July 1991 Teen Life: Hamburger U, Girls' Self-Esteem & Things You Can Measure In Pints

Summary

Listen To Sassy: Life In The 90s

Episode: July 1991 Teen Life: Hamburger U, Girls' Self-Esteem & Things You Can Measure In Pints
Hosts: Tara Ariano, Pamela Ribon, David T. Cole
Release Date: December 9, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this nostalgic romp through the July 1991 issue of Sassy magazine, Tara, Pam, and Dave break down the issue’s major features, discuss recurring 90s teen themes, and riff on everything from fast food management school to navigating breakups, girls’ self-esteem, bodily functions, Cleveland’s cultural scene, and the eternal question: how do you know if he really likes you? The trio delight in their signature mix of empathy, sarcasm, and digressions—serving both fond memories and biting commentary.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cringe-Inducing Budgeting (00:00–01:00)

• A brief (and humorous) aside about personal budgeting devolves into banter about meal subscriptions and money management apps.
  • Notable Exchange:
    • Pam: "I can't cook." (00:07)
    • Tara: "You know this." (00:08)

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2. Feature Recaps

a. “Her Sister Amy” – Life with a Neurodivergent Sibling (03:52–07:18)

• Leslie, age 22, photographs her 18-year-old sister Amy, who has cri du chat syndrome.
• Focus on empathy, daily life, and the impact on the family.
  • Pam: "I felt empathetic for everyone involved. But it seems like this girl has a good life. I hope she still does." (06:25)
• The article avoids exploitation and self-pity, instead offering an intimate look at family dynamics.

b. “Dump That Can Do” – How to Break Up (07:18–10:49)

• Step-by-step guidance for ending harmful relationships, with some caveats about using friends for break-up validation.
  • Pam: "That feels like a trap for your friend... and then two weeks later you get back together..." (08:04)
• Modern reflections: Tara checks advice relevance with her own nearly-teen and realizes cultural gaps ("What's a bank teller?" [10:12]).

c. “Would You Like Some Fries With That Diploma?” – Hamburger University at McDonald’s (10:49–13:42)

• Mike reports on McDonald's management training school (“Hamburger University”), both admiring and poking fun at its cult-like, teamwork-driven culture.
  • Pam: "It's essential to that—a glaring nonstop emphasis on teamwork. Like, what do you think people learn when they take business courses?" (11:45)
  • Dave: “It’s McDonald’s, not McDonald.” (12:05)
• Deep dive into the McJordan burger, management training, and a riff on what an “Animal House” at Hamburger U would look like. (13:09–14:13)

d. “Why You Liked Yourself Better When You Were 11” – Girls’ Self-Esteem (14:28–17:00)

• Explores Harvard research showing girls often lose confidence in adolescence; 12-year-old Alicia Ostern pushes back and runs her own study.
  • Pam: “Christina refers to them as theories. They are not. They’re findings.” (14:28)
  • Side discussion on women's continued struggles with confidence and STEM fields.
• Later, they trace what became of Alicia (she’s now a successful attorney/landlord in NYC). (16:27)

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3. Notable Regulars, Features, & Humor

a. Fiction – “Serenade” by Seth Kaufman (19:49–22:37)

• The hosts detect a male author’s heavy hand and witness a classic awkward teen encounter centered on guitar playing and mild sexual tension.
  • Tara: “You can always tell when the fiction is not written by a young woman in this magazine.” (19:59)

b. Let Me Hear Your Body Talk / Health Tidbits (22:51–24:43)

• Discussion of supportive friends during smoking cessation, anger possibly being depression or a chemical imbalance, and men’s brains aging faster than women’s.
  • Dave: “According to a study at the University of Pennsylvania, men's brains deteriorate faster than women's as they age. Can confirm.” (24:47)

c. Things Measurable in Pints (25:24–28:38)

• Unhealthy US states, and the revelation that humans can generate up to three pints of gas per day—leading to a flurry of fart jokes.
  • Dave: “I could blow three pints over tea this week.” (27:36)
• Mushroom storage tips and a whimsical exploration of whether produce is breathing and metaphors for suffocating dreams in the fridge. (28:01–28:46)

d. Advice Segments (“What Now?”/“Help for Him”) (29:10–32:54)

• Guidance on safe music listening volumes and panicky first-date experiences for teen boys.
  • Pam: “This is exactly what happens in the series premiere of Beverly Hills 90210.” (31:07)

e. Sibling Rivalries – “What He Said” (33:09–36:37)

• Sassy staffers’ brothers recall their most horrid acts toward sisters, leading to a digressive, jokey analysis of whether they look like serial killers in their photos.

f. City Spotlight – Cleveland, Ohio (36:46–39:06)

• Mix of sincere and sardonic takes on Cleveland attractions, history, and pop-culture references (REM, 30 Rock, the legendary “hastily made Cleveland tourism video”).

g. “It Happened to Me” – Teenage Motherhood (39:14–44:07)

• A now-20-year-old recounts getting pregnant at 18, raising a child alone, and struggling with the realities of single motherhood.
  • Pam: “There’s some stupidity along the way...” (42:05)
  • The hosts highlight the lack of discussion about contraception and the complex, sometimes dubious math of surviving as a young single parent.

h. Stuff You Wrote – Teenage Letters & Poems (45:15–50:18)

• Hosts look up and report the fates of Sassy’s letter-writers (career outcomes, deaths, and professions).
• Highlights a dark, posthumous poem and some lighthearted musings about swatches and boys.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Pam (on breakups and friends):
  “It feels like a trap for your friend, but…” (08:28)

• Tara (on generational differences):
  “Are you putting up with behavior from him you wouldn’t normally tolerate in a bank teller…? And my kid said, 'What’s a bank teller?'" (10:12)

• Dave (on McJordan burger):
  “Michael Jordan, famous barbecue advocate.” (13:28)

• Pam (on self-esteem studies):
  "Girls are still lagging behind boys in the self-esteem area and in STEM." (15:31)

• Tara (on “It Happened To Me”):
  "I was the cringe face emoji, teeth out the whole time." (40:27)

• Dave (on pints of gas):
  "I could blow three pints over tea this week." (27:36)

• Pam (on sibling stories):
  "There are two Andes, and they both look like serial killers." (35:21)

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Start | Highlights | |--------------------------------------------|----------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | Budgeting Banter/Intro | 00:00 | Food, budgeting, and subscription woes | | "Her Sister Amy" | 03:52 | Photographing neurodivergent sibling, family empathy | | "Dump That Can Do" | 07:18 | Break-up guidance, friend traps, generational gap | | Hamburger University Feature | 10:49 | Fast food management school, Mike's tone, McJordan burger | | Girls' Self-Esteem | 14:28 | Confidence loss in adolescent girls, Alicia's counter-study | | Fiction: "Serenade" | 19:49 | Awkward male-written teen romance, guitar posturing | | Let Me Hear Your Body Talk | 22:51 | Smoking, self-improvement, comedic riffs | | Health & Pints of Gas | 25:24 | US health stats, gas humor, mushroom storage | | Advice/Help For Him | 29:10 | Music volume, first-date panic, car repairs | | "What He Said" Sibling Panel | 33:09 | Brothers on tormenting sisters, photo analysis humor | | Cleveland, Ohio Spotlight | 36:46 | Tower City Center, Lake Erie, Rock & Roll Hall of Fame | | "It Happened To Me": Teen Mom Story | 39:14 | Teenage pregnancy, choices, realities | | Stuff You Wrote / Viewer Mail | 45:15 | Tracking Sassy contributors, poetry, swatch-wearing boys |

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Lasting Takeaways & Tone

This episode balances sharp, 90s-aware nostalgia with honest reflections about gender, growing up, and pop culture, all filtered through the hosts’ quick wit and deep affection for Sassy. Whether joking about cousin-kissers at Hamburger U, skewering dubious teen magazine advice, or sincerely processing self-esteem findings, they keep the tone irreverent but thoughtful, serving a breeze of humor with slices of candor and, occasionally, real empathy.

This is ideal listening for Gen-Xers, lovers of vintage youth culture, or anyone curious about what pre-internet teen life really looked (and smelled… and farted) like.

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Listen for Yourself

• Quiz Mention: Listeners are encouraged to take the July 1991 quiz at listentosassy.com.
• Voicemail Line: 720-SASSY-GO (“How many pints do you fart?”)
• For more: See full episode show notes for links to Cleveland videos and reference books.

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Summary by Listen To Sassy’s biggest nostalgic fan, for all who missed the era or just the issue!

Transcript

[Tara]

Okay, it's kind of embarrassing how bad I am at budgeting.

[Emin]

Let me see your charges.

[Tara]

Ugh, fine.

[Emin]

You spent over $600 on takeout last month.

[Pam]

I can't cook.

[Tara]

You know this.

[Emin]

Yes, I have had your disgusting food, but you're literally paying for a meal subscription on top of that.

[Tara]

Whoa, wait, wait, wait.

[Pam]

That.

[Tara]

That can't be right.

[Emin]

Look, just get Rocket Money. It shows you all of your expenses in one place and even tracks your subscriptions. And if there's a subscription you don't want, which for you, there are a lot you don't need, you can just cancel right in the app with a few taps.

[Tara]

So you mean I don't call anyone to cancel? Nope.

[Emin]

No hold times or anything. And they'll even try to get you a refund on some of the months of wasted money, which is a lot of money for you.

[Tara]

Okay, okay.

[Emin]

And if you thought I was done, I'm not. The app can also help you make a budget that works for your income. Anytime you get close to your spending limits, it alerts you so you know exactly where your money is going at all times.

[Tara]

All right, Emin, what do I have to do?

[Emin]

Go to RocketMoney.com cancel or download the app from the Apple or Google Play stores?

[Unknown Speaker (Graduation Speech)]

The need for the special skills, the involvement, the knowledge, competitiveness that does exist.

I think that you as a graduating class going out to join those thousands of others that have graduated before you, I think you understand this. Hey, you notice this first Patty is starting to get a little dark around the edge. And you can see meat juices starting to come through.

[Dave]

It is July 1991. Various sports teams beat other sports team in their various arenas of sport, probably against each other in their respective sports. But you never know. Maybe this year is the year your million dollar idea beach love footcross finally takes off. But you don't care about all that because tonight you are finally meeting the soon to be adoptive parent of your troublesome snake, Laura Flynn Coyle. It's a double victory for you because you assume, for reasons, this person will also be the one. And then you hear the doorbell. This is it. The person on the other end of the locker note your new bow. You slowly open the door. Oh my God. Yes.

[Pam]

It's time to listen to sassy.

Sexy cliffhanger. Hi, everybody. Hello.

[Emin]

Hello.

[Pam]

You ready to dig into a new month and a new issue?

[Dave]

Yes.

[Pam]

Yes.

[Tara]

Happy Independence Day, 1991.

[Pam]

Yes, it is July. Thoughts on the spine line, Pam? Tell us about it.

[Tara]

Well, I just noticed it was minga minga ooga booga. And I was like, is this a thing I don't remember? Or is it that she's so hot that you're like, mango, mango ooga ooga.

[Pam]

Like, what is this?

What is this? I don't know either. I'm googling it. Oh, it's a song, is it?

[Tara]

Nope, nope.

[Pam]

There's an ooga booga boogie. It's like a kid's song.

[Emin]

Sure.

[Tara]

Maybe it's an inside joke.

[Pam]

Perhaps.

[Tara]

7:20. Sassy.

[Pam]

Go.

[Tara]

You know who you are lurking out there? You can use a pseudonym and one of these voices. Just tell us what minga minga ooga booga is.

[Pam]

I mean, I can say the person that you know, who worked at Sassy already has called in and we're going to hear from her in the next slumber party episode. So that'll be exciting.

[Tara]

Very exciting.

Should we get into it?

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Pam]

Yes.

[Emin]

All right.

[Tara]

Feature number one is called her sister Amy. Speaking of friends named Amy, her sister Amy. The author Here is Leslie. Leslie, 22, took the following photographs, then talked to our Kim about her sister Amy, who is 18 and neurodivergent, we might say these days. But that's not how we put it back then. Although, you know, all these comics in your town of Austin working real hard to put this word back in R for rotation. So in any way we could talk about this article without having to really discuss how she was put, how it was described. Because this is just a girl talking about how people talked about her sister in the phrase of the time. It was the style of the time.

[Pam]

It was.

[Tara]

Anyway, I remember this article so much, both for the photographs and then also for the cri du chat, or however you want to say it. How do you say it, Tara?

[Pam]

Cri du chat.

[Tara]

Tru du chat. This is French for cats cry. And this is a disorder that a birth defect that has these kids crying like a cat's meow. But what's interesting is cats meow to mimic babies crying. That's why they meow to get our attention. I guess. Cats don't like, meow to at each other out in the wild. They only meow to us.

[Dave]

Hmm.

[Tara]

Hmm.

[Pam]

Cat fact.

[Tara]

Anyway, the average six. Thank you. The average six year old with this behaves like a normal neurotypical two year old and has the IQ of 35. The doctor told Amy's parents to institutionalize her. But like 95% of all families with a disabled child, they didn't turn the page. And so then we get into kind of a Photojournalistic profile on on this girl's family centered around her sister's life.

[Pam]

The photos are well done. She. We learned that she took them over a 10 day period while she was taking a photography class. And so she just sort of gives it. It's like an as told to caption for each of them. Some of them, Amy's hanging out, she goes to a special school, they have dances, she gets crushes, we get pictures of that. But some of it is also Amy having a hard time, having a temper tantrum as it's captioned, crying, being upset. And so I think some of this is specific obviously to the disability that she has. But some of this I would imagine is probably common to siblings of disabled people in general where you sort of feel like, well, the family now has to rearrange itself around that person and their needs and stuff. And sometimes, you know, I feel like I'm lost in the shuffle a little bit. I felt empathetic for the, for everyone involved. But it seems like this girl has a good life. I hope she still does.

[Tara]

Yeah. And I thought it was nice to get that perspective of the sibling at home and saying, you know, she makes me a better person for the way that I have to see things from a different perspective. And also this, my sister's just like any other teenager and like her likes and dislikes and she likes boys and she goes to dances and I don't know why this one stuck with me so much. I think it did have to do with feeling like you were dropping in on a regular family.

[Pam]

Yeah, it feels intimate.

But it also isn't. Isn't like, you know, self pitying. It doesn't seem exploitative of them. It's just sort of like every family is different and this was what's different about ours. Yeah, nicely done. Other than the AR slur on the COVID.

[Tara]

All right, feature number two, Dump Fat can do this one's by Karen every. Even smart girls like us occasionally find ourselves dilly dallying in a relationship that's doing us more harm than good. I can't really explain it, but I can help you stop it. This is how, when, where and why. Like a step by step guide on how to do this. You know, prepare yourself. Maybe even like some tips like do it in person. Go somewhere that's not, you know, one of your places. Don't listen to the 16 reactive situation. You know, pleas that are going to come at you for don't do this. Stay strong and then take care of yourself and listen to sad Music and maybe go out and date again and then be proud of yourself because you did something hard.

[Pam]

The one piece of advice I didn't love was when they say, go to your. To the friend who always hated him and get their advice. Or make them buck you up and confirm that you're right to dump him because that feels like a trap for your friend. Like, tell me everything you hate about this guy. And then they're like, really? Are you sure? You're like, yes, yes. And then two weeks later you get back together and their friend's like, well, great.

[Tara]

Yeah, you've always hated him.

[Pam]

Yeah. Right. It feels like a trap for your friend, but.

[Tara]

So I couldn't invite you to my party because you hate. My boyfriend. Basically tried to break us up. If you remember, I told him about it.

[Pam]

This happens all the time in high school.

[Tara]

All the time, yes. Yeah. Because you keep going to school with each other. You can't just move on. They're right in front of you or sitting behind you.

[Pam]

You only know 30 people, so you're going to make your way through all of them and they with you. But otherwise. Yeah, I thought this was solid.

[Tara]

At the beginning, Karen is explaining a situation like maybe you're dating this boy called Trevor that says they. They totally get into each other. And for a while it's great. Fans and friends and family comment on how happy, well rested and yes, thin. Karen looks sure Trevor's busy opening her eyes to new experiences, like actually listening to Guatemalan street musicians and going to the library.

[Pam]

Karen. To read. Is this guy really so bad? Maybe she shouldn't break up with him.

[Tara]

Where are they going to listen to Guatemalan street musicians at the library?

[Pam]

They borrow a CD and they go to a listening station.

[Tara]

Yeah. I have a kid who's about to be 13, which seems impossible, but I thought, well, how's this advice these days? So I had my. I was like, I'm just gonna read you some of this to my kid. When it was like, ask yourself some questions. You know, is this something that we're just gonna work through?

[Pam]

Right.

[Tara]

Go, go talk to your friend. Are you treating him better than you're treating yourself? And number two is, are you putting up with behavior from him you wouldn't normally tolerate in a bank teller, let alone someone you supposedly love? And my kid said, what's a bank teller?

[Dave]

It was fair.

[Tara]

It is fair.

[Pam]

Yeah. I mean, I'm sure you have never taken your child to the bank.

[Tara]

No.

[Pam]

Because.

[Tara]

Yeah. That those kids just lay on the ground and go, when can I leave. But also yes, when is I was late to not going to the bank anymore and my mom still wants me to take her to the bank every week, so I don't know. She didn't know what a bank teller was. I just thought that was funny. Is that just when moms tell stories about their kids? You can cut it, Dave. It's not that cute.

[Pam]

Feature number three. Would you like some fries with that diploma? The author is Mike, unfortunately. And he is going to the last couple of days of a course at Hamburger University, which is an elite.

Educational facility run by McDonald's where they teach you everything you need to know about running a location, train you for management, you know, make sure you know how to troubleshoot the shake machine, et cetera, et cetera. Other than the Mikey Ness of it. Like when he refers to a college hangout essay. Wrath, Skeller Fucking Mike. I thought the rest of it was very interesting and fun.

[Tara]

I just was like, what if you know, you think you're going to clown college but then you end up at this clown's College in the 80s we would have made a movie about it.

[Pam]

He seems to have some strange ideas about. He talks about how cultish it is. Quote, it's the motivation half of the training that really freaked me out. Essential to that, a glaring non stop emphasis on teamwork. Like what do you think people learn when they take business courses? Like all of this is felt very standard to me and not alarming.

[Dave]

It's McDonald's, not McDonald.

[Pam]

That's right, he together strong. Similarly, I must say I admire the effort McDonald's makes to help its employees build what's usually thought of as a good for spare change but ultimately dead end job into a legitimate career. Wow, thanks Mike for affirming all these people who have decided to pursue this as a career. Anyway, it is still open. I found it online. The one in Shanghai has an acceptance rate of 1%, which is lower than Harvard's, which I thought was interesting. And while McDonald's is currently replacing counter staff with automatic ordering kiosks, more and more they claim they're not actually lowering the number of workers they need because they just get channeled into other parts of running shit. So I don't know, I don't love the kiosks, but I guess this is the world we live in.

[Dave]

This mentions the McJordan, which is a limited Chicago area only offering. And it's just a burger. There's nothing. It doesn't have like basketball bun or anything like that.

[Pam]

Oh no. Wow, that's really true. Like right now they have collabs with, they'll, they'll do special meals and special burgers that for a limited time still but they put a little more effort into them. This one is, it's literally like Dave said, it's a burger. It has barbecue sauce on it. That's the only, that's the only difference.

[Dave]

Between this, you know, Michael Jordan famous.

[Tara]

Barbecue advocate, famous barbecue. But when you're done, you, you, you crumple up the paper and then two points.

[Dave]

The only thing I like Dunkin more than basketballs is meat and barbecue sauce.

What do you think the Animal House version of rather, what do you think the Hamburger University Animal House is like?

[Pam]

Oh, I mean how would you rebel at Hamburger University? Yeah, you order in from Wendy's.

[Dave]

You know the scene where they climb up the ladder to sneak a peek at the new Coke designs, try to.

[Pam]

See the burgers before they're dressed.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Tara]

You smoke a Happy Meal and then you, then you have that scene where everyone's high playing with the toys.

[Pam]

I got it. They do patty raids. Yay.

[Tara]

There you go.

[Pam]

Everyone loves it. They're doing the wave Patty raids.

[Dave]

All right.

[Pam]

Feature number four by Christina is why you liked yourself better when you were 11. In the deck here is the big idea. Girls lose their self esteem when they're teenagers according to some Harvard professors. I was not so shocked to hear this. But when a 12 year old girl read their predictions that she would start to think less of herself and lose her interest in science by the time she hit 16 she was really mad. Mad enough to try to prove them wrong. So they found ALICIA OSTERN A 12 year old as mentioned in the deck. She lives in New York and she a study of her own with kids in her school to try to basically test the theory of the scholars study about girls and self esteem and their interests and stuff. Christina refers to them as theories. They are not that they are findings. She doesn't really help herself when she says that she is an example of what their study found saying today couldn't figure out my bank balance if my life depended on it. Well, I think you mean balance your checkbook, your bank balance. They just tell you what it is.

This is continues to be a topic of conversation whether it's still an issue. You know girls and boys and their self esteem depends on who you ask. Obviously Jordan Peterson will tell you there is a crisis with boys but that is bullshit apparently. We will link both of those perspectives in the show notes. Girls are still lagging behind Boys in the self esteem area and in stem.

[Dave]

Get confident, stupid.

[Pam]

Thanks, Dave.

[Tara]

I recommend a book for your book club called Ender the Wisdom and Power of Teenage Girls. Chelsea works with teen girls in particular and it's a bunch of chapters about the topics that they would like to talk about and how they feel about things instead of their findings of being told how they feel about things. Can I have my docs? Can I have my doc sound please for Alicia before I get into it.

So that's right, because Lish is now some sort of attorney and she's got a 3.7 million dollar property in Prospect Heights.

[Pam]

Way to go. Wow. It is two bedrooms. Because that's what it gets you in New York.

[Tara]

Oh no. Well, I don't know.

[Pam]

I'm just joking.

[Tara]

Oh, okay. Because it could be.

[Pam]

It could be.

[Tara]

It's a multi family property, so perhaps she's also in charge of some people's welfare and home security. So let's hope she's still doing.

[Pam]

Oh no things. We were happy for her and then we realized she's a landlord.

[Tara]

Wait, wait. Maybe it's. Maybe it's. Who knows? Maybe she flipped it. It's all one giant home. Oh no. Shun her.

[Emin]

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[Tara]

Done.

Our fiction this month is called what, do you want me to try it again? No, our.

[Pam]

Fiction. I'm just pre laughing about this corny.

[Tara]

Story. Go.

[Pam]

Ahead.

[Tara]

Fiction. Yeah, it's called Serenade. It's by Seth Kaufman. I feel like you can always tell when the fiction is not written by a young woman in this magazine. Like you can tell this is a Daniel Paladino, not Amy Sherman Paladino written episode way where you're like this one's got weird edges. And why are we talking about this part for a.

[Pam]

While?

[Tara]

Yes. And that is what Seth is doing here when he is awkwardly interested in the forced pairing. Lifelong friend of her.

[Pam]

Parents. Friends.

[Tara]

Friends. And now two of them are old enough to be like do you want to like go upstairs for a while and get away from all these people? And even the parents are like show her your etchings. Like everybody just wants these kids to bone before they go to college. And that is what the story is.

[Pam]

About. Yes. Including the kids. So that's handy. Seems like they are also interested.

[Tara]

That'S what she gave.

[Pam]

Them.

They go to his room. There's a scene where she picks up his guitar and asks the male narrator to play her something, which is how you know if you didn't look at the byline. This was written by a dude. Also, that then the whole next whole paragraph is about how hard the piece is that he's trying to play for her. No one.

[Tara]

Cares. But he has to tell both us and her. Like, he's not done just telling her. This is a difficult part that he's like, it's actually really difficult if you. It's actually way more difficult than I'm even telling her. But I'm not going to tell.

[Pam]

Her. It's.

[Tara]

Difficult. Also, I didn't even get to the difficult part when I stopped playing. So, like, there was so much more to show her. It's. So this is what you guys think when you want Lloyd Dobler, right? Yeah. No, no. And all I. I just remember when I dated the guy who was working on a 12 string guitar. And these stories are longer and they're more about how complicated it is because there's 12 strings. And then you have to hear about the history of the 12 string guitar more than. More than you would want. Which is what? Any words at.

[Pam]

All.

Anyway, I found a Seth Kaufman who is still an author. I don't know if it's the same one. He's a ghostwriter mostly now. But I do know the Seth Kaufman I found did not build a website that would automatically adjust to the user's browser window size. It is. It breaks if your window is too.

[Dave]

Narrow. What an insight into the mind of this.

[Pam]

Man. I'm just saying it's important to.

[Tara]

Know. Well, here at the end. A boy has to think about what happened at the end of the story and stare into the fireplace because he's in charge. He's in charge of building the fire, you guys. Because he's a boy. Anyway, like, one of his last things is, these are dangerous important.

[Pam]

Thoughts. I was like, oh, my.

[Tara]

God. And then he goes to bed with the embers still.

[Pam]

Burning. Don't do that. No, it's not safe.

Fire fact.

Let me hear your body talk. People who are. Whose friends are supportive and nice while they're trying to stop smoking as opposed to critical. And COP like have a better chance of quitting. COP like just really made me laugh. I think this is good advice for any behavior you're trying to change. Hey, if your friend's trying to improve themselves, don't be a thanks.

[Dave]

Sassy. You should improve yourself, Tara. Be great. I think we'd all benefit from it. How's.

[Tara]

That? Yeah, I support anything you want to do that improves.

[Dave]

You. Yeah, I support your efforts to be a better.

[Tara]

Person. So I don't know how it could be possible. Like, what level is higher than this? That's what it sounds like.

[Pam]

Dave.

[Tara]

Thanks. I don't know how you could possibly improve, but if that's something you want to do, I support.

[Dave]

You. I'll time.

[Tara]

You.

[Pam]

Wait.

How angry do you get? Well, in this moment, do you pitch fits of rage for no real reason a couple of times a week? Are the episodes accompanied by a wet brow, flushed face and short breath? Well, don't assume you're just an exceptionally short fused person. You could be depressed or have a panic disorder, both of which might be the result of a chemical imbalance treatable with antidepressants. If you think this might be you, make a trip to your doctor who can refer you to a psychiatrist or possibly tell you you're right to be mad. You might even not be mad enough. Actually, this is not a pathology, it's just life.

[Tara]

Sorry. But, you know, it does help to just take a couple antidepressants while you're that mad. Because, you know, as one said to me, you're right, this is all normal feelings. But do you have to feel this way? Like this hard? We can help with it just feeling a little less hard while it's also.

[Dave]

Hard. Yikes. That was dirty.

[Tara]

Sounding.

[Dave]

Whoa. It was. It went on for a while without any qualifiers.

That's what she said, is what she said. Yeah. Yes.

From the we knew that department. According to a study at the University of Pennsylvania, men's brains deteriorate faster than women's as they age. Can confirm.

Watching.

[Tara]

It. I'll time you.

[Dave]

Dave. It's going to take a.

[Pam]

While.

Unhealthy states. We found out the least healthy states of the union to live in, just in case you were wondering. According to a panel of health professionals who judged factors like the prevalence of smoking, motor vehicle deaths and violent crime, as well as disability, disease and access to health care. New Mexico and Louisiana tied for fourth place. Nevada and Mississippi tied for third, and West Virginia came in second. The least healthy state is Alaska. That seems insane. I mean, I guess probably people die in accidents more there, I suppose. But I looked up what those stats are today, and currently the five unhealthiest states, not including violent crime, are in ascending order. Kentucky, West Virginia, Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi. Louisiana, Mississippi. He's still holding it. Down. The healthiest are New Hampshire, Vermont, Washington, Massachusetts and.

[Tara]

Hawaii. I just feel like what you said these are per capita, but it just seems like that it's because there's fewer people. So the stats are like, way out of proportion. Is that not how math works? Am I.

[Pam]

Wrong?

[Dave]

No. Introduce you to the little thing called division after the.

[Pam]

Show. Yeah, I think they probably calculate them by per.

[Dave]

Capita. And that's not a.

[Tara]

Hat.

You can cut all that. I'll tell another story about my kid. Put it right in.

[Dave]

There. The average person generates one to three pints of gas a day. I have not read something as disgusting as.

Measuring gas by the pint. Not gas. Farts by the pint. Like it's a product. Lies next to the ripple milk that Pam buys. It's called rip. Rip. All rip.

Apostrophe in there.

[Tara]

Somewhere. Yeah. So it's like, Mike, how did you get the funds to make this short film? Well, I let them strap a Ziploc bag to my asshole for a day. And then they came and sort of unhooked it to measure my farts. And it was hard because that was a non pooping day. I was just not allowed to poop. It was pure gas. And it was about three.

[Dave]

Pints.

Pints. But it also feels like it's something you're going to order at the pub down the street in the village you.

[Pam]

Live. Yeah. Dave, do you think you're higher or lower than the average.

[Dave]

Person?

I am much.

[Tara]

Higher.

[Dave]

Yeah. Much higher. I could blow three pints over tea this.

[Pam]

Week. We've been eating vegetarian tacos, and that also includes spicy guacamole. There's a lot of onions, a lot of peppers. It's. It's an intense time in our.

[Dave]

Lives. It's a 20.

[Pam]

Binder. It.

[Tara]

Is.

Well, speaking of, there's some tips here for how vegetables breathe, I guess around all the gas fumes.

[Pam]

Like. That's.

[Dave]

Right. I think they breathe like.

[Tara]

This.

Always store fresh mushrooms in paper, not plastic bags. They need a flow of air to keep from going bad. And plastic stops that groovy dynamic from happening. What teen girl is asking, how do I store my mushrooms? Yeah, what is this one at the.

[Pam]

Bottom? Who is.

[Dave]

It? How do I store my.

[Pam]

Mushroom?

[Tara]

Now.

It'S a metaphor among us. Breathing, suffocating in my fridge of dreams.

I want to trip.

Yeah. Well, I guess they were just on a roll with the. They learned something about broccoli and then they were like, you know what? Here's a mushroom fun fact to close out this.

[Pam]

PA.

[Tara]

Camp. What is the name of this.

[Pam]

One?

[Tara]

What?

[Dave]

What? Sorry, what did you say when? I said.

[Tara]

What? What? Recently, I've been seeing. What? Recently, I've been seeing warnings about noise causing deafness. I'm forever listening to music and now I'm afraid I'm hurting my ears without knowing it. What number on my volume knob is safe to listen to? Signed, fearing the loss of.

[Dave]

Hearing. Number on my. What if it just said volume.

[Tara]

Knob just said four and that there was no letter after that. No, no, no answer after that. They're like, hey, if the music's on, you have to shout. It's probably too loud. And if your ears hurt or ring or you're slightly deaf for a few hours afterward, probably too loud. And exposure to blasting music permanently destroys the nerve endings in your inner ear. So wear spongy earplugs to concerts and clubs, don't sit next to the speakers, and don't use a Walkman while exercising.

[Pam]

Crazy. Good luck with that.

[Tara]

One.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Pam]

What?

What now? We. When we were having the sewer work done on our house, about three pints a day, they started very.

[Tara]

Early. They were like, whoa. I. We have never had this problem before, but it's.

[Pam]

Not. It's clogged with air and we're nervous, so we're gonna.

[Tara]

Leave. You guys flip this.

[Pam]

Switch. We can see it. It's green. Anyway, we got. I googled and found out the best drugstore, like disposable ones are heroes. H E A R O. And.

They really do.

[Tara]

Work. I'm what? I'm your.

[Pam]

What?

[Tara]

Yes. Don't under write it.

[Pam]

Down.

Help for him.

A girl came on to me. I'm a 17 year old guy and I just went on my first date. It was with a girl I thought was really nice. We had a great time, but when I started to get out of the car to walk her to her door, she pulled me back in and started coming on to me like a rabbit in heat. I got so scared I just froze. Is something wrong with me? Signed, worried. This is exactly what happens in the series premiere of Beverly Hills 90210. A girl comes onto Brandon in her hot tub and he's like, hey, why am I the one who's saying we should slow things down? I'm acting like the girl. Tee hee hee. Anyway, that's part of it. The other part is in the answer. Karen writes, apart from that rabbit in heat reference, you sound fine to me. In fact, when given adequate doses of truth serum spelled like syrup but with an M, most people admit their first dates involved a certain amount of freezing.

You know, now we know what serum, how to spell serum, because it's.

[Dave]

On everyone's genuine maple.

[Pam]

Serum.

Next, we'll even fix your car. I'm really scared. My 1976 Alpha Romeo won't start after checking the fuel pump. Okay. The ignition, fine. The spark plugs, shiny but wet. And the.

[Tara]

Timing. I'll.

[Pam]

Say. I realized I just wanted to write into a magazine and brag that I have a 1976 Alpha Romeo. Bye. Signed.

[Tara]

ER. So this is a test. You really want help for him? Here's what I need help.

[Pam]

With. Ladies. Totally. We're all very impressed, Aaron, but how is your guitar.

[Tara]

Playing? Well, it's actually pretty complicated.

But like a boss, Karen answers with exactly what to do with his Alfa Romero, other than stick it right up his.

[Pam]

Butt.

[Tara]

Nice. That's where the gas comes in. It's Alfa Romeo, pure pints of gas.

All right. This month's what he said is, what's the most horrid thing you ever did to your sister? We'll pause here for some Juliana Hatfield. My sister.

It's a good.

[Pam]

Song. It.

[Tara]

Is. Okay. Tevin, also known as Tevin Campbell here, says, I like.

[Pam]

Soup. I like soup.

[Tara]

Yes. He says his sister Marche is five years bigger, stronger and older, so he's pretty careful about it. But he hits her with a notebook, and he still loves her. Aw, I hit you, but I love you. Hey, kids, let's learn. Let's learn what it's.

[Pam]

Like. And then the rest of the guys are all brothers of sassy staffers telling their true stories of what they.

[Tara]

Did.

I just read what Dave said about Andy, and he's.

[Dave]

Right.

What does it say? Andy is three serial.

[Sponsor Voice (RealReal)]

Killers.

[Dave]

Somehow. Yeah, well, that photo's not doing anything scary.

[Pam]

Looking. Yeah, no, but he's.

[Tara]

Got. He's wearing the neck of a different serial killer. That's one serial killer. Just the.

[Pam]

Neck. Well, this is like the Ted Bundy uniform, right? He's got a button down under, like a crew neck pullover sweater, which is totally deliberate. Stranger.

[Dave]

Coated. He looks like the kind of guy that sold software in plastic baggies in 1981. By day and then by night. He ate people. Andy. We miss.

[Tara]

Him.

[Pam]

Yeah. Then there's.

[Dave]

Dan. Then there's Dan. Dan. Oh, this is Dan. Hi, Dan. Dan is the love child. If you see the photo of Nathan Fillion and Rob.

[Pam]

Snyder.

[Dave]

Correct. Saturday Night Live and being kooky, torching my.

[Pam]

Sister. The torture roo breaking Torronu is the best I could come up with.

[Tara]

Torture. Rono's pretty.

[Pam]

Good. It's not. It's.

[Dave]

Bad. They got good queso.

[Tara]

There. Oh, I see what Tara did. Tara looked at the wrong Andy because Tara was like, oh, a pullover over a pull. No, Tara, Andy number one. The serial.

[Pam]

Killer. There are two Andes, and they both look like serial.

[Dave]

Killers. Well, the second Andy is. You know, he only kills people in English.

[Tara]

Marriage. He's a preppy murderer. Yeah, this first Andy's still active today, if you know what I'm saying. Check the basement. The third sibling's name is Hill. And so you're like, why? Why is he named Hill? And you're like, oh, because Jane's. Jane's brother Hill. Do you think Hill is short for.

[Pam]

Something? Hillock.

Hilmelton. Thank.

[Tara]

You. Not throwing away his.

[Dave]

Shart.

Hello.

That's Ashley's middle name. First name is Hamburger.

His name is Hamburger.

[Tara]

Hill. Hamburger Hill. He went to Mechu.

You have to. Oh, my God.

Oh, boy.

For those who don't know, we're doing all three episodes this morning, and my husband was like, how do you think Dave's gonna be at the end of that? I was like, it's more the beginning.

At the end, he'll be like, who cares? Wrapping it up at the beginning. Take a long walk off a short hill. Okay.

[Pam]

Okay.

On the road.

Gone to Cleveland, Ohio. Ever heard of.

[Dave]

It?

That's me backing.

[Pam]

Up.

[Dave]

Yep. Yeah.

[Pam]

Cleveland. They tell us about the Tower City Center. People were really psyched when it opened a year ago. It showed potential for Cleveland. We're told there's an atrium with old paintings on the ceiling. I don't know where that's. That's where you hang old.

[Dave]

Paintings. But anyway, let's ask Lionel Ritchie. Lionel Ritchie. What do you think about.

[Pam]

This? That is still there. They say they swim in Lake Erie all the time. Not a good idea. I don't think you should do.

[Dave]

That. It was just a few flipper.

[Pam]

Babies. I'll put a link in the show.

Yep, the Cuyahoga river is there, as immortalized in the REM Song. They talk about how excited they are for the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Their estimates for when it would be open are slightly off. They think it's going to be completed in late 93. That was, in fact, when groundbreaking took place. It opened in 1995. They also try to take credit for Superman co creator Joe Shuster because he lived in Cleveland at the time, but he was Canadian. We claim him was in a Canadian heritage minute and everything. And if those aren't true. Nothing is. There's some other stuff. Hookah bar. Now that was a coffee shop. Then there's a museum of art. James Garfield was from there. Can strongly endorse Death by Lightning, the Netflix four part scripted series about his attempted assassination and eventual just death. But I'm also going to link in the show notes to the hastily made Cleveland tourism video, which is from the 2000s and is still so funny. This train is taking jobs out of Cleveland. And also Liz Lemon in Cleveland from the first season of 30 Rock where I think it's probably inspired by that video, but I can't say for sure. Both very funny. Check them out in the show.

[Dave]

Notes. Check them out in the show.

[Pam]

Notes. Check them out.

[Tara]

It. Oh, you're right. Sorry. No, no, I was about to. This is Pam Plus I was moving on. I just, I just saw I had the first thing to say and.

[Dave]

I forgot I'm not Cleveland of the plenty of discussion about this topic because Pam's got more on Cleveland now. There we.

[Pam]

Go.

It happened to me. I got pregnant when I was 18 years old. Oops. Now I'm working full time and raising my child by myself and I'm.

[Dave]

Happy. Don't you do.

[Pam]

That. Says Jenny, age.

[Tara]

20. I eat for.

[Pam]

Two. Walk, walk.

[Dave]

Two. Now sign up for two cell phone.

[Pam]

Plans. Dave also walks for two. And he's making our tacos.

Me and.

[Dave]

Dave. Do you say walk for.

[Pam]

Toot? No, I said walk for toot. But you also walk for.

[Tara]

Toot. That's right. All right, listen. So Jenny, Jenny gets pregnant because she was like, I didn't even think about birth control. It's just so busy. It's not a great being a rabbit in.

[Pam]

Heat.

[Dave]

Oops. And oh, the hahaha oops lady died.

[Pam]

Recently. Oh yeah, she.

[Dave]

Did.

That's what she.

[Pam]

Said. We miss.

[Tara]

Her. Danny decides to keep this.

[Dave]

Baby. The entire time Sammy Kirkland's last breath was.

[Pam]

Suspensing.

Anyway, Pam, you were saying if.

[Tara]

One can be an emoji while reading an article, I was the cringe face emoji, teeth out the whole time. Because she's just like, I decided to keep the baby. I don't know why this high school kid who impregnated me doesn't seem all that interested in helping me raise this child. Yeah, I didn't even tell him for a while because like he had finals, right? And then she's just like, oh.

[Pam]

You forgot the part where she lives in Boston and he lives in Seattle. And she's like, why is he not More involved, like, put it together, lady. I don't know what to tell.

[Tara]

You. Yeah, so yeah, when she went home for Thanksgiving, she sort of hinted to her sister that she thought she might be pregnant. That's like September, October, November. She's like three months.

[Pam]

Pregnant.

[Tara]

Yeah. At this.

[Pam]

Point.

[Tara]

Yes. Anyway, then she hinted to her mother and her mother was like, should we go to a gynecologist? And then. Yes. So. So yes, the doctor confirmed it and she was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna raise this baby. Like, there's no reason for her to say.

[Pam]

It.

[Tara]

No. She's like, I'm just gonna do it. And now I'm doing it and it's hard. And you know, she explains like getting on wic, Snap, all of these things. And I was like, this is really great and it's helpful, but also it's so hard. And I have a 17 month old now and she's at the babysitters, which means, you know, she's got a full time job and isn't doing exactly what she thought motherhood would be, but apparently wouldn't change a.

[Pam]

Thing.

[Tara]

No. Which.

[Pam]

Is. I don't know about that. Oh my God, Dave. I mean, I guess you have to say that if you're raising the child because otherwise they might read this later and be like, oh, she wished she never had.

[Tara]

Me. I.

[Pam]

Guess. But there's some stupidity along the way that you sort of skipped over. And she's. She, as you, as you pointed out in our doc, like, okay, if you were 18 when you got pregnant and he was 16, this is not so much.

[Tara]

Legal.

[Pam]

Yeah. Which also might be why she sort of allied like, you know, trying to get him on the hook for any kind of contribution or talking to his parents or working something out. Because I think their answer would probably be, well, we'll just call the cops. So. But yeah, she also says, I didn't want to ask him for help. I wanted him to genuinely offer it. Offer what? He's 16, he's in the 10th grade.

[Tara]

Okay. He lives on the other side of the.

[Pam]

World. He.

[Tara]

Lives. What is he gonna be able to.

[Pam]

Do? Three time zones away from you, You. He is not going to be part of this child's life. Like, I'm sorry you do this going in, but she also, when she gets to, you know, the child was born, I signed up for all the assistance that I'm entitled to and, you know, have to pay for this and that and the other, plus babysitting, the apartment, car payments, gas, food, diapers, not Mentioned. And then the next paragraph is like. And now she's 17 months old. And we figured it all out. Like, how you're obviously getting help from your parents. Why don't you include this? Or something like that? Like, you can't. You cannot be this. You cannot be 20, working full time and paying for childcare. Like, the math does not add up. Anyway, she says, I guess my story seems to glorify teenage motherhood. That's not my intention. Okay. Juno.

It's not great. I don't love it, but I believe it's.

[Dave]

Real. To be laughing through it. Help. At.

[Pam]

All. Yeah, it was.

[Dave]

Great. I forgot why I was trying to.

[Tara]

Laugh. It's really good. I mean, if it was propaganda, it was propaganda from a church that was like, it's not the boy's fault. He's just 15. What could he do, right? And I don't regret things, even though it's hard. But what I definitely never thought about for a second was not having this baby. Because that really is not in here.

[Pam]

No. But not even placing it for adoption, which is something else people do when they're teenagers. Even on Teen mom, the.

[Tara]

Show. Right. The bad part about our relationship, not that he was 15 while she was.

[Pam]

17.

[Tara]

Yeah. The bad part about our relationship was that we were eventually having sex and we never thought about birth control. Now, I'm not a stupid person. It just never crossed my mind. I guess I thought I'd never get.

[Pam]

Pregnant. And I didn't. At least not that year. See, I can tell you from watching sixteen and Pregnant that a lot of times, and I'm sure I've said this on this podcast before, but if they have sex once and don't get pregnant because sex education is so terrible in this country, they. They decide I must be sterile, and then they just keep having sex because if it didn't happen the first time, it's probably never gonna.

[Dave]

Happen. Did you say, I must be.

[Tara]

Daryl? No.

[Pam]

No.

Stop.

[Dave]

It. I can't have babies. I'm Daryl. I mean, still checks out.

[Tara]

Right?

It's called the Strawberry Defense.

Darth, you wrote stuff you wrote. Lauren Roth of Great Falls, Virginia, says the trouble with reading labels is you realize you're painting your nails and eating ice cream made with the same Yellow five.

[Pam]

Coloring. Oh.

[Dave]

Damning.

[Tara]

Wait. Hit it.

[Dave]

Dave. The same thing. Yuck.

Hit it. What? What am I hitting?

[Tara]

Oh.

Dr. Lauren is a forensic.

[Pam]

Psychologist. Over this.

[Dave]

One. It's too loud and important. All right, go.

[Tara]

Ahead. Dr. Lauren is a forensic psychologist and was a professor at ucsf. Still pointing out the hard questions put together similarities and what ifs and how comes. Way to go, Dr. Roth. Christi Vernon of Independence, Missouri lets us know that dreams are just the thoughts in your head. You didn't have time to think during the day, which is also like if I say it in Luann Platter's voice, dreams are dreams. It also works. Yeah, it's a real. It's a real fluffy thought. Kristi Vernon. It would appear that Christy continued to feel the bright side of things, or at least optimistic enough.

[Pam]

Because. Hit.

[Dave]

Dave. Oh.

[Tara]

Okay.

She's now a senior living consultant working where she eventually moved her parents. I think. I think that's her keeping tabs on Brand. Yeah, keeping.

[Dave]

Tabs. You'll never have fun again.

Not while I'm.

[Pam]

Here. My own.

[Dave]

Thoughts. My name's.

[Pam]

Christie.

My known thoughts are plotting, plotting against me. Thoughts of death descend drowsily as I sleep. Sleep once, dreamless now dreams are all you are. My heavy eyelids whisper of murder with fairy dust, writes Shanda Freenor of Arden, Nevada. And then in parentheses. Shanda was killed in a car wreck on March 22nd. This poem was found among her belongings in an envelope addressed to stuff you wrote. Her uncle asked us to publish it in her memory. Did he or did someone tell their friend, check this out. I'm going to definitely get in sassy this month and just wrote that with her wrong hand and sent it in. I'm just saying it's.

[Tara]

Possible.

Dark, dark, dark, dark, dark.

Natalia.

[Dave]

Beckwith. Wait, no, no. Pam report. Yeah, she's still dead. She's buried in the.

[Tara]

Cemetery. It occurs to me that I skipped a couple because this is one where I think I went and had dinner and came back and didn't notice that I had forgotten to dox everyone.

[Dave]

Else. I guess you just have different.

[Tara]

Priorities. But I didn't have to because Natalia Beckwourth of Warren, Maine is doing it for me. She writes, I find it ironic that the star of the most violent film I've ever seen is the son in law of the first director of the Peace.

[Dave]

Corps. Oof.

[Tara]

Brutal.

[Pam]

Brutal.

[Tara]

Af. You wouldn't believe what he goes on to do next. Ironically, Julia Donnelly of Roslindale, Massachusetts, writes. Massachusetts? Yes. Sometimes I get confused. Writes. It's a poem called Gravity. There was an invitation on the kitchen table this morning from Venus with a number attached for regrets only. So naturally I called collect. I told them I was happy here. I explained that I loved you, that I needed you and felt secure. The stars may have been calling too. They offered Me? A scholarship. I can't say I wasn't tempted. Even the sun has my address from some mailing list. I guess her seduction hasn't worked so far. I promise. But she's begun to talk blackmail. She says she has some pictures. Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with what I know. I've become accustomed to the climate here. I told him I could not leave. No, I would not leave. I was firm, but never impolite. I thought I handled it pretty well, actually. Don't you, Julie? I love it. Julie. I love it. Gravity always.

[Pam]

Wins. Your name is too common for us to be able to find you for.

[Tara]

Now. And finally, we have Rachel Globinski. Who writes. Does he? It's a poem. I guess it's a poem. Does he like.

[Pam]

You?

[Tara]

Maybe. Does he write you letters or give you candy or flirt with.

[Pam]

You?

[Tara]

Yes. Then he likes you. What? What does it mean when he wants to wear your swatch? I'm not sure either. It means he likes you. What are you talking.

[Pam]

About?

[Tara]

Rachel? He wants to wear your swatches. Like level.

[Pam]

Nine. Do you know how hard it.

[Tara]

Is to make a guy want to wear your pink paisley.

[Pam]

Swatch? He.

[Dave]

Is. I don't want to date anybody. But I'm cheap and always late. What about that.

[Tara]

Guy? I hear myself. Yeah. Or poor. Yeah. Like my parents won't buy me a swatch. Can I wear yours? Also, they would never buy me a pink swatch. Can I wear yours? Yeah. Maybe he doesn't like you. Maybe he likes swatches. Rachel Glebensky is currently a health promotion planner. Not sure what that job is, but employment is great these days. To go.

[Pam]

Rach.

Next time we'll be talking about the pop culture topics of the July.

[Dave]

What? I just was repeating you like a really Frankenstein hype man. Go.

[Pam]

Ahead. Do it. Next time we'll be talking about the pop culture topics of the July 1991 issue. A new guy tries his luck at being one to watch. Dave will be the judge of that. And in places of Listen up and watch it. We get a whole insert of the pop culture we should be enjoying on our summer vacation. Get ready to get into.

[Dave]

It. You got $5 to support the Pam has a.

[Tara]

Pam. It doesn't even. I mean, the government is quote unquote, reopened. But you may have had some feelings about people not being fed because they're people. So go tonokid hungry.org and you can throw them some.

[Dave]

Support. You can support this podcast for just $5 a month. Keeps the lights on here and Then you also got that PDF scan that Tara goes down into the dungeon to scan page by page. She gets older, older every time she scans a magazine. But it can be yours she does. Plus access to the Discord ad free episodes that drop as soon as we finish recording.

[Pam]

Them. Or.

[Dave]

Etc. Yeah, etc. Record, etc and go to Patreon to do that. And by Patreon I mean listen to sassy.com.

[Tara]

Club. How many pints do you fart? 720sassy. Go. You know Dave wants to know. Dave can't wait to hear the.

[Dave]

Latest. I got the chart all ready for.

[Tara]

Data.

If you leave us a voicemail about anything else, we'll probably play it on a future episode. You can find more information about us and visual aids and all the stuff I always feel like Dave just said this. But go to listontosassy.com and speaking of that website, we're taking the July 1991 quiz eventually. But you can take it.

[Pam]

Now. Find.

[Tara]

Out. Hey, are you an annoyance?

[Dave]

720Sassy.

[Tara]

Go. Let us know how annoying you can.

[Pam]

Be.

This is how annoying I am. Oh no, it already has a.

[Tara]

Button.

Oh no. Well, you can hear more of that on a future episode. Thank you so much for listening.

[Pam]

And we'll see you next time. Next time in five minutes in our timeline. Enjoy. Gonna go.

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