Lovett or Weave It

Summary

Podcast Summary: Lovett or Weave It

Podcast Information:

• Title: Lovett or Leave It
• Host/Author: Crooked Media
• Description: Every Saturday, former Obama speechwriter and self-described "comedian" Jon Lovett is joined live on stage by a killer lineup of comics, journalists, politicians, and celebrities to break down the biggest and dumbest stories in politics and culture. Additionally, every Tuesday, Jon and his team provide a rundown of the latest headlines to help listeners navigate another week in our complex society. Funniest moments and chaotic segments are available on the Lovett or Leave It YouTube channel.

Episode: Lovett or Weave It

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Introduction

• Timestamp: [00:44]

Jon Lovett opens the episode from Los Angeles, dedicating the show to addressing phishing scammers infiltrating his inbox. He introduces the lineup for the evening:

• Jim Rash: Discussing Trump's rhetoric.
• Derek Tran: Congressional candidate critiquing Trump.
• Bill Nye: Providing scientific perspectives on political lies.

Jon humorously mentions plans to incorporate a 39-minute music appreciation break demonstrating Trump's infamous stage behavior but swiftly transitions into current political events.

Trump's Recent Performances and Rhetoric

• Timestamp: [01:44] - [04:24]

Jon delves into former President Donald Trump's recent public appearances, highlighting his controversial behavior during town halls and interviews:

• Pennsylvania Town Hall Incident:

  • Trump's Q&A was cut short due to medical emergencies, leading him to play "YMCA" for 39 minutes while shamelessly avoiding questions.
  • Notable Quote: "Could a guy with dementia do this?" – Trump

• Bloomberg Interview:

  • Trump attempts to justify his rambling as a calculated tactic called "the weave."
  • Notable Quote: "It's called the weave." – Trump

• Fox News Town Hall:

  • Trump faces an all-women audience and awkwardly misrepresents himself as the "father of IVF," later admitting to needing an explanation about the term from Senator Katie Britt.

• Univision Town Hall:

  • Trump's attempts to downplay the events of January 6th by denying fatalities and gun involvement.
  • Notable Quote: "It was a day of love." – Trump

Jon critiques Trump's inability to stay on topic and questions his mental acuity, emphasizing the unpredictable nature of his statements and the potential implications for the upcoming election.

Kamala Harris and Media Interactions

• Timestamp: [08:40] - [12:40]

Kamala Harris appears alongside Jon and Jim to discuss her recent interviews:

• Interview with Charlamagne Tha God:

  • Harris addresses criticisms about her scripted demeanor.
  • Bill Nye's Input: "That would be called discipline." - Lovett praises Harris's disciplined approach.

• Interview with Bret Baier:

  • Harris counters Trump's narrative about an "enemy within," clarifying that it targets Americans.
  • Bill Nye Reinforcement: Highlights Trump's tendency to demean the American people and military.

Kamala adeptly navigates challenging questions, emphasizing unity and countering Trump's divisive rhetoric. Jon and Bill praise her handling of the interviews, contrasting it with Trump's erratic behavior.

Derek Tran’s Interview: Campaign Challenges and Representation

• Timestamp: [40:12] - [49:47]

Congressional candidate Derek Tran discusses his campaign for California's 45th district:

• Representation:

  • As the district's first Vietnamese American representative, Tran emphasizes the importance of having a voice in DC for his community.
  • Notable Quote: "Since the fall of Saigon in '75, they've never had representation in DC."

• Campaign Funding:

  • Tran highlights his grassroots approach, relying solely on public funding without corporate PAC money.
  • Notable Quote: "I'm funded by the people and I'm proud of that."

• Opposition Challenges:

  • Tran critiques his opponent's anti-choice and anti-abortion voting record, advocating for policies that support everyday Americans facing economic hardships.

• High Turnout Efforts:

  • Emphasizes the critical nature of door-knocking and voter mobilization to secure his seat and influence national policies.

Jon supports Tran's message, urging listeners to volunteer and vote, especially in pivotal districts like Tran's.

Bill Nye's Segment: Climate Change and Scientific Perspectives

• Timestamp: [50:26] - [77:18]

Bill Nye engages in a dynamic discussion with Jon and Kamala about climate change, scientific advancements, and societal challenges:

• Election Importance:

  • Jim Rash: Stresses the 2024 election's significance in combating climate change.
  • Bill Nye: Advocates for optimism and proactive measures, highlighting the potential of clean energy initiatives.

• Scientific Innovations:

  • Nuclear Fusion: Nye explains advancements in nuclear fusion technology, addressing misconceptions like cold fusion and emphasizing its potential to provide sustainable energy.
  • Geoengineering: Discusses the risks and feasibility of manipulating Earth's climate through scientific means, cautioning against unintended consequences like termination shock.

• UFOs and Extraterrestrial Life:

  • Nye offers scientific explanations for the Pentagon's UFO disclosures, advocating for binary signals as a means of interstellar communication.

• Technological Advancements:

  • Self-Driving Cars: Nye predicts the future of autonomous vehicles, emphasizing safety and productivity enhancements.

• Critical Thinking:

  • Encourages skepticism and the evaluation of evidence, debunking myths around horoscopes by linking personality traits to birth seasons rather than celestial influences.

• Promoting Voting for Climate Action:

  • Collaborates with the "Too Hot Not to Vote" campaign, urging listeners to prioritize climate-friendly candidates and policies in the upcoming election.
  • Notable Quote: "It's too hot not to vote." – Bill Nye

Interactive Segments and Games

• Timestamp: [24:00] - [88:24]

The episode includes several interactive and comedic segments to engage the audience:

• Love it or Weave it:

  • A game where participants guess the question Trump is answering based on his tangential responses.
  • Example Clip: Trump discussing voter rolls and ending with a remark about World War Three.

• Capitol Heel:

  • Jon showcases different politicians' iconic shoes, challenging Derek to identify them.
  • Example: Identifies Wendy Davis's pink sneakers during her filibuster.

• Bill Nye Just Some Guy:

  • Nye provides scientific explanations for paranormal phenomena like UFOs and horoscopes.
  • Example Explanation: Suggests binary signals based on hydrogen resonance for alien communication.

• Cancel and Gretel:

  • A game where participants spin a wheel to share events they'd like to cancel without judgment.
  • Example: Kamala mentions canceling small talk at parties to focus on meaningful conversations.

These segments blend humor with political commentary, highlighting the show's unique approach to discussing serious topics through entertainment.

High Notes: Stories of Positivity and Achievement

• Timestamp: [92:56] - [95:09]

Listeners share personal "high notes," moments of joy and accomplishment:

• J.D. Scholten: Celebrates playing professional baseball while in office and the importance of endorsing Kamala Harris.

• Bakery Owner in Boston: Marks the successful opening of a bakery amidst the pandemic and the birth of her first child, emphasizing the importance of community support and workplace flexibility.

Jon encourages listeners to submit their own high notes, fostering a sense of community and positivity amidst political and social turmoil.

Closing Remarks and Final Segments

• Timestamp: [95:09] - [97:36]

Jon wraps up the episode with final thoughts and sponsorship messages:

• Call to Action: Encourages listeners to vote, especially in crucial districts like Derek Tran's.

• Sponsor Messages: Brief mentions of Simplisafe, Quince, credit card competition advocacy, and other sponsors, seamlessly integrated without disrupting the podcast's flow.

• Upcoming Segments: Teases future segments like "spin the wheel," maintaining listener engagement for subsequent episodes.

Notable Quotes

• Trump on Q&A Session:

  • "[...] could a guy with dementia do this?" – Trump (01:49)

• Marcala Harris on Scripted Demeanor:

  • "They say you like to stick to your talking points, and some media says you have discipline." – Bill Nye (08:40)

• Derek Tran on Representation:

  • "I'm funded by the people and I'm proud of that." – Derek Tran (42:12)

• Bill Nye on Climate Optimism:

  • "If you're not optimistic, you're not going to get anything done." – Jim Rash (54:15)

• Bill Nye on Voting for Climate Action:

  • "It's too hot not to vote." – Bill Nye (75:38)

Conclusion

This episode of Lovett or Weave It intertwines political analysis, scientific discourse, and interactive comedy to provide a comprehensive look at current events. Jon Lovett, alongside guests like Kamala Harris, Derek Tran, and Bill Nye, navigates through Trump's erratic behavior, the significance of the upcoming election, and the urgent need for climate action. The show's unique blend of humor and insightful commentary offers listeners both entertainment and thoughtful perspectives on pressing societal issues.

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Transcript

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[John Lovett]

Hello Los Angeles. Welcome to Love it or Leave It. This episode is dedicated to the phishing scammers currently holding my inbox hostage. If I don't Send Scout walls $500 by midnight, but midnight Moscow time, not Minnesota time, I don't know. I didn't ask too many questions. Tonight on the show, Jim Rash is here to weave a Trumpian word tapestry. Congressional candidate Derek Tran lets out his inner shoe lock homes sucks. And the one and only Bill Nye stops by to try and supply reasons why lies might not be nigh with a gh different word. Then we all have plans to spin a wheel, but might not make it. But first, let's get into it. What a week. On Monday night, after his town hall in Pennsylvania was twice interrupted by medical emergencies in the crowd, Trump ended the Q and A early, saying, who the hell wants to hear questions, right? Continued Trump.

[Donald Trump]

Let me hear that music, please, everyone.

[John Lovett]

Let'S thank President Trump.

[Donald Trump]

Nice and loud.

[John Lovett]

God bless you. Let's send President Trump back to the white I want to hear questions such as, is he okay? What's going on? Why is this race tied? It's really hitting me this week. But Trump didn't leave the stage. At one point, he said he would take another question, change his mind, call Democrats evil, and then ask his team to crank ymca.

[Donald Trump]

And those two people that went down are patriots and we love them. And because of them, we ended up with some good music.

[John Lovett]

Right?

[Donald Trump]

Right. So play ymca.

[John Lovett]

Go ahead.

[Donald Trump]

Let's go.

[John Lovett]

Nice and loud. Here we go, everybody. And then he just stood there swaying for song after song for 39 minutes. Nothing compares to. And he remained mostly silent, only occasionally interrupting his swing to say, could a guy with dementia do this? 39 minutes. To help us all grasp just how long 39 minutes is, we've brought in a separate screen here to play Trump's full music appreciation session silently in real time for the next 39 minutes of the show. All right, everybody, the 39 minutes has begun. We'll keep tabs on it. And if at home it is shorter than 39 minutes, well, you can thank this team for tightening the fuck out of the show after I out of earshot. Meanwhile, Trump backed out of a planned interview with CNBC this week, along with an NBC interview and an NRA town hall. This after canceling on 60 Minutes earlier this month, said Trump, get back to me when it's called 60 minutes of uninterrupted Dancing. Also, I can't believe Trump turned down the chance to appear on Squawk Box, considering it's also the pet name he's given each of his wives. In all seriousness, it really does seem like something's going on with him on top of all of the things we know to be going on with him. Trump did show up for an interview with Bloomberg at the Economic Club of Chicago on Tuesday, which didn't exactly put questions about his mental acuity to rest. Trump repeatedly rambled while answering questions and when called out by Bloomberg Editor in Chief John Micklethwaite, claimed that his digressions were a purposeful tactic called the weaver.

[Donald Trump]

So let me just tell you. No, I'm just telling you basic. It's called the weave.

[John Lovett]

It's all these different things happening, said Trump to Micklethwait. When it seems like I'm making a mistake, I'm actually doing something very calculated. Mr. Pickleball. In between his incoherent rantings on stage in Chicago, Trump took this swipe at Kamala Harris.

[Donald Trump]

I took two cognitive tests and I aced them both. I think people should take cognitive tests not because of the age, but because of something else. Now here's the problem. They say it's unconstitutional, okay? But I would love to see cognitive tests. I don't think she could pass a cognitive test.

[John Lovett]

Bragging about passing a cognitive test for a presidential candidate is a lot like bragging about passing a field sobriety test. Like, okay, but why are we taking the test? What's the concern here? It's not something you brag about. It's something you quietly tell your wife while counting your blessings. But then you remember the only wife you've ever truly loved is Birdie on the golf course with that signed photo of your grandpa and Hitler. Anyway, this entire election is a cognitive test for all of us. And as of now, it is not clear whether or not this country can draw a fucking clock. That's what this election is. That's what it is, America. Draw a clock. On Wednesday, Trump at his Fox News town hall taking questions from an all women audience. An audience that Fox News did not mention was mostly comprised of area Trump supporters. He mostly repeated his various blood libels and then his claim that everyone was thrilled when Roe was overturned. But upon hearing a question about ivf, Trump said this. I'm the father of ivf. Yuck. And then moments later, he admitted that Senator Katie Britt, who he made sure to mention he finds hot, had to explain to him what IVF was in February of this year.

[Donald Trump]

So I got a call from Katie Britt, a young, just a fantastically attractive person from Alabama. She's a senator. And I said, explain ivf. Ivf very quickly. And within about two minutes, I understood it.

[John Lovett]

This might seem like a contradiction until you remember that to Trump, being a father of something means not knowing or caring about it, even a little bit, until it affects you personally. Trump had a tougher time at Univision, which is Spanish for Univision, at this. At this. At this town hall that was not stacked with adoring fans. He got some gotchas, which I'm going to play at 1.25 speed. I am a Republican, no longer registered, though you know, what happened during January.

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[John Lovett]

You waited so long to take action while your supporters were attacking the Capitol coronavirus. I thought we were. The public was misled during coronavirus. And that money, many more lives could have been saved. I'm curious how people so close to you and your administration no longer want to support you.

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So why would I want to support you?

[John Lovett]

Your own vice president doesn't want to support you. Now, what's Spanish for plant? All right, it's planta. I know. I remember all the cognates. That's what my Spanish teacher called me in high school. King of the cognate. Could find my way to a cognate beautifully. Now I sound like Trump. Trump. Trump took a deep breath and replied. I'm not going to sugarcoat it. To win back your trust, it's going to take some very intense, very sustained dancing in the most telling campaign moment of the week, here's Trump's response to the part about January 6th and the audience's extremely skeptical reaction.

[Donald Trump]

Action was taken. Strong action. Ashley Babbitt was killed. Nobody was killed. There were no guns then.

[John Lovett]

We didn't have guns.

[Donald Trump]

But that was a day of love. From the standpoint of the millions of.

[John Lovett]

Hundreds of thousands taking a shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk is one of the rarer love languages, but it's love nonetheless. Speaking of God complexes, Kamala Harris joined Charlamagne. Tha God. For an interview on Tuesday and pushed back on critics who say she's too scripted. Now, you know, one thing they've been saying, a lot of your press hits get criticized.

[Kamala Harris]

You know, folks say you come off as very scripted.

[John Lovett]

They say you like to stick to your talking points, and some media says you have.

[Bill Nye]

That would be called discipline.

[John Lovett]

I like that. I like that. Like, we want our politicians to be completely 100% unscripted. Never make a mistake, always be 100% authentic. Repeat their speech over and over and over again, but not in a way that is pointed out to us. Stupid. Sorry, Vice President Harris. Discipline isn't a concept we know anymore. We're watching TikToks on our phones instead of paying attention to the TV show we put on, instead of finishing our book, instead of doing our tasks. Having discipline in 2024 is like being fluent in Latin. Impressive. But to what end? During the interview, Harris took aim at Trump's supposed projection of strength, when, in.

[Bill Nye]

Fact, the man is really quite weak. He's weak. It's a sign of weakness that you want to please dictators and seek their flattery and favor. It's a sign of weakness that you would demean America's military and America's service members. It's a sign of weakness that you don't have the courage to stand up for the Constitution of the United States and the principles upon which it stands.

[John Lovett]

Wow. Yeah, some people are just really good on the phone. Trump is that special kind of weak and unfit, the type that fails to open a jar and then says, I loosened it for you, and the next person gets it. Speaking of not loose, Kamala Harris sat down with Fox News Bret Baier on Wednesday night. Good for Kamala. Right into the lion's dead. Sure, the lions are fantastically wealthy liars with poorly placed Botox, but still lions. Baer asked Harris if she thought that Trump supporters were stupid, misguided. The 50%.

[Jim Rash]

Are they stupid?

[John Lovett]

Bret Baer, Like Elmer Fudd here putting a carrot under a box held up by a fucking stick. But will democracy's Bugs Bunny in a pussy bow blouse fall for his trap?

[Donald Trump]

What is it?

[Bill Nye]

I would never say that about the American people. And in fact, if you listen to Donald Trump, if you watch any of his rallies, he's the one who tends to demean and belittle and diminish the American people. He's the one who talks about an enemy within an enemy within, talking about the American people, suggesting he would turn the American military on the American people.

[John Lovett]

Nailed it. So Kamala doesn't take the bait to create a little deplorable sequel and points out that it's Trump targeting Americans. But Bear responded with this question to the former president today. Harris Faulkner had a town hall and this is how he responded.

[Donald Trump]

I heard about that. They were saying I was like threatening. I'm not threatening anybody. They're the ones doing their threatening. They do phony investigations. I've been investigated more than Alphonse Capone. He was the greatest gangster. No, it's true.

[John Lovett]

But think of it.

[Donald Trump]

It's called weaponization of government. It's a terrible thing.

[John Lovett]

Now, instead of playing the clip Kamala is talking about, Baer played a clip where Trump tries to downplay his own repeated comments, which Kamala helpfully pointed out.

[Bill Nye]

Brett, I'm sorry, and with all due respect, that clip was not what he has been saying about the enemy within that he has repeated when he's speaking about the American people. That's not what you just showed.

[John Lovett]

He was asked about that. No, no.

[Bill Nye]

That's not what you just showed. In all fairness and respect was the.

[John Lovett]

Question that we asked him.

[Bill Nye]

You didn't show that. And here's the bottom line. He has repeated it many times. And you and I both know that. And you and I both know that. He has talked about turning the American military on the American people. He has talked about going after people who are engaged in peaceful protest. He has talked about locking people up because they disagree with him. This is a democracy.

[John Lovett]

Yes. In fact, the clip Bear played to downplay or pretend Trump had walked back. His comments actually came moments after he says exactly what Kamala Harris was talking about. This is what Bret Baer cut around.

[Donald Trump]

It is the enemy from within. And they're very dangerous. They're Marxists and communists and fascists and they're sick. I use a guy like Adam Schiff because they made up the Russia, Russia, Russia hooks. It took two years to solve the problem, absolutely nothing was done wrong, etc. Etc. They're dangerous for our country. We have China, we have Russia, we have all these countries. If you have a smart president, they can all be handled.

[John Lovett]

Handled. They've gotten so soft over there at Fox News, endlessly interviewing Trump about how reasonably priced his watches are and how sweet his kisses taste. Well, now they've finally met their match. A woman with a working short term memory, fresh off her donnybrook with Bret Baier. Kamala got this line off on some MAGA hecklers attending her rally in Wiscons on Thursday.

[Bill Nye]

Oh, you guys are at the Wrong rally. No, I think you meant to go to the smaller one down the street.

[John Lovett]

Nice, nice. Hey, we're still having fun. We're strapped to a rock, getting our eyes pecked out by eagles. But we're goofing. We're goofing on the eagles and we're having a good time. Speaking of people trapped between this world and the next, former President Jimmy Carter, who celebrated his hundredth birthday earlier this month, successfully cast his vote for Kamala Harris on Wednesday with a mail in ballot. Can I tell you what my first thought was? Sincerely, Carter dies between now and election Day. Georgia comes down to one vote. We can't verify his signature. I'm not sleeping well. The prilosec is only kind of working. I see one more poll that makes no sense. Jimmy Carter may outlive me, carter told his son Chip back in August. I'm only trying to make it to vote for Kamala Harris, said Chip. What'd you say, dad? As he looked up from his phone. Nothing. Nothing, said Jimmy. Nothing. Chip Carter is 74 years old. By the way, Chip, maybe you get that ballot in the mail too, buddy. You're young, but only compared to one person. Speaking of time being short, Israeli officials confirmed on Thursday the death of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar, the architect of the October 7th attacks in Gaza. But don't worry, he got his vote in for Kamala in time as well. Following the news, Vice President Harris said this in remarks from Wisconsin this moment.

[Bill Nye]

Gives us an opportunity to finally end the war in Gaza. And it must end such that Israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in Gaza ends, and the Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self determination, said Israeli.

[John Lovett]

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Or should we just not talk about it? All right. On Thursday, the Biden administration announced another round of student debt forgiveness, bringing the total student loan cancellation to $175 billion for nearly 5 million people since President Biden took office. Looks like my staff won't have to pay back their student loans for clown college. I'm kidding. You are my best and only friends. Speaking of clown college, a couple days ago this video made the rounds. Allow me to describe the video. A kneeling person is fed a Dorito by a person off camera, then truly in a jump scare. The person off camera is revealed to be Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer. And impossibly, this is a video about the CHIPS Act. That's what I guess the Dorito represents. To be honest, I hated this video when I saw it last week, but It's October in an election that will determine if we protect the climate, abortion, gender affirming care, immigrants, Obamacare, and democracy. So when I hate something a Democrat does, I say it in my car on my way to the microphones. Just deal with it. I'll make up for it next year. But then Governor Whitmer apologized after some Catholics expressed offense that the tableau evoked the Holy Sacrament of Communion. In Whitmer's apology, she claimed it never occurred to her that the video would bring to mind the time Jesus turned into a Dorito. Said the governor a statement I would never do something to denigrate someone's faith. I would do something to queerbait based on questionable advice from my Gen Z staff. But if God doesn't like that, he's a dweeb, she continued. And as a reminder to celebrate all faiths, I always look to my many, many paintings of the Prophet Muhammad. Speaking of apologies, in a podcast interview on Tuesday, Jerry Seinfeld said that he regretted telling the New Yorker in April that the extreme left and PC crap were kill.

[Kamala Harris]

I did say that, yeah. That's not true. I don't think the As I said, the extreme left has done anything to inhibit the art of comedy.

[John Lovett]

Right?

[Kamala Harris]

I'm taking that back now. Officially.

[John Lovett]

With a sigh, added Seinfeld, what's the deal with me? Good for a Seinfeld. Comedians in cars getting introspective. Normally these guys just retrench and get all defensive. That's cool. I think that's good. He said something kind of dumb, got a bunch of criticism for. He thought about it and said, no, I'm being stupid, I'm wrong. And he actually explains it because he says basically, culture changes, views change jokes. We used to make, we can't make anymore. But the job, he compared it to skiing because he's always got a metaphor for comedy. At least this one's about sports. And not like splitting the atom or something, but like, he's like, you know, the skiers have to hit the gates. He has to hit the marks. If you don't hit the space where you're supposed to go, it's not funny. That's not on the culture. That's on you. Which I thought was a very good point. So good for Jerry Seinfeld. Welcome to the Resistance. I suppose in a week of weirdness, one weirdness more According to the New York Times, no one knows who is currently the CEO of Boar's Head because it's three pigs in a trench coat. It's not according to the Times, the deli meat empire is run by a secretive dynasty of two families, the Brunkhorsts and the Biscoffs. Two households, both alike in pignity. Also, the exact names you'd make up for dueling families controlling a deli meat empire, according to Boar's Head's former head of finance in a 2022 deposition, even the finance department wasn't allowed to access even basic information about Boar's Head sales, all of which had drawn scrutiny in the wake of a deadly listeria outbreak that exposed safety problems at a Virginia plant. They're as secretive as anybody I can think of in the industry, said Tom Johnston, editor of Meeting Place, a trade publication covering the meat processing industry. Forget it, Tom. It's charcuterie town. Let's do a quick poll. Just decide which one you like better. Forget it, Tom. It's prosciutto town, all right. I think about even they've got a saying at Bohr's Head snitches get stitches and a big sandwich because everybody gets a big sandwich. I thought that one would do better. And finally, Penguin Random House announced Wednesday that Pope Francis memoir titled Hope will be published in February. The full title of the memoir was It's a Me, the Pope and I'm Full of Hope, A Memoir by the Pope. What will these penguins think of next? Up next, he's the dean of our dreams. It's Jim Rash Tate.

[Derek Tran]

Don't go anywhere. There's more of Love it or Leave it coming up.

[John Lovett]

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[Kamala Harris]

Oh, thanks for having me. Yeah. Hi. Oh, yeah. I hated that card.

[John Lovett]

We're here to talk about. I like your shoes. I'm moving this chair back a little.

[Kamala Harris]

Please do. Because my eyeline. That's better.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, that's better.

[Kamala Harris]

Well, this was better, but that's okay. It's just like so profile.

[John Lovett]

Go ahead. That's what I was trying to. I was trying to. Okay.

[Kamala Harris]

No, it's okay.

[John Lovett]

Well, I was too much in profile, and it's my show.

[Kamala Harris]

Oh, fair enough, fair enough, fair enough. Let's edit that out. Oh, no, we get three of those, right?

[John Lovett]

Yeah, that's right. You get exactly three of them.

[Kamala Harris]

Great.

[John Lovett]

All right, so we talked about this briefly in the monologue. We're gonna talk today about the weave. In short, Trump is now arguing that he isn't constantly losing his train of thought and rambling from topic to topic and improvising every speech at a speed that would make Del close gasp. As we all assumed that was complicated.

[Kamala Harris]

Well, yeah, no, he's at Del Close. Drop a name. That's good.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, I thought it was good.

[Kamala Harris]

That's good. Homage.

[John Lovett]

He's actually developed a very sophisticated, never before seen speech pattern called the weave, which is why we're playing a game we're calling Love it or weave it. Oh. Oh, there we are. We're weaving.

[Kamala Harris]

Ah.

[John Lovett]

We're weaving on a loom.

[Kamala Harris]

God.

[John Lovett]

On a loom.

[Kamala Harris]

Why don't I do more hand modeling based on this? Oh, God. Gorgeous.

[John Lovett]

We gotta stop these moments.

[Kamala Harris]

I forgot when we were doing that, when we were working there.

[John Lovett]

No, I know. It was a beautiful, beautiful experience.

[Kamala Harris]

It was a different time. And we would just gossip and barely get our weaving done. The people listening to this are like, what the fuck are they talking about?

[John Lovett]

I'm gonna play you a snippet of Trump talking. You will have to tell us what question his answer is in response to. Are you ready?

[Kamala Harris]

Mm.

[John Lovett]

Earlier this week, Donald Trump sat down with Bloomberg news editor John Micklethwait for an interview in Chicago where he went on this rant about Virginia voter rolls.

[Donald Trump]

Virginia cleaned up its voter rolls and got rid of thousands and thousands of bad votes.

[John Lovett]

Jim, what was that question that Trump was answering?

[Kamala Harris]

Well, I guess the logic is, to me, nowhere near what he's talking about at this point.

[John Lovett]

You got it.

[Kamala Harris]

So I was gonna say, is climate change real.

[John Lovett]

Close? Oh, here's the question.

[Kamala Harris]

I can't believe I got that wrong.

[John Lovett]

Should Google be broken up? The question was, should Google be broken?

[Kamala Harris]

I really was so close.

[John Lovett]

So close.

[Kamala Harris]

But I was in the neighborhood. Cause it was such a far departure from it, Right?

[John Lovett]

Yeah.

[Kamala Harris]

Could you imagine actually improvising while he was weaving? I mean, it'd make you probably the best improviser in the world to justify everything that he's saying and changing topics.

[John Lovett]

That's right.

[Kamala Harris]

Here we are at that bakery and then he starts weaving.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, that's Right. He's a terrible scene partner. He's not really a listener. He's not a listener.

[Kamala Harris]

Not at all.

[John Lovett]

You know, it's like, here we are, this baker. We gotta stop these migrants.

[Kamala Harris]

You're right, we do. And they're coming in the door right now. Migrants, please. We're not open yet.

[John Lovett]

And he's like, actually, the Jews are gonna be the reason I lose.

[Derek Tran]

Oh.

[Kamala Harris]

And then I just start singling for the blackout.

[John Lovett]

Yeah.

[Kamala Harris]

Black it out. Oh, thank you.

[John Lovett]

Oh. Two weeks in a row.

[Kamala Harris]

Bravo. All right.

[John Lovett]

During his rally this week in Oaks, Pennsylvania, Trump invited supporters on stage to ask him questions. One voter had this query for him. My grocery bill has not gone down. Everything is still so very expensive. What steps will your administration take to help American families suffering from this inflation? What Oscar winning performance, Ah, bless you. Did Trump reference in response?

[Kamala Harris]

I'm gonna assume he's going the Hannibal Lecter route.

[John Lovett]

That's correct.

[Kamala Harris]

Thank you. Wow. I almost went Sophie's Choice. And I went, no.

[John Lovett]

Oh, yeah.

[Kamala Harris]

You know. Cause you have to choose your grocery items.

[John Lovett]

Right, Right.

[Kamala Harris]

And sometimes I can't do the flour. Sorry. Flour. You're out.

[John Lovett]

But you need both the flour and the other thing you're gonna buy.

[Kamala Harris]

You need the eggs.

[John Lovett]

Eggs. It was natural to say eggs.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

I forgot they exist for a moment, briefly.

[Kamala Harris]

Really?

[John Lovett]

I couldn't remember what you would wanna make with flour. I'm not much of a cook.

[Kamala Harris]

Okay. Oh, everybo. Just flour and eggs. What do you want to have? Flours and eggs. Okay, I'll mix it up for you. Anything else?

[John Lovett]

No.

[Kamala Harris]

Cook it. No, I can cook it just like a paste.

[John Lovett]

Yeah. Yeah. It's a. Yeah. So I have a little theory, and I want to know what you think about this, which is so. I think Pillsbury has really cracked the code. Something I've talked about in this show before. I don't really care. I could talk about it again. So if you go to.

[Kamala Harris]

Bringing it back up, if you go.

[John Lovett]

To the Albertsons or any supermarket, really, you got the blue cookie dough and you got the yellow cookie dough. Blue cookie dough. Pillsbury, yellow cookie dough's toes. House yellow. Toll House cookie says, do not eat this raw. Pillsbury says, come on in, you fucking freaks.

[Kamala Harris]

Is that right?

[John Lovett]

Eat this right now. Eat and bake. But here's the Eat or bake, it says on the thing. But now people have caught on. And now it's only yellow. You go. And there's just empty racks. I think that, like, the market hasn't caught up to the fact that Everybody has now discovered that the blue cookie dough, you don't have to cook it. And we can finally give in to our debauched true selves, where you just.

[Kamala Harris]

Undo it and then just chomp on the whole.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, well, so you can usually buy it in sheets, which is how I feel.

[Kamala Harris]

Like we just went home with you one night. And so I feel like this is a call for help because clearly we.

[John Lovett]

Haven'T even gotten to it yet.

[Kamala Harris]

You've said, you've clarified. Oh, well, you can get the sheets or you can get a full log. Either way, you're up on the couch and you're just, nyam, nyam, nyam.

[John Lovett]

So the sheets are better because they're individual cookies. The log.

[Kamala Harris]

That way you can pace yourself.

[Derek Tran]

Yes.

[John Lovett]

You can decide.

[Kamala Harris]

I'm only gonna have five sheets, right?

[John Lovett]

Well, that's. Yes, but so. But they're now out of the sheets, so you have to get the log. And then they were out of the normal sized log, so all they had left was value log.

[Kamala Harris]

Oh. And so anyway, no, and then I would just say, do you have like a party ball size?

[John Lovett]

Yeah. Do you have a. Perhaps a drum of some kind filled with cookie dough?

[Kamala Harris]

Oh, Costco maybe is where you want to go. And just.

[John Lovett]

I'm interested in a tub or a pallet perhaps for this weave. I'm going to play it, and then immediately you'll have to guess the topic Trump mentioned just before this clip began. Are you ready?

[Kamala Harris]

Mm.

[Donald Trump]

We have never been so close to World War Three.

[John Lovett]

What was he talking about before this?

[Kamala Harris]

He was just talking about more beachfront property with climate change.

[John Lovett]

So close. He was, in fact, talking about the weave itself.

[Kamala Harris]

Oh, see, that's a trick question. Okay.

[Donald Trump]

By the way, and I think it's very important we can go. You know, I call it the weave. You can call it. You have the weave as long as you end up in the right location at the end. But while we're talking about it, we have never been so close to World War Three.

[John Lovett]

Absolutely fucking nuts.

[Kamala Harris]

Well, kind of. He's kind of. Right. Because if he's at the helm and that's what we get, then we are probably very close to it.

[John Lovett]

Right. He's a bit like a customer at a restaurants being like this restaurant has never been closer to having a patron destroy it from the inside as he lifts various glass things.

[Kamala Harris]

I will say the weave can be helpful, I guess, if you're like, on, say, a bad date and you get that flop sweat, and then you just say, I'm sorry. Real Quick. I'm just weaving. I'll eventually land where you want.

[John Lovett]

Can't relate.

[Kamala Harris]

A bad audition. I'm getting there. I'm gonna find the line. I'm just sort of weaving my way to it. Don't worry, I'm gonna stick it.

[John Lovett]

I've never been on a bad date.

[Kamala Harris]

Really? No, I was gonna say I've been.

[John Lovett]

On some bad days.

[Kamala Harris]

No, I'm sorry. That whole cookie dough thing told me that.

[John Lovett]

Ooh, ooh.

[Kamala Harris]

Said the guy who's had. Who's been on many. So.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, no, I know, I know. No, they're very protective of me because they know my personality and how right you are. Okay, next up in this clip, Donald Trump says a word many people this week thought was because it was so strange. They thought it was his attempt to say Arizonans. Jim, how do you think he tried to pronounce it?

[Kamala Harris]

Well, I'm trying to remember exactly because I've seen. Oh. Era Asians.

[John Lovett]

Very close. Very close. Let's see what he said. We'll give it to you, I guess.

[Kamala Harris]

Oh, thank you.

[Donald Trump]

You look great.

[John Lovett]

Thank you, darling.

[Donald Trump]

Also, we have many Azerasians now.

[Kamala Harris]

I forgot that. I forgot that hard Z at the beginning.

[John Lovett]

Now, here's what's interesting. Here's what's interesting. Fake news media. It was such a garbled and confusing word that people assume, I guess he was trying to say Arizonans because he said as Eurasians. It turns out Trump wasn't trying to say Arizonans. He was trying to say Assyrians because there was a contingent of Assyrians for Trump in the audience behind them, and they had T shirts that said Assyrians for Trump. He still biffed it.

[Kamala Harris]

Wow. Wow.

[John Lovett]

Isn't that interesting?

[Kamala Harris]

Yes, absolutely it is.

[John Lovett]

He kind of got kind of a little bit unfair to Trump there.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah, Maybe Arizona was on the screen. Yeah. I think as Arizonians, I mean, he.

[John Lovett]

Still fucked it up, but I think it's like you're in Arizona.

[Kamala Harris]

No, we don't have to give him any points. It's a fail both ways.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, you're right.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah, you're right. We don't have to find the silver lining here. We don't have to weave our way into giving him a half compliment.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, fuck that. He should. You gotta know how to say his.

[Kamala Harris]

No. Jesus.

[John Lovett]

And you know what that sound means. I guess it's time for our lightning round where the points double.

[Kamala Harris]

Oh, good.

[John Lovett]

So now they really matter.

[Kamala Harris]

These really matter. I think I've gotten two out of four. Is that correct?

[John Lovett]

You got them all Right. It's time. Remember that? It's time for a lightning round called what a mangled web he weave. What a mangled web he weave. Here's the game. I'm gonna give you two completely unrelated topics. We'll put 30 seconds on the clock. You'll have to weave a Trumpian tapestry between these two concepts, which, again, will appear to the untrained eyes having nothing to do with one another. Are you ready, Jim?

[Kamala Harris]

I guess. Yep.

[John Lovett]

I have three weave options for you to pick from. Okay. You can just. You know what? Yeah. You're just gonna have to do the first one. I say.

[Kamala Harris]

Yep. Give it to me.

[John Lovett]

Tariffs and Martin Short and Meryl Streep potentially dating.

[Kamala Harris]

Okay, that's it.

[John Lovett]

Do it.

[Kamala Harris]

I mean, tariffs are not going to benefit.

[John Lovett]

Well, you have to wait till the timer starts.

[Kamala Harris]

Tariffs are not going to benefit. You know, they're gonna put more money out of that. And speaking of money, it's like money, money, money. If you remember, show me the money from where? You know, Tom Cruise and, like, show me the money. And it was so funny because when you think about Tom Cruise, you think about him and Top Gun, and it doesn't really matter that Top Gun, you know, whether it was good or not. But Meryl Streep loved it and Martin Shore loved it, and that was going to be their first date. Was watching Top Gun.

[John Lovett]

Nice. So when you. When you said money, money, money, I thought you had found your way to Meryl Streep in Mamma Mia.

[Kamala Harris]

I know. That would have been harder. I know.

[John Lovett]

Now we're at. They were there, we were there. We were on the precipice.

[Kamala Harris]

But that's the tricky thing with the weave. Cause sometimes. Sometimes like a zig and a zag, you don't know which way you're gonna go. And because I could not find the name the Jerry Maguire, I had to lock into Tom Cruise. And then I was really in a gray zone there. And I said, jim, you've got to get to Martin Short.

[John Lovett]

You got it.

[Kamala Harris]

And it's much easier than you're making it. So then I was like, tom Cruise? Was he any Martin Short in their movies? Then I bailed on that. No, he wasn't. And I don't know if Merrill was. And then, man, I stuck the landing, though.

[John Lovett]

You really did. Well, it's interesting. You went to Tom Cruise, and wee.

[Kamala Harris]

There was better than my thirst.

[John Lovett]

Tom Cruise and Martin Short, vaguely in the same font, you know.

[Kamala Harris]

Say that again. Tom Cruise.

[John Lovett]

Tom Cruise and Martin Short, They're. They're Vaguely. They have similar vague shapes.

[Kamala Harris]

You know, I thought I heard you say font.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, like, they're kind of. They're like.

[Kamala Harris]

Oh, I see what you're saying.

[John Lovett]

They're like, what is that? Same font, different people. People. Different people. Same font. They're like similar fonts a little bit.

[Kamala Harris]

So, okay, you know, so we're all like, what was the one? Rinky Dinks font.

[John Lovett]

Yeah. Rinky dinks. Wing dings. I saw Martin Short at the airport.

[Kamala Harris]

God, I wish I had a better one. I've seen Martin Sherwood in the lobby at a theater.

[John Lovett]

That's cool. Yeah, let's do one more. Inflation and the new Wicked movie.

[Kamala Harris]

Wait, they're Gas bank inflation. Can't wait for him to get to that Wicked thing. Inflation and the new Wicked movie.

[John Lovett]

And the new Wicked movie.

[Kamala Harris]

Okay. I mean, thankfully, I think inflation is going down. Not as much as they would have hoped. And spinning, like, going down. I mean, you know what's not going down is the anticipation. Oh, that's too fast. You know, going down is like an elevator. And, you know, it's like. You know, I remember going up in an elevator once, and I was sitting next to Adina Menz, Kristin Chenoweth, and she says, you remember that last note? I went. You mean the one that goes, ah? And I go, where did I hear that before? Oh, that's right. I'm gonna hear it again in the new Wicked movie.

[John Lovett]

That was so good. Our. Are you. How much. How much Wicked. How many versions of Defying Gravity have you consumed?

[Kamala Harris]

I mean, different.

[John Lovett]

Yes. Like, do you have. Is any. Does any algorithm.

[Kamala Harris]

I don't believe the album because I've never seen on stage, but I hope to see it at the Pantages. My God. It's okay. I've listened to the album because the.

[John Lovett]

Algorithm has figured out that I want to hear every version of Defying Gravity ever recorded from anyone from anyone on Earth, including Brazilian and Germany versions.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

I have heard so many people go, ah. And also. Also the other one. There's a third one.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah, well, there's probably the matinee one where they don't go there to save their voice. The matinee audience is like, oh, matinee, matinee, matinee.

[John Lovett]

It's matinee. Hey, gotta save it.

[Kamala Harris]

Gotta save it for the big one.

[John Lovett]

For the night people.

[Kamala Harris]

The people that count people, they paid the same.

[John Lovett]

But why does the matinee not count? Is only daytime outside, but not in the theaters. The same light in the theater, but because it's daytime. Outside, we care less. What's that about? That's.

[Kamala Harris]

That's. I don't know. That's a good question. Maybe we just think that daytime people are more. This is not offensive because I go to matinees, but maybe they see, oh, these people are a little bit more boring because they don't have, like, a nightlife.

[John Lovett]

Yeah. But then when you go to the theater at night, you have dinner at 6.

[Kamala Harris]

The what?

[John Lovett]

It's dinner so early.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

Hey, you know what? I've really enjoyed weaving with you.

[Kamala Harris]

I have enjoyed weaving, too. Thank you, Jim Rash.

[John Lovett]

Thank you so much.

[Kamala Harris]

Oh, my God. My bad.

[John Lovett]

He'll be back for the. For the wheel. We do at the end. One more time for Jim Rash. When we come back, congressional candidate Derek Tran is here.

[Kamala Harris]

And we're back.

[John Lovett]

Please welcome to the stage, it's your pal, and hopefully soon to be congressman. It's Derek Tran. Hi. Nice to meet you. Thanks for being here.

[Derek Tran]

By the way, Trump stopped dancing.

[John Lovett]

Oh, Trump stopped dancing. Wait, is it over? What? So it stopped. It ran out? Nobody commented or made a noise? I did.

[Derek Tran]

I just told you.

[John Lovett]

Oh, the screensaver went on. Jesus fucking Christ. Well, here. Let's fake it. Let's just fake it. That was it. That was 39 minutes. Long time. Long time. All right, Derek, your money representing California's 45th district basically wraps around Disneyland.

[Derek Tran]

It does? Yeah. They gave me Knott's Berry Farm.

[John Lovett]

You got Knott's Berry Farm?

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah.

[Derek Tran]

Yeah, I have Knott's Berry Farm.

[John Lovett]

I went to Knott's Berry Farm as a kid. There was a ride, I believe, called Montezuma's Revenge. Have they renamed that?

[Derek Tran]

No, I think it's still there.

[John Lovett]

I'm not sure. It was one of the ones that would accelerate very quickly. I think that was the Revenge. Or maybe when you went back, you.

[Derek Tran]

Were tall enough to get on the rights.

[Kamala Harris]

Wow.

[Derek Tran]

They told you to be funny back there.

[John Lovett]

Yeah. No, Very funny. No, it's true. I was. It's actually from a very young age, I really wanted to go on roller coasters, but I was too short to go on them. And so we would stuff my shoes. We would put stuff in my shoes to go on the ride. I'm lucky to be here. I could have slipped through. I was a little chunky, so I wouldn't have slipped out. So it was fine. I was fine. No, it's good. I love you. Sorry. I know. No, I'm glad you said it. I don't care about being short. It actually doesn't really confort with my personality, you think I'd hold grudges and care about being short? Neither is true. Isn't that weird?

[Derek Tran]

This is my last time on the show, by the way.

[John Lovett]

You'll never see me again. So your district has the highest Vietnamese American population in the country, but you would be the District's first Vietnamese American representative. Seems bad to break the streak, no?

[Derek Tran]

That's what I do best.

[John Lovett]

But sort of, what does that mean in the District? And what does it mean to the Vietnamese population in the District?

[Derek Tran]

Look, it's a huge honor to be where I'm at right now. This community. Since the fall of Saigon in 75, 49 years ago. Plus, they've never had representation in DC. No voice, no one with the lived experience to share with the national leaders there. What's this refugee community is all about? So that's one of the many reasons why I want to do this.

[John Lovett]

So Europe, thank you. Your opponent is the incumbent, currently trying to dance around a deeply anti choice, anti abortion voting record. An attempt that has the LA Times in writing say, don't put too much faith in anything she says or does during an election on the issue. How, first of all, how effective has that been? How hard is it to make clear to people? Especially because, you know, California is expensive, an expensive place to campaign. How effective has she been at getting that story out versus Democrats in getting the truth out about it?

[Derek Tran]

Look, I think it's difficult in that I'm challenging an incumbent and there's so much dark money out there. Right? There's been almost a million from Elon playing in this district for God knows why. Crypto money that's in this district, that's playing against me like 2.8 million. But at the end of the day, I think that my message, which resonates with the community out there matters and representation matters out there. So we're doing, we're working so hard. My entire team, the volunteers I have, you know, taking zero corporate PAC money. I am funded by the people and I'm proud of that. So we're going to do it.

[John Lovett]

The cybertruck sucks.

[Derek Tran]

It's super ugly.

[John Lovett]

My father texted to say that great news. He got off the waitlist for the cybertruck. I think he's kidding, but I won't know till I visit. Hey, what do you think about the efforts to undermine your campaign people? They're trying to bring up former legal clients that you've defended as a lawyer, when at the same time we all recognize that everybody is a basic right to have A defense. How has that played out?

[Derek Tran]

Yeah, look, I think it's pretty fucked up that they're doing this. Number one, I'm not a defense lawyer. Never have been. And not that there's anything wrong with being a defense lawyer, but they're twisting cases that I've had as a consumer rights lawyer, wrongful termination cases, and calling me a defense lawyer for rapists. I mean, that is insane. That's who I'm campaigning against. This vile person that doesn't care about truth. Right. But at the end of the day, you know, I think people see through that. All right, well, that's the hope.

[John Lovett]

At least you got the LA Times endorsement. That's gotta be worth a lot of votes. I think there's gotta be a lot of people that just, like. I don't know. The California ballot is so many fucking things. Which is a reminder. Go to votesafeamerica.com because you can. We have a ballot tool that can. You can fill out your ballot. Derek, your campaign told me that you're a sneakerhead. I can see that by the fact that you're wearing sneakers. I did. I designed these in the Nike store myself when I was high. So we're going to put your sneakerhead status up against some tennis shoes in a game we're calling Capitol Heel.

[Derek Tran]

Oh, I like it.

[John Lovett]

Oh, there we are. Nice, Nice. I'll show you a pair of politician shoes, you tell us whose shoes they are. It seems more complicated when I launched into the intro, but I promise you it's not. At least for your sake, I hope it's not. Are you ready?

[Derek Tran]

I'm ready.

[John Lovett]

First up, we have this iconic pair of Converse.

[Derek Tran]

That's Kamala. No, that is not. No, no, no, it is.

[John Lovett]

You did. You gotta trust your instincts. This was the Vogue cover that caused an uproar because, I don't know. I think she looks so cool in the picture, but there was an uproar about it. There was another. Do we have the other photo? There was another photo of. Part of it that was also very cool. But anyway, that was Kamala. She was in another picture without sneakers, which was apparently better, but I thought she was cool in this picture. I guess the facial express, a little ch. I don't know. People had a problem with it. Not me, though. Next up, Joan of Arc. More like Joan of Arch Support. That doesn't even lead into this. All right, we have these shoes.

[Derek Tran]

Oh, my goodness. Help. Help.

[John Lovett]

You guys know this. You absolute fucking. Yes. Wow. They know the shoes. You freaks. You media Consuming wonderful people. It's in Texas is your hint. They're whispering. Wendy.

[Derek Tran]

Wendy.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, that's right. This is Wendy Davis in her pink sneakers during her filibuster for 13 hours to block a vote on State Senate Bill 5. Interesting. During the filibuster sale, those specific shoes spiked on Amazon and the comment section descended into a debate about abortion. It's like I always say, our entire country is an Amazon comment section. Debate on abortion. The bill eventually passed its subsequent Senate sessions. And finally, these dreamy, creamy statement wellies.

[Derek Tran]

That's DeSantis.

[John Lovett]

That is DeSantis. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. Remember that guy? Now your race has been moved from leaning slightly Republican to being a toss up to. What do you credit that shift?

[Derek Tran]

Me?

[John Lovett]

Oh, good.

[Derek Tran]

Yeah, yeah. Look, I think I put in the hard work, the team's put in the hard work in making sure we get here. It's been quite a journey to get to this point. But, you know, we've always knew that Steel is not the right fit for the district. And the people know that. And the people of the district sees that she's done nothing for them. And they know that because she's voted against every single major piece of legislation that brought back opportunity and funding for the district.

[John Lovett]

District.

[Derek Tran]

So it's time to fire her from her job.

[John Lovett]

And before we let you go, what is the most. What is the most unheard or specific kind of question or concern you hear from the doors, from the knock on doors and talking to people? What is like not getting the attention it deserves?

[Derek Tran]

Look, I think every issue that I hear at the door is very important.

[John Lovett]

Right?

[Derek Tran]

You got the codification of Roe v. Wade. Make sure we get rid of the Dobbs decision. You have the economy that comes up constantly rising, prices at the grocery store, child tax credits. These are things that everyday Americans are facing. And these are the things that I want to address when I get to Congress. And that's not being done by Steel.

[John Lovett]

All right, well, everybody, Derek Tran, where people go to volunteer. If you're in California, you're hearing this drive to Derek's district. We'll be going out there.

[Derek Tran]

I heard you won't be there.

[John Lovett]

No, I will be there.

[Derek Tran]

Oh, okay.

[John Lovett]

What the fuck?

[Kamala Harris]

Team.

[John Lovett]

Team. I'll be there. We're going to be out. We're going to be knocking on doors. But if you're hearing this in Los Angeles, which is. We have a lot of people listening in Los Angeles, there's Derrick's district, there's a few other House districts that will determine Whether or not we take back the House, the House is going to be won or lost in California and New York. Whether you're in California or New York. There's Derrick's district. There's other districts where you can really make a difference. But go knock on doors for Derek. We've got to win that seat.

[Derek Tran]

Yep. Derek tranforcongress.com thank you so much.

[John Lovett]

All right, we are back. Thank you. With Bill Nye. And we're back. Who here is a millennial? Ah, it checks out all right. You know him, you love him. And you will need to chant Bill, Bill, Bill. Whenever I point to you this evening. Bill, Bill, open your hearts. And if you haven't a Roth irae. What? And give it up for the science guy himself. It's Bill Nye. Bill Nye, the science.

[Kamala Harris]

All right.

[John Lovett]

Good to see you. Thanks for being here.

[Jim Rash]

You love that song.

[John Lovett]

Thanks for joining us.

[Jim Rash]

Oh, no, it is I who must thank you.

[John Lovett]

So we were talking about this backstage and the three body problem has just not been solved.

[Jim Rash]

Yeah, it has.

[John Lovett]

I mean, no.

[Jim Rash]

Okay. By okay, I mean okay. You talking about spacecraft navigating in the cosmos. Yeah. I say we. Your tax dollars at work. What happened? What did we do? On Sunday we launched a mission to Europa, the moon of Jupiter with twice as much ocean water as the Earth. You have ocean water for four and a half billion years. Is there somebody living up there on Europa? Europanians swimming around, you think? Could be microbes of Europa. It's a thing. If we discover life on another world, it will change this world back to. You.

[John Lovett]

Sort of dodge my question about the three body problem.

[Jim Rash]

What do you want to know about three body problem? Earth, Moon, spacecraft. Yes. There is not an explicit answer, but you can iterate and do it well enough.

[John Lovett]

What? All right. Well, I guess. Sure.

[Jim Rash]

What am I speaking tonal languages here or something? The Hamiltonian. It's like the Lagrangian in time, you know, Hamiltonian. Yeah.

[John Lovett]

I always thought Lagrange points were cool and that we should be putting stuff there.

[Jim Rash]

We do put stuff there.

[John Lovett]

That's good.

[Jim Rash]

So we have you guys talk about something we take for granted. Halo orbits. The old analogy is the marble on top of the upside down mixing bowl. Very hard. The marble is going to fall. It's unstable. So you guys. Lagrange is where the motions are all in balance. The forces are all in balance. So between the sun, the Earth and the moon, out there is a place where all the forces are in balance. In between there's a place we're in balance between Earth and the sun. There's a place we're in balance. And because the whole thing is going around the sun, this is my around the sun impression. There's also Lagrange points out this way, either side of the orbit. But it's very hard to be there because it's unstable. You'll fall off the upside down mixing bowl. So people put spacecraft in these halo orbits. That's what the description. It's freaking rocket science, man. It is so difficult, and yet humankind does it all the time. Meanwhile, we can't solve these problems on our own planet. They're much harder.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, that's frustrating. Yeah, it is frustrating. It's the incredible human curiosity and ingenuity coming head to head with our deepest flaws and egos and greed, and it's hard to see which one's going to ultimately win. You know, you can't. You can't. That's the. No, no, there's. Those are the three. That's the three body problem, you know, in a sense. In a sense.

[Jim Rash]

Well, it's a hard to solve problem, I'll give you that. Oh, love that song. I love that song.

[John Lovett]

So now.

[Jim Rash]

No, really, it's great.

[John Lovett]

One of the challenges we have is that there's a lot of people spreading a bunch of conspiracy theories.

[Jim Rash]

It is a problem.

[John Lovett]

And you have been out there trying to kind of talk about the truth, get the truth out there. Does it ever feel a little bit like shouting at a hurricane Democrats invented.

[Jim Rash]

With the space lasers?

[John Lovett]

Yeah. Because does it ever feel as though, like, you know, we're not gonna win this fight?

[Jim Rash]

Uh, no. No, you have to be. Look, everybody, you have to be optimistic. If you're not optimistic, you're not going to get anything done. All right? You don't go into the game thinking you're going to lose. However, when you are behind, you have to hustle. And so this. I will just go on and on about this. This is the most important election in history. So I'm so old.

[John Lovett]

How old? How old are you?

[Jim Rash]

So I remember. Well said. So I used to say that the election of 2000 was the most important election of my lifetime. Al Gore wins the popular vote, but he didn't become president. And so we didn't do anything about climate change. And we've been kicking that can down the road into the future. And the stakes, each election, 2004, 8 12, the stakes get higher and higher, and now they're the highest they've ever been for all of us. So please, everybody, vote and if you're thinking about voting for the other side, vote on Wednesday. Be sure to vote on Wednesday.

[John Lovett]

Bill Nye, you scamp.

[Jim Rash]

But you guys, respect, just respect that everybody has somebody in his or her family that is supportive of the other side. That there is another talk show where everybody's just as ticked off and just as cynical and just as mean spirited as the next person. And so they think that we're crazy, but we've got to work together and change the world. And so with that, let us start with this election. We'll just start with that and then we'll take a meeting on all these other problems along about November 6th.

[John Lovett]

I feel like part of the challenge with getting people to vote on climate change is not just the people that deny it, but also the people that believe in it, but feel a bit overwhelmed and feel anxiety and feel like it's unsolvable or we've already passed the point of no return. But you don't believe that.

[Jim Rash]

No, no. Wow. So, everybody, the latest scientific publications suggest that there's not a tipping point. There's no place of no return. It's just gonna get hotter and hotter and spookier and spookier indefinitely. So the sooner we stop pumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, the sooner we can turn this thing around. So let's get going, you all, come on.

[John Lovett]

Are there some technologies that you're particularly excited about?

[Jim Rash]

Yes, yes, I'm excited. I'm not joking you all. So I'm like so many people, I'm into physics. And so you know what we say?

[John Lovett]

What do we say?

[Jim Rash]

Everything happens for a reason. And that reason is usually physics. It's always physics, study of motion and energy. So I think it's always, when I was in school, nuclear fusion, this would be the smashing of protons together, overcoming the strong atomic force, releasing all this energy, heat energy, photons. Like this was always 40 years away. 40 years. Every year was 40 more years. 40 more years. Well, I've traveled the world a little bit. I think it's more like 20 years or 15 years.

[John Lovett]

Cold fusion.

[Jim Rash]

Not cold fusion. No, seriously, you guys. Just for fundamental understanding. Those were people who I think thought that their deity was influencing their role on Earth and they just had instruments in the wrong place and presume. But it was such hype, right?

[John Lovett]

Yeah. Cold fusion.

[Jim Rash]

Cold fusion.

[John Lovett]

It was in the movie the Saints starting. Val Kilmer.

[Jim Rash]

Say it again.

[John Lovett]

Val Kilmer was a movie called the Saint.

[Jim Rash]

Yes.

[John Lovett]

Elizabeth, she was a scientist with kind of asthma.

[Jim Rash]

Proof for you.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, she had asthma. It wasn't asthma something else Heart thing.

[Jim Rash]

So anyway what you need is really really hot fusion.

[John Lovett]

Oh no.

[Jim Rash]

So and so the sounds dangerous. So do you know the definition of temperature?

[John Lovett]

Roughly yeah but they don't. So it's the how fast things are moving.

[Jim Rash]

Yes.

[John Lovett]

Hell yeah.

[Jim Rash]

It's the energy.

[John Lovett]

I'm smarter than I look. Sound and talk.

[Jim Rash]

Yes. Which is amazing. To take it up another level I think we're all just wow. So I mean how can I on the spot now we gotta get these so measure of a thermometer goes up because the atom's molecules hit it and the faster they're going when they hit it the more the temperature the so we have to get these particles going really fast and smash them into each other and we have to contain it in a magnetic field. This is everybody's idea. Five or six a dozen places around the world are trying this in different forms. But it may very well be what's everybody's greatest fear now.

[John Lovett]

Yes, AI Oh I was gonna say you wake up naked in a classroom and you haven't even taken the class.

[Jim Rash]

And it's the final well what's the class about?

[John Lovett]

Maybe statistics.

[Jim Rash]

Oh that would be troubling so hard.

[John Lovett]

Because even if it's open book you're.

[Jim Rash]

Not going to get it Counterintuitive. Yeah, you're right. That's taken that dream up another level of probability. So it is reasonable that containing these moving particles will take a magnetic field that not only responds to the wiggling of the jello of this plasma where all the electrons are dissociated from the atoms but anticipating where they would be moving. And so artificial intelligence systems controlling the magnetic field may solve the problem. And peoples, if we got fusion here on Earth we could in the next say 50 years or 70 years have electricity for everybody all the time. Do all the chatgpt and you want man go crazy. Oh you can solve that problem.

[John Lovett]

Oh, it's getting worse.

[Jim Rash]

It's very reasonable. I'm very excited about it. But we have a problem, you know nimby not in my backyard. Are you hip to banana build? Banana build absolutely nothing anywhere near anything. When you have a society that has that attitude, it's just hard to solve problems. So stay tuned.

[John Lovett]

So another question I had. How do you feel about geoengineering?

[Jim Rash]

You guys, I'm curious. I'm an engineer. You know we start out thinking we can solve any problem with science but when you start messing with stuff in the atmosphere and you start reflecting sunlight into space, what happens when you stop very Troubling.

[John Lovett]

Termination shock. Isn't that what it's called? Termination shock?

[Jim Rash]

It could be very.

[John Lovett]

Thought I had it.

[Jim Rash]

It could really suck if you know that term. And it's just. I think I'm feared that it's wishful thinking. So what happened was volcanoes go off once in a while and these particles go in the sky and they cool things off. But if you're a volcano and you want to affect Earth's climate, you really have to be near the equator. That's really. If you're just like Mount St. Helens or something, you have a little bit of effect, but you're too far north.

[John Lovett]

Stupid Mount St. Helens.

[Jim Rash]

Well, she did what she could, you know.

[John Lovett]

Yeah.

[Jim Rash]

So anyway, this idea that you could take that same phenomenon and control Earth's climate in a way that governments around the world would agree upon is challenging.

[John Lovett]

I read about it in a book. Want to know what the book was called? Yes, it's called termination shock.

[Jim Rash]

Oh, good, okay.

[John Lovett]

And people were so mad about messing.

[Jim Rash]

With the climate and yes, yes, understandable, but we're messing with the climate and people are only somewhat angry about it. So you guys, if you're, you know, my heart goes out to people in Florida and in North Carolina and so on, but man, you can't get insurance. You know, your house is washed away, you've lost everything and you don't have flood insurance and where are you going to go? What are you going to do? Man, we got to. We gotta work together on this. Did I mention voting?

[John Lovett]

You didn't mention it.

[Jim Rash]

Yeah, good.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, my parents are in front of.

[Jim Rash]

What do I say about it?

[John Lovett]

I don't know how far they can get in that cybertruck.

[Jim Rash]

So you guys, does anybody have a cybertruck? Anyway, I just wonder, you know people you cross paths with people. I describe them. People who work for a living and use trucks. Like people who paint houses, mow lawns, repair things, build stuff. They drive trucks. How many of those people drive cybertrucks? I just, I am open minded, man.

[John Lovett]

Based on the number of them in Beverly Hills, I would say the ratio is not where Elon would want it to be.

[Jim Rash]

So look, you guys, I gave back in the day at the Planetary Society, world's largest non governmental space interest organization advancing space science and exploration. Sort of Illuminati will know the cosmos.

[John Lovett]

Illuminati. Fucking Illuminati. Shit. No, that's where you guys are pulling the fucking strings.

[Jim Rash]

Bill Nye, started by Carl Sage.

[John Lovett]

Oh yeah. Another one making the hurricanes.

[Jim Rash]

So it was started By Carl Sagan.

[John Lovett]

Billions and billions of lies took one.

[Jim Rash]

Class from Carl Sagan.

[John Lovett]

My little reference. Never mind.

[Jim Rash]

And so Elon Musk was at one of our meetings. He was on a board of directors. This is 17 years ago, when he was building the Falcon one, trying to get this rocket to fly, because he's into it. He wants to go to Mars, this and that. And at that time, he was introduced as. This is Elon Musk, founder of PayPal. Hi, I'm Elon Musk, founder of PayPal. Elon Musk, founder of PayPal. It wasn't even hyphenated. It was all one word. Elon Musk, founder of PayPal. And that. He was like this regular guy with whom you could talk. And I was trying to be cool. I said, well, what's the specific impulse of this Falcon? When he said, 300 seconds. And that's like, whoa, dude, he's into physics. And so I gave him a ride to the airport. I'm not joking you peoples. And I admit I let him off at a part of LAX that I didn't even know was there. It was. He had, you know, custom flight, what do you call it? Private jet.

[John Lovett]

That's cool.

[Jim Rash]

Anyway. Well, I just wonder, everybody, what's going on with that guy and is he going off on this tangent because he wants deregulation for his rockets in Texas and for whatever is going on with the securities and Exchange Commission that he's got going and what he's got going on with the Federal Communications Commission. I just wonder if his head's really in the game right now or if he's trying to make sure he gets his legal stuff taken care of. So he's just. Man, he has gone, as we say, encompasses 180, man.

[John Lovett]

Bill, we appreciate it.

[Jim Rash]

No, it's a really.

[John Lovett]

I know it's jaw dropping. It is jaw dropping. But speaking of jaw dropping, we have a segment we're calling Bill Nye Just Some Guy.

[Jim Rash]

Oh, yeah, good. Yes.

[John Lovett]

And here's how it works. I'm gonna give you a non scientific topic. Yes, it might be paranormal. It might be extraterrestrial. It might be the Chupacabra. And our request is that you try to give us the most scientific, plausible explanation for that phenomenon. I'm not asking you to debunk the idea. At the same time, you don't need to confirm any of it is real. But if it were real, how could you explain it scientifically?

[Jim Rash]

Sure, sure.

[John Lovett]

All right. You have to be better at chanting. Well, you absolutely panic.

[Jim Rash]

Yeah. And then In a group like this, you know, you gotta build, you gotta have that descending tone.

[John Lovett]

First up, we're gonna start with the UFOs. In April 2020, the Pentagon released three unclassified naval videos of unidentified aerial Phenomenon. I could barely get it together to bang my pots out a window and I love doing that. So I don't know that we're ready to reckon with otherworldly visitors. But, but if you did believe that UFOs were real, how would you justify it scientifically?

[Jim Rash]

Well, I would just of course, send them a binary signal based on the resonance of the hydrogen atom. I mean, how hard could it be? And so because any alien's going to recognize you, they're going to get this tone, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. And they'll just know that that's, that's obviously a binary signal that has some geometric origin. And what would it be based on? The most common element in the universe, which is hydrogen. Yes. I love you all. And so in just five or ten minutes, us, or rather Earth minutes, an alien will be all over it. And so this is the gold records that are on the Voyager spacecraft. That's sort of the premise of the bit. Any alien will find this record, play it at 16 and a half revolutions per earth minute, get the sounds of whales and people in love and Chuck Berry doing Johnny B. Goode, and then we'll all be intergalactic, or rather intragalactic buddies.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, well, they could be, yeah. Do you think wormholes could be a way to get around the speed of light limit?

[Jim Rash]

Well, well, get around the old speed of light limit. It sucks.

[John Lovett]

It ruins everything. It sucks. I hate the speed of light.

[Jim Rash]

Yeah, I'm actually, I think I'm okay with it. I grew up with it, you know, and it's just been, it's been part of my everyday experience day. See, we got it. Thanks. So it doesn't bother me, I don't think, you know, hey, who doesn't love Wrinkle in Time Tesseract? We take the ends of the string and put them together. So there you are. You can go anywhere in the universe just by jumping through the wormhole. I'm open minded, but skeptical. Keep in mind that black holes, these stars that have so much gravity, how much gravity do they have? Light can't even. You're beheaded. Light can't even escape. They would kill you on the way in. You would be. The fabulous verb is spaghettified. The gravity at your feet. The gradient between your feet and your Head would be so hard, so strong. You would be stretched into, you know, a 50 kilometer long string of death.

[John Lovett]

Disagree. You say disagree, I don't think that's what happens.

[Jim Rash]

Well, what do you think happens?

[John Lovett]

No, it's something else.

[Jim Rash]

Oh, cool. Maybe you end up in another part of the universe at another time.

[John Lovett]

That's what I was hoping.

[Jim Rash]

Cool. But can you control it? I don't know.

[John Lovett]

One thing, why don't you just go in real slow?

[Jim Rash]

It's hard to do.

[John Lovett]

You gotta go in just at an angle. Real slow, real slow. Gotta try it really slow, but go feel fast.

[Jim Rash]

Well, that's gravity assist. Yeah, well, let us know how it goes. I'll stay out here and we won't even know what happens to you because the light couldn't get out. Whoa.

[John Lovett]

Unless that. Unless I pop out. Unless I pop out a few minutes earlier here and then I run in and I'm like, no. But then that would have always had happened.

[Jim Rash]

Yeah, what about that?

[John Lovett]

Well, what if there was a wormhole that then sent you back in time? Would you be able to.

[Jim Rash]

Do it?

[John Lovett]

So.

[Jim Rash]

There'S a, there's a guy, rather a theory where you can build a time machine, but you can only go.

[John Lovett]

Back to when the time machine was.

[Jim Rash]

Invented because what a rip off, man.

[John Lovett]

Sorry. Well, obviously.

[Jim Rash]

Freaking universe.

[John Lovett]

It's stupid.

[Jim Rash]

Fuck you, cosmos. Sorry, man. There are rules for those of us, you know here on Earth and everything. Some of my best friends are here.

[John Lovett]

Yeah. And also some people I hate.

[Jim Rash]

I notice that.

[John Lovett]

Is there any way that you could come up with a scientifically plausible explanation for why horoscopes are real?

[Jim Rash]

Yeah, it's very reasonable to me that people have sex at different times of year and so the kids they have are born in different times of year and so they show up with different personalities because their parents are in a different mood at different times of year.

[John Lovett]

That was always my only plausible explanation too, that if you're born in the summer and you miss, you don't get a birthday cake on your day at school, but only on the summer cake day that you share. It makes you a little weird, which is why summer birthdays, present company included, seek so much attention. And then there are the people born around Christmas and they are either wallflowers were the craziest motherfuckers you'll ever meet.

[Jim Rash]

Is there a gradient, that is to say between mid summer and Christmas, Isaac Newton's birthday where has happened in Britain? Yeah. Is there a gradient between severe disappointment and fucking crazy?

[John Lovett]

Yeah. Yeah, I think it's A smooth curve.

[Jim Rash]

Yeah, a smooth curve. So you should publish a treatise on this.

[John Lovett]

I should.

[Jim Rash]

So, you know, there's an old saying in skeptic thought or critical thinking. Everybody loves critical thinking nowadays. It used to be when I was a kid that used to be called logic or reasoning or something, but. No, but critical thinking is a phrase right now. That's good. It means the habit or it refers to the habit of mind, of evaluating evidence. And so one of the turns of phrase that we love in this skeptic world is correlation is not causation. This is to say, just because you're born in the summertime crazy holiday thing correlates, doesn't mean that the horoscope caused it, the planets caused it.

[John Lovett]

Would you say that me being a bit needy caused the summer.

[Jim Rash]

Or is this so? What makes me skeptical of that claim is my understanding is you're quite a bit younger than my parents and my parents reported experience summer every year.

[John Lovett]

Right, right, right.

[Jim Rash]

For some reason, I don't know why that would be. I wouldn't be curious about it.

[John Lovett]

Now, before we go, Bill, you have going.

[Jim Rash]

We're just revving up the climate.

[John Lovett]

You started Bill Nye the Climate Guy on your Instagram to urge people to vote with the climate in mind. These videos are part of Climate powers Too Hot not to Vote campaign. A campaign Vote Save America is also supporting. So we really wanted to premiere the next video.

[Jim Rash]

Oh, thank you.

[John Lovett]

We have the next video. Let's play it.

[Jim Rash]

Roll that. Hello, millennials, Gen Zersters, Gen Weisters, and really kids of all ages. I know you have concerns about your future, the cost of just living, having enough money for food, rent, or for those kids you might want to have one day. But along with all that, the Earth is getting warmer. The climate is changing worldwide. There are more floods, more droughts, more fires and less ice. Our planet is getting hotter and hotter. We need to take action. We need to be creating new jobs. The clean energy plan is just to start. And if you're on the fence, get off it. Because of one side of the fence is a bright green future for all humankind. The other side will lead us to an oily dry death. I'm not kidding, people vote. Your future is in your hands. Register on those electric phone machines of yours. Go to Too Hot not and learn how to vote early in your state.

[John Lovett]

I like that.

[Jim Rash]

So we did.

[John Lovett]

Thank you, man.

[Jim Rash]

Thank you for showing that. This is a world premiere, you all.

[John Lovett]

We're at the premiere, so thank you.

[Jim Rash]

We did six videos with Too Hot not to vote. It's like toy boat, toy boat. Too hot not to vote. And we have them come out every week up to the election. There'll be a couple bonus sprinkles in on election day or the day before. So everybody, it's really important. You know, there's a lot of things on everybody's mind. This business of women's rights, control of your bodies, trying to suppress the vote in a lot of districts in the United States, these are important issues. They're racial or ancestral issues that are important, but the climate is really important and young people are concerned about it. So it's too hot not to vote. Carry on.

[John Lovett]

Yes. It's like you can choose a clean energy future or a dry, oily death. And it's like dry, oily death. Is that the. If Trump wins or my combination skin. All right.

[Jim Rash]

Are you a summer? You are a summer.

[John Lovett]

You bet I am.

[Jim Rash]

You did the colors.

[John Lovett]

You bet I am.

[Jim Rash]

That's why you don't wear blue or something like that.

[John Lovett]

Something like that.

[Jim Rash]

He's got pink shoes. He's a summer.

[John Lovett]

He's a summer.

[Jim Rash]

Proof of the paranormal. I'm satisfied. I believe in ghosts now.

[John Lovett]

Ooh, ghosts. Too hot. Nodtovote.com, check your registration status, make a plan to vote and learn about your candidates climate records. When we come back, it's time to spin the wheel. Woo.

[Derek Tran]

Don't go anywhere. This is Love it or Leave it. And there's more on the way.

[John Lovett]

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[Kamala Harris]

Maybe a standing O for you from you.

[John Lovett]

From you right there in the mirror. It's sometimes hard to remind ourselves that we are trying our best to make sense of everything. And in this crazy world, that isn't easy, here's a reminder to send some thanks to the people in your life, including yourself. If you're thinking of starting therapy, give better help a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible and suited to your schedule. Just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with a licensed therapist and switch therapists anytime for no additional charge. It's now the time of the election season where I realize that the low hum of anxiety of the election is hitting me in other places. Same like, I'm starting to realize, like, oh, that's why I'm in such a bad mood. The country's on the precipice of decline.

[Derek Tran]

Like, my tummy hurts.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kamala Harris]

Why all the time.

[John Lovett]

Oh, yeah. It's weird that I have all of a sudden. It's also just all of a sudden I realize that, like, oh, there's Tums in my car now. You know, I think maybe you turn 40 and then, like, the Tums appear. The Tums.

[Derek Tran]

I take a couple every day just.

[John Lovett]

To be proactive, you know, like, I got acid reflux. I got trump reflux. Huh? That's what's happening right now, that feeling in your chest. The point is, you need therapy. And if you're like me and scheduled a podcast recording where your therapy used to be, you realize how much that was a mistake. If you're thinking of starting therapy, give better help a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, suited to your schedule. Just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched licensed therapist and switch therapist anytime for no additional charge. Let the gratitude flow with better help. Visit betterhelp.com love it today. To get 10% off your first month, that's better help. Hp.com love it. And we're back. If my chat with Bill Nye inspired you. And it did. What the. They're terrible at cheering.

[Jim Rash]

I love that song.

[John Lovett]

With Vote save America's build your own ballot tool, you can learn what's on your ballot wherever you live. Fill out a practice ballot in just a few clicks. Be prepared to cast your ballot for the climate on or before November 5th. Please go to votesaveamerica.comclimate to check it out. Now. This message has been paid for by votesaveamerica. You can learn [e-mail] this ad has not been authorized by any candidate or candidates committee. All right, Please welcome Jim and Derek back to the stage.

[Jim Rash]

Oh, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gentlemen, good to see you.

[Bill Nye]

Good.

[John Lovett]

Welcome back. Good to see ya.

[Kamala Harris]

Another handshake. Another handshake.

[John Lovett]

All right, here we are. In the spirit of Trump putting his foot down and doing what we all wish we had the courage to do. Canceling on plans last minute, no matter the consequences. We're going to play a game called Cancel and Gretel. We'll each take a spin of the wheel and share one event that everyone should be able to skip, no questions asked. Now to the wheel.

[Kamala Harris]

I forgot when I was a witch and I was so mean to you guys when you came by my candy house.

[John Lovett]

Oh, Jim, it's landed on you. Okay, what is something you think everybody should be able to cancel on or skip?

[Kamala Harris]

Can I? I think we should be able to cancel small talk. Like if you're at a party, which is my pet, you know, and you're in small talk with someone you know, and we're in the middle of it and you're just like, we know how we are. And we just go, you know, I'm gonna. I'm so click to cancel this.

[Jim Rash]

Well, what happens when you can't? What happens. Do you leave?

[Kamala Harris]

I think that's just understood. Like, we're done. Let's move on to the. Let's move past the small talk and get to the really good stuff.

[Jim Rash]

So what's the really good stuff? How to resolve a two state solution.

[Kamala Harris]

Well, absolutely. I really want to. I really want to dig deep into that part.

[John Lovett]

I would say that's big talk. Maybe there's medium talk.

[Kamala Harris]

What?

[John Lovett]

That was big talk, small talk. So no big talk. Challenging. Maybe there's medium talk.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah, just something.

[Jim Rash]

What do you think of the new stingray Corvette body style? Is that medium?

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah. What I love is that I would go probably to the Corvettes. Is that where I'm going?

[John Lovett]

Yeah, you go right to Corvettes.

[Kamala Harris]

That's a classic thing for me.

[John Lovett]

Enough about the wither.

[Kamala Harris]

Hey, how are you? Corvettes, Am I right?

[Jim Rash]

Oh, I know what you're saying.

[Kamala Harris]

And by then I'm off to that two stage. I just find that, you know, you go to the parties now and it's like impossible because you walk in and you find yourself an hour later still staying in the same place because you're seeing. This is people that you know, these are your friends and they haven't seen you in a while. And you start with, how are you? How are you? Oh, my God. And then you say something like, oh, my God, I saw you went camping because they saw you on Instagram. I did go camping. Which you already know. Then someone inevitably comes over and they don't wait. They just say, hey, how are you? Hey, I saw you went camping. Now you're gonna hear the goddamn camping story again. So I would just say, I'm out. Small talk canceled. And then we go, ah, we relax and we talk about Corvettes.

[Derek Tran]

It's like we're still doing the weaving segment.

[Kamala Harris]

We are.

[John Lovett]

We're always Weaving. This show is a nonstop weave.

[Kamala Harris]

Think we're learning a lot about it.

[John Lovett]

We're learning a lot. No, but I agree with you. There are also people that have this deft touch to say, please excuse me. And I see those people and I marvel at them. There are people that can extract themselves from a conversation effortlessly. Don't try it right now, Bill. I see that look in your eyes. I see it.

[Kamala Harris]

I see it.

[John Lovett]

Don't try it. Don't you dare. Don't hurt my feelings for the second time tonight. All right. How did I hurt your feelings? No, Derek. Hurt my feelings.

[Jim Rash]

Can you.

[John Lovett]

You never hurt my feelings. A little bit. You hurt my feelings. Let's spin it. Derek. What's something you'd like to cancel?

[Derek Tran]

What about reality TVs that kick you off after the first episode? That's for you, John.

[John Lovett]

No. Wow. No, that's for you. Wow. Pandering.

[Kamala Harris]

That's for you. Pandering.

[John Lovett]

You flipped it. You got it back. You got it back. I liked it. I liked it. That's why he's gonna win. That's why he's gonna be. Win that 45th district and then surround Disney and have them right where we want them. We'll get it. Get that. Get that kingdom. I support that. All right, let's spin it again.

[Kamala Harris]

Oh, shock.

[Jim Rash]

What?

[Kamala Harris]

Can you believe it?

[Jim Rash]

Can you just. Amazing.

[John Lovett]

It's landed on Bill Nye.

[Kamala Harris]

It was perfect. One on each other.

[Jim Rash]

Wow.

[John Lovett]

It's almost as if the wheel is stupid and there's no function in this.

[Kamala Harris]

No, no.

[Jim Rash]

So I say if. If people have put you in an arranged marriage and there's a date selected, I think you could cancel on that.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah.

[Jim Rash]

Yeah. I think that would be an example.

[John Lovett]

I think that's a really important point. I'll go even further.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

I think, think basically as a society, we should just have a. If you cancel your wedding, everyone's fine with it because. And no one makes a big deal out of it. And even though it's a lot of money and a lot of plans, everyone just goes, you know what? If you cancel this wedding, you have your reasons. We're not even going to bring it up again. Everybody. Because there are people that go through weddings because they're afraid to cancel the wedding because of how much problems it would cause to cancel the wedding. But then you know what? They are married.

[Jim Rash]

Oh, tell us about that.

[John Lovett]

And they win. I don't know about that. I know about not getting married. I don't know about getting married yet. But my point is, people should Just be able to cancel weddings. Because if. Then people wouldn't go through weddings that they didn't want to go through because of the pressure that comes along with canceling them.

[Kamala Harris]

I mean, you. No.

[Jim Rash]

Right on.

[Kamala Harris]

No, he's.

[John Lovett]

All I'm saying, he's working.

[Jim Rash]

Especially if it's arranged. Right. Someone else puts you in the position.

[John Lovett]

Every wedding range.

[Kamala Harris]

Once you cancel that. Once you cancel that wedding, you get in that Corvette and you just drive.

[Jim Rash]

And you just go camping and you.

[Kamala Harris]

Just live your life.

[Jim Rash]

Carry on. Sorry. I was looking for a topper, but the Corvette was pretty good.

[Kamala Harris]

That was your.

[John Lovett]

It was a weave. All right, let's spin it again.

[Kamala Harris]

Oh, shock.

[John Lovett]

I have a very. This may be too specific. There's a lot of gyms and gym classes where when you sign up, there's this moment 12 hours before where you have to decide whether you're in or you're out. And it sucks because it's like I want to decide in the morning and I would like to have some sort of way of arranging with a place, say, look, look, I won't cancel all the time. I'll show up a lot of the time. But please, a $15 charge. Because I just don't wanna go. It's too much. It's too much, and I hate that. Cause then I go and I don't wanna go.

[Jim Rash]

Aren't you. For me? Don't you get there. And once it starts, you feel pretty good.

[John Lovett]

Yeah.

[Jim Rash]

Yeah. And you're glad you did it.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, No, I am.

[Jim Rash]

So you're just this anxiety man, but.

[John Lovett]

I would like the option.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

I don't. I feel. I feel manipulated.

[Jim Rash]

So what if it were. Instead of $15, what if it were $5?

[John Lovett]

Well, the problem is, you know, they know you well, they know that I'll pay five dollars every goddamn five. Five dollars is a snooze. A snooze fee, you know, there's a penalty and a fee are basically the same thing. A parking ticket is really just a parking fee if you're in the right headspace.

[Jim Rash]

Yes, I feel that way. Yes. About parking. Yes. There are people who feel that way. Not. I mean, I've heard. So if it were.

[John Lovett]

Do you drive?

[Jim Rash]

12.

[John Lovett]

Do you drive?

[Jim Rash]

Yeah. A car? Yes.

[John Lovett]

Well, yeah. It's just hard to imagine why.

[Jim Rash]

Why?

[John Lovett]

I don't know.

[Jim Rash]

So I'm so old.

[John Lovett]

No, no, no. It's not an age thing. It's not an age thing.

[Jim Rash]

I'm driving a stick shift. Do you drive a stick ship?

[John Lovett]

Obviously not. Look at.

[Jim Rash]

Look at How I'm of a certain age, but now in electric car you don't. There's nothing to shift. I just so you know, that's a. My grandfather rode a horse in World War I. But you don't need to do that anymore, right? No, you don't need to drive a stick shift anymore. So yes, I drive a car and it's great. I don't get any plug for this. Why not? But I have a Chevy Bolt. Okay. A Chevrolet.

[Kamala Harris]

Okay.

[Jim Rash]

And it's not the Tesla with dual motors or the Corvette with the camping option.

[Kamala Harris]

Yeah, you know I have that.

[Jim Rash]

Yeah, it's.

[John Lovett]

What is it?

[Jim Rash]

It follows the car in front of you. It stays in the lane. You can take your hands off the steering wheel, light up your cigarette or whatever it is.

[Kamala Harris]

Wait, what?

[Jim Rash]

And it just drives down the road. And it's much safer than watching as a human and trying to react. And so the future is cars are going to drive themselves and we'll be productive in a way in the backseat.

[John Lovett]

This started off about how you do drive. It ended on how the car drives for you. Do you. You smoke cigarettes, Bill Nye?

[Jim Rash]

No, no. I got so on camera, you guys, I smoked one cigarette. About half a cigarette. How do you guys do that?

[John Lovett]

Don't do it, man.

[Jim Rash]

I am not cut out for you.

[Kamala Harris]

How do you guys do it? Like we're out just smoking a pack.

[Jim Rash]

Well, you guys are. Yeah.

[John Lovett]

What circumstances were you smoking?

[Jim Rash]

National Geographic thing. National Geographic about climate change. And this is where I got to do a scene with Arnold Schwarzenegger. And at one point in the show I got to say, I'll be back. It was cool. So Schwarzenegger, you guys, between takes place chess with his buddy from Austria. And how to describe. He plays chess hard. Like he's just that guy. He's quite charming. A digression. I don't think he smokes either. Back to you.

[Kamala Harris]

I mean, that's a weave and that's a weave.

[Jim Rash]

It was beautiful. It was a beautiful weave.

[Kamala Harris]

That was a beautiful weave.

[Jim Rash]

Came together and fought and it just came together.

[Kamala Harris]

It came right back. I mean when you. You went from bolt to I think you're in a self driving car to. You only smoke half cigarette. Apparently we smoke a pack a day then aren't working. Oh my God.

[John Lovett]

And please. Playing chess while he plays it hard. He plays it hard. And. And that's. What did we call it? Cancel and Gretel. A segment we all remember when we come back Len on a high note. And we're back because we all need it this week. Here is our high note. Hey.

[H]

Love it. This is Iowa state representative J.D. scholten. Being the only Democrat at the Iowa Capitol in 32 Counties in Northwest Iowa isn't always easy. But I wanted to share some good news. This past summer, I became the first person to play professional baseball while still being in office. And my high note is that this week, I had three different teammates reach out to me to tell me that they're going to be voting for Kamala. Two of them weren't going to be voting, and the other was going to be voting for Trump. So as a reminder, talk to your friends, people. This race is going to come down the wire. And remember to vote down ballot. Thank you.

[I]

My high note this week is celebrating the fourth birthday of my bakery here in Boston. We were slated to open in April of 2020 when the pandemic hit really hard and construction and everything else got delayed. So we didn't open until October, and it was brutal. But once we opened, the community really embraced us. Since then, we've built an incredible team, made some really great relationships with neighbors, and I'm very proud of the work that we do, the food that we make, and the service that we provide. I also this summer gave birth to my first child, Clementine. And I was only able to do that as a small business owner because of our team and my sister, who's our operations manager, being able to run the business in my absence. It is very special for a small business owner to be able to take family paternity maternity leave and spend that special time with their child. So I am very grateful for that opportunity and for the people who made that possible. So lots of things to celebrate. Feeling very emotional upon reflection, and it's not just the postpartum hormones, but truly a high note of the week and a high note of the year.

[John Lovett]

Thanks everybody who shared a high note tonight. If you want to send us a message, but something that made you feel hopeful, send a voice memo to lowly high notes, crooked.com, where you can leave it in the discord that is our show. Thank you.

[Jim Rash]

So hold it. You're going to introduce the high note and nobody's going to go, oh, well, you just.

[John Lovett]

You just did.

[Kamala Harris]

You did it.

[John Lovett]

You just did.

[Jim Rash]

I was just. I was leaning into it. It. And.

[Kamala Harris]

Do you want to. You want to take it again?

[John Lovett]

Yeah. All right, here it is, the high note. One, two, three.

[Jim Rash]

Comedy is that simple, people?

[John Lovett]

That's our show. Thank you so much to Jim Rash, Derek Tran and Bill nye there are 16. Oh my God. There are 16 days until the 2024 election. Have a great night and have a great weekend. Love it or Leave it is a Crooked Media production. It is written and produced by me, John Lovett and Lee Eisenberg. Kendra James is our executive producer, Chris Lord is our producer and Kennedy Hill is our Associate producer. Hallie Kiefer is our head writer, Sarah Lazarus and Jocelyn Kaufman, Peter Miller, Alan Pierre, Will Miles and Mohanad El Shiki are our writers. Evan Sutton is our editor, Kyle Seglin and Charlotte Landis provide audio support. Stephen Colon is our audio engineer and Milo Kim is our videographer. Our theme song is written and performed by sure Shure. Thanks to our designer Bernardo Serna for creating and running all of our visuals, which you can't see because this is a podcast. And to our digital producers David Toles, Claudia Shang, Mia kelman and Matt DeGroote for filming and editing Editing video each week so you can skip the waiting room Tirerack.com now offers convenient mobile tire installation in select areas. Simply shop tirerack.com for your next set of tires and at checkout choose Tire Rack Mobile Tire Installation. An expertly trained technician will arrive with your tires and install them on site, at home, at the office, wherever you are. You'll spend less time waiting and more time doing the things you enjoy. Tirerack.com the way tire buying should be.

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