
To the two people who might have been listening.
Pam
Thanks.
Tara
And the rest of you were like, what was that? It was a short situation. Came to my senses.
Pam
Did you have no meetings at work this week? Did you miss them and wish that you could listen in on someone else's? You're welcome. We had to.
Tara
Suzuk, welcome back. This is our State of the Union. We have one meeting a year and it's the first episode of.
Dave
Guys, we didn't read the podcast minutes. This. Oh, everything up to now has been null and void.
Pam
Oh, no.
Dave
You gotta follow Robert's rules of order.
Pam
All right, shall we begin properly? Yeah, sure. We've got two quizzes because we took a slumber party off. So we've got the June 1991 quiz and the July quiz from the same year. Let's start with. Are you a news moron? Both of these are very confrontational. Are you a news moron? Are you an annoyance? What? What have you heard? It's Quiz writer is what I would.
Dave
Like to know before we get into it, when did quiz turned into pop quiz? Yeah, that's happened recently.
Pam
It has.
Dave
I didn't notice when it first happened, but I noticed when we're doing these two that it's Pop Quiz now.
Pam
Yeah, there's the. There was the one. How well do you know the sassy staff? And then there was how well do you know mtv? And now here we are with News Moron.
Dave
Is it really a pop quiz if you know exactly when it's going to be on schedule every month of your life? Yeah.
Pam
I don't know. Oh, you mean the title. I see. Yeah, I thought you meant the format. Okay, sorry.
Dave
You don't.
Tara
No, it's more. It's more school oriented. I feel like it's. I like it. It's a pop quiz. Comes up wherever in the. Of course I like it. You've met me. I do.
Dave
Hey, Pam, where's that character we heard before the show?
Tara
Oh, this is.
Pam
All right, here is Tornado and six and same voice you were doing.
Tara
I don't know if it is. I don't remember it. These things, if you don't hang on to them, they're go.
Dave
What? You know what? I'm just gonna say it right now. I'm not gonna edit this podcast. This episode is going straight, straight, straight to listeners ears.
Pam
All right. Brought to you by Lunacy. So I may not be a news moron spoiler. But I guess I am a noticing headlines moron. My question is that I chose to discuss number five. Margaret Thatcher is the prime minister of England. True or false? I said true. It was, in fact, false. And I would just like to say at the time, I probably knew that she wasn't, but I didn't remember exactly when her term ended.
Tara
So I. Yeah, I also got that wrong. I definitely got that one wrong. There were a couple where I was like, I know it now, but I definitely didn't know it then.
Pam
Yeah. Oh, I remember there was Burkina Faso is a country. The Prime Minister of India. Spanish seafood dish. A territory of the USSR. I got that one wrong at the time in 1991, and I never forgot. Now I always think of that quiz whenever Burkina Faso comes up in my life, which, I mean, to be honest, it's not often.
Dave
What did you answer originally? What would have you.
Pam
I think I said prime Minister of India, probably.
Dave
I was just curious if you went the food dish, and then I would ask you how exactly would that food dish be news? Is it that right?
Pam
Yeah.
Dave
Holy. Have you tried.
Tara
I mean, that's what our news is like today. These five ways to prepare. Burkina Faso.
Dave
Yeah, we got it at a Spanish restaurant. Everybody had their own little dish of it. It was great. We shared.
Pam
All right.
Tara
Number 16. What is Puerto Rico's status? And I just thought, wouldn't it be neat if people even knew that yet now? Yeah, people are just gonna get that one wrong all the time.
Pam
Yeah.
Tara
So that's why I picked it. I'm. What about you, Dave?
Dave
I chose number 18. The Emperor of Japan's name is. And there are a bunch of options, including the correct Hirohito. But C is Goldberg. Exactly. Made me laugh. Emperor Goldberg, Demigod of the sun. Here he.
Pam
Shiro Goldberg instead of Sushi. All right, well, I did well on this one. I got 16 out of 19. The ones I got wrong were the aforementioned Margaret Thatcher. Question number three. Which was which of the following countries did not fight with the Allies in the Persian Gulf War? And I said Egypt, but it was Jordan.
Dave
Yep.
Pam
And then the last one I got Wrong was number 12. What country, according to its constitution, is not allowed to wage an offensive war? And I fully guessed Thailand. In fact, the answer is C, which is Japan. Jam's all over this thing.
Dave
Goldberg's. Goldberg Wars. Yeah, that's right.
Tara
I. I also picked Thailand on that one. That just sounded to me more Thailandy. Sure, let's do that. Yeah, I got. I got 14. Right. Because I went ahead and said, oh, I saw that. I knew that. I thought it said United nations located in New York. Like, I just. My brain turned it wrong. So I was like, I'll give myself credit. And I went up to the teacher, I explained what happened, and everything's fine now.
Pam
We figured it out.
Tara
The Vatican as a country feels like a trick question, and I got it wrong.
Dave
Why is that?
Pam
Not if you're Catholic.
Tara
I mean, the building is a country. The building is a country.
Pam
No, it's like.
Tara
Explain this to me.
Dave
Wait, do you think. Wait, hang on, hang on. Do you think Vatican City is one giant building, like from Lord of the Rings?
Tara
I thought Vatican City was in. Was in.
Dave
Wait, there's a building. There's a huge building. It's a giant fortress on the hill. And inside this building is Vatican City.
Tara
No, I thought Vatican City is in a country. Is it a country?
Pam
Yeah.
Tara
And then how is the Vatican a country? Isn't the Vatican a building in Vatican City or a conglomerate of a concept of a church in Vatican City in a country? It's not.
Pam
It's a city state.
Dave
Yeah.
Pam
It'S my doctor's calling.
Tara
I'm gonna take it. Give me one second, please. I'm so sorry.
Dave
Oh, great. This is. And I have already said we're not editing the podcast.
Pam
Well, she's on mute. We can just talk amongst ourselves.
Dave
She's turning up a serious case of not knowing anything about the Catholic Church. You're going to have to do 12 Hail Marys and I don't know. Something with beads.
Pam
All right, well, you're smart. Did you get 19 out of 19?
Dave
I did.
Pam
Wow.
Dave
Yeah.
Pam
Good job.
Dave
100%. I was. The Margaret Thatcher was the trickiest one.
Pam
Well, I didn't want to research it.
Dave
Mm.
Pam
Because that felt like cheating.
Dave
And I was unsure about the Summer Olympics. I was like, I pretty sure it was Barcelona.
Pam
That's what I was. I wasn't sure if it was Barcelona or Sydney, too, but I got that one right also.
Dave
Yeah. Well, you know, this is right in our wheelhouse.
Pam
Yeah.
Dave
You know, becoming aware of news. Stop being so selfish. Playing with toys.
Pam
Yes.
Dave
The hell's going on with Pam? What do you think's wrong with her? Calling to say, I'm gonna say you've had a new pair of boobs on her back?
Pam
Well, I thought it would be something related to one of her supplements. You have a.
Dave
You have an over abundance of bonafide.
Pam
Yes, bonafide.
Dave
I was trying to throw an extra pair of boobs on your back.
Tara
I claim hipaa, and it's none of your business.
Pam
Is everything okay?
Tara
Hey. Everything's fine. They wanted to make sure a prescription went through.
Dave
Gotta call her best customer, make sure she's okay. Or probably not okay because that, you.
Tara
Know, my punch card's full, so they had to see, like, do you want to bring it in, or should we send you another one?
Dave
You get a free medicine.
Tara
I do get a free medicine. I have to go back on Monday for more.
Dave
It'll make you feel good, Pam. Don't worry about it. It'll start or stop your nails growing. Whatever you want.
Tara
Maybe not even gonna let you know what's going on with his body right now.
Pam
But it's fine.
Tara
Things are good. Things are on the up and up.
Dave
We discovered I got perfect. And I am not a news moron.
Pam
No, I think none of us are these morons.
Dave
Yep. All right.
Tara
Perfect.
Dave
Yep. First time I've ever gotten perfect.
Pam
I'm curious. This is what's actually going to end the podcast.
Dave
This is why I don't have. This is why I don't have time for the diary. My head's jam full of news facts.
Tara
That's why you don't know what a uterus does, because you're busy putting Vatican City on your map.
Dave
Yeah.
Pam
July 1991. Pop quiz is, are you an annoyance? This is how annoying I am. How long have you been hanging onto that one? He's been waiting all day. All day. All right. Are you fond of talking loudly in movie theaters? A yes. And everyone should be grateful for my running cinematic commentary. B, it's not a regular trait, but I've done it. C, no way. That's strictly for subhumans. And of course I said, see, Duh. But I also just wanted to bring this up because if you've been watching the entertainment news, if you care about the movie theater experience, you may have read a story last week about how the Alamo Drafthouse chain is phasing out putting up slips to order, you know, refills of your drinks or whatever else you want from the kitchen at your seat. And sorry for my Alamo privilege, but that is a thing that you can do at the movies here or wherever Alamo is. Maybe in your town that you can. They have waiters that come through and they will take your order, but starting in February, they're switching to mobile ordering. So you have to get out your phone and use the app to order. And they're like, this will improve the experience, I guess, because it means the waiter only comes out once to drop your whatever off instead of twice to, like, pick up the slip as well. But I. Every time you go to Alamo, when you get a ticket, they will afterwards send a survey to ask how your experience was. And I never have filled that one of these out. But now I'm gonna do it every time between now and February. Just a real Johnny letter. I object. Just letting them know I have spent.
Dave
Hundreds and thousands of dollars at your establishment over the year, and I feel like I am one of your best customers.
Pam
I didn't say any of that. Said, I hope you will reconsider this because it's going to ruin it. Because every time someone does it in February, I'm going to start snitching whether they're ordering or not. Because the point is, I can't know what they're doing with their phone. They could be texting or they could be asking for a drink.
Dave
I'm not going with you in that case.
Tara
Well, that's how it is out here when the non Alamo ones. And you know what? You end up having a person because you're like, it's not going through.
Pam
Like, I'm asking for Sprite, but it keeps.
Tara
And then they have to take your phone in the dark and go, oh, I can't. Yeah, it's like, it's the problem with the system.
Pam
And it's like, we don't have a.
Tara
Really good service in here. So you end up actually having a conversation with a person. This is crazy. However, also, I'M mostly talking to, say, Tara. That is not your answer to number four. Your answer to number four involves an Alamo Drafthouse where they told us you can't talk during Crossroads. And we were like, what are we fucking doing here?
Pam
That was a movie party. You're allowed to be annoying at the movie party because it was Crossroads.
Tara
We have done it at many movies.
Pam
Oh, we have done it at many.
Tara
Movies in a row with all our friends.
Pam
We didn't yell anything back. All we did was laugh at things that were not intended to be funny but were, in fact, hilarious.
Tara
Yeah, Honey, honey, honey was a full on MST3K experience for MBTV, if I remember correctly. Okay, fine. It's not a regular trait, but I've done it. Is, in fact. Please adjust your score accordingly. I picked number 13. How frequently do you complain about things that are completely out of your control, like the weather or getting a flat tire on your bike? A, well, everybody does it from time to time. Like once a day. B, I do this hourly. I admit it. C, I never do. How inconsiderate that would be to those around me. What is this question? This is small talk. What are we talking about? It's annoying to be like, the traffic was crazy, the weather was nuts. What? Look at you.
Pam
I think there's a difference between complaining about something and just commenting on it. I think the complaining is the part that's annoying.
Tara
Well, I complain about this question because.
Pam
Okay.
Tara
Because we do complain about things that are completely out, beyond our control.
Pam
Yeah. And I think they're saying it's annoying. It's fine to do it now and then.
Dave
I thought you were saying you're okay. Spider.
Tara
I'm confused. I guess I'll work on this. I guess I'll work on this.
Dave
Number 15. How many wedgies have you given in your life? A, none. Ever be a couple? C, Countless trillions. Has anybody here experienced a wedgie, given a wedgie, been on the receiving end of a wedgie, or have heard of anybody actually getting a wedgie? Because my theory is nobody guess Wedgies. It's just something that happens in pop culture.
Pam
I've never given a wedgie. Yeah, I'm sure I haven't gotten a wedgie, like, by. By a bully or whatever, which is the implication here. However, in my marching band years old, for giggles, there was a vogue of, like, pantsing people. That was, like, a thing that. That became. Yeah, I mean, you know, there. There was a moment for a couple of months when, like, you were always on your guard about being Pantsed? If you're a boy. And have I pants people? I sure have.
Dave
Well, wait, is wedgie an escalation of panting, or is it the other way around?
Tara
A wedgie hurts.
Pam
A wedgie hurts. But getting pants, you might accidentally. Accidentally pull underwear down as well as pants.
Dave
Did you tack your underwear just to be safe?
Pam
No, I don't think I ever got pants. But I was a pantser, right? So I answered this question with the pants pants things in mind.
Dave
It sounds like it could be about pulling down trousers, but it also sounds like it could be the tanks of World War II.
Pam
I don't think. I don't think. Normally you refer to yourself as a.
Dave
Pantser, but listen to Sassy became a coffee table book podcast. So gradually, nobody noticed. Okay, well, I mean, this answer is never. I've never given, never received. But also, I kind of don't believe wedgies are as big of a thing as the pop culture industrial complex wants us to believe it is.
Tara
I have been wedgied.
Dave
Really?
Pam
Really?
Dave
Yeah, but you and your sex Capades.
Pam
I was thinking you and your sister are close enough in age, but not by your sister.
Dave
Wait, was it a medical procedure?
Tara
I eat wedgies. You have them with a wedgie salad and your toast to have a nice wedgie salad. You know, you're surround. A bunch of goofball dorks. I hung out with boys a lot like wedgies. You know, it's like they grab all of it and yank and.
Dave
Okay, but here's the thing. Can I predict what the Pam difference is here?
Pam
Sure.
Dave
You wrote love notes on the back of your underwear so when they gave you wedgies, they would have something to read. I like you, Curtis.
Pam
Not Curtis.
Dave
Yeah, I don't know.
Pam
Curtis would never pan Curt.
Dave
Kurt's a good Texan name with a K, Maybe.
Tara
Yeah, it's the love interest. She's not denying why girls are weird. Thanks for reading my novels, Dave.
Dave
She's not denying it.
Pam
All right, I got a seven, putting me in the lowest category of annoying. The person who scores this low has absolutely no peeving qualities. Dave is not convinced. You do not experience public eruptions from any bodily orifices. You're unfailingly polite and courteous. You always wipe the pee sprinkles from the seat. I don't, because I sit on it like a normal person. You do not whine. You are a delight to be around and a wonderful person in every way, and that makes you very annoying. Hey.
Dave
I was just. No, I was laughing at the image of some just walking into the bathroom, pants already down, just already peeing before they even get to the toilet.
Pam
Cause they got pants.
Dave
This is just carnage. You turn off a luminol and it's just fucking Jackson Pollock baiting everywhere.
Tara
Just pull the pee, Dave, what did you get?
Dave
I think I had a five.
Pam
A five.
Dave
A five. And I think I really deserve a four because I think one of them.
Pam
Is a little silly, which.
Dave
Well, I mean, sometimes you just burp. Sometimes you're like, oh, excuse me.
Pam
Yeah, well, that's unfortunate, but sometimes it's sometimes necessary.
Dave
Okay. I don't really, but.
Pam
Oh, you object to. It's not even unfortunate.
Dave
I just didn't read it that way. I guess I just read it like, you know, it seems sarcastic to me. So. Okay, but I'll take the five. Okay. So five, five, five.
Pam
Okay.
Tara
And then what do you think I got, Dave?
Dave
12.
Tara
That's what I thought you would think. I got nine, which is.
Dave
I think you fudged the numbers most.
Pam
Maybe.
Tara
I even at one point said I'm a B and a C, and it only gave me one point. So I tried. I tried to get as annoying as I am, apparently.
Pam
13.
Tara
I should have had way more points. So I'll go ahead and give myself more points and move myself into most everyone is an irritant from time to time. So don't take it so hard if you fell into this category. But let's face it, you can be a bit of a pain in the butt. You're probably a little bit oblivious to this tendency, but it's true. Why not attempt to be spelled?
Pam
Its no apostrophe, thank you.
Tara
Why not attempt to be margin? Why not attempt to be marginally less of a weenie? By following our helpful hints, barge in a little less often. Think before you grab. Keep your nasality to a minimum. Don't you feel more pleasant already? That's a real annoying answer.
Dave
Think before you grab. Feels like an apocalyptic T shirt slug.
Tara
I. You know, I didn't get all the bad habits because I didn't have elastic. I didn't have braces, so. Or retainer. So I probably might have gotten three and four. So that's why I'm fine. Moving into the you know you're annoying category because I know I'm annoying. I know I'm annoying.
Pam
Everyone's a little annoying, really. There it is.
Tara
There we go.
Dave
There we go. All right, time to move on.
Tara
It just happens sometimes.
Pam
Who could help it?
Dave
Oops.
Pam
Oops. Oopsies. I borped my tummy air Came up.
Dave
Mouth bubbles. Okay, let's move on.
Pam
Let's move on to our calls. And I. Normally we do them in the order of our episodes, so teen life, pop culture, fashion, et cetera. But I flipped them this month because of two different calls from the same person who. So that we needed to have them in order. Okay, so we're starting with pop culture. Let's hear clip number one. And this person didn't give their name, but they called back immediately afterwards and then explained. So go ahead.
Caller
Hello. Listen to Sassy. I was listening to the June 1991 pop culture episode, and you mentioned the Zine Girl Terms. And I just want to say Allison and Molly are members of one of the best Riot gold bands of all time, Bratmobile. And I don't think that was mentioned, and I just wanted to be pedantic. I'm sorry. But, yeah, Bratmobile Rule. One of the members of Bratmobile won an Oscar for best documentary. I forgot which one, but she won an Oscar, so that's cool. And, yeah, their song Girl Germs is a really good song. And their song Love Sing is also great. That whole album, Potty Mouth, highly recommend it. Bratmobile rules up there with Bikini Kill as the great Rio go band of the 90s. And. Yeah. And thanks.
Dave
Wait, is there a band called Zucchini Kill?
Pam
Bikini Kill.
Dave
Oh, because there's a. There's a vegan. No, because there's a vegan bakery here called Zucchini Kill.
Pam
Oh, that's cute.
Tara
That is cute.
Dave
Okay, I just misheard it, and it was Brat Mobile with an R. Correct.
Pam
Yes. Let's go ahead and play the next call because that's. It's about the same thing.
Caller
Hi, listen to Sapphire Heather calling. I called near your very first episode. I am the cocaine queen of Innisfail, Alberta. I'm just calling in reference to the Girl Germs zine that was featured in your recent Fatty Listen to Thassy podcast. Alice and Molly are actually the founders of the band Bratmobile, so they are actually on tour again. And I know this because I met them recently as my friend Rose Melberg. And Boss plays guitar with that band currently. So I do have another story about Rose Melberg coming up because her band Packet Trap was reviewed in Sassy magazine. But I am going to wait for that episode. But anyway, just wanted to lay out that. Do a little humble bragging because I met them. And thanks.
Dave
Bye.
Tara
One of the members of Brat Mobile was a Sassy intern, according to the Internet.
Pam
That would explain how Girl Germs got in probably.
Dave
We're through the looking glass here, people.
Pam
Yeah, I'll. I'll go ahead and say I was. I. That the Riot girl bands are a big blind spot for me. Sorry. So I, I didn't know any of that, but thank you for informing us. I. I know all the names of the bands, but I did not know who was in them or that any of them went on to win Oscars. So thank you for informing us. I appreciate that. But also, speaking of my blind spots, Mark Blankenship, our friend, was visiting last weekend. We went to see the Housemaid and at the end of it, the song came up and he said, oh, they probably spent a quarter of their budget on this song. And I was like, why? Who is it? He went, taylor Swift. Because I don't know any of her moving music either. I know Shake it off. And that's kind of it. Next, let's hear clip three.
Caller
Pam, Dave, Tara, it's Megan, your unofficial River Phoenix correspondent. And I can vouch that Alec is addict.
Pam
Nobody.
Caller
Nobody wants a 30 year reunion album. No, not even me. Not even me. Nobody wants this. Alec is Attic is worse than the musical contributions of Robert Downey Jr. And how I Met yout Mother guy, whatever his name is. It's worse. It's worse than that. Nobody should listen to it. As somebody who's listened to every single, every single piece of Aleca's Attic music, nobody should listen to it. Kevin Coom Forever.
Pam
The How I Met yout Mother guy she's referring to is Josh Radner. I assumed that Dave was going to look up the clip that he is constantly torturing us with on Extra Hot Grade.
Dave
I haven't played in a while. No, let's be fair.
Pam
You true, not constantly, but Josh Ragnar's.
Dave
Auditory Experience, the album Red.
Pam
Oof. Speaking of Taylor Swift, thank you for also educating us again. Alika's Attic. Not Alika's Attic, which I'm sure is how I said it when we talked about it. But yeah, thanks for confirming it is not worth seeking out. I didn't think it was, but it's good to know for sure. Let's hear call number four.
Caller
Hi, it's Courtney from New York. I am an Episode one listener and when you talked about Odyssey of the Mind, I had to pause my workout, pause the episode and call you because I did Odyssey of the Mind in middle school and it was a team of six girls. We were 12 and 13. And our odyssey of the Mind was based on the obscenity trial about Ulysses A book that we all attempted to read and absorbed none of. And we decided to build a bridge for some reason, something that had to do with censorship and people meeting across time. So we built this bridge in the garage, the unventilated garage of one of the girls I was on the team with. And to give the bridge some texture, we used this spray that people use for, like, insulation foam. So we all got really, really high as we were doing this, and I think this is the first time most of us actually got really, really high. Anyway, I think we placed or even won, but it was a really fun experience, and it's a great story. And Odyssey of the Mind, aside from the weird, you know, drugging part of it, was actually a really good experience. I think kids should do it more, especially in the age where they're all addicted to smartphones. So, anyway, thanks, guys. Love the pod.
Pam
Since we talked about Little Man Tape, which is how Odyssey the Mind came up, it was added to Prime Video right after we talked about it on the podcast. So it's leaving in 15 days as of this recording on the 16th, so presumably at the end of the month. So if you've never seen it, check it out.
Dave
Get your affairs in order.
Pam
Get your affairs in order. I do find it funny that the caller was like, I think it was the first time any of us got high. Like, oh, really? A bunch of kids doing Odyssey of the Mind weren't partying every weekend. And I include myself in that, too. I'm obviously a bigger nerd than anyone. I just finished saying I didn't know who Taylor Swift was, or they were like, I know who she is. Didn't know what her music sounded.
Tara
It's okay.
Pam
It was for school, right?
Tara
We can't get in trouble.
Pam
It was first goal. Obviously, it was worth it if they won or placed so they can't remember.
Tara
They were so up.
Pam
Insulation foam. All right, next.
Michelle
This is Michelle from Eugene, Oregon. I've been listening to. Listen to Sassy for a while now. I've been catching up on all the old episodes, and I've made it to April 1991 pop culture. And I just wanted to call and tell you about the new Kids on the block book. For $39.95.
Pam
I had that book.
Michelle
It was totally worth every penny. It was given to me, I think, for my 13th birthday, which was in March of 1991, so not her pennies. And the book was enormous. It was huge. The photos, they were, I don't know, kind of artsy, gritty, like a Little edgy. But the main thing that really stuck out to me was that there was a full two page spread of all five of the guys in a like a locker room shower type situation. Not, I think there might have been a bare bun situation, but I, I can't really remember. But to 13 year old me, that was the best gift I could have possibly been given and way more important to me than a pair of jeans. All right, thank you. I can't wait to catch up to you in real time. I think I'm almost there.
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Dave
Was that $39 back then or was that like what it goes for now?
Pam
No, I think we were all stunned that it was 39.95 at the time.
Dave
I just did the math. This $95 today, adjusted for inflation.
Pam
Wow, that's crazy.
Dave
That's a lot of money.
Pam
Yeah, it is.
Dave
Yeah. $40 was the going rate for a video game console cartridge back then. So you could get a copy of Looping. And don't, by the way, if I can travel back in time and tell David T. Cole something, don't buy looping. It's very boring game. That's a lot of money.
Pam
Yeah, but to the caller's point about it was more valuable than a pair of jeans. I mean, speaking of people getting pants looking at that two page spread of the guys naked in a locker room. Anyway, let's hear our last pop culture call.
Caller
Hey everybody, I just listened to the episode where you talked about the movie chaplain and I'm not going to give my name because this is kind of a little bit of a mean story, but I'm going to tell it anyway because it just makes me laugh.
Dave
More of this. Seriously, if you've got a mean story, don't worry about it. We'll keep your amenity.
Caller
Many, many years ago, I was watching TV with my brother's girlfriend when an advertisement for this movie came on and we watched the trailer for it and when the trailer finished, my brother's girlfriend looked at me and said, I didn't know he could talk. And so then I had to explain to her that just the movies were silent but Charlie Chaplin was not. And yeah, that was a fun conversation. So still, 30 years later, whenever anybody mentions this movie, I get a little chuckle over that conversation. Conversation in which I had explained to someone that the difference between silent movies and mute people. So anyway, thought that story would give you a little chuckle. Hope you guys have a great day. Love the podcast. Thanks so much. Bye.
Dave
That woman is now her sister in.
Caller
Law.
Pam
So that's why she still has to keep her anonymous.
Dave
I think I would have world built that backwards to, like, at a certain point in time, the world did not have sound.
Pam
Right, Right.
Dave
Like the dinosaurs did not roar. They're just like. That was good podcasting, by the way. That was me opening my mouth.
Pam
I mean, I'm sure every parent has asked, when did the world become color, if any? As soon as a kid has seen an old, old footage in black and white, they've wondered that. Okay, okay, maybe just dumb kids. I don't know. I don't think I did, but who knows? I don't even know.
Dave
You are a news moron.
Pam
No. Hey, just because I'm not as little a news moron as you, 16 out of 19 is still an A. Okay. Congratulations, Dave. You're a news genius.
Caller
Yeah.
Pam
All right, let's move on to the teen life calls. The first one was going to sound very Familiar to Pam.
Caller
Clip 7 hello, this is Amy Turner. I worked for Sassy and went to Antarctica and wrote an article, Arctic Hallo about it. And it was one of the highlights of my life. All of it, all of the above. And I just remember bringing the Sassy magazines to take pictures with me and the Sassies all the way from New York to the bottom of the earth on many flights. And it was an incredible experience. And we had to bring our poop back with us. And we flew in a plane, a DC10 that had no pressurization, so it was like, not pressurized. Maybe it was. We flew, I don't know, 6,000ft above, above the water as we watched the icebergs form. Very cool, very cold. And then when we flew back, we had sled dogs with us because this Norwegian group were retracing the steps of Amundsen's 1911 journey to the Pole. It was all cuckoo crazy. So what else? I almost got lost in a snowstorm with my cousins. We had a very, very, very close call. No, blindness is a real thing. I was very grateful to not die in Antarctica. Check. It was also the quietest place I've ever been. Like, to hear no sound. I know it doesn't make any sense, but that was pretty incredible. And it was amazing to have Sassy on my side to write about my experience. So thanks for your podcast. All you're doing to keep Sassy in our. In our collective memories. And there you go. See you in Antarctica.
Dave
Pam, did you tell her not to talk about the poop?
Pam
I. That was my first question. I wanted to know more about, like, we had to bring our poop back in a bag. Say more like wrap every piece.
Dave
I like to talk about a little toilet Strat.
Pam
Yeah.
Dave
Especially when they're at the bottom of the world.
Pam
Yeah.
Tara
I'll tell Amy to call back with the shit. I can only imagine what Dave would be like in a non pressurized open flight vehicle at 6,000ft above the Earth. He would be buried in sled dogs just hanging onto them.
Pam
Dave.
Tara
Dave, is this not your nightmare?
Dave
Yeah. Are you talking about the helicopter flight in Hawaii where I. I sure am. I sure almost pissed and myself 20 times. So scared.
Pam
So scared.
Tara
It was so unexpected how scared you were.
Dave
Really didn't think I was going to come back from that one. It was so bumpy. And there were so many open windows and doors that should be shut and padlocked so that you won't fall out.
Tara
And I was pregnant.
Pam
And then we were, like, really as.
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Tara
And Jason was hanging out.
Dave
Oh, God.
Pam
Hanging out the window with a strap and his camera. You were like, he's in a Vietnam movie.
Dave
We were on. It was Kauai, right?
Pam
Yes, yes.
Dave
And so they're like, helicoptering over the Jurassic park mountains from the opening of Jurassic Park. Like, literally, the guy was saying. And this is what I would put on the Jurassic park theme. I'm like, oh, please don't. And literally we're just like, skimming the mountaintops. Like, he's like going. It's like. Like they were shooting for the movie. I'm like, that's too, too close. Too close. Yeah. I was so happy to be on the ground. I was shaking at the end of it. I was just like, oh.
Tara
He was scared from liftoff. Because helicopters take off differently than a plane. So a helicopter, you're like, I'm in a helicopter.
Michelle
I'm in the air.
Pam
And he was just like.
Dave
Could you imagine a helicopter taking off like a plane? And how confused you would be, this helicopter going down the road at an angle. What the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would enjoy that. I don't know what would be worse, because Antarctica, like, the worst you're gonna get is you just can't see anything. But the Hawaiian experience was you can see a lot, and then suddenly you're in the. The cloud layer near the top. That was the other thing. The cloud layer and the top of the mountain were sort of like, at the same level.
Pam
Yeah.
Dave
So I was just convinced the guy was going to slam into the mountain anyways. That's my phobia.
Pam
Poor kid.
Dave
Yep. Poor Dave.
Tara
Poor Dave. But I'll tell Amy to call back with more stories.
Dave
Yeah, noted. Very interested in the poop. Yeah. You think it's still there?
Pam
That they just left it in a can? Like in the. In an airport?
Dave
They put an American flag next to it.
Pam
Well, that does feel fitting. Let's go.
Dave
And another flag under it that just said Amy, exclamation point.
Pam
Moving on. Turds. Let's hear the clip. 8.
Caller
Pam Dave. But this is for Tara. It's Megan. AMD July 1991 Life issue. Tara, you just like very casually offhandedly mentioned the Deliberate Stranger to describe the way that someone was dressed. I don't remember who the Deliberate Stranger is. My Roman Empire. I don't know if people are saying that anymore. I don't care if anybody's people aren't saying that anymore. The 1986 two part TV movie the Deliberate Stranger starring people's sexiest Nana lives. Mark Harmon. Ted Bundy is something that love to talk about. And sadly, as I go about my life, I don't find nearly enough.
Pam
People.
Caller
Who know what I'm talking about when I talk about it. There was a phase in my life that if I saw it, I was just like, bleep, bloop. Like going through the channels on my channel changer and like Deliberate Stranger was on. Like if Deliberate stranger starts at 11:00pm, it's like, oh, well, I guess I'm just up till 3 o' clock in the morning now because I have to watch both parts of the Deliberate Stranger starring Mark Harmon. I believe that Mark Harmon's casting in this is brilliant, but it's also a reason why we think, like everybody thinks that Ted Bundy is hot when he's rolling along hot. Mark Hormon hot. Much like Zac Efron when he was cast as Ted Bundy. Also hot. Ted Bundy, not really that hot. He just knew how to comb his hair differently. Anyway, you just lit up something inside me when you just said the Deliberate Stranger. And yeah, I think I'm more obsessed with Deliberate Stranger than I am River Phoenix. Is that possible? It might be possible. Okay, thank you. Just. Thank you. I've been coughing forever.
Pam
Thank you, Megan. I just want to say I do two other podcasts with our dear friend Sarah Debunting who is a true crime expert. She has a true crime bookstore, exhibit B Books, which you can find online for all your true crime book needs. So the Deliberate Stranger comes up more in my life than you would think, Megan. Like not to say Sarah's always talking about it, but I definitely know it's one of the touchstones of like true crime media along with the the TV movie about Jeffrey McDonald where Gary Cole plays him as the family Annihilator. So yeah, if you want to watch the Deliberate Stranger if the idea of hot truly Mark Harmon at the peak of his hotness in 1986 playing Ted Bundy. The DVD is on eBay. Many many copies. I'll link that. Dave will yell at me if I put an okay dot are you clip in the show notes. But if you're brave enough you can find the full movie there as well to stream and earmuffs Pam, you can find it if you know how to sail under a skull and crossbones. Non dot wink wink. It is available that way too. The Deliberate Stranger it's around I was kind of surprised it wasn't just on YouTube actually.
Tara
Yeah, I don't know it Fashion Etc.
Pam
Let's hear from Jenny in clip nine.
Jenny
Hello, Jenny from Saskatoon here. Just wanted to tell you that you discussing Jolene Cream bleach. I had this sudden like flashback that I had suppressed from my memory of being a like 13, 14 year old girl and I know the advertisement had like you know, octogenarian teenagers advertising the product, but I was an actual teenager and somehow was given purchase for myself. I don't know. I got Jolene Cream bleach and I used it for oh years for my upper lip as a teen. And so mid-90s I was in the bathroom with a full on chemistry set. This thing came with like a little container with some sort of powder. I can I'm smelling it now as I tell you about it, the suppressed memory and you would pour the powder onto like a little tray and then you would smooth put on some activator cream and like mix it up with this like little brush sort of thing like a spoon and like a tiny, tiny tiny thing tool and you would spread it on your face and then wash everything.
Dave
This could be this product but it also describes going to Baskin Robbins and.
Pam
Sampling ice cream box.
Jenny
Anyway, I did this for years. I don't know when I stopped. I don't know what I replaced it with. All I know now is that I am in my 40s and don't give a so but as a team that was what I used. So thanks for the memory. And as a another thing I wanted to say was I was listening to you talk about all those phone numbers that people can call and like the 1 in 100 vanilla and the 1800 like answer these questions about your Life, like, are you a good kisser? And they all say, ask your parents. Like, parents permission. Can you imagine going to your mom and dad being like, hey, can I call the vanilla hotline? I don't know what I would do if my kid asked me. I would either think it was adorable or lock them in their room. I don't know. Anyway. Funny, funny. Okay, bye.
Dave
I think you know what you would say. Stop.
Pam
Collaborating. Collaborate and listen.
Dave
Thank you.
Tara
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pam
That's what she's trying to do. Stop her life and collaborate and listen with Vanilla Ice on the phone. Yeah, the. The complications of early, or rather late 20th century cosmetics. The. The way she's describing it reminds me of every time you watch, like, a movie from the 80s where someone has to take an old pregnancy test and there's like a box and you have to pee into a vial and it's like multiple pieces instead of just, you know, a stick. That sounds like how Jolene cream bleach.
Dave
Also worked when you bleach your upper lip.
Pam
I haven't done it, but go on.
Dave
And it grows back in. Do you get, like, visible lip roots?
Pam
I think probably.
Dave
Do you look like Justin Bieber is camping out on your upper lip?
Pam
I don't know. Jenny, call back and let us know.
Dave
Let us know.
Pam
She doesn't care now, so. All right, clip 10.
Caller
So I'm listening to the slumber party episode and Jenny from Chicago, number one. We live very close to each other, so I feel. I feel that we are brethren. And emery boards. That would also be on my list of things that I absolutely can't deal with. I can only weirdly deal with glass files, which, now that I think about it, are a glass frosted product, but does not sound like frosted glass, which really sets my jaw on edge. Truly, deeply. I can't. My jaw hurts thinking about it. But emery boards? No, Absolutely not. All right, that's all I gotta say. Bye.
Dave
Thank you. No name. I wonder if there's a word for it. I should look it up.
Pam
There probably is.
Dave
Yeah. Because I feel like it's common enough that they've given it some nice little scientific sounding melody name.
Pam
Yeah, well, people have sensory issues. I guess that would fall into that category.
Dave
Do you think I can get a medical alert bracelet says, do not jam frosted glass into this man's hand. He will drop it.
Pam
That's the first thing they do when EMTs pick you up in an ambulance. They try to file your nails as they drive you to the hospital.
Dave
That's right.
Tara
I think it's all just misophonia.
Jenny
Hmm.
Pam
Well, I think misophonia isn't that specific to the sound of mouth noises.
Dave
Polyphonic Spree. Misophonia's got like 17 people in the band.
Tara
I think misophonia is just sounds that make you uncomfortable. I've probably moist phonics.
Dave
Oh. It's not the sound. It's the texture.
Pam
It's the feel.
Dave
Yeah. It's not sound. It's.
Tara
Well, it's a trigger. It's a trigger.
Dave
It's a sensory trigger for sure.
Pam
Yeah.
Tara
You just made my tooth tingle.
Dave
Oh, can you say that again in the character from before the show?
Tara
I don't remember the voice anymore.
Dave
Just wing it.
Tara
I just made my tooth tingle.
Dave
One of these days we're just. Okay, here's a new thing. Instead of the diary, we just get a little Pam doing that at the top of the show.
Pam
It's August of 1991. You're feeling great.
Dave
Moving on.
Pam
Let's move on. Oh, this category. Sorry. This category of calls I have labeled context of original topic is a very distant memory. We have not recorded a slumber party episode since October of 2025. So I remember that we talked about this. I don't remember how it came up. So go ahead.
Dave
But we're not discouraging voicemails about the distant past.
Pam
Certainly not. We're just saying we don't remember how it came up. We're going to keep talking about.
Dave
Temper your expectations. Here we go.
Caller
Hi, Dave, Pam and Tara. I'm just calling. Sorry, this is Kelly in Rhode island as calling because of the migraine discussion. I also get migraines. I also love rosatriptam. Thank goodness we have it. But the cold cap thing, I've actually ordered one. It's not here yet, but I was reading on a migraine sub on Reddit about these cold caps and I thought that sounds like the best thing in the world. I already have an eye mask that has. That has cooling gel in it. And I think it ostensibly for like reducing puffiness in your eyes, but it really feels good on a migraine too. So, Tara, you might want to look into that if you don't already have one. But that's all I have to say. I just wanted to commiserate on the migraine thing. Kara, do you ever have thoughts when you think about. I know you don't intend to live through these zombie apocalypse, but sometimes when I think about, well, what if I survive for a little bit? I think about raiding drugstores, pharmacies to get the tryptam that they have on stock. So, anyway, that's where my crazy mind goes. Love the podcast. Thanks so much. Talk to you soon. Bye.
Dave
On the negative side, humanity has been wiped out and we're doomed. On the positive side, free drugs.
Pam
Yeah, I mean, a. Good luck with the cold cap. Let us know how it goes. I have not looked into that, but. But if I'm raiding drugstores, I'm probably going for opioids. I'm just skipping over resitryptan personally, but in terms of how grateful how. How lucky we are and whether I would need to raid a drugstore, I just want to show my co hosts. This is half of my current supply of Ristriptan. This is a little Altoids container and it's almost full. The other half is in the bedroom. This is the. What I keep on my desk because they keep refilling the prescription like every three weeks. It feels. That feels like without me asking for it. And they used to only give me nine, and now they give 12. So I have probably like a hundred rhizatryptans in a stockpile at this point because I haven't gotten migraines that much. Like, it really is tailed off. So this is confidential to Kelly. What has really helped has been I've started taking propranolol every day, which is an. It's for high blood pressure, which I don't have. But they also prescribe it off label for migraines. So I take one of those in the morning and then at night, one Amovig, which, same thing. It's a. It's for. It's an antidepressant, I think. But they also prescribe it off label for migraines. Both of those have really reduced my incidence. So taking either of those as a preventative, it's much cheaper than all of the new injectables, which, like, they'll bait and switch you. Because I did take those for a while, too. And then after two years, they were like, oh, the coupons run out and your. Your health insurance doesn't cover it. So now it's $600 a month. And I was like, no, it's not. So if you're still getting migraines, look into that.
Dave
It's really good that we don't have kids in the house if you're putting 10,000 little pills in a mint case.
Pam
Well, this isn't. It's not. It's not narcotic. I don't think it would hurt anyone. I guess it would hurt you if you took all of them. But yes, we don't have kids in the house, and if we did, I wouldn't. Give me a break.
Dave
What if they took all of them? Became, like, super intelligent?
Pam
That could happen, Mother.
Dave
I know everything now.
Pam
I'll also add, before we move on to our final call, that Kelly left us another message. That was very nice. We all treasure it. I just wanted her to know that even though we're not going to play it, we. We did hear it. And thank you. We love you, too. All right, clip 12.
Caller
Hey, guys, this is Sarah from Evanston. I was Swedish deck cleaning this weekend and listening to old episodes and came across Dave talking about the slide whistles again and remembered that I gave slide whistles out for Halloween last year and how everyone was a guest this year. My noisy toy. To go out. I found the little conductor train whistles made out of wood, which at least are noisy, but I'm sure you do people in theory. I'd like to hear your comments. I'll take them offline. Thanks again. I'll talk to you guys later. Bye.
Dave
Here they come, clickety clack down the track. It's lots and lots of trains.
Pam
Dave, explain in what context a whole box of wooden train whistles came to our house.
Dave
Yeah, well, first of all, I'm disappointed in the quality of those train whistles. I knew as soon as I opened the box it was going to be bad news because the one I had is a kid.
Pam
Yeah.
Dave
Was quite big. It was like. And it had three holes that you blow into to make the train whistle sound. These little ones, they came, they were much smaller and they only had two. And they didn't really sound that much like a train, like. But the. The big ones, they really do. But I bought them along with a dozen typical cartoon engine train engineer hats for the Gilded Age watch parties we were having. And as soon as somebody came in the door, you would hand them an engineer's hat and a train whistle so they could come in and enjoy themselves. And by enjoy themselves, I mean have forced fun.
Pam
Everyone wore them.
Dave
Yeah, they were it. They were popular.
Pam
They were not as good as we did. This was also Dave's innovation when we had watch parties for Dr. Odyssey, RIP Dr. Fuckboat, he got like a box of captain's hats from Amazon. And that's what people wore for those yacht rock hats. Yacht rock hats, exactly. So we have been. I was at a gathering last night with a bunch of people who regularly came to watch parties for both of those shows. And they were like, what's the next show? I'm like, I don't know. Networks are not making anything in that, like, specific lane of trash that would fit for a watch party. Like, I don't want to have everyone over to watch ncis. You know what I mean? Like, there's nothing. Although it also has boats, but it's, there's nothing that has like jumped out at me. Like, oh yeah, this is, this is a good show to have people over to like peanut gallery through. So, but, but to anyone listening who has been to our house, I'm. It's on my mind. I'm still looking. Those are fun, Gilded age, great, trashy show.
Dave
All right, so that's it.
Pam
That's it.
Dave
Okay, this intro is going to sound really weird if I don't edit this because there's going to be no music. But here we go. Tara.
Pam
Next time we'll be opening up the August 1991 issue and talking about its teen life topics. Learn how to survive your long distance relationship.
Dave
Ring ring.
Pam
Hang out with Kim and the ladies of American Gladiator.
Tara
No sleep.
Pam
To the latest on the road in Brooklyn and more from my plug this week. Justin Theroux has been on Fallout Season 2 on Prime Video and I wrote about him at GQ and how several important roles in his filmography are. They kind of epitomized different phases of the business. Psycho from American Psycho literally to. Well, go and read it and you can find out. I will link that in the show notes.
Dave
I'm Justin Theroux. That was my sound clip for Justin Theroux.
Caller
Good.
Pam
That's pretty good. Yeah. You can also call us a headline at 7:20 Sassy.
Caller
Go.
Pam
Leave us a voicemail about the show or the magazine and we may play it on a future episode. You can find more information about the podcast, links to our visual aids and contact info for all of us too.
Tara
Sassy D. No, it's my Adam Sandler. Thank you for listening and we'll see you next time.
Pam
Beautiful.
Caller
All right.
Dave
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Episode: July 1991 Slumber Party: Bratmobile, Chaplin & The Deliberate Stranger
Date: January 20, 2026
Hosts: Tara Ariano, Pamela Ribon, David T. Cole
In this lively slumber party installment, hosts Tara, Pam, and Dave assemble for a deep dive into Sassy’s July 1991 offering—complete with double quizzes, riot grrrl nostalgia, pop culture corrections, listener calls, and comical personal anecdotes. From heated debates on pop culture quizzes and the true nature of Vatican City, to unexpected journeys into the world of Riot Grrrl with Bratmobile, awkward recounts of wedgies and pantsing, and a surprisingly detailed conversation about pooping in Antarctica, the episode delivers both the meaningful and the absurd. As always, the hosts’ chemistry and their lightly sarcastic, nostalgic tone delivers a warm dose of Gen X camaraderie.
“Now I always think of that quiz whenever Burkina Faso comes up in my life, which, I mean, to be honest, it’s not often.” (06:28)
“I did.” (10:36)
"I went up to the teacher, I explained what happened, and everything’s fine now." (08:44)
“You are a delight to be around and a wonderful person in every way, and that makes you very annoying. Hey.” (19:57)
“One of the members of Bratmobile won an Oscar for best documentary…I just wanted to lay out that. Do a little humble bragging because I met them.” (24:44, 25:04)
“Nobody wants a 30-year reunion album. No, not even me. Aleka’s Attic is worse than the musical contributions of Robert Downey Jr.” (26:50)
“I didn’t know he could talk. And so then I had to explain to her that just the movies were silent but Charlie Chaplin was not.” (33:08)
“I’m smelling it now as I tell you about it, the suppressed memory…” (43:40)
“All I gotta say. Bye.” (46:48)
Amy Turner, former Sassy writer, calls to recount her article about going to Antarctica—“we had to bring our poop back with us…very close call. No, blindness is a real thing. I was very grateful to not die in Antarctica.” (34:53)
On podcast labor:
Pam: "Let's step outside the ... you know, the framing device of the diary. Dave is the president of making work for himself..." (01:45)
On generational disconnects:
Pam, re: Taylor Swift: “Because I don't know any of her moving music either. I know ‘Shake it Off’ and that's kind of it.” (26:00)
On Vatican City:
Tara: "I mean, the building is a country? The building is a country." (09:21)
Dave (mocking): “Do you think Vatican City is one giant building, like from Lord of the Rings?” (09:26)
On quiz results:
Pam: “I got a seven...The person who scores this low has absolutely no peeving qualities...and that makes you very annoying. Hey.” (19:57)
On nerdy rituals:
Pam: “Did you have no meetings at work this week? Did you miss them and wish you could listen in on someone else's? You're welcome.” (03:50)
On bodily function humor:
Dave (on public bathroom chaos): “This is just carnage. You turn off a luminol and it’s just fucking Jackson Pollock baiting everywhere.” (20:46)
The hosts' rapport and nostalgic lens provide a rich, inviting window into early-’90s adolescent pop culture, magazine lore, and growing up weird and wordy. From obscure band trivia and Sassy staff antics to personal health hacks and the philosophy of forced fun, July 1991’s slumber party episode is quintessential Listen to Sassy—funny, meandering, and full of lived Gen X wit.