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Eric
Hello, friend. It's Eric. Welcome back to Listen to Sleep. Well, Tonight, I have something a little different for you. As you may have heard, I wrote a book. It took a lifetime to live what
I wrote about, and about three years
to bring it into the world.
It came out a few weeks ago, and it's called Awaken youn Myth.
Tonight, I want to read you something from it.
An adapted version of the introduction and
the first section, just enough to give you a feel for what it is and where it goes.
I'm excited to share it with you because I wrote the book as an
invitation to explore what it means to live our lives like a hero's journey,
to use that ancient map for discovering
our own personal myth, the story we
tell ourselves about who we are, where
we've come from, and what we're capable of.
The book explores how to recognize the
calls to adventure in our own lives, how to cultivate the clarity and resilience
to navigate challenges with grace, how to
see through our limiting beliefs and step into something more authentic. We'll discover healing as a return to wholeness and the power of storytelling.
Because while our stories may at times feel like they define us, it is
we who who ultimately define them.
And you'll get to hear a little bit of my own story tonight. It starts with a bus ride I
took when I was 18 years old
and a woman who changed the way
I understood my life.
If any of this lands for you,
the full book is available wherever books are sold. There's a beautifully illustrated hardcover from Chronicle
Books, an ebook, and an audiobook I narrated myself.
You can find links in the show Notes. Let's take a deep breath in and out. Just letting go of the day. Feeling the weight of gravity pulling you deep down into the mattress. Another deep breath in and out. Nothing to do, nowhere to go, no one to be. This is your time. Quiet time. One more deep breath in and out. If you get tired while I'm reading to you, even though it's my book, that's okay. Just let yourself drift off. Awaken your myth.
When I was 18 years old, I
took a 24 hour bus ride from from Corvallis, Oregon to Hollywood to meet my great aunt Kim Stanley. She was literally the stuff of legend in my family, the rebel who had
studied theater in college and then left
home in New Mexico and traveled to New York to become a Broadway actress in the 1950s.
It was 1984, the year after she
received her second Academy Award nomination for her role as Frances Farmer's mother in the film Francis.
I was a confused freshman who had
fallen in with the theater crowd at a rural state university known for its engineering and agricultural programs.
I idolized her and desperately wanted her
to tell me what I should do with my life.
After the bus arrived in Los Angeles, I made my way up into the
Hollywood Hills on foot, looking for her bungalow.
She greeted me warmly, swanning about the house in a flowing caftan. After offering me a Grilled cheese sandwich and a cold iced tea.
We retired to her sunroom.
She lounged on a daybed with movie scripts piled high on the table next to her. She shared stories from her difficult and enchanting life. As I sat across from her in a wooden chair, she laughed while reminiscing that even though she was once considered the greatest actress of her generation, she
had lost the leading role in the
film adaptation of Bus Stop to Marilyn Monroe after playing it to much critical acclaim on Broadway. She told me about her friendships with Tennessee Williams and Marlon Brando and shared her personal descent into addiction and the
long road to sobriety.
Kim needed the next afternoon to read
a few of those scripts, so I
went to a movie and then took
a run along Hollywood Boulevard.
When I returned later that evening, I told her I had decided I was going to major in theater and that after college I wanted to move to LA and become an actor. She told me to take acting seriously and respect it as both an art and a craft. She said actors are storytellers who have a responsibility to be true to the characters they play, fully inhabiting that person's life to authentically tell their story. That advice stuck with me, and I've been a storyteller ever since. Four years later, after transferring to a liberal arts school with a better theater program and graduating at the top of my class, I called her to ask if I could come and audition for her acting workshop in la. My plan was to move there, join the classes that she was teaching to actors like Sean Penn and Matthew Modine, and hopefully start my professional acting career. Well, she took a deep breath and said, you can come and audition. I can't guarantee you'll get in, but Eric, I also have to tell you that I don't think it's a good idea. I've watched this industry destroy so many
people who thought it was going to save them. This was not what I wanted to
hear, and I was barely listening when
she said, go and live your life
like a hero's journey.
Find out who you really are and
let the knowledge you gain from your
experiences guide your life and your work. If you still want to be an actor, then you'll know it's the right choice and you won't look to your work to know who you are.
I thanked her and told her I'd
be in LA in a couple of weeks to audition and got off the phone. I didn't have any idea what she was talking about. A hero's journey? Wasn't that a life of adventure like a pirate. The only adventure I wanted at 22 was to move to LA and become an actor.
That was what I had just spent
four years studying for.
So I made my plans to move
and the weekend before I was to
leave, my friend Jeff invited me on
a weekend trip to San Francisco.
I had just come out of the closet the year before and a trip to the gayest place on earth seemed like a fun idea.
That weekend I went to my first country western gay bar, the Rawhide too. And when I walked in the door and saw the man behind the bar in a cowboy hat, my head fell on Jeff's shoulder and the words just tumbled out, I'm in love. So after we got back home, I
gave up all my plans to move
to la, flipped a coin and moved
to San Francisco instead, hoping that somehow
the bartender would be a part of my future. I didn't know that I would never
see my Aunt Kim again, but when I called to give her the news, she told me she was happy that
I was off on my hero's journey after all.
Over the next three decades, I began to understand the profound wisdom of her words as I navigated the twists and turns of my own path from acting
professionally to a life at sea, from
the bright lights of LA and San
Francisco to an off grid yurt in the woods.
As I would come to discover, Living your life like a hero's journey allows you to explore, understand, and ultimately redefine your own personal myth by answering the question that lies at the heart of every hero's journey.
Who am I?
This question dogged me for much of my adult life until I decided to become a mindfulness teacher so that I could get better at guiding meditations for
my podcast, Listen to Sleep.
It turned out that I had also accidentally found a key to unlocking one of the missing parts of my hero's journey, one that would allow me to finally find the answers I had been seeking. As my mindfulness practice deepened, I began to see the striking parallels between the principles of mindfulness and the stages of the hero's journey. Both were ultimately about cultivating the awareness, courage, and resilience needed to navigate life's challenges and uncovering our true potential. As they deepened my understanding of who I am, they were also showing me how to naturally express that understanding. The hero's journey had been my map,
always keeping me focused on moving toward the unknown.
Mindfulness gave me a compass that allowed me to turn that journey inward and begin to reveal my shadow, the rejected
and unknown parts of myself.
It was a realization that sparked the creation of the myth's mind Reset, a framework I designed to integrate mindfulness into the hero's journey. Myths is an acronym for Mindfulness, Yielding, Transformation, Healing, and Storytelling. Together, these five pillars form a path through the classic stages of the hero's journey. Mindfulness allows us to be fully present in our own lives, to actually notice the calls to adventure instead of sleeping through them. Yielding teaches us to meet life's challenges with gentleness and curiosity rather than resistance.
Transformation invites us to let the unknown burn away everything that isn't authentically who we are. Healing gives us tools to release the old wounds and patterns that have kept us small. And storytelling allows us to rewrite our personal myth, to craft a new narrative
that reflects who we have actually become,
rather than who we were told we were. This is what the book is about. Not self improvement, not optimization, but a return to yourself, to your own story, to the life that was always waiting for you. We are all storytellers, weaving tales of our lives moment by moment. These stories form our personal myth, the narrative we tell ourselves about who we are, where we've come from, and what we're capable of. But too often, we become trapped in these stories, mistaking them for immutable truths rather than the fluid, evolving narratives they truly are. When I first started exploring the concept of personal myth, I saw it as
something fixed and unchangeable. It was the sum of my experiences, fears, and desires.
It was me. But as I delved deeper into mindfulness
and the hero's journey, I began to see that my personal myth was more like an iceberg. The story I could articulate was just the tip that I could see with
vast depths lurking beneath the surface in my subconscious. Our personal myths are woven from the
many threads of our experiences, beliefs, values, and conditioning.
They include what we love, what we
fear, and how we see ourselves.
Some parts are readily apparent to us,
while others operate in the shadows, influencing our thoughts and behaviors in ways we
may not even realize. From Frodo's journey to Mordor in the Lord of the Rings to Neo's decision
to take the red pill in the
Matrix, we are drawn in by the story of a person who leaves the familiar for the unknown on a quest to learn who they truly are. I believe this is because, deep inside, most of us want the same thing for ourselves. Even the stories of Christ and Buddha follow this narrative.
And we seem to instinctively know that
this journey is is part of our human evolution as well.
The hero's journey is a gift from
the shamans and storytellers of prehistory. A map that we can use to find our own path to a deep, non conceptual knowing of who we truly are.
While it has ancient roots, it was
popularized in modern times by mythologist Joseph Campbell. By analyzing the folk tales and religious stories of many different cultures, Campbell identified common elements and stages that appeared repeatedly in heroic stories around the world. In his 1949 book, the Hero With
a Thousand Faces, Campbell outlined a narrative
pattern he called the monomyth, a universal story structure found in myths and legends throughout human history. The hero's journey is a version of this monomyth that emphasizes the separation, initiation and return of a hero transformed. It is a powerful guide through the unknown toward a more authentic way of living, allowing us to fully express our uniqueness while revealing our connection to the world and everyone in it.
Every hero's journey begins in the ordinary
world, our comfort zone, the familiar realm of our daily lives and habitual patterns. It's where our current personal myth reigns supreme, unchallenged and often unexamined. But it's also a place where we can feel a nagging sense of dissatisfaction, a feeling that there must be something more. Viewing my own life through this framework,
my first encounter with the ordinary world occurred when I was fresh out of
college and had a clear plan for my life. I was going to move to LA
and become an actor. This story had been central to my
personal myth for years. But beneath the certainty, there was a whisper of doubt, a feeling that something was missing. Then comes the call to adventure. The moment when life presents us with a challenge or opportunity that disrupts our routines. An invitation to step into the unknown, to question our assumptions, to expand our understanding of who we are and what we're capable of. For me, that call came in the form of a weekend trip to San Francisco. What was meant to be a brief getaway turned into a pivotal moment. I found myself captivated by the city and more specifically, by a man in a cowboy hat behind a bar. In that moment, my carefully constructed plans began to crumble and a new possibility emerged. Often our first response to the call is reluctance. Our current personal myth, with all its familiar limitations and safety mechanisms, resists change. To know who we truly are, we must learn to let go of our rigid beliefs and expectations and begin to open ourselves to new possibilities.
As we accept the call and cross
the threshold into the unknown, we enter the realm of trials and challenges. This is where transformation occurs. In the hero's journey, this often involves facing monsters or overcoming obstacles in our Lives.
These trials might take the form of fears, perceived setbacks, or feelings of being
hurled out of our comfort zones.
During my time in San Francisco, I faced numerous trials. I had to confront my fears of coming out, changing my career path, and starting my first real relationship with a man. Each of these challenges forced me to examine and revise my personal myth.
I was no longer the aspiring actor from a small town. I was embarking on a new story, one that I was writing day by day.
Along the way, I encountered helpers and
mentors, friends who supported my coming out,
teachers who encouraged my exploration of new paths, even strangers whose wisdom arrived at
just the right moment.
The climax of the hero's journey often
involves a supreme ordeal, a moment of profound realization, or a major life change.
For me, this came when my new boyfriend and I decided to buy a small boat and sail it from San
Francisco to Key West. It was a huge endeavor that required
me to let go of my new urban identity and many of my ideas about success and comfort.
It was both terrifying and exhilarating.
After the ordeal comes the return, bringing
our hard won wisdom back to the ordinary world transformed.
My return came two years later when our sailing trip and our relationship ended in Key West. I was heartbroken when I returned to San Francisco. But with time and the support of my community, I came to know the many gifts of that journey. And more than 35 years later, my
first boyfriend is still one of my closest friends. The beauty of viewing our lives through
the lens of the hero's journey is that it infuses even ordinary moments with meaning and potential. Every day presents new calls to adventure, new challenges, new opportunities for growth. As my Aunt Kim understood so many years ago, the true magic of the hero's journey lies not in reaching some distant destination, but in the transformation that
occurs within us along the way.
It's a journey of coming home to
ourselves, of discovering the courage, compassion, and wisdom that we may not even have known were already there. If this resonates with you, if somewhere in these words you recognize your own story, your own whisper of something more,
then I want you to know that
you are already on the journey. You have always been on it. The map has always been yours. And whenever you're ready to explore it more deeply, I will be here. For now, let that be enough. Let the questions rest. Let the stories settle quietly like leaves finding the ground. There is nothing you need to figure out tonight, nothing you need to become. You are already exactly where you need to be. Rest well, friend. Good night.
In this special episode, Erik Ireland shares an adapted reading from the introduction and first section of his debut book, Awaken Your Myth. Bringing his signature soothing tone, Erik invites listeners to explore the concept of living one’s life as a hero’s journey—a personal myth to be discovered, redefined, and fully inhabited. The story blends autobiography, wisdom, and gentle meditation, offering comfort and inspiration to those seeking meaning or transformation.
True to the “mountain grandpa” tradition, Erik’s reading is warm, comforting, and gently laced with wisdom. His language is welcoming and patient, blending memoir with practical encouragement—designed to soothe, guide, and inspire, especially for those listening at bedtime or seeking deeper meaning.
This episode offers heart, hope, and a gentle reminder that the journey of self-discovery is ongoing—and that every listener is already on a path uniquely their own.