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I remember when I was like, 17, I won this one contest and it was a big, huge success for me. And I remember everyone was so happy. Nobody was hating on me yet. And that's when everything started, you know.
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B
Well, the bigger you get, the harder it gets and the more challenges you have.
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A
Exactly. I realized that the most important thing is to stay true to yourself, you know, don't change for anybody. And the most important thing, what I've realized this month and is my name
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B
is Rudy Moore, host of Living the Red Life podcast, and I'm here to change the way you see your life in your earpiece every single week. If you're ready to start living the red life. Ditch the blue pill. Take the red pill. Join me in wonderland and change your life. What's up, guys? Welcome back to another episode of Living the Red Life. Today I have my friend in town, Nutsa. She's a very famous singer. You may recognize her from American Idol finalist there. And has done a whole host of things this year in particular, represented Georgia in the Eurovision, which, if you're American, you may not know, but a lot of famous people came through it in England and Europe. It's. The bit is the Olympics of singing.
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A
Yes.
[01:10]
B
Right. Welcome to the show.
[01:12]
A
Thanks, Rudy. Thanks for inviting. I'm very happy to be here. I'm very happy to be in Miami.
[01:17]
B
Miami is the place.
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A
I love it. I love it. And thanks for inviting me. Yes. It was like really big year for me as a.
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B
Last couple of years.
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A
Yeah, last. Yeah, last two years. It was really crazy. It was great years for me as a singer to grow. It was a good years for me to grow as a person as well and, you know, and see myself in bad situation, in good situations as well. But I loved it. It was great.
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B
Well, and I always say, you know, entrepreneurship, you have your ups and downs, your highs and lows. If you're a pro athlete, you get injured. Right. Or you don't get picked for the team for the Olympics. And. And I, I think singing, you know, I'm not into that industry, but anything where you're trying to be the best at what you do, yeah, it's full of ups and downs. And that's what today is about. Your success and the highs and lows of. In the singing world, right?
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A
Yes, exactly. I'm to be a single singer. Like, it's. Everybody thinks that it's fun, you know, oh, it's so fun. Like, and you go somewhere, oh, you're a singer. Could you sing for us? Like, it's so nice. We love singing and you know, and everybody's saying, oh, I wish I sang. But actually it's very hard to, you know, be on spotlight, you know, and once you do something big, then you want to do something bigger and then you want to do something bigger and then you want to do something bigger. And you know, to be, you know, thinking all the time about it and to be fully into in this, you know, it's very hard to then live your personal life as well, you know, and then to balance your personal life and career, it's kind of very hard.
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B
Well, well, also it's like, you know, the entrepreneurship, you're chipping away every hour of every day.
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A
Yes.
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B
But you're also like practicing. But you. But everything comes to one moment, right? Like the big, you know, on stage
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A
at the big moment. And you kind of like every year, like since I was a kid, I wanted to have like every year something bigger and bigger happening. So I kind of program my mind and myself that nutsa. Every year you gotta do. You gotta go higher, you gotta go higher, you gotta go higher. And then it's kind of like punishment as well for yourself, to be honest.
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B
Like fire under you.
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A
Yeah. Because like, you're always like, you always want more. You always want more. But also I learned how to like live in the present as well. And you know, and when I have the best moments, I fully enjoy it.
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B
I think what's interesting with entrepreneurs is like, I've had a lot of wow moments too, right. Big stages and Amazon Prime TV show. But because I'm so competitive, I'm like, yeah, that's cool. But I'm like already onto the next thing. And some of my friends and family almost say like, Rudy, you got to stop and enjoy the moment.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But I'm like, I think ultra successful people, they're like, by the time the moment comes, they're already like to do.
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A
Yeah, it's so true.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And also other thing is what I think that, you know, for example, you know, you come from England, right. And I come from Georgia. Right. And it's kind of also like you have to be also a person who of like, you know, you cannot be so into your culture and into your small country say, yeah. You know, you have to make your eyes and make your yourself like, like open.
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B
It's like the world's your oyster. Right. Like you got to try and. Yeah. Do whatever you can.
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A
Because I was thinking like, if I'm going to act the same way, if I'm not going to show Myself up to.
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B
To.
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A
To everything. Like, how. How these people gonna know that, you know, oh, there's a singer coming from Georgia. Like, no one really cares in America.
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B
You gotta prove it's very hard if you're not an American trying to break in, in the singing and all this.
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A
Very hard. But in my case on American Idol, it happened like, I was not even living here. I was living in Dubai by the time. And I just sent my videos, I tried, and, you know, and then it all started happening like that.
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B
Yeah. It's funny because I just filmed a documentary on myself.
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A
Yes.
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B
And I say part of it, I'm like, I think I'm delusional, and that's why I'm successful. Because you have to be, like, so delusional that you believe in yourself. Like, you're going to go from Georgia in Dubai, apply for American Idol, and then somehow get in.
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A
Right.
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B
You got to be delusional doing. But that's what makes the bet, you know? And Muhammad Ali is famous for saying, I am the greatest when he wasn't. He was just starting his boxing career. Right. So. So that successful trait lives on. And also, you know, you said, I'm from England, George. Like, if I walked around in England like this, I'd probably get attacked. Right. Or, you know, no one in England dresses like this.
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A
Right.
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B
Especially out of London, like in a small city. So you have to be a little different to be successful and.
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A
And be yourself as well.
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B
Yeah, be yourself. Course. And that's when you actually, you know, me and Tim Story were just talking about this. I think you get the biggest breakthroughs when. When you actually embrace and become yourself because people are too scared.
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A
Exactly, exactly. And also I've realized that, for example, I have, like, big thing, right? And then something like something bad happens in a ways, maybe in the family, maybe in your personal life, maybe in career, maybe there's something happens and your. Your career starts to go down. And then I think the strongest people and the most successful people is like, they are very strong. Because you gotta be strong, just fighting, keep fighting and stand up. Because standing up is harder, actually than achieving success, you know, because I remember when I was like, 17, I won this one contest, and it was a big, huge success for me. And I remember everyone was so happy. Nobody was hating on me yet, you know, everybody was so happy. And I was so lovely at that. And that's when everything started. Started, you know.
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B
Well, the bigger you get, the harder it gets and the more challenges you have.
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A
Exactly, exactly. Because then, you know, you have some status and people are waiting from you to, you know, when something is happening, you gotta make a statement. You know, then you make a statement. Then some people don't like, yeah, you can never win.
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B
Right? It's not. You never, you never win.
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A
So, so I realized that the most important thing is like to stay true to yourself, you know, don't change for anybody. And the most important thing, what I've realized is this, this month is that, you know, bad people, they're going to try, they're going to try a lot to put you down and they're going to try you to make like they are, you know, like bad, bad people.
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B
Well, bad people, they, they live. They have nothing for them going and they have all the time in the world to try and make other people suffer here.
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A
So, you know, I had like many, many, you know, thoughts about that. I'm like, like why does people are like, are why they are like so hateful towards me. I didn't do anything wrong. Right to them.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
But they want to. They trying to make you that guy. They want to try to make you the same way as they are. So the, the most wor. Thing is like to stay true to yourself and, and you know, remember who you really are and you know, just keep fighting and just, you know, go like this.
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B
Yeah, yeah. You have to. Yeah, yeah. After a while because like, you know, I've been advertising online and, and stuff for nearly eight, nine years and I think in the first couple of years it like each comment started, you analyze, it bothered me a little.
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A
You got.
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B
Yeah, but, but now the last five, six years, like genuinely, I laugh at them now I don't even see them. My team handle them. Like you get to a point where you just kind of, you know, just get on with it because. And you have to be true to yourself and know that you're doing good and you're on the right path. But I think a lot of people listening, they're actually too. They allow it to impact them too much. They get too bothered and too upset and then they question themselves and it's like causes this snowball effect over this one random person in their mom's basement.
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A
Like that person that didn't do stay out of their life. But it's really hard. So people who want to be successful and get successful, this is what I'm going to say that be ready for that.
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B
And I'm sure you're getting a lot in the last two years, right?
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A
You know, when you're a kid, especially when You. I started my career when I was 16 years old, and when you're a kid, everyone looks at you, oh, like, she's so cute. She's so. And then when you grow up and you get bigger than they actually are, especially, like, singer, like, and they see you as their competition, and then they try to put you down in any ways they can, and you got to be ready for that. You got to be. It doesn't matter how good of a person you are. It doesn't matter how kind of a person you are. With that type of people, with that kind of people, you. You just have to be like. Like, don't look them, don't give them any attention, don't give them any energy, and just, you know, ignore. Ignore completely. That's what drives them crazy.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. So that's what I'm going to say. That. Be ready for that.
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B
Yeah. And I just. Switching gears to something you said earlier, because I want to ask you. You said, you got to. You're going bigger every year. Right. So American Idol, American Eurovision.
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A
Yes.
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B
2025. What are we going to do?
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A
Well, on 2025, I wanted to do this on 2024. Right. I don't really like to say my plans until it's done. Right. But the most important thing for me on 2025 is to completely change my living space. You know, Like, I'm, like, I'm living, like, my half life. I'm living in Georgia, half. I'm always traveling, whether I'm in US Either, I' countries. Right. But I really want myself to, like, just to move in some other city, other country, and just to be there for at least one year. Okay. And that country is us, definitely. And I love Miami for that. You know, I would love, love to be settled here and to live in here, because I feel like that this city is going to give me, like, a lot of. A lot of doors and opportunities, you know, and to, you know, show myself to other stagnant. I see that. Yeah. You know, and that's very important for. For a person, as a person to grow, because in your country and in the place where you are so comfortable, I realize you never grow.
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B
No, you have.
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A
No. Because you're, like, very comfortable. Everybody loves you. Everybody knows you. You're very successful, you know? And that. Then what? That one.
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B
Every time I've moved, my life's got massively better.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And one of the first podcasts on here was Grant Cardone, and he said the same. He said every time he moved, it pushed him and his Life. And I was actually thinking back the other day, like, what are some of the biggest things in my life, like cheat codes or hacks that made my life significantly better. Right. Like miles better. Right. Not like a new car, new watch, or a new friend, but like miles better. That I'll look back when I'm 80 years old.
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Yeah.
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And the main two was moving to America and then moving to Miami. It's like, change your hot fire.
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A
And you had so many great people. It met so many, so many successful people. And I've realized every time I meet a new person who is successful in their field, they always teach me something new that makes me think about life, makes me think about myself, and I always get some knowledge from them. And it's so beautiful. The same. Same thing I can say about you, like the things that you say. Your story, you know, it's inspiring. So you meet this type of people in Miami particularly a lot?
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Yeah, a lot. Yeah.
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A
And I love it, you know, it's really great.
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Yeah. I think for, you know, anyone. Listen, Listening. The whole, like, where you live is fascinating because most people, I think they are born and they believe they have to stay in that area.
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A
Right.
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Where it's like you got the whole world to live. Right. And obviously you have family and stuff, but.
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A
And it's always scary.
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B
Yeah, of course. That's the biggest thing.
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It's scary. Yeah, Scary. But it's so beautiful, you know, once you go out from that space, a little bubble is so many adventures.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Beautiful things.
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And I. When I moved to America, everyone said, well, what if it doesn't work out? What if you don't like it?
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If there is so many. When. If tomorrow you die.
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And my reply. My reply was, well, if it doesn't work out, I just move back next year.
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Yeah. You always have your home. You always have your relatives or your friends waiting for you. And it's beautiful. When I go back to my country.
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B
Yeah, they love it.
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A
Yeah, it's so beautiful. I love it there. But then after like maybe two weeks. Yeah. You'll already, you know, I have to start grow. I had to start moving. You know, it's.
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I can last about five days in England. And then it feels like the walls, you know, like in the movies, like the horror movies, the walls come in and the. That's how. That's how I feel after like four or five days, I'm like, okay, go, leave. Yeah, I understand that. Yeah. Yeah. So. So last few questions for you. What is. What is, you know, the biggest highlights of Your life. Most things you're proud of, I imagine, right? Some of it we've mentioned. But what's the. What's a couple of the biggest things you're proud of?
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Well, I'm proud of, to be honest, obviously, my career and how. How far I came from where I started. It's. It's really inspiring for me. And I never forget it and always mention it because I never want to, you know, I. I want to prove to everybody also, like, girls, little girls, that, you know, it's possible. And that's why I'm very proud of this journey. Also. I'm proud that, you know, I stayed a person, like a good person, you know, it doesn't matter how badly other people treated me or, you know, the situations happened for me, bad situation. I still stayed humble, a nice and kind person, and my heart is clean. And that's what I'm proud of, to be honest, because there was some situations that could have, you know, made me really bad person. And I'm very proud that I stayed strong and I kept believing in God, and I'm very proud of this as well. And I'm also proud of my friends and the people that are around me. I'm very proud that I have friends like that and my relatives and my family. I'm proud of my family, too. And, you know, everything that is happening in my life, you know, I'm very grateful and proud, you know, and just every day I say thank you and it's. And when you say thank you and you're grateful, it's even better. Like, better things are coming to you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that.
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You know, for me, the most part thing is, doesn't matter what. What kind of success you're going to have if you don't stay good person. And you, you know, you became, I don't know, like, maybe like some people are, you know, they. They take their nose, you know, like that and, you know, they don't care about anything. I don't like it. I think that as humble and as long as you stay, it's much more better for you as a person.
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Love it. And next question. The opposite. Biggest failure or setback in life?
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Biggest failure. Biggest failure I had when I got very, like, I had, like, this weight transformation when I was, like, 18 or 19. No, I was 18. And I got, like, super, like, maybe, like, I was like, plus 10 kilos. And it was so hard for me. And then I went to some contest. It was Eurovision, actually. I went there and I wanted to represent my country. And, you know, I was not myself, like I said, saying definitely the Voice was mine, but the concept that everything's gone, completely gone. And that year was so big for me in, in, in ways that it was a big failure for me because, you know, last year I won a contest, the next year I go there and I sing. I just, like, I'm just not myself, you know, I just have the Voice and that's it. And it was biggest failure for me, but it made me realize that how important it is to take care of my body, take care of myself, and just to be, you know, not to lose my confidence, because it's very.
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B
Especially in what you do, you know,
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what I do on stage, I have to be 100% confident.
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B
You know, this year's Eurovision, it was a very epic performance and display, but,
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yeah, it works very high every day at the gym, doing the healthy eating and everything. But. But still, you know, it's like for me as a. As a girl who, who is a singer and is on the stage, for me to look good is very important because when I look good, I feel good. I am 100% confident. I have different energy. I feel like I'm shining. And imagine when I don't have that, that's when it's biggest. Yeah. Biggest failures.
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B
So. So. Last question or a couple of questions. I always love to ask if you could go back in a time machine to your younger self.
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A
Yes.
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B
What would you give as advice?
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I would go and say that life, don't worry, everything is gonna be like the way that you want it to be. And it. You don't have to cry over it. You know, you don't have to push something that is not meant for you.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, because. Because I, like, when I was a kid, I was like, oh, if it doesn't work, like, I'm gonna push, I'm gonna push. I'm gonna wish maybe that place is for me. But, you know, I was meant to bigger places. So I would tell myself that, that, don't worry, that place is not meant for you. That environment was not meant for you and you were meant for something bigger. And that happened.
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B
Love it.
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A
Yeah, love it. That's what I would.
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B
And then, last question. People watching or listening, first thing they want to probably do is say, well, I got to see her sing now I might not sing her sing. So how do they watch, you know, your Eurovision? Or they could go.
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A
They could go on YouTube, write my name Noodsa, and it pops up y immediately. And also on Spotify, I. I had like a really good year this year. Was it like I had a lot of listeners, I had a lot of streams and you know, I want. I was dreaming to see that those numbers.
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B
Oh, lord, what is a good number?
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A
Like my song got 6.5 million streams and you know, my song was streamed in like 179 country so it was amazing. It was a great year for me.
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B
Love it. Congrats, Congrats, congrats. Good. Well, that's a wrap, guys. Hopefully you enjoyed, you know, different industry but the same success principles, the same mindset principles. And that's, you know, obviously what this show's about is how to be successful and how to build your business and, you know, half of that or more is in the mind. So.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Thank you for coming on.
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A
Thank you.
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B
And as always, guys, keep living the red life. I'll see you soon.
[20:12]
A
See ya,
[20:18]
B
Sam.

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Living The Red Life – Episode Summary

Episode Overview

Title: Nutsa: From Small-Town Singer to 179 Countries
Host: Rudy Mawer
Guest: Nutsa (American Idol finalist, Eurovision contestant)
Date: August 5, 2026

This episode of "Living The Red Life" dives into Nutsa's extraordinary journey from a young singer in Georgia to an internationally known artist with her music streamed in 179 countries. Host Rudy Mawer and Nutsa discuss the parallels between entrepreneurship and music, the highs and lows of public life, staying authentic amid criticism, and the transformative power of stepping outside one’s comfort zone.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Beginnings and Early Success

First Big Break: Nutsa shares her excitement about winning her first major singing contest at 17, describing the initial joy before the pressures of public life kicked in.
- Quote:
  
  "I remember when I was like, 17, I won this one contest and it was a big, huge success for me. And I remember everyone was so happy. Nobody was hating on me yet." (00:00)

2. Highs and Lows of the Pursuit

Constant Growth Pressure: Both Nutsa and Rudy discuss the relentless drive for “something bigger every year,” and how it can become self-imposed pressure.
- Quote:
  
  "Every year you gotta do. You gotta go higher, you gotta go higher, you gotta go higher. And then it's kind of like punishment as well for yourself, to be honest." (03:06)
Parallel with Entrepreneurship: Rudy points out the similarities between artists and entrepreneurs, including resilience, high expectations, and learning from setbacks.
- Memorable moment:
  
  "Ultra successful people...by the time the moment comes, they’re already like onto the next thing." (04:07)

3. Cultural Barriers and Expanding Horizons

Crossing Borders: Nutsa grew up in Georgia, lived in Dubai, and had to overcome cultural barriers to participate in American Idol before moving into the U.S. and European music scenes.
- Quote:
  
  "If I'm going to act the same way...how these people gonna know that, you know, oh, there's a singer coming from Georgia?" (04:50)
Advice on Mobility: Both agree moving to new places dramatically expands opportunities and personal growth.
- Quote:
  
  "Every time I've moved, my life's got massively better." (11:57, Rudy)
  "In your country and in the place where you are so comfortable, I realize you never grow." (11:50, Nutsa)
  "It's always scary...But it's so beautiful, you know, once you go out from that space, a little bubble, so many adventures." (13:25, Nutsa)

4. Handling Criticism, Haters, and Fame

Rise of Criticism: As Nutsa’s profile rose, so did haters and judgment from others—something she reflects on as a vital part of success.
- Quote:
  
  "Bad people, they're going to try a lot to put you down...the most important thing is like to stay true to yourself, you know, don't change for anybody." (07:33)
Building Resilience: With experience, both have learned to ignore negativity and stay focused on their values and goals.
- Quote:
  
  "You have to be true to yourself and know that you're doing good and you're on the right path." (08:50, Rudy)
Advice to Aspiring Success Stories:
- Quote:
  
  "For people who want to be successful and get successful, this is what I’m going to say: be ready for that." (09:24)

5. Personal Achievements and Pride

Proud Moments: Nutsa highlights her pride in:
- Her perseverance from small beginnings to international fame.
- Maintaining kindness and humility through adversity.
- Staying connected with family and friends.
- Quote:
  
  "I'm proud that I stayed strong and I kept believing in God...very proud of my friends and my relatives and my family." (14:34)

6. Biggest Setback and Lessons Learned

Failure as Catalyst: Nutsa recounts a difficult experience at Eurovision when her confidence and self-care lapsed, impacting her performance.
- Quote:
  
  "That year was so big for me in ways that it was a big failure for me...I was not myself, like I said, the voice was mine, but the concept that everything's gone, completely gone." (16:33)
Lesson: The importance of self-care, confidence, and holistic preparation for success.
- Quote:
  
  "When I look good, I feel good. I am 100% confident. I have different energy. I feel like I'm shining." (17:47)

7. Advice to Younger Self

Trusting the Journey:
- Quote:
  
  "Don't worry, everything is gonna be like the way that you want it to be...don't have to push something that is not meant for you." (18:27)

8. Nutsa’s Reach & Achievements

Global Success: Her music is streamed in 179 countries with a hit song reaching 6.5 million streams in a year.
- Quote:
  
  "My song got 6.5 million streams, and...was streamed in like 179 country so it was amazing." (19:35)
Where to Find Her:
- Nutsa encourages listeners to check out her performances on YouTube and music on Spotify. (19:16)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

On Success Pressure:
"Every year you gotta do. You gotta go higher, you gotta go higher...it's kind of like punishment as well." (03:06 – Nutsa)
On Being Different:
"You have to be a little different to be successful." (06:03 – Rudy)
On Handling Haters:
"Standing up is harder, actually, than achieving success." (06:22 – Nutsa)
On Staying True:
"Stay true to yourself, don't change for anybody." (07:33 – Nutsa)
On Moving and Growth:
"Every time I've moved, my life's got massively better." (11:57 – Rudy)
On Self-Care:
"When I look good, I feel good. I am 100% confident. I have different energy. I feel like I'm shining." (17:47 – Nutsa)

Timestamps for Important Segments

00:00-00:31 – Early experiences and first big contest win
02:11-03:48 – The reality of balancing growth, success, and personal life
04:50-05:21 – Breaking into global markets and American Idol journey
06:10-07:33 – Staying authentic and the necessity of being different
07:33-10:23 – Handling criticism, haters, and staying resilient
11:50-13:35 – The transformative power of moving and embracing new challenges
14:34-16:00 – Nutsa’s proudest achievements and staying humble
16:33-18:17 – Biggest setbacks, Eurovision experience, and self-care
18:27-19:01 – Advice to younger self
19:16-19:49 – Nutsa's music success and online presence

Episode Tone

The episode is conversational, encouraging, candid, and motivational. Both speakers maintain a tone that mixes humility with ambition, sharing pragmatic wisdom and personal stories without pretention. Nutsa is reflective and honest, while Rudy is energetic, supportive, and practical.

This episode will inspire entrepreneurs and creatives alike to embrace challenges, persist through setbacks, stay true to themselves, and consider new environments as catalysts for exponential growth.

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I remember when I was like, 17, I won this one contest and it was a big, huge success for me. And I remember everyone was so happy. Nobody was hating on me yet. And that's when everything started, you know.
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B
Well, the bigger you get, the harder it gets and the more challenges you have.
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A
Exactly. I realized that the most important thing is to stay true to yourself, you know, don't change for anybody. And the most important thing, what I've realized this month and is my name
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B
is Rudy Moore, host of Living the Red Life podcast, and I'm here to change the way you see your life in your earpiece every single week. If you're ready to start living the red life. Ditch the blue pill. Take the red pill. Join me in wonderland and change your life. What's up, guys? Welcome back to another episode of Living the Red Life. Today I have my friend in town, Nutsa. She's a very famous singer. You may recognize her from American Idol finalist there. And has done a whole host of things this year in particular, represented Georgia in the Eurovision, which, if you're American, you may not know, but a lot of famous people came through it in England and Europe. It's. The bit is the Olympics of singing.
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A
Yes.
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B
Right. Welcome to the show.
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A
Thanks, Rudy. Thanks for inviting. I'm very happy to be here. I'm very happy to be in Miami.
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B
Miami is the place.
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A
I love it. I love it. And thanks for inviting me. Yes. It was like really big year for me as a.
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B
Last couple of years.
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A
Yeah, last. Yeah, last two years. It was really crazy. It was great years for me as a singer to grow. It was a good years for me to grow as a person as well and, you know, and see myself in bad situation, in good situations as well. But I loved it. It was great.
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B
Well, and I always say, you know, entrepreneurship, you have your ups and downs, your highs and lows. If you're a pro athlete, you get injured. Right. Or you don't get picked for the team for the Olympics. And. And I, I think singing, you know, I'm not into that industry, but anything where you're trying to be the best at what you do, yeah, it's full of ups and downs. And that's what today is about. Your success and the highs and lows of. In the singing world, right?
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A
Yes, exactly. I'm to be a single singer. Like, it's. Everybody thinks that it's fun, you know, oh, it's so fun. Like, and you go somewhere, oh, you're a singer. Could you sing for us? Like, it's so nice. We love singing and you know, and everybody's saying, oh, I wish I sang. But actually it's very hard to, you know, be on spotlight, you know, and once you do something big, then you want to do something bigger and then you want to do something bigger and then you want to do something bigger. And you know, to be, you know, thinking all the time about it and to be fully into in this, you know, it's very hard to then live your personal life as well, you know, and then to balance your personal life and career, it's kind of very hard.
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B
Well, well, also it's like, you know, the entrepreneurship, you're chipping away every hour of every day.
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A
Yes.
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B
But you're also like practicing. But you. But everything comes to one moment, right? Like the big, you know, on stage
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A
at the big moment. And you kind of like every year, like since I was a kid, I wanted to have like every year something bigger and bigger happening. So I kind of program my mind and myself that nutsa. Every year you gotta do. You gotta go higher, you gotta go higher, you gotta go higher. And then it's kind of like punishment as well for yourself, to be honest.
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B
Like fire under you.
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A
Yeah. Because like, you're always like, you always want more. You always want more. But also I learned how to like live in the present as well. And you know, and when I have the best moments, I fully enjoy it.
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B
I think what's interesting with entrepreneurs is like, I've had a lot of wow moments too, right. Big stages and Amazon Prime TV show. But because I'm so competitive, I'm like, yeah, that's cool. But I'm like already onto the next thing. And some of my friends and family almost say like, Rudy, you got to stop and enjoy the moment.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But I'm like, I think ultra successful people, they're like, by the time the moment comes, they're already like to do.
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A
Yeah, it's so true.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And also other thing is what I think that, you know, for example, you know, you come from England, right. And I come from Georgia. Right. And it's kind of also like you have to be also a person who of like, you know, you cannot be so into your culture and into your small country say, yeah. You know, you have to make your eyes and make your yourself like, like open.
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B
It's like the world's your oyster. Right. Like you got to try and. Yeah. Do whatever you can.
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A
Because I was thinking like, if I'm going to act the same way, if I'm not going to show Myself up to.
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B
To.
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A
To everything. Like, how. How these people gonna know that, you know, oh, there's a singer coming from Georgia. Like, no one really cares in America.
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B
You gotta prove it's very hard if you're not an American trying to break in, in the singing and all this.
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A
Very hard. But in my case on American Idol, it happened like, I was not even living here. I was living in Dubai by the time. And I just sent my videos, I tried, and, you know, and then it all started happening like that.
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B
Yeah. It's funny because I just filmed a documentary on myself.
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A
Yes.
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B
And I say part of it, I'm like, I think I'm delusional, and that's why I'm successful. Because you have to be, like, so delusional that you believe in yourself. Like, you're going to go from Georgia in Dubai, apply for American Idol, and then somehow get in.
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A
Right.
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B
You got to be delusional doing. But that's what makes the bet, you know? And Muhammad Ali is famous for saying, I am the greatest when he wasn't. He was just starting his boxing career. Right. So. So that successful trait lives on. And also, you know, you said, I'm from England, George. Like, if I walked around in England like this, I'd probably get attacked. Right. Or, you know, no one in England dresses like this.
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A
Right.
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B
Especially out of London, like in a small city. So you have to be a little different to be successful and.
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A
And be yourself as well.
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B
Yeah, be yourself. Course. And that's when you actually, you know, me and Tim Story were just talking about this. I think you get the biggest breakthroughs when. When you actually embrace and become yourself because people are too scared.
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A
Exactly, exactly. And also I've realized that, for example, I have, like, big thing, right? And then something like something bad happens in a ways, maybe in the family, maybe in your personal life, maybe in career, maybe there's something happens and your. Your career starts to go down. And then I think the strongest people and the most successful people is like, they are very strong. Because you gotta be strong, just fighting, keep fighting and stand up. Because standing up is harder, actually than achieving success, you know, because I remember when I was like, 17, I won this one contest, and it was a big, huge success for me. And I remember everyone was so happy. Nobody was hating on me yet, you know, everybody was so happy. And I was so lovely at that. And that's when everything started. Started, you know.
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B
Well, the bigger you get, the harder it gets and the more challenges you have.
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A
Exactly, exactly. Because then, you know, you have some status and people are waiting from you to, you know, when something is happening, you gotta make a statement. You know, then you make a statement. Then some people don't like, yeah, you can never win.
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B
Right? It's not. You never, you never win.
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A
So, so I realized that the most important thing is like to stay true to yourself, you know, don't change for anybody. And the most important thing, what I've realized is this, this month is that, you know, bad people, they're going to try, they're going to try a lot to put you down and they're going to try you to make like they are, you know, like bad, bad people.
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B
Well, bad people, they, they live. They have nothing for them going and they have all the time in the world to try and make other people suffer here.
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A
So, you know, I had like many, many, you know, thoughts about that. I'm like, like why does people are like, are why they are like so hateful towards me. I didn't do anything wrong. Right to them.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
But they want to. They trying to make you that guy. They want to try to make you the same way as they are. So the, the most wor. Thing is like to stay true to yourself and, and you know, remember who you really are and you know, just keep fighting and just, you know, go like this.
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B
Yeah, yeah. You have to. Yeah, yeah. After a while because like, you know, I've been advertising online and, and stuff for nearly eight, nine years and I think in the first couple of years it like each comment started, you analyze, it bothered me a little.
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A
You got.
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B
Yeah, but, but now the last five, six years, like genuinely, I laugh at them now I don't even see them. My team handle them. Like you get to a point where you just kind of, you know, just get on with it because. And you have to be true to yourself and know that you're doing good and you're on the right path. But I think a lot of people listening, they're actually too. They allow it to impact them too much. They get too bothered and too upset and then they question themselves and it's like causes this snowball effect over this one random person in their mom's basement.
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A
Like that person that didn't do stay out of their life. But it's really hard. So people who want to be successful and get successful, this is what I'm going to say that be ready for that.
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B
And I'm sure you're getting a lot in the last two years, right?
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A
You know, when you're a kid, especially when You. I started my career when I was 16 years old, and when you're a kid, everyone looks at you, oh, like, she's so cute. She's so. And then when you grow up and you get bigger than they actually are, especially, like, singer, like, and they see you as their competition, and then they try to put you down in any ways they can, and you got to be ready for that. You got to be. It doesn't matter how good of a person you are. It doesn't matter how kind of a person you are. With that type of people, with that kind of people, you. You just have to be like. Like, don't look them, don't give them any attention, don't give them any energy, and just, you know, ignore. Ignore completely. That's what drives them crazy.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. So that's what I'm going to say. That. Be ready for that.
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B
Yeah. And I just. Switching gears to something you said earlier, because I want to ask you. You said, you got to. You're going bigger every year. Right. So American Idol, American Eurovision.
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A
Yes.
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B
2025. What are we going to do?
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A
Well, on 2025, I wanted to do this on 2024. Right. I don't really like to say my plans until it's done. Right. But the most important thing for me on 2025 is to completely change my living space. You know, Like, I'm, like, I'm living, like, my half life. I'm living in Georgia, half. I'm always traveling, whether I'm in US Either, I' countries. Right. But I really want myself to, like, just to move in some other city, other country, and just to be there for at least one year. Okay. And that country is us, definitely. And I love Miami for that. You know, I would love, love to be settled here and to live in here, because I feel like that this city is going to give me, like, a lot of. A lot of doors and opportunities, you know, and to, you know, show myself to other stagnant. I see that. Yeah. You know, and that's very important for. For a person, as a person to grow, because in your country and in the place where you are so comfortable, I realize you never grow.
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B
No, you have.
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A
No. Because you're, like, very comfortable. Everybody loves you. Everybody knows you. You're very successful, you know? And that. Then what? That one.
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B
Every time I've moved, my life's got massively better.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And one of the first podcasts on here was Grant Cardone, and he said the same. He said every time he moved, it pushed him and his Life. And I was actually thinking back the other day, like, what are some of the biggest things in my life, like cheat codes or hacks that made my life significantly better. Right. Like miles better. Right. Not like a new car, new watch, or a new friend, but like miles better. That I'll look back when I'm 80 years old.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And the main two was moving to America and then moving to Miami. It's like, change your hot fire.
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A
And you had so many great people. It met so many, so many successful people. And I've realized every time I meet a new person who is successful in their field, they always teach me something new that makes me think about life, makes me think about myself, and I always get some knowledge from them. And it's so beautiful. The same. Same thing I can say about you, like the things that you say. Your story, you know, it's inspiring. So you meet this type of people in Miami particularly a lot?
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B
Yeah, a lot. Yeah.
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A
And I love it, you know, it's really great.
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B
Yeah. I think for, you know, anyone. Listen, Listening. The whole, like, where you live is fascinating because most people, I think they are born and they believe they have to stay in that area.
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A
Right.
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B
Where it's like you got the whole world to live. Right. And obviously you have family and stuff, but.
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A
And it's always scary.
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B
Yeah, of course. That's the biggest thing.
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A
It's scary. Yeah, Scary. But it's so beautiful, you know, once you go out from that space, a little bubble is so many adventures.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Beautiful things.
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B
And I. When I moved to America, everyone said, well, what if it doesn't work out? What if you don't like it?
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A
If there is so many. When. If tomorrow you die.
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B
And my reply. My reply was, well, if it doesn't work out, I just move back next year.
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A
Yeah. You always have your home. You always have your relatives or your friends waiting for you. And it's beautiful. When I go back to my country.
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B
Yeah, they love it.
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A
Yeah, it's so beautiful. I love it there. But then after like maybe two weeks. Yeah. You'll already, you know, I have to start grow. I had to start moving. You know, it's.
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B
I can last about five days in England. And then it feels like the walls, you know, like in the movies, like the horror movies, the walls come in and the. That's how. That's how I feel after like four or five days, I'm like, okay, go, leave. Yeah, I understand that. Yeah. Yeah. So. So last few questions for you. What is. What is, you know, the biggest highlights of Your life. Most things you're proud of, I imagine, right? Some of it we've mentioned. But what's the. What's a couple of the biggest things you're proud of?
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A
Well, I'm proud of, to be honest, obviously, my career and how. How far I came from where I started. It's. It's really inspiring for me. And I never forget it and always mention it because I never want to, you know, I. I want to prove to everybody also, like, girls, little girls, that, you know, it's possible. And that's why I'm very proud of this journey. Also. I'm proud that, you know, I stayed a person, like a good person, you know, it doesn't matter how badly other people treated me or, you know, the situations happened for me, bad situation. I still stayed humble, a nice and kind person, and my heart is clean. And that's what I'm proud of, to be honest, because there was some situations that could have, you know, made me really bad person. And I'm very proud that I stayed strong and I kept believing in God, and I'm very proud of this as well. And I'm also proud of my friends and the people that are around me. I'm very proud that I have friends like that and my relatives and my family. I'm proud of my family, too. And, you know, everything that is happening in my life, you know, I'm very grateful and proud, you know, and just every day I say thank you and it's. And when you say thank you and you're grateful, it's even better. Like, better things are coming to you.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that.
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A
You know, for me, the most part thing is, doesn't matter what. What kind of success you're going to have if you don't stay good person. And you, you know, you became, I don't know, like, maybe like some people are, you know, they. They take their nose, you know, like that and, you know, they don't care about anything. I don't like it. I think that as humble and as long as you stay, it's much more better for you as a person.
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B
Love it. And next question. The opposite. Biggest failure or setback in life?
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A
Biggest failure. Biggest failure I had when I got very, like, I had, like, this weight transformation when I was, like, 18 or 19. No, I was 18. And I got, like, super, like, maybe, like, I was like, plus 10 kilos. And it was so hard for me. And then I went to some contest. It was Eurovision, actually. I went there and I wanted to represent my country. And, you know, I was not myself, like I said, saying definitely the Voice was mine, but the concept that everything's gone, completely gone. And that year was so big for me in, in, in ways that it was a big failure for me because, you know, last year I won a contest, the next year I go there and I sing. I just, like, I'm just not myself, you know, I just have the Voice and that's it. And it was biggest failure for me, but it made me realize that how important it is to take care of my body, take care of myself, and just to be, you know, not to lose my confidence, because it's very.
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B
Especially in what you do, you know,
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A
what I do on stage, I have to be 100% confident.
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B
You know, this year's Eurovision, it was a very epic performance and display, but,
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A
yeah, it works very high every day at the gym, doing the healthy eating and everything. But. But still, you know, it's like for me as a. As a girl who, who is a singer and is on the stage, for me to look good is very important because when I look good, I feel good. I am 100% confident. I have different energy. I feel like I'm shining. And imagine when I don't have that, that's when it's biggest. Yeah. Biggest failures.
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B
So. So. Last question or a couple of questions. I always love to ask if you could go back in a time machine to your younger self.
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A
Yes.
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B
What would you give as advice?
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A
I would go and say that life, don't worry, everything is gonna be like the way that you want it to be. And it. You don't have to cry over it. You know, you don't have to push something that is not meant for you.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, because. Because I, like, when I was a kid, I was like, oh, if it doesn't work, like, I'm gonna push, I'm gonna push. I'm gonna wish maybe that place is for me. But, you know, I was meant to bigger places. So I would tell myself that, that, don't worry, that place is not meant for you. That environment was not meant for you and you were meant for something bigger. And that happened.
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B
Love it.
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A
Yeah, love it. That's what I would.
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B
And then, last question. People watching or listening, first thing they want to probably do is say, well, I got to see her sing now I might not sing her sing. So how do they watch, you know, your Eurovision? Or they could go.
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A
They could go on YouTube, write my name Noodsa, and it pops up y immediately. And also on Spotify, I. I had like a really good year this year. Was it like I had a lot of listeners, I had a lot of streams and you know, I want. I was dreaming to see that those numbers.
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B
Oh, lord, what is a good number?
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Like my song got 6.5 million streams and you know, my song was streamed in like 179 country so it was amazing. It was a great year for me.
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B
Love it. Congrats, Congrats, congrats. Good. Well, that's a wrap, guys. Hopefully you enjoyed, you know, different industry but the same success principles, the same mindset principles. And that's, you know, obviously what this show's about is how to be successful and how to build your business and, you know, half of that or more is in the mind. So.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Thank you for coming on.
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A
Thank you.
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B
And as always, guys, keep living the red life. I'll see you soon.
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A
See ya,
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B
Sam.