Have you ever stared at your phone, rereading a text that ended with a period and spiraled into, “Oh no… are they mad at me?” Or maybe someone didn’t heart your Instagram story, and suddenly your nervous system is in full red alert mode. If so, you’re not alone. And you’re definitely not broken.

I’m joined by psychotherapist and author Meg Josephson to talk about the fawn response, a lesser-known trauma response that shows up as people-pleasing, overthinking, and needing to manage how others feel about you. We’re digging into where this comes from, why it’s so common (especially if you grew up walking on eggshells), and how to start untangling yourself from it.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 What Is Relational Hypervigilance?

02:22 Meg Josephson’s Journey With People-Pleasing

10:37 Understanding Complex Trauma and Emotional Safety

17:05 What Is the Fawn Response?

23:23 How Hypervigilance Disconnects You From Yourself

31:15 How People-Pleasing Impacts Boundaries

36:27 Why “Negative” Emotions Like Resentment Matter

41:11 Reassurance vs. Emotional Validation

46:07 Letting Go of Control and Reclaiming Your Energy

49:37 Healing Through Self-Awareness and Discomfort

51:13 Where to Find Meg Josephson’s Work

If you’ve ever wondered, “Why do I always feel like I’m in trouble?” or “Why is it so hard to set boundaries without guilt?” – this episode will help you understand what’s really going on beneath those feelings and what healing can actually look like.

Ready to stop twisting yourself into knots trying to keep everyone else happy? My Clarity & Confidence Coaching Program can help you reconnect with you – your voice, your boundaries, your sense of calm. If you’re done second-guessing and ready to start showing up authentically, this is your next step. 🌱

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xoxo,

Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

Growing Self

P.S. Meg’s book “Are You Mad at Me?” comes out August 5th – and it is SO GOOD! You can also follow her on Instagram and TikTok. Check out her Substack, Peace of Mind. Highly recommend.

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