Subtitle: I'm Betraying My Savior a Little Bit

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Tonetta talks about being a speaker at 16 in front of 800 people. Anthony talks about hearing God's voice in middle school. The pastors talk about feeling invisible in their profession.

Key Topics Discussed:

Early Ministry & Calling

Early experiences preaching/teaching as teenagers
- Sensing divine calling at a young age
- Gender barriers in ministry
- Navigating seminary and education Identity & Ministry
- Being LGBTQ+ in church leadership
- Representation in pastoral roles
- Barriers faced in evangelical spaces

Wrestling with authenticity and calling Pastoral Work

- The invisible nature of pastoral ministry
- Balancing business operations with spiritual care
- Managing church communications and marketing
- Setting boundaries and avoiding burnout
- Dealing with secondary trauma
- Building genuine relationships with congregants

Spiritual Leadership

- Teaching scripture and theology
- Cultivating prayer lives
- Creating space for spiritual formation
- Walking alongside people long-term -
Paying attention to the Spirit's movement
- Building biblical imagination

Administrative Challenges

- Running a nonprofit organization -
Managing volunteers and programs
- Tracking attendance and engagement -
Handling church finances and budgets
- Balancing different aspects of church leadership
- Wrestling with church marketing and growth

Legacy & Future Hopes

- Teaching people to pray
- Building beloved community
- Creating spaces for authentic faith
- Helping people connect scripture to local context
- Supporting marginalized Christians
- Maintaining spiritual health long-term