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Lovett or Leave It has officially loved and left another perfect year in America. This week, Margaret Cho and Fortune Feimster look back on the moments that red, white and blew our minds in 2024. Luenell brings enough hot, fresh takes to feed us all ’til 2025. Lovett and his guests shake their fists at the holidays, and nine gay little reindeer pull us along for one last Joyride before New Year’s. Tour dates & cities: crooked.com/events
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John Lovett
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Luenell
Know that Senator Schiff did a very.
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John Lovett
Very good job on the hearings. He broke no laws whatsoever and the truth stands for itself. Wow, that must be nice to think about. I want to live in that society where the truth stands for itself. Sounds amazing. Adam Schiff sleeping soundly in his bed, taking high speed rail to visit the Museum of Female Presidents. Schiff said much the same at the same press conference, telling reporters, I don't think the incoming president should be threatening his political opponents with jail time, nor do I think that a pardon is necessary for members of the January 6th committee. This puts Biden in a weird spot. When someone says no gifts, do they really mean no gifts or are you going to look like a moron when you show up empty handed and Cash Patel is frog marching Anthony Fauci and Jack Smith down Pennsylvan in full clown makeup. Pardons are like umbrellas and guns. Better to have one and not need it than need one and not have it. Benny Thompson, who chaired the committee, on the other hand said on Thursday that he'd take a pardon.
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Luenell
It's his prerogative. If he offers it to me or other members of the committee, I think I would accept it. But it's his choice, huh?
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John Lovett
Trying to put my finger on the difference between Benny Thompson, who doesn't believe the truth always speaks for itself in America, and Adam Schiff and Chuck Schumer trying to pinpoint what their experiences might be that would teach them to maybe take the fucking pardon. I'm not sure. I want you to know something. If I was on the January 6th committee, I'd be saying, give me the fucking pardon, Joe. Oh, it gives Donald Trump a talking point, okay? I'm so sad that Donald Trump has a talking point while I'm sleeping at home with my family. Meanwhile, GOP Senator Joni Ernst appears to have yielded to a MAGA pressure campaign to support Pete Hegseth's nomination to be secretary of defense. But would he even be Pete Hegseth if a woman said no and he didn't hear a maybe? Meanwhile, CNN posted a Ben Shapiro interview Pete Hegseth gave in June, in which he criticized the end of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Now you just have the absurdity of I have two mommies and I'm so proud to show them that I can wear the uniform, too. So it's just like everything else the Marxists and the leftists have done. At first it was camouflaged nicely and now they're just open about it. Gays in the military, calling your boyfriend your boyfriend instead of your roommate. The Bo and Yang renaissance on snl. It's like, what happened to not rubbing it in our faces? Hegseth, of all people, shouldn't be casting scorn on people with two mommies. He is the one who writes emails about what a piece of shit he is and the one that defends him on Fox News. On Tuesday, Trump announced on Truth Social that he had selected Kimberly Guilfoyle to serve as ambassador to Greece. Many have mocked this appointment, but that's unfair. This is a former Fox News personality. She has spent years looking at the ruins of ancient faces and pretending to think they're beautiful. The announcement came amid rumors that Guilfoyle and her fiance, Don Jr. Had broken up with the Daily Mail, publishing photos of Don Jr. Holding hands with PA Palm beach socialite Bettina Anderson. Look, breakups are hard. Sometimes you wait because you don't trust your own judgment. You worry you can't tell the difference between a person not being right and a person like all people not being perfect that you have unrealistic expectations of relationships, that you apply your ambition, your vaguely capitalist and technocratic tilt towards efficiency and maximization to the unquantifiable sublime of affinity and companionship, while knowing on a deeper level that any relationship will require compromise and involve frustration not only for you, but for the partner whose love can only be real and lasting if they see your flaws alongside your gifts and choose the bargain anyway. But because of your toxic combination of arrogance and deep self loathing, you find it hard to imagine anyone you deem worthy finding that bargain to be one worth making. And so you can only foresee alienating relationships built on the fragile deception of hiding parts of yourself until the truth ultimately dooms your hopes of happiness or a life of loneliness as you slowly lose the capacity to open yourself to love in the first place. And then your dad is like what if we just sent that bitch to Greece on Thursday? It's just a hypothetical. On Thursday, the Daily Beast published previously reported details of a sexual harassment claim made against Guilfoyle in 2018 by her former assistant, including one particularly upsetting instance in which Guilfoyle allegedly attempted to get her assistance to give her a massage on her exposed thighs. This is my take back my life. RFK Jr reportedly began a push this week to get his daughter in law and former campaign manager Amaryllis Fox Kennedy named Deputy Director of the CIA, a position that does not require Senate approval. Somebody's getting greedy. Defluoridating the water is your treat for endorsing Trump. You get one treat. Whatever. What's one more Kennedy at this point, put Jack Schlossberg in front of the post office. See if I give a fuck. Fox Kennedy worked at the CIA for over a decade, detailing that chapter of her career in a 2019 memoir titled Life Undercover. Coming of age in the CIA. So good news. She can keep a secret, according to Axios, and this is real RFK Jr wants more Kennedy members at the intelligence agency because he hopes to prove the CIA assassinated his uncle jfk and honestly, great focus on that. Rather that where his attention goes than vaccine approvals. How did Lee Harvey Oswald get back into the country after defecting to the Soviet Union? And what was Jack Ruby's whole deal? Give him hell. Bobby Elon and Vivek approve his red string budget and let the man cook. President Biden on Thursday commuted the sentences of nearly 1500 people who were released from prison into home confinement during the pandemic and pardoned 39 people convicted of nonviolent crimes. Biden should have just slipped Hunter Biden in with that big stack of names. Then he could be like, I pardon too. Oh, would you look at that. There's so many names. Didn't even notice. That marks the largest number of commutations in one day by any US President until he fully clears out the 5,000 bloodthirsty inhabitants of Colorado's supermax woke trans prison on his last day in office. Oh God, I've said too much. Speaking of flying free, Federal wildlife officials this week proposed that monarch butterflies be classified as threatened and receive federal protection. Know for sure Protect the butterflies first, said a jumpy Liz Cheney Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell tripped and fell after Senate Republicans weekly lunch on Tuesday. Hey, did it hurt when you fell after when you fell after the Senate More flirtatious. Hey, did it hurt when you fell after the Senate Republicans weekly lunch? A McConnell spokesperson said in a statement. Leader McConnell sustained a minor cut to the face and sprained his wrist. He has been cleared to resume his schedule as Fiero in the touring production of Wicked. Now at the Pan. Speaking of Wicked drama queens, Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, has opted to fight his extradition from Pennsylvania to New York. Can you blame him? It's not safe there. Dudes are getting gunned down in the street. By way of explanation, Mangione had this to say about the shooting. Somebody touch my spaghetti? No, that's not allowed. Can't possibly be allowed these anti Italian jokes, right? Put it in the comments. Is it allowed? I don't think so. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah. Meanwhile, the Internet has exploded with merch inspired by the killer. From T shirts and mugs to Christmas ornaments and fake bullets that read Deny, Defend, Depose. Look, I find this all pretty gross. A lot of people bravely posting to prove how radical and broken they are, while fortunate to live in a world where crimes like this are rare and shocking because a disordered and chaotic and violent society is one that causes people to turn inward and one that benefits fascists. And if you enter the code, love it at checkout, you'll get 20% off and free shipping. What the fuck? Approve that. In an interview with HuffPo, Elizabeth Warren condemned the shooting, but added, the visceral response from people across the country who feel cheated, ripped off and threatened by the vile practices of their insurance companies should be a warning to everyone in the healthcare system. Damn, Liz. About to create big structural change and some kneecaps. Send the Massachusetts senator Violence is never the answer. But people can only be pushed so far. She said that last part after backing her Subaru into a shopping cart and someone neglected to return at the target. But it applies here. Warren later clarified her comments in a statement to Politico. Violence is never the answer, period. I should have been much clearer that there is never a justification for murder. So if you were hoping for the rise of a menopausal Batman, the Way continues. Bernie Sanders told Jacobin on Thursday. It goes without saying that killing anybody, this guy happened to be a father of two kids. You don't kill people. It's abhorrent. I condemn it wholeheartedly. It was a terrible act. But what it did show online is that many, many people are furious at the health insurance companies who make huge profits denying them and their families the health care that they desperately need. We are not going to reform the healthcare system by killing people. The way we are going to bring about the kind of fundamental changes we need in health care is in fact by a political movement which understands the government has got to represent all of us, not just the 1%. Bernie and Warren are trying to do something tricky, harness a wave of populist anger without condoning the violent crime that brought it to National Focus. Look, I don't condone what the Hamburglar does, but he has reminded all of us that the McRib is back, and that's the conversation we needed to have. Speaking of angry Italians, New Jersey residents have reportedly spotted dozens of mystery drones flying overhead since last month. To the bafflement of government officials tonight, an aerial mystery that's been described as unnerving is growing. The FBI now investigating multiple reports of unidentified drones flying over New Jersey, some as large as a small car. Yikes. It'd be scary if it were happening somewhere important. Jeff Bezos assures the public that they were just witnessing the natural migration pattern of Amazon drones flying south for the winter after Cyber Monday. In fact, federal investigators said they don't know whom the drones belong to, but that they don't believe they pose a threat. Very reassuring, team. We have no idea who sent these drones or why they're here, but it's probably fine. Of course it's probably fine. We have to throw away toothpaste at the airport because of a foiled plot 20 years ago. You don't get to do it's probably fine. New Jersey Congressman Jeff Van Drew suggested Iran might be responsible and called for the drones to be shot down, said the congressman. The time to act on this information is now, before the threat escalates any further. Whether this is a foreign adversary or even just a group of drone hobbyists, we cannot allow unidentified drones to operate freely in our airspace with no consequences. And you know what? Honestly, I'm in. Fuck it. Shoot them down. It's enough with the drones. What's the worst that could happen? New Jersey's biggest nerd is a little sadder than usual Speaking of New Jersey based nerds, Democratic Congressman Josh Gottheimer, who's running for governor of New Jersey, has admitted to posting a fake Spotify rap list composed entirely of Bruce Springsteen songs. What's next is gabagool not actually his favorite work snack? Said Godheimer. This would be my Spotify wrapped if I didn't share my account with my 12 and 15 year old kids. Look, I was surprised as anyone to discover that mixed in with Beyonce and Muna and Taylor Swift and Carole King and Bon Iver, my number one song of the year. And this is real, I'm going to tell you, was Billy Joel's you're Always a Woman to me. It's genuinely baffling. It's not a great song. It's not even my one of my favorite Billy Joel songs. I think it got in there because it must pop up in a lot of different 70s and classic rock playlists. And I think it appears in a Fleetwood Mac mix, right? So when I ever I put on Fleetwood Mac, I get fucking. You're Always a woman to me and now it's my number one song of the year. But this year I also began a relationship with a trans non binary person, which means my number one song of the year. You're Always a Woman to me means my Spotify wrap is like a J.K. rowling hate crime. And you don't see me blaming my children because I don't have any. Speaking of oldies but goodies, Dick Van Dyke said his neighbors had to rescue him from this week's wildfire in Malibu. Said Van Dyke, I almost made it out of the house on my own, but then that damn Ottoman, said the 98 year old TV legend who turns 99 tomorrow. This is real. I was trying to crawl to the car. I had exhausted myself. I couldn't get up. Three neighbors came and carried me out and came back and put out a little fire in the guest house and saved me. The neighbors hesitated at first, pointing out, no, no, no, he does this. He pretends to fall, but then he springs up and starts doing a little dance. You tried. You really tried this time, Jimmy. But I will outlive you, you son of a bitch. I'm going to win this. Continued Van Dyke, referring to President Jimmy Carter and holding up one of two remaining keys he keeps around his neck. Weird. First of all, too close of a call for Dick Van Dyke. Who's not looking in on Dick Van Dyke? The fuck? Where was that 75 year old son of his? He has a very old son. Speaking of clinging to life, a Pennsylvania couple who got divorced nearly 50 years ago will get remarried this weekend at ages 94 and 89 respectively. They divorced in 1975 and would not answer questions as to why it did not work out the first time. Though the groom did say, she was the first love of my life. I never thought I'd get her back. They both went on to have other marriages and both of their spouses died, freeing up the covel for a romantic rekindling, which is your signal from the universe. Text that ex. To celebrate, the pair are honeymooning in Corfu. Oh, I'm sorry. Coffin. It says here it's a coffin. I hope they're happy. And finally, Ryan Borgward. I love that name. And you know what? We like the name. And it never plays when we say the name. It makes us laugh every time it does. Nothing in the crowd. Oh, yeah, maybe that's right. So if you. Just so you all know, let's set that up. B O R B O R G W A R D T. Okay, now that's in your minds. And finally, Ryan Borgward. It does work. It is. You got to see it. That's so funny. That's so funny. The Wisconsin kayaker who faked his own death and seemingly fled to Eastern Europe to escape his marriage, has voluntarily returned to the US after four months and is now in custody. And yeah, by custody, we do mean monogamy. Am I right, fellas? Green Lake County Sheriff Mark Podall said that Borgward, who began communicating. See, they just had a seed on their minds who began communicating with authorities last month, came back on his own because of his family, said Borgward in his own statement. No, seriously, guys, I'm mad at you. Here's my favorite moment of the whole saga. Ryan Borgart told authorities he really didn't think they'd look for him that long. Let that be a lesson for all of us. No matter how small or insignificant you feel, you are more important to this world than you know. They put divers in the lake. 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Margaret Cho
Oh, good times.
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John Lovett
It's good to see that dog again, too.
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Fortune Feimster
This dog we were both with. John and I were also on the out 100 red carpet last night. So she really worked the red carpet. And so she's a little. She's like a little bit tired, but she. She got on the front page of some. She got more coverage than me. The only reason that they took photos of me is cause she was with me.
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Margaret Cho
Well, she's adorable.
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Fortune Feimster
So I'm bringing her everywhere.
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John Lovett
I don't do red carpets and I don't know how to stand when I'm on them. But you were ahead of me and I took a few pictures and then people stopped to talk to you. You started before me, but there was so much more interest in you that I walked behind you and was gone while you were still very much engaged. You were a bit of a diversion for me to get out safely, but you.
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Fortune Feimster
I was. I was really turning my head because, Jimmy, you're the real celebrity. So I wanted to see you. And you had a lovely petticoat on that I wanted to see fully.
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John Lovett
Yes.
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Fortune Feimster
And take photo with you also.
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John Lovett
So I had a. I had a nice skirt on because it was gay.
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Fortune Feimster
It was very gay.
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John Lovett
And they can't take that from us. Not till January 20th.
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Fortune Feimster
Well, we have now until January 19th.
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Margaret Cho
Yeah, we're going to be so gay until then.
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Fortune Feimster
And then. And then we're going to be.
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Margaret Cho
And then I'll get a husband.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah, we'll get straight. We're going to be straight.
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John Lovett
Fortune, let's make this deal. If we don't meet someone by January 21st, you'll be.
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Margaret Cho
You'll be my husband.
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Fortune Feimster
Perfect. That's perfect.
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Margaret Cho
Just don't wear that skirt. You'll get us both in trouble.
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John Lovett
It's funny. We did it another year in the books. Unfortunately, this year this book was the Necronomicon. But still, from Orcas attacking Yance to Jennifer Lopez having to cancel her tour because no one wanted to go, it was one for the ages. While there was chaos all over this great beautiful globe of ours, America in particular had a long and lengthy chapter in the book of 2024. But what will future generations remember about this very demure, very mindful time? Let's decide together as we blind rank the 10 most American moments of 2024. In a segment we're calling I Hear America Ranking.
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Margaret Cho
Cute.
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John Lovett
I am going to name an event that happened in the last calendar Year and you will blind rank it on a scale from 10 to one, with 10 being the least American and one being the most American thing that happened in this year. What does it mean to be more or less American? Well, that's up to you to decide as an American. That's the beauty of America. Could mean whatever you want it to mean, but I think there's a vibe, a gestalt to it. You know what I'm saying? Do you say gestalt or gestalt?
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Fortune Feimster
Gestalt.
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John Lovett
Gestalt.
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Fortune Feimster
Gestalt.
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John Lovett
Do you the sh like the sh like it's very German. Gestalt.
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Fortune Feimster
I don't think you have to pronounce the whole thing. I think you do. Gestalt is enough.
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John Lovett
I had a math professor that would say Einstein. Oh, it's very cool.
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Fortune Feimster
Wow.
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Margaret Cho
I love these tiny arms of mine. Look at.
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John Lovett
Raptor like.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah, it's very baby coated. You're like a Rubik.
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Margaret Cho
I'm a baby holding a flag.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
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John Lovett
First up, we have Tom Cruise skydiving into the closing ceremony of the Paris Olympics. I think we have a clip.
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Margaret Cho
Oh my God.
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John Lovett
America. Let's go.
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Margaret Cho
10'S very American.
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John Lovett
No, 10 is the least American. One is the most American.
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Margaret Cho
I would say. That's a pretty. That's one. That's.
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John Lovett
You wanna spend your one?
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Margaret Cho
Yeah. He's like, I'm so American, I'm taking over this whole event. That's very American. Like, look at me.
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John Lovett
Yeah. In a way, like the Revolutionary war was a war between England and France that we really made about ourselves.
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Margaret Cho
Yeah.
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John Lovett
You know, when you think about it.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah. But will he come out as gay on the 19th? Oh, I think we're gonna. We're all gonna reverse. I feel like this is like I totally forgot about this. And it was so unmemorable that I would say it would be 10.
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Margaret Cho
Okay, wow.
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John Lovett
Maybe we split the difference and call it a five.
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Margaret Cho
Okay, sure, let's call it a five.
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John Lovett
Let's call it a five. I'm gonna put that right here. Five. Tom Cruise not gay. Just for now, just for the lawyers. Just for the now and for the lawyers. Next up, the rise and fall of H in June. In June of this year, 22 year old Hayley Welch told a man on the street interview that men love it when you give him that hock tua and spit on that thing. Since then, Welch has launched a podcast, a data gap and a crypto coin, the value of which collapsed within hours just last week. That is some American shit. Wow.
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Margaret Cho
Yeah, that's pretty American.
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
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Margaret Cho
A rise and fall. We love a good rise and fall.
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Fortune Feimster
But the fall is so monumental because she actually scammed people out of millions of dollars.
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John Lovett
That's what it seems like, right? I don't know the details, but it seems like anyone who was stupid enough to buy that coin probably deserved it, I think.
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Fortune Feimster
Yes. Yeah.
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Margaret Cho
I give it a three.
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Fortune Feimster
It's up there. Yeah, it's up there because of the hock, too. You gotta spit on that thing and then it becoming merch right away.
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Margaret Cho
All about that.
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Fortune Feimster
Have you ever spit?
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Margaret Cho
Have you ever. I have. No, no, I'.
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Fortune Feimster
I know. We already know.
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Margaret Cho
Hawk.
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John Lovett
How do you even spell hawk To.
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Fortune Feimster
A H, A W?
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John Lovett
K. Oh, H, A W. Spell hock Tua. Hock tua. Crypto number three. Okay, next up, we have mu Dang correctly picking Donald Trump as our future president. I think a foreign pachyderm getting something right is as un American as it gets. The prediction was correct and accurate. The animal is still alive. Those are things that. That's not what we do here.
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Margaret Cho
So like a nine?
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah, I think a nine. Just because also it was news that we didn't want to hear. Because at that point, we still had so much hope.
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John Lovett
Yeah.
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Fortune Feimster
You know, we had so much. We were. We were not going back at that point.
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John Lovett
Yeah. Yeah.
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Margaret Cho
Oh, I know.
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Fortune Feimster
Remember when we weren't gonna go back.
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John Lovett
Arrogant hippo number nine. Yeah. Remember? Yeah. We weren't going back. We were. We're going back so hard.
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Fortune Feimster
We were going back never.
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John Lovett
If we are going back, our belief that we were going forward and the speed which we were going back, it's. We are like an old person who the keys should be taken away from.
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Luenell
Who.
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John Lovett
Who is just looking dead ahead, shifting the car and drive and just backing right into the house. Which is basically what Joe Biden did to the country, right? What? This is that pole vaulter's humongous wiener ruining his dreams of Olympus gold.
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Luenell
Yeah.
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John Lovett
He was French.
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Margaret Cho
Yeah.
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John Lovett
But Anthony Amarati was all of us that day when his. Hopefully his giant penis knocked the bar out of place. Yeah, we do have the clip of that pole.
- [30:27]
Luenell
Let's shoot up.
- [30:28]
John Lovett
And then.
- [30:35]
Margaret Cho
That'S a salute right there.
- [30:37]
John Lovett
Yeah. No cybertruck for that guy.
- [30:40]
Margaret Cho
That's us. All of us. Cheering on a wiener feels very American.
- [30:46]
Fortune Feimster
I think this was real. I feel like this was number one for me. You know, this was really. I was really celebrating this.
- [30:54]
Margaret Cho
You know, I just want to support Margaret and Wieners. So, yeah, why not? Let's give it number one.
- [31:02]
John Lovett
Wow. Applauding wieners. A penis or a penis. Dashing hopes. That is American.
- [31:11]
Fortune Feimster
Right?
- [31:12]
John Lovett
You're right. You're right about that. You're right about that.
- [31:15]
Margaret Cho
It's a feel good story, and we need to feel good right now.
- [31:21]
John Lovett
Right. The president of South Korea declared martial law, backtracks and then apologizes. South Korean president declares martial law for six hours only for the country's parliament to vote down his declaration because they were able to hop over the barriers because they simply weren't high enough. Then he apologized for the whole thing. I don't know. There's something. Even though obviously this took place in South Korea, it does have a vaguely American vibe.
- [31:44]
Margaret Cho
He's like, my bad.
- [31:46]
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. Like, really fast. Really fast. I mean, I really love the way that South Korea protests where they were just like, no way. No, you're not doing that.
- [31:55]
Margaret Cho
Absolutely not.
- [31:56]
Fortune Feimster
And it was so inspiring, and I hope that we can do the same.
- [31:59]
John Lovett
Yeah. Not really us on that score.
- [32:01]
Margaret Cho
Yeah.
- [32:01]
John Lovett
Maybe has to go a bit lower on that.
- [32:02]
Fortune Feimster
I know.
- [32:03]
Margaret Cho
We can't agree on anything.
- [32:04]
Fortune Feimster
I know. But this was inspiring to me because it was just like it was overnight. It was over before the morning, and it was just beautiful.
- [32:13]
Margaret Cho
So a seven hopeful. It's not very seven hopeful.
- [32:19]
John Lovett
Stopping a coup.
- [32:20]
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
- [32:22]
John Lovett
And seven. Next up, Charlie X setting the tone for 2024 presidential campaigns by tweeting, kamala is brat. Brat, I always say, brought. God, kill me.
- [32:34]
Fortune Feimster
Gestalt.
- [32:35]
John Lovett
Gestalt. Kamala is brat. Remember that? Remember when Kamala was brat? Now, now the bratz on our faces. What?
- [32:42]
Fortune Feimster
She's still brat. I still love her. I'm still grateful for what she did, and I'm just. I hope that she makes a lot of money on the speaker circuit. I think she's doing great.
- [32:51]
Margaret Cho
Get that money.
- [32:52]
Fortune Feimster
I love her. Doesn't change, you know, doesn't change how I feel about her after what happened. It wasn't her fault that we have a really racist, misogynist country and people are unwilling to look at that, but she is brat, and I love it too.
- [33:08]
Margaret Cho
And what is brat?
- [33:10]
Fortune Feimster
Brat is. It's an attitude. It's a lifestyle. It's like when you go out with no panties on. That's brat. But also.
- [33:19]
John Lovett
So I'm brat right now.
- [33:20]
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
- [33:21]
Margaret Cho
Right? It's brat outside with no panties on.
- [33:27]
John Lovett
Yeah, I know.
- [33:29]
Fortune Feimster
But also could really meaningfully and well lead a country.
- [33:35]
Margaret Cho
Yeah. With no panties on.
- [33:37]
Fortune Feimster
You know, or with panties. But with panties. But also with compassion.
- [33:40]
Margaret Cho
Okay. Is that American compassion?
- [33:44]
John Lovett
I think. Feels like a six to me at best.
- [33:47]
Margaret Cho
I guess so.
- [33:47]
John Lovett
Yeah.
- [33:48]
Fortune Feimster
Six.
- [33:48]
John Lovett
Six. Kamala is Bratch. What a time that was. Taylor Swift. At any point during the year, for any reason, subcategories could be Travis Kelsey. The ongoing romance, Tortured Poets Department. The Errors tour being the biggest tour of all time, making $2 billion.
- [34:10]
Margaret Cho
Wow.
- [34:11]
Fortune Feimster
And also that she gave $159 billion to her workers, people who were driving, people who were taking care of everything behind the SC to make this tour so successful. Like she is a billionaire that gives back, which is such a great example.
- [34:29]
Margaret Cho
That's rare.
- [34:30]
John Lovett
Yeah. And not very American. The making $2 billion off of your fans does feel America. I finding ways to monetize every high up there. I think so, too. Under two.
- [34:41]
Fortune Feimster
Let's do two.
- [34:42]
Margaret Cho
Yeah.
- [34:43]
John Lovett
Taylor.
- [34:44]
Margaret Cho
She probably beats the wiener, but we all have wieners, so we're going to erase it.
- [34:53]
John Lovett
Next up, we have New York, Washington Square park welcoming the first annual Timothee Chalamet Celebrity Lookalike Contest.
- [35:04]
Fortune Feimster
I love this. I love that. The lookalike content. They also had one for Dev Patel, and then they had one for, before we knew his name, Luigi Mangione, which.
- [35:13]
Margaret Cho
They'Ve had a lot of them. Harriet Styles.
- [35:15]
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
- [35:15]
Margaret Cho
Glenn Powell, Ethan Slater.
- [35:17]
John Lovett
Here's the thing. There's no governing body for these lookalike contests. There's no organizing. There's no league. There's no controls. Like anyone could just. Anyone can make. You could do a lookalike contest anytime you want. There's no one in charge of this. I don't think the judging is particularly fair.
- [35:32]
Luenell
Yeah.
- [35:33]
Margaret Cho
You just gather outside of a coffee shop in Brooklyn and vote. Right?
- [35:38]
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
- [35:39]
Margaret Cho
Yeah, I know.
- [35:41]
Fortune Feimster
I wish that was America. That's true.
- [35:43]
Margaret Cho
Yeah. Yeah.
- [35:44]
Fortune Feimster
If only. If only. I like it. I like the anarchy of it, but also the hilarity of it. I think it's. I think it's great. I would say four.
- [35:52]
John Lovett
Okay.
- [35:53]
Margaret Cho
Okay.
- [35:53]
John Lovett
Four. Timmy.
- [35:57]
Margaret Cho
Timmy Lookalike.
- [36:01]
John Lovett
Bunch of twinks in Washington Square Park. Next up, our taste buds getting blown out by Oreo flavored Coke and Coke flavored Oreos. This should have gone higher. This should have gone higher. We blew it. We blew it. We only have eight left.
- [36:14]
Margaret Cho
That's pretty American, though.
- [36:15]
John Lovett
I know. I know. We only have 8. 8 or 10.
- [36:19]
Margaret Cho
Sugar on sugar on sugar.
- [36:21]
Fortune Feimster
I think this is. This is an eight.
- [36:23]
John Lovett
It's got to be an eight.
- [36:24]
Fortune Feimster
As high as we could go. I mean, this is ridiculous.
- [36:27]
Margaret Cho
But I mean.
- [36:27]
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
- [36:28]
John Lovett
Yeah. Honestly, I think it's more American than a French penis.
- [36:32]
Margaret Cho
That's true. It's like, let's be Unhealthy.
- [36:36]
John Lovett
What can you do?
- [36:37]
Margaret Cho
Enjoy that before rfk.
- [36:42]
Fortune Feimster
He's going to get rid of it.
- [36:43]
John Lovett
Yeah, basically. Basically. Any. Anyone gay out there? Just. If you're gay and you like disgusting Oreos, this is your rum spring. You got three weeks. Go to fucking town. It's just. It's just Oreos. And zero as much as you can till the inauguration. That's all.
- [37:02]
Fortune Feimster
Just get as much cream filling in you as you can.
- [37:05]
John Lovett
Yes.
- [37:07]
Margaret Cho
Get it.
- [37:09]
Fortune Feimster
Double stuff.
- [37:10]
John Lovett
Come on, come on, come on. Huh? Fucking. The best. All right, all right, next up, and finally, this interview from Wicked's press tour. I've seen this week, people are taking the lyrics of defying gravity and really holding space with that and feeling power in that.
- [37:32]
Margaret Cho
I didn't know that that was happening.
- [37:34]
John Lovett
I've seen it. Yeah, that's really powerful.
- [37:40]
Margaret Cho
That's why I wanted. Mm.
- [37:42]
John Lovett
Yeah.
- [37:43]
Margaret Cho
Tap, tap, tap, tap.
- [37:46]
John Lovett
Happening. I've seen it on a couple posts. I don't know how you know.
- [37:50]
Margaret Cho
I am.
- [37:51]
John Lovett
All right. We can't take any more, man. Did you talk. I talked to her last night.
- [37:55]
Fortune Feimster
I talked to her last night.
- [37:56]
Margaret Cho
First of all, she's amazing.
- [37:57]
John Lovett
She's very cool. She was wandering around the out 100 like the fucking Pope.
- [38:01]
Margaret Cho
Like, she got like a Mac Beauty commercial.
- [38:04]
John Lovett
I know. It's awesome. It's awesome. Yeah. I wish we could move it higher.
- [38:08]
Margaret Cho
I know how.
- [38:09]
John Lovett
Especially now she's making bank on us.
- [38:10]
Margaret Cho
Right.
- [38:11]
Fortune Feimster
But she's very impactful, so I'm grateful for that.
- [38:13]
John Lovett
We like that. We like that.
- [38:15]
Margaret Cho
I mean, she's the least American. Just because we run out of space.
- [38:19]
John Lovett
Holding space, but holding. Which. Because we didn't hold space. But we didn't hold space for holding space. Wow. Well, these are our final rankings. We have 10 holding space. We have nine. That arrogant fucking hippo. We have eight Oreos that taste like Coke and Cokes that taste like Oreos. We have seven. Stopping a coup. Six, Kamala is brat. Five, Tom Cruise is not gay, but he is at the Olympics. Four, The Timothee Chalamet Lookalike Contest. Three, Hock Tua. The Boom and bust, the rise and fall, which sort of actually, when you think about it, tracks from her original thing.
- [39:01]
Fortune Feimster
Right, right.
- [39:02]
John Lovett
You know, talking about penises. And two, oh, Taylor making $2 billion but not giving 150 of it away. Because that's not American.
- [39:12]
Fortune Feimster
No, but that's very.
- [39:13]
John Lovett
But it's good.
- [39:14]
Fortune Feimster
It's a good. It's where we want America to go.
- [39:16]
John Lovett
Yeah. And then one. A penis being applauded. For dashing a French man's dreams.
- [39:23]
Margaret Cho
Yeah.
- [39:27]
John Lovett
Now, before you. Before. Before we move on. So, Margaret, you have a single out now, and you have an album out or coming? An album that's coming.
- [39:35]
Fortune Feimster
That's right. I have a single out. It's called Lucky Gift. And I have an album coming out on February 14th called Lucky Gift, and it's songs that I've been writing for the last 10 years. So it's very exciting. It's like, what do comedians do when we sing and play music, but it's not necessarily comedy music. It's like real. It's like real, actual music.
- [39:57]
John Lovett
I don't think people know that you record music.
- [39:58]
Fortune Feimster
I'm a singer and I'm multi instrumentalist, so. Yes. So I. I make this record and I'm very proud of it.
- [40:07]
John Lovett
That's so cool. Yeah. I sometimes sing, but to myself. I was realizing that I can only sing songs from Wicked, as either Hugh Jackman or Russell Crow from Les Mis.
- [40:19]
Margaret Cho
Oh.
- [40:20]
John Lovett
So the only way that I can really get it together is. Something has changed within me.
- [40:28]
Fortune Feimster
That was good.
- [40:29]
John Lovett
That kind of a thing.
- [40:30]
Margaret Cho
That was really good.
- [40:31]
John Lovett
Something is not the same. More. Yeah. Obviously the theater. Every part of me wants to sing more. Fortune, your new special. It's so funny.
- [40:45]
Margaret Cho
Oh, thank you. Yeah. Crushing it on Netflix came out very recently and I'm super proud of it. Wore pink suit, so, yeah, check it out.
- [40:58]
John Lovett
People loved it.
- [40:59]
Margaret Cho
Thank you.
- [41:01]
John Lovett
Thank you to Margaret and Fortune. Stream Margaret's new single, Lucky Gift. Now check out Fortune special Crushing it on Netflix. Next up, it's Lunell Show. Now.
- [41:08]
Margaret Cho
Oh, yeah.
- [41:13]
John Lovett
And we're back. Please welcome to the stage the real host of Lover To Leave It, It's Lunel.
- [41:27]
Luenell
Hi.
- [41:27]
John Lovett
Hi.
- [41:28]
Luenell
Next to you, wherever you want. Do we really need this mic? Is only 60 of us.
- [41:32]
John Lovett
Well, it's for the pod. It's for the podcast.
- [41:33]
Luenell
Oh, that part. Hello.
- [41:34]
John Lovett
Hello. It's. It is. You're right. It is a. It's a. It's a. It's an intimate venue.
- [41:41]
Luenell
Yes, that's lovely.
- [41:43]
John Lovett
But. It's a. But as you know, even though on some level I don't believe, even though this is your third appearance, you yet know what this is.
- [41:50]
Luenell
I don't care. I just like to hang out with you. Can I explain what it took for me to be here today? Please, Ladies and gentlemen, I got accidentally drunk last night. No, I wasn't supposed to get drunk. I went. My daughter and I went and met with my friend, actor Ving Rhames, and his lady friend, who I introduced him to. And we went to Vibrato last night. Very Herb Alpert's club. Very jazzy, Beverly Glenn, very posh. So I go up there, and I'm gonna be cutesy, demure, mindful. And I just eat the clam chowder and the salad. Well, I should have had more food. Number one. I knocked back three vodka grapefruits, and that was fine. Me and my daughter get in the car, we smoke a joint. Where should we go now? Let's go to the Four Seasons. Go to the Four Seasons, knock back a couple more drinks.
- [42:57]
John Lovett
And how's the clam chowder there?
- [43:02]
Luenell
I didn't have any clam chowder in the Four Seasons, but the clam chowder vibrato was pretty good. So I have a couple of drinks, meet some guys, they buy some more drinks, right? So I get fucked up. I'm not driving. I don't care. I go home, lay down. Then I wake up this morning and I throw on my clothes. I am brat, by the way.
- [43:23]
John Lovett
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
- [43:27]
Luenell
I go to the fucking nail shop with my toes and my nails done. Then I go to the fucking dentist, sleep in the chair, snoring in her face, mouth open, go to the dentist, get my teeth cleaned. Then I go to get a mammogram, leave. Leave my bra at the hospital. And I'm still hungover from fucking last night, so I'm literally drunk. And I have a no bra, no panties, no lipstick, no makeup. I usually am cuter than this when I come to see you.
- [44:08]
John Lovett
I'm sorry, you're straight from a mammogram to this event.
- [44:13]
Luenell
And left my bra. I'm drunk, y'all. I'm sorry.
- [44:20]
John Lovett
Well, I think. Look, on a day when you have to go to the dentist and get a mammogram, why not be a little bit drunk?
- [44:24]
Luenell
Well, only thing left is a colonoscopy, and I'll be set.
- [44:29]
John Lovett
It'd be great if they could do this at the same time. A drunk mammogram and colonoscopy at the same time? It's like, buy me dinner first.
- [44:36]
Luenell
I wouldn't matter.
- [44:38]
John Lovett
No high five for me.
- [44:43]
Luenell
Okay. What's going on?
- [44:45]
John Lovett
Okay, now it's the end of the year. I have no takes left. But I know that you do, which is why we're gonna ask you about the hottest headlines of the week in a segment we're calling Lou. Nailed it. Oh, look at us. Look at us together.
- [45:03]
Luenell
We're cute. That's not me. No, it's just your that's just my head. I don't wear no shit like that.
- [45:10]
John Lovett
No, it's just. It's just our body. It's not our bodies. It's not our bodies. That's not my body either. That's just our faces.
- [45:16]
Luenell
I'm like, it looks like my mother's shirt. What the fuck is that shit? And my titties are bigger than that, too, so.
- [45:25]
John Lovett
Honestly. So are mine. This week, United Healthcare CEO, murderer, and postmodern heartthrob fuck, Luigi Mangione was arrested at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Luna, what is your McDonald's order?
- [45:40]
Luenell
Egg McMuffin sausage, egg McMuffin with jelly, extra hash brown.
- [45:48]
John Lovett
Wow.
- [45:49]
Luenell
That's all I eat at McDonald's. That and a fish.
- [45:52]
John Lovett
Are you a fish fillet person?
- [45:54]
Luenell
I don't know what the fuck that really is, but you like it, too, Kennedy.
- [45:58]
John Lovett
Kennedy, you're a fish fillet person.
- [46:00]
Margaret Cho
I am a fish fillet person.
- [46:01]
John Lovett
Wow. You never know who's going to be a fish filet person.
- [46:04]
Luenell
You never know.
- [46:05]
John Lovett
You never know who's going to be. Is it because of Lent? Is it a Catholic thing?
- [46:08]
Luenell
It's not even real fish, babe.
- [46:10]
John Lovett
I know, I know.
- [46:11]
Luenell
It just looks like fish. It does, so I'll take it. It's not real fish. It's not fish, babe. It's not.
- [46:21]
John Lovett
It's not fish, babe. It's not fish. They put a slice of American cheese on there.
- [46:24]
Luenell
Yeah, that's what kicks it, that fucking cheese. And you gotta get extra tartar sauce so that bitch just slides out the bun.
- [46:37]
John Lovett
You.
- [46:37]
Luenell
You eat your. You eat your fish your way. I'll eat my fish my way.
- [46:45]
John Lovett
Sometimes on my way to work, I will go to McDonald's drive thru and I'll get a McDouble and I'll say, no ketchup, no mustard, because then you can safely eat it while driving without fear.
- [46:55]
Luenell
Yeah.
- [46:58]
John Lovett
Yeah, that's. I know, I know.
- [46:59]
Luenell
I'm a sauce girl. I gotta have sauces. Yeah, I'm a. I'm a dipper. All that shit.
- [47:04]
John Lovett
Okay. What's your dipping sauce for McNuggets?
- [47:07]
Luenell
I don't eat McNuggets. I only eat fucking two things. I told you.
- [47:10]
John Lovett
Sorry. I just. I thought once. You're right. I know. I imagine that maybe that.
- [47:16]
Luenell
Are we in the same room?
- [47:17]
John Lovett
Are you kidding me? I listened. I know that that's what you said. I thought maybe occasionally you dabble in.
- [47:23]
Luenell
A big nugget because that's not real chicken neither.
- [47:26]
John Lovett
Oh, okay. Michael Pollan over here. Oprah. Oprah officially relaunched her book club on her new podcast, the Oprah Podcast, with the novel Small Things like these from Irish author Claire Keegan. You going to read the Oprah books?
- [47:44]
Luenell
I'm waiting to see if Oprah show up on any of these Diddy tapes. Before I go any further, I read that motherfucking book. That's the book I want to read.
- [48:00]
John Lovett
Well, before we get drone strike from Mendocino, we just want to be clear there's no evidence of that.
- [48:07]
Luenell
Yet.
- [48:08]
John Lovett
Yeah. Do you think we should blame Oprah for giving a platform to people like Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz?
- [48:15]
Luenell
What's wrong with Dr. Phil and Dr.
- [48:17]
John Lovett
Oz, I knew it. I knew it. Oh, they don't like him. They don't like, well, Dr. Oz. Cause now he's gonna be. What did they give him? Social Security Administration? He's very Republican now. Oh, he's very. And Dr. Phil. Dr. Phil.
- [48:28]
Luenell
Is he. That's unfortunate. Wisconsin, they didn't get that way until I got all that motherfucking money.
- [48:36]
John Lovett
Well, yeah.
- [48:37]
Luenell
Yeah, they want to be in the tax bracket.
- [48:39]
John Lovett
Isn't that the story? Wisconsin husband and father of three, Ryan Borgward, faked his own death. He faked his own death in a pretend kayak singing accident earlier this year. He was Borgwar doesn't let me. That's his name. Borgward Bourguart.
- [48:56]
Luenell
Is that a real name?
- [48:57]
John Lovett
It is. It is. It is. If you had to fake your own death, how would you do it?
- [49:03]
Luenell
I think I did it last night. After fucking four seasons. I think I faked my own death last night.
- [49:15]
John Lovett
What a night. Just a Wednesday.
- [49:17]
Luenell
I'm so wasted right now. No, no, because you know, if you don't sleep and get. And sleep, you're drunk out. If you wake up too soon, you're still drunk, and that's me. And then water don't help. It's supposed to help. It makes you drunk again. I'm not. I need to go. I'm going to bed. Then I had to come. Fucking Silver Lake and these. No, because I forgot that we're not at the theater no more. And I'm like, o, what the fuck? I thought my GPS was fucking with me. And I'm like, wait, Hyperion this way. And I'm driving around, you know, I had to come from Beverly Hills for the mammogram. So I come to Wilshire, it turns into fucking whatever the fuck street. And I'm driving, driving, driving. And it's a rush hour. Plus, I don't drive. I'm not fucking LL Cool J. I don't drive at night with sunglasses on, but I had these on earlier, and I never got back home to get my nighttime glasses, which is just as good because my eyes are fucking bloodshot anyway, so I hope I make it home. I might have to get a room.
- [50:20]
John Lovett
Okay, well, let's make sure. Hey, we're gonna make sure Luenell gets home. All right? We'll take care of it. Take care of it, New Jersey.
- [50:33]
Luenell
Hey, maybe I would come to your house. Wouldn't that be a guess?
- [50:36]
John Lovett
You're welcome. You're welcome.
- [50:37]
Luenell
Wake up next to me, baby.
- [50:39]
John Lovett
Yeah. I mean, well, yeah, or the guest room, whatever. But the. Yeah, same bed. Two beds. Whatever you want. Whatever makes you feel comfortable.
- [50:51]
Luenell
Twinsies.
- [50:51]
John Lovett
Twinsies, Twinsies. Bed. Twinsies. We will sleep. We'll sleep. Back to back, head to foot. What do you think?
- [50:56]
Luenell
I'm spooning, motherfucker.
- [50:58]
John Lovett
Are you big spoon or little spoon?
- [51:00]
Luenell
I'm the big spoon. I'm in titties in your back. That's what it is.
- [51:04]
John Lovett
Wow. That's exciting. That's exciting. That's exciting.
- [51:09]
Luenell
I know a lot of people would like to be in that position.
- [51:11]
John Lovett
No, I know, I know, I know, I know. All right, all right, all right. And you know what that sound means. It's time for the White Hot White Man Lightning Round.
- [51:23]
Luenell
Why am I in this?
- [51:26]
John Lovett
It's because Fortune.
- [51:32]
Margaret Cho
What?
- [51:32]
John Lovett
No, I. We wanted you to.
- [51:41]
Luenell
Never mind. Fortune. Go. It's okay, girl. It's okay.
- [51:46]
John Lovett
All right, Fortune say you have to stay.
- [51:48]
Luenell
Now. Right on fucking time.
- [51:50]
Margaret Cho
All right.
- [51:53]
John Lovett
Fortune, you're joining. Basically, here's. It's a Lightning Round segment where we're going to show you a white man, and you'll have to decide if they're hot and if they're good or evil.
- [52:03]
Margaret Cho
Oh, good.
- [52:04]
John Lovett
Next up, my specialty.
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Luenell
Yeah, mine, too.
- [52:09]
John Lovett
First up, we have Andrew Garfield.
- [52:11]
Margaret Cho
You can't say who it is.
- [52:13]
John Lovett
Oh, fuck. Most recently appearing in the romantic comedy We Live In Time with Florence Pugh. It's actor. Oh, am I supposed to say who it is?
- [52:23]
Margaret Cho
You just say, first up.
- [52:24]
John Lovett
Oh, yeah.
- [52:27]
Luenell
We'Re calling reinforcements.
- [52:30]
John Lovett
Oh, yes. Okay, I remember. And then he could do the rest. Okay, you're right, I remember.
- [52:33]
Luenell
Did you just have to say if he's hot or not?
- [52:36]
John Lovett
Yeah. I mean, here's. Sorry, guys. I. I got pretty drunk last night and I had.
- [52:40]
Luenell
Oh, are you with me?
- [52:41]
John Lovett
I had an endoscopy. They got me. They got me coming and going. All right, first up is this man White hot. And do you think he's good or evil?
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Luenell
I think he's fucking hot.
- [52:53]
Margaret Cho
Yeah, hot.
- [52:54]
Luenell
And I hope he's evil because that makes him a little hot.
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John Lovett
Er, we think he's probably good. Here he is explaining grief to Elmo on Sesame street.
- [53:06]
Margaret Cho
Aw.
- [53:06]
John Lovett
You know, Elmo always feels really sad.
- [53:08]
Luenell
When he misses somebody.
- [53:10]
Margaret Cho
Oh, yeah, me too. Me too. But you know, that sadness, it's kind of a gift. It's kind of a lovely thing to feel.
- [53:18]
John Lovett
Oh, wow.
- [53:19]
Margaret Cho
But a freak in the sheets, am I right?
- [53:27]
John Lovett
Next up, is this white man hot, and do you think he's good or evil?
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Luenell
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. That's little Ted Bundy. And not fucking with him. Not hot. Very evil.
- [53:44]
John Lovett
Yeah, I agree.
- [53:45]
Margaret Cho
Yeah, he's evil if I didn't know what he did.
- [53:51]
Luenell
No, but that's how. But that's how he got to bitches because he looks so normal.
- [53:58]
Margaret Cho
Yeah, but he's mean. He's mean.
- [54:01]
John Lovett
Interesting.
- [54:02]
Luenell
Killer.
- [54:03]
John Lovett
Next up, is this man hot and do you think he's good or evil?
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Luenell
Not hot. And I don't give a fuck if he's.
- [54:18]
John Lovett
Fortune.
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Luenell
I don't.
- [54:21]
Margaret Cho
Who is this?
- [54:22]
John Lovett
Oh, it's pope John Paul ii. Second. Wow. We got real papists on the ones and twos. Just assuming he's good. Yeah, he's real.
- [54:34]
Luenell
That don't mean he good. Fair point. You know, there's a lot of not good going Catholic church.
- [54:41]
John Lovett
So that's a. So that's one to take home and think about.
- [54:43]
Margaret Cho
Yeah, everyone think about that.
- [54:44]
John Lovett
We're gonna all think about that one. Next up, are these men hot and are they good or evil?
- [54:53]
Margaret Cho
Lanell, would you hit it?
- [54:55]
Luenell
That one. The curly haired one.
- [54:59]
Margaret Cho
Okay.
- [55:01]
Luenell
But not the bald headed one.
- [55:04]
John Lovett
Oh. Cause that's a wig. That's a wig.
- [55:05]
Luenell
I know it's a wig.
- [55:07]
John Lovett
Wow, that is a wig. That is a wig.
- [55:09]
Margaret Cho
Peppa likes the bald headed one.
- [55:12]
Luenell
Oh, she does?
- [55:12]
Margaret Cho
Yeah, you remember that?
- [55:13]
Luenell
Which one?
- [55:15]
Margaret Cho
That shoop sock. Not you. The bald headed one.
- [55:18]
Luenell
Yeah, no, I know the song, unfortunately. I know who Salt and pepper are. Moving on because. Okay, so do you think they should fucking get out?
- [55:37]
Margaret Cho
Oh. Oh, wow. We have.
- [55:39]
Luenell
Hold on, sis.
- [55:42]
Margaret Cho
A house divided.
- [55:44]
Luenell
Hold on. If they. Okay, they murdered their parents and. Hold on. God damn it. They murdered their parents in the most brutal way. I understand you've been sexually dying. Your daddy and your mama let it happen, okay? They didn't grieve for a fucking minute. They went and bought rolexes. They got bitches. They got hotels. They bought sports cars. No, no. They where the fuck they need to be. And that's where the fuck they need to be.
- [56:17]
John Lovett
Wow. Yeah. Each. Shit. You Gasconites.
- [56:22]
Margaret Cho
Thank you guys for calling me out here.
- [56:27]
John Lovett
Next up, is this person hot and good or evil?
- [56:33]
Margaret Cho
I think he's hot.
- [56:34]
John Lovett
He's cute. I think he's cute. Come on. He's cute.
- [56:37]
Margaret Cho
You guys. He sings so good.
- [56:40]
John Lovett
He's cute.
- [56:41]
Margaret Cho
Yeah.
- [56:44]
Luenell
No, I'm not with it. Him, Carrot Top, all them gingers. I don't. Wow. I don't fuck around.
- [56:53]
Margaret Cho
Wow.
- [56:54]
Luenell
He's weird looking. I'm sorry.
- [56:58]
John Lovett
She's sorry. You can't handle the truth.
- [57:02]
Luenell
Can handle.
- [57:04]
Margaret Cho
I like him. I like him.
- [57:05]
John Lovett
Me too. Me too. I think he's gay.
- [57:06]
Luenell
So what do you know about men?
- [57:10]
Margaret Cho
Oh, lanell, the stories I could tell.
- [57:14]
Luenell
Listen and don't talk to me about my 70s and the 70s, bitch. You know any.
- [57:19]
John Lovett
Any redheads? Then, yeah.
- [57:23]
Luenell
Jeff Gianoni, if you're out there anywhere. I still love you, baby. Wow. We went to school together. He was a ginger. And he's fine. He grows to be fine as fuck and grow up to be a fireman. And I love. I love. I love firemen. Oh, fuck. I love firemen. It's a fetish.
- [57:42]
Margaret Cho
What if one of the Menendez brothers had been a fireman?
- [57:49]
John Lovett
All right, let's leave it there. Thank you, Fortune, for jumping in.
- [57:55]
Luenell
They're not.
- [57:57]
John Lovett
They're not. Thank you to Luenell. Luenell is heading to Oakland's paramount theater on December 27th. And it's a show you don't wanna miss. When we're back. It's the season for ranting.
- [58:05]
Luenell
But that ain't what I wanna talk about.
- [58:06]
John Lovett
What do you wanna talk about?
- [58:07]
Luenell
I have a residency in Las Vegas.
- [58:12]
John Lovett
I'm coming.
- [58:12]
Luenell
I've been coming for five years at Jimmy Kimmel's Comedy Club every Sunday and Monday night at 9:30. But I'm taking January, February off. Cause Mama needs some rest. Chris.
- [58:22]
John Lovett
All right. I'm going to see you in March. I'm going to see you in March.
- [58:25]
Luenell
Okay.
- [58:26]
John Lovett
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- [60:50]
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All right.
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- [61:37]
Luenell
I want to come back when you make the changes.
- [61:39]
John Lovett
Yeah, you.
- [61:42]
Luenell
Yeah. Make some changes.
- [61:47]
John Lovett
All right. Now I feel like my tits and a vice. All right, so that's a mammogram joke. I got it. So head to cricket.com events to see the show to grab tickets for the live show. And you can see all the vaguely cancelable stuff we edit out. All right. Also, oh, my God, there's so much promotion.
- [62:07]
Luenell
You're good, baby. Cause my mouth is beating.
- [62:09]
Margaret Cho
I just realized the salt and Peppa song's not bald headed one. It's bow legged one one. Right. Anyway, I'm glad I got that in.
- [62:20]
Luenell
Someone. What's the lyric for?
- [62:22]
Margaret Cho
Is it bald headed or bow legged? It's bow legged. All right. Thank you. I could not rest until we got that out, clearly.
- [62:31]
John Lovett
Thank you for. Thank you for sharing that and feeling and making salt and pepper.
- [62:36]
Luenell
Thanks.
- [62:36]
Margaret Cho
Thank you for holding space for me.
- [62:38]
John Lovett
To correct myself and just said this was at the end of a promo for our YouTube page. Go to crooked.com videos. All right. Please welcome Margaret Cho back to the stage.
- [62:47]
Luenell
Yeah, Margaret.
- [62:55]
John Lovett
The holidays are here. And despite what every $7 Hallmark card would have you believe, not all of us merry and bright to vent all of our frustrations with travel and the family and the eggnog that you try every year, even though you know you hate it. We're playing a special holiday edition of the Rant Wheel. Margaret Fortune Linnell, are you ready?
- [63:09]
Margaret Cho
Yeah.
- [63:10]
Luenell
Yeah.
- [63:11]
John Lovett
To the wheel.
- [63:17]
Luenell
Look at me on the wheel.
- [63:19]
Fortune Feimster
You look cute.
- [63:21]
John Lovett
It has landed on Lue. Now, what's something you want to rant about about the holidays?
- [63:27]
Luenell
Houseguests are overrated because there's so much shit that you have to put back together when they leave the fucking towels, the fucking sheets and all the dishes and people want to help and then they put shit and you don't know where the fuck it is. What happened to my. This. Well, this doesn't go there and all that kind of stuff. And people leave shit and then they want you to mail it to them and all that shit. I had a bunch of house guests for Thanksgiving. It was great. Until it wasn't. Yeah, yeah.
- [64:03]
Margaret Cho
Hear, hear.
- [64:04]
John Lovett
Yeah, because they all listen. I loved every moment that my family was in town for Thanksgiving and wouldn't trade any second of it. I wish it had been longer.
- [64:13]
Luenell
Why don't my family come to your motherfucking house next Thanksgiving? We'll see what you say after that.
- [64:19]
John Lovett
Honestly.
- [64:20]
Luenell
Yeah.
- [64:20]
John Lovett
That's a fun Thanksgiving. That's a fun Thanksgiving.
- [64:23]
Luenell
You would love it. The food is better than yours.
- [64:26]
John Lovett
Ok. I mean, it's probably true, but it's still a cruel thing to do.
- [64:34]
Luenell
You have ambrosia.
- [64:36]
John Lovett
We don't.
- [64:36]
Luenell
We Ambrosia.
- [64:39]
Fortune Feimster
Ambrosia.
- [64:40]
Luenell
I eat that fucking shit.
- [64:42]
John Lovett
I don't.
- [64:43]
Luenell
No, I know. Nobody eats that shit. Do you? No.
- [64:48]
Fortune Feimster
Ambrosia. Have you ever had Watergate salad?
- [64:51]
Luenell
Watergate?
- [64:52]
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, Watergate salad. It's like pistachio pudding mix with almonds and marshmallow.
- [64:58]
Luenell
Oh, no, honey, I don't do marshmallows. Anyway.
- [65:01]
Fortune Feimster
Oh, and canned pineapple.
- [65:03]
Luenell
Oh, no, thank you.
- [65:04]
Fortune Feimster
It's like a kind of a weird bastard cousin of ambrosia. It's like so nasty.
- [65:09]
Luenell
If anything can be worse than ambrosia, I don't.
- [65:12]
Fortune Feimster
It's so weird.
- [65:14]
Luenell
That's not serious.
- [65:15]
Fortune Feimster
White people just make weird food.
- [65:18]
Luenell
Yeah, we had fruit. We had fruitcake. And that was some kind of slave delicacy. Bullshit.
- [65:25]
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [65:27]
Luenell
I don't fuck with either.
- [65:28]
Fortune Feimster
No, no. Good.
- [65:30]
Luenell
Yeah. Next.
- [65:32]
John Lovett
Let's spin it again. Next.
- [65:40]
Luenell
Margaret.
- [65:42]
John Lovett
Landed on Margaret.
- [65:42]
Fortune Feimster
Okay, well, this is not exactly holiday related, but the Menendez defense did not include the fact that they were relentlessly abused by their father, sexually and otherwise for. For their entire lives.
- [65:56]
Luenell
Yes.
- [65:56]
Fortune Feimster
So the fact is they did not get a free fair trial initially. That's my argument with it. So. And they have served their time. But if they had properly. Had the evidence had been properly disclosed, then I think, you know, whatever would have happened, it would have been fair. But they did not have a fair trial. So no matter what they did, they.
- [66:15]
Luenell
Were not fairly crying a fucking river for every black person who has not had a fair trial. Locked the fuck up.
- [66:22]
Fortune Feimster
Well, that needs to be rectified as well. It's a problem with our justice system.
- [66:25]
Luenell
About the rich motherfuckers shooting their mom in the motherfucking face.
- [66:29]
John Lovett
I don't care.
- [66:29]
Luenell
They could have got in their Maserati.
- [66:31]
Fortune Feimster
And ran away no, you're right. You're right. But also, the entire justice system is flawed. Well, truly, it takes so long for.
- [66:39]
Luenell
It to be rectified as a formerly incarcerated bitch. I know about this.
- [66:44]
Fortune Feimster
Of course. Of course.
- [66:45]
Margaret Cho
I'm just here to listen and learn.
- [66:57]
Luenell
Quit being such a fucking goody Goody fortune.
- [67:01]
John Lovett
All right, let's. Let's spin it. Do you want to do your holiday one?
- [67:05]
Fortune Feimster
Oh, I don't like eggnog.
- [67:06]
John Lovett
Oh, you don't like eggnog?
- [67:09]
Luenell
Pennsylvania Dutch has a good one, though.
- [67:11]
Fortune Feimster
Is it good?
- [67:12]
Luenell
Okay. Fortune.
- [67:13]
John Lovett
Fortune. Year round.
- [67:13]
Margaret Cho
Oh, man, the holidays. Ugh. So we're ranting about what we don't like about the holidays.
- [67:21]
John Lovett
If you'd like. Or you can choose something you do like about the holidays. You do whatever you want.
- [67:24]
Luenell
That's not what we're playing.
- [67:25]
Margaret Cho
But I gotta. I gotta.
- [67:27]
Luenell
No, not about something.
- [67:29]
Margaret Cho
I don't like having to buy presents on particular. Like, for particular reasons on a particular day, including the holidays. If I see something that I know someone will like at some point, I just want to get it then, but I want to feel obliged to buy it on a day. So that's my rant.
- [67:53]
Luenell
I still want a fucking present on that day.
- [67:56]
Margaret Cho
All right?
- [67:59]
Luenell
Period.
- [68:00]
John Lovett
You two are on the opposite sides of so many.
- [68:02]
Luenell
Well, we love each other. We all cool. We all friends. We've been friends a long time. All of us.
- [68:08]
Margaret Cho
We have known each other a long time.
- [68:10]
Luenell
No Valley Ministry.
- [68:11]
Margaret Cho
Everyone hold each other.
- [68:12]
Fortune Feimster
We've known each other since the end.
- [68:14]
John Lovett
Yeah.
- [68:14]
Margaret Cho
Hold each other.
- [68:15]
Luenell
Thank you.
- [68:16]
Margaret Cho
Yeah.
- [68:17]
Fortune Feimster
We're holding space for our friendship, even though we have different opinions about things.
- [68:20]
Luenell
What I love, for sure.
- [68:21]
John Lovett
What I love. I was thinking about this show and just about how unpredictable that you're three incredible comedians and so different from each other. I don't think we've ever had three people as good or as different as the three of you on this stage at the same time. It was very exciting.
- [68:40]
Fortune Feimster
That's so nice.
- [68:41]
John Lovett
So excited. So fun. So fun to be. I feel like a guest.
- [68:45]
Luenell
I feel like.
- [68:54]
John Lovett
You'Re right. I should have said woman comedian.
- [68:56]
Luenell
See that? They don't say the same.
- [68:59]
John Lovett
I missed the. I forgot. You're right. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Let's spit it again.
- [69:03]
Luenell
Let's have to fight every day of our lives.
- [69:11]
John Lovett
So here's my humble request. Hey, Mages.
- [69:15]
Luenell
Stop on you. Who's the other black girl over there? No, that's you. Who's that? MC Light.
- [69:26]
John Lovett
It's a different. It's a different person. Here's my humble request. Presents. Great. We love them. They should not need to be wrapped. It's nice. It's a bonus. No wrapping. It's stupid. It's stupid. What are we doing? Doing? What are we doing? Why are we. Takes away from what? The 10 seconds between seeing it and opening it.
- [69:44]
Luenell
But then you look under the tree and you know what everything is before you.
- [69:48]
John Lovett
Jewish, no tree. Never seen a tree. Put them if you want to hide. If you want to hide where the presents are, put them in a bag or put them in a closet. You can walk them from another place. All wrapping does. It's not about humbug thing. Love the gifts, love the whole idea. It is a bit of packaging that exists for one stupid moment from before the box is in your line of sight until the moment after you have opened it. It's a wonderful. Like Harry Potter, a wonderful thing for children. Weird for adults to obsess about. Wrap the gifts for kids. For children, great for adults. A shopping bag or a door is a great way to hide what you're getting. And then you say, I got you something wonderful. Here it is. They're fucking headphones. You can tell because headphones on the box.
- [70:41]
Luenell
If you get a new car. If you get a new car, you don't want a bow on it.
- [70:47]
John Lovett
Okay, if I get a new car, put a fucking bow on it.
- [70:50]
Luenell
But what I want to know is what was the applause about from the Jewish community about no tree, no gifts. What is that? I'm not Jewish at. Understand?
- [71:00]
John Lovett
We're tired of the Christmas. We're tired of the Christmas hegemony, the Christmas at my office. And fortune has to go at my office. At my office on before Thanksgiving, they had become a Christmas fucking wonderland. And as I do every year, the day the Christmas decorations come out, I go to the manager of the office complex and I say, lovely to see the Christmas decorations. Would love to see my fucking menorah. She says the same thing. She goes, I know, I know, I know. I'll get the menorah. And then what happens, happens. A winter wonderland of Christmas goyish and nonsense. And the tiniest menorah on the corner, a big tree, a deer, a bow, a song, and then a tiny little plastic Target menorah sitting on the goddamn corner. We've had enough. You don't have to wrap together. Thank you.
- [71:47]
Luenell
Okay. Okay.
- [71:50]
Margaret Cho
I am here to listen and learn.
- [71:56]
Luenell
Well, I got you beat, because I gotta go. Okay, bye. Bye.
- [72:01]
John Lovett
Fortune. Themes for everybody.
- [72:03]
Margaret Cho
Bye, you guys. Thanks for having me.
- [72:06]
John Lovett
I got you.
- [72:08]
Luenell
You know There's a place that you can go and look at lights. Like some place you can drive through. It was a Covid thing.
- [72:17]
John Lovett
Yeah, yeah.
- [72:17]
Luenell
You could drive through and go look at lights. They had a big show of Christmas lights. Then they had the tiny menorah and a teeny, teeny weeny little Kwanzaa.
- [72:28]
John Lovett
Yeah, there's teeny, tiny Kwanzaa. Tiny Kwanzaa. Kwanzaa doesn't get any love compared to.
- [72:32]
Luenell
So get off. The Pitt Pot Jewish community.
- [72:36]
John Lovett
Yeah. Something they're famously receptive to. All right. All right. When we come back, one last joyride ride. And we're back. As we know, we like to end these shows now with just a small moment of joy that was fun or distracting from the news. Betsy, I believe you have one.
- [72:59]
Fortune Feimster
My joyride is part this week and the rest of the year. For this week, my joyride is I.
- [73:04]
Margaret Cho
Saw my oncologist and she gave me a clean bill of health.
- [73:07]
Luenell
Amen. Fuck cancer.
- [73:16]
John Lovett
That was part of it. For this year. I was able to lose the 60 pounds I gained during chemo.
- [73:24]
Luenell
Damn.
- [73:25]
Fortune Feimster
And fuck cancer. And I spent the day baking for people I love.
- [73:31]
John Lovett
And I want to thank John and.
- [73:32]
Fortune Feimster
The entire crew for the great shows.
- [73:33]
John Lovett
I look forward to seeing everyone next.
- [73:35]
Fortune Feimster
Year for crazy, fucked up four years.
- [73:37]
John Lovett
That we have to live through.
- [73:38]
Luenell
Wow.
- [73:40]
John Lovett
Thank you. Give me a hug. What a great show. What a year. See you all in the new year. That is our show. Thank you to Margaret Cho, thank you to Luenell, thank you to Fortune Feimster. There are 689 days until the 2026 midterms. Have a great night, happy holidays and see you in the new year. Love it or Leave it is a crooked media production. It is written and produced by me, John Lovett and Lee Eisenberg. Kendra James is our executive producer, Chris Lord is our producer, and Kennedy Hill is our associate producer. Hallie Kiefer is our head writer. Sarah Lazarus and Jocelyn Kaufman, Peter Miller, Alan Pierre, Will Miles and Mohanad El Shiki are our writers. Evan Sutton is our editor. Kyle Seglin and Charlotte Landis provide audio support. Stephen Colon is our audio engineer and Milo Kim is our videographer. Our theme song is written and performed by sure Shore. Thanks to our designer, Bernardo Serna for creating and running all of our visuals, which you can't see because this is a podcast. And to our digital producers, David Towles, Claudia Shang, Mia kelman and Matt DeGroote for filming and editing video each week. So you just love it or leave it. Building a business may feel like a big jump. But On Deck Small business loans can help keep you afloat. With lines of credit up to $100,000 and term loans up to 250,000, OnDeck lets you choose the loan that's right for your business. As a top rated online small business lender, OnDeck's team of loan advisors can help you find the right business loan to to fit your needs. Visit ondeck.com for more information. Depending on certain loan attributes, your business loan may be issued by On Deck or Celtic Bank. On Deck does not lend in North Dakota. All loans and amounts subject to lender approval. What makes a Carnival Cruise fun? That's up to you.
- [75:50]
Luenell
Maybe it's a ride on both our.
- [75:52]
John Lovett
Roller coaster at sea or a deep.
- [75:54]
Luenell
Tissue massage at the spa.
- [75:55]
John Lovett
Creole inspired cuisine at Emerald's Bistro to laid back bites at Guy's Burger Joint. Excursions that take you from jungle adventures.
- [76:03]
Luenell
To beach days at Mahogany Bay and sunsets from the Top deck.
- [76:07]
John Lovett
Long story short, no one does fun like Carnival Carnival choose fun.