Subscriber Exclusive: Terminally Online

Summary

Lovett or Leave It – Episode: Subscriber Exclusive: Terminally Online
Host: Jon Lovett
Release Date: November 30, 2024
Summary by Crooked Media

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1. RFK Jr.'s Social Media Controversy

[00:40 – 06:53]

The episode kicks off with a deep dive into a recent controversy involving Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) on social media. A TikTok video from 2022 surfaced showing Tyler Idol, a porn actress with an OnlyFans account, interacting with RFK Jr.'s verified account. This incident raised eyebrows, especially among MAGA supporters who questioned RFK Jr.’s intentions and authenticity.

Key Points:

• Incident Overview: RFK Jr. allegedly liked and commented on a TikTok video by Tyler Idol, leading to speculation about his online behavior.
• RFK Jr.'s Response: RFK Jr. claimed the comment originated from a previous account managed by a campaign social media manager, Rajan Murphy, who transferred the account to RFK Jr. in April 2023 for his presidential announcement.
• Skepticism and Analysis: The hosts express skepticism about RFK Jr.’s explanation, noting inconsistencies and the disappearance of Rajan Murphy from social media platforms.

Notable Quotes:

• Jon Favreau ([02:16]): "The TikTok comment in question was made in 2022, long before I ever had a TikTok account."
• Jon Lovett ([03:47]): "You listen? I listen. I don't know a lot of words to say. It wasn't me yanking the cord, you know."
• Tommy Vietor ([05:18]): "It's where he's claiming he wasn't doing the shooting... That's RFK Jr. Hard to."

The discussion highlights the potential manipulation of social media accounts in political campaigns and raises questions about RFK Jr.'s transparency and credibility.

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2. Tucker Carlson's Alleged Demon Attack

[25:35 – 34:28]

In a surprising turn, the hosts examine a viral video featuring Tucker Carlson recounting an alleged supernatural attack by a demon. The story involves Carlson waking up with claw marks after being attacked while asleep with his wife and four dogs.

Key Points:

• The Incident: Carlson describes waking up with claw marks on his ribcage and shoulder, claiming a demon or an unseen force was responsible.
• Skeptical Analysis: The hosts propose alternative explanations such as sleep paralysis, hallucinations, or misinterpretations involving his dogs.
• Cultural References: Elijah references various cultural folklore about night demons to contextualize the experience.
• Mental Health Considerations: The possibility of Carlson experiencing a psychotic break is discussed, especially in light of his previous health scares and hospitalizations.

Notable Quotes:

• Elijah ([28:13]): "Have you ever had sleep paralysis?"
• Emily Heller ([29:08]): "He's the Rizzler because he has a good Rizz face, which is like the Chad face."
• Tommy Vietor ([32:03]): "This is a piece of that puzzle."

The segment concludes with a consensus that Carlson's claims are likely exaggerated or fabricated, emphasizing the importance of critical thinking when evaluating such extraordinary assertions.

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3. Trend Analysis: Balkan Breakfast TikToks

[13:23 – 22:01]

The hosts explore the viral TikTok trend dubbed "Balkan Breakfast," featuring videos of individuals consuming breakfast in an unusually rapid and almost ritualistic manner. These videos showcase men eating various foods with minimal facial expressions, creating a hypnotic and repetitive viewing experience.

Key Points:

• Video Description: A man consumes a mix of vegetables, cheese, and beverages in a continuous, rhythmic pattern without pauses.
• Cultural Exploration: The hosts discuss the origins and potential cultural significance of Balkan breakfast habits, although they acknowledge limited knowledge about the actual Balkan region's breakfast customs.
• Psychological Impact: Jon Lovett compares the eating rhythm to Philip Glass's music, highlighting the hypnotic and perpetual nature of the videos.
• Community Reaction: The hosts express fascination and amusement over the trend, noting its pervasive presence on TikTok and its ability to captivate viewers.

Notable Quotes:

• Jon Lovett ([16:34]): "It's like Philip Glass's music and the way it rises and falls but never completes."
• Tommy Vietor ([18:57]): "Super dork... The best feeling."

The discussion underscores how social media can popularize niche behaviors, turning them into widespread phenomena that both entertain and perplex audiences.

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4. Content Drama: Rizzler and Big Justice

[34:06 – 41:34]

The episode delves into the ongoing drama within the TikTok community involving content creators Rizzler and Big Justice. This segment examines interpersonal conflicts, content rivalries, and the impact of young influencers on the platform.

Key Points:

• Background: Big Justice and AJ are a father-son duo known for their viral "We're Costco Guys" video. They have expanded their team to include family members and other creators, such as Ashley, Angelo, and Sally Slices.
• Rizzler's Role: Rizzler, a seven-year-old TikTok star known for his "Rizz face," becomes central to the conflict as his increasing popularity leads to tensions with Big Justice.
• Conflict Details: Petty disagreements and competitive behavior among the creators have sparked widespread attention and memes within the TikTok community.
• Ethical Concerns: The hosts express discomfort with the involvement of young children in the high-stakes environment of influencer culture, highlighting issues of consent and the potential long-term effects on the children involved.

Notable Quotes:

• Jon Lovett ([37:55]): "I think this is what a definition of a six is."
• Tommy Vietor ([35:22]): "They have this phrase, like, we bring the boom."
• Elijah ([35:51]): "Maybe just entertain the theory that Tucker has been having a many year long psychotic break."

The conversation reflects broader concerns about the commercialization of childhood and the pressures faced by young influencers, questioning the sustainability and ethics of such content-driven careers.

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Conclusion

In this subscriber-exclusive episode of "Lovett or Leave It," Jon Lovett and the crew navigate through a series of online controversies and trends, dissecting the behaviors of public figures and the dynamics within social media communities. From RFK Jr.’s questionable social media activity to the bizarre tales of Tucker Carlson, and from the rhythmic allure of Balkan Breakfast videos to the intense rivalries among TikTok stars, the hosts provide incisive commentary and critical analysis. This episode underscores the complexities of navigating the digital landscape and the repercussions of online actions on public perception and personal reputations.

Notable Closing Quote:

• Jon Lovett ([41:34]): "You should be shot out of a cannon for even telling us about this. None of us should know it. It's the fucking ring."

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This summary captures the essence of the "Terminally Online" episode, highlighting the main discussions and providing context for each topic covered.

Transcript

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[Jon Lovett]

And now here it is, Terminally Online.

[Tommy Vietor]

Jon Favreau. When were you two online? This week.

[Jon Favreau]

Okay, so we all know RFK Jr. So someone posted this on X this week. So what we're looking at Here is a TikTok video from 2022. That woman is named Tyler Idol. She's a porn actress. She's got an OnlyFans account. She's on TikTok a lot. And on one of her videos there's Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Verified account replying.

[Jon Lovett]

Wow, you might say he believes in that moon landing.

[Jon Favreau]

And there's two little hearts, smiley emojis.

[Elijah]

Yeah, the smiley kind of sheepish with the three hearts.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah. So the, the Maga person, I think his name is like Maga Joe or something that put it up. He, he revealed this and then a lot of People said, wow, he's just. He's like a very Ted Cruz. Liking the. Liking the porn on 9 11. Remember that?

[Elijah]

One of the best things that ever happened.

[Jon Favreau]

That's ever happened.

[Elijah]

I mean, there's a lot of bad options and very few good options on 911.

[Jon Favreau]

So people were wondering why he was liking this, why he was commenting on this. And then we got. I didn't think we were going to get an explanation. We got this explanation from RFK Jr. Three parts.

[Jon Lovett]

So complicated.

[Jon Favreau]

The first. The first tweet is, do people really think I was tick tocking in 2022? Which two years ago is a one. It's a wild thing to tweet. Like, that's. That's your kickoff to this. So do people think. And then he says, The TikTok comment in question was made in 2022, long before I ever had a TikTok account. This comment now appears on my account because the account was previously owned by one of the campaign's young social media managers. And then he said, when I announced my run for the presidency In April of 2023, the team wanted it broadcast on every social platform, including TikTok. However, TikTok does not allow live streaming for accounts that have less than a thousand followers, fewer than the social. The social media manager decided to transfer his account, which had around 1500 followers, to me, in order to stream my announcement on TikTok. All right, what do we think? We believe it.

[Jon Lovett]

You listen? I listen. I don't know a lot of words to say. It wasn't me yanking the cord, you know.

[Elijah]

Also, John, to your point about him saying in back in 2022, it was September of 2020, like Q4. Is that 3 or 4? I have no idea what Q they are.

[Jon Favreau]

It sounds like Q4.

[Jon Lovett]

Thank you.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah, I mean, I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. Remember when you farted at the dinner, too?

[Jon Lovett]

Yes. Oh, my.

[Elijah]

Was that a bbl? Could have been foreign policy.

[Jon Lovett]

Wasn't that the dinner? He had a dinner where, like, several ancient columnists started bickering and then somebody farted. That was the funniest thing. Incredible.

[Jon Favreau]

So one of the great journalistic institutions left of our time, the Daily Mail, wrote a whole story about this. And the campaign didn't just like. It didn't just stop at a young social media manager. The campaign gave the guy's name.

[Jon Lovett]

Oh, no.

[Jon Favreau]

And picture to the Daily Mail and a picture of him with RFK Jr. His name is Rajan Murphy, 33, from Georgia. And he was like, yeah, I was supposed to set. And they give this whole explanation. He's like, I was supposed to set up the account, and I was just moving too fast. And I didn't think that all of my old comments would be deleted, but they are. And so I don't know if he's. Now he's the fall guy for this, or it's really true, because when you look for him now, he has no social media accounts anywhere. So this is a guy who supposedly had, like, a lot of followers on TikTok, but now he is not on TikTok, Instagram, or anywhere else to be found.

[Elijah]

Well, I mean, traditionally, RFK Jr. Has been real straight shooters. You know, you can take him at his word.

[Jon Lovett]

Well, I mean, yeah, this is where he's claiming he wasn't doing the shooting.

[Jon Favreau]

Actually, I will say, like, the video itself was not explicit. Like, it's not a. It's an embarrassing. Embarrassing thing to. But he. They. I'm surprised how much attention they drew to it.

[Tommy Vietor]

Yes, he more forcefully pushed back on this than the leaked video of him saying that Covid targets white people and black people, but not Jews and Chinese people. This is where he draws a line. This is his line in the sand.

[Jon Favreau]

I feel like he's really. Yeah. What makes me most suspicious about it is that they went so hard at trying to debunk this.

[Jon Lovett]

You know, every once in a while, there'll be a story about a corruption scandal or a crime committed by a campaign or congressional office, and some young person will end up in jail because they followed. They just, like, they went along with something that they shouldn't have gone along with. And they thought, like, you know, they didn't. They didn't listen to their little voice telling them that, like, this is just a job. Don't. Don't give up your own reputation for that of a politician. And in this case, I'm glad this guy fucking set himself on fire for RFK Jr. You deserve everything you're getting if you think that this cause. This cause is so fucking worthy that you're gonna be like, no, no, no, I'm Spartacus. It's my fucking. It's my wank. Like, I was horny.

[Tommy Vietor]

I was horny in 2013.

[Elijah]

I was horny.

[Jon Lovett]

That's mine. Not.

[Tommy Vietor]

No.

[Jon Lovett]

No, it's not RFK Jr. Hard to.

[Elijah]

Get a handle on RFKs thought pattern.

[Jon Lovett]

Huh? Huh?

[Tommy Vietor]

I got it, Tommy. That's pretty good.

[Elijah]

Thanks, Elijah. Just like you don't speak, bro. It Wasn't even. It wasn't even. Jesus.

[Jon Favreau]

You don't even know who's in the super bowl next weekend.

[Elijah]

Super dork.

[Jon Lovett]

Of course I do. The Jews told me six weeks ago. We met in the basement.

[Tommy Vietor]

What a decision we made.

[Jon Lovett]

We met in the basement. We were like, everybody feel good about taking those golds from those Russians and giving them to the Americans? Like, yes, we need the win.

[Jon Favreau]

Oh, my God.

[Jon Lovett]

And then we said 49ers versus, you know, obviously Travis's team.

[Elijah]

I'm taken aback by the fact that it was just. It really not that racy a picture at all.

[Jon Lovett]

Right.

[Elijah]

It could be in any catalog for clothing, but her.

[Jon Lovett]

Well, yeah, you know, catalogs.

[Jon Favreau]

I'll tell you, though, we all have catalogs.

[Elijah]

Websites.

[Jon Favreau]

Her only fans is blowing up. She's now posting videos about being the RFK junior girl. Yeah, someone made out great in this whole thing.

[Jon Lovett]

There's something to be said about it. Look, I just think something about a grassy knoll. All right. End of.

[Elijah]

End of thought I was going to say.

[Jon Lovett]

Yes.

[Tommy Vietor]

Avoid.

[Emily Heller]

Is it a bad time to tell you that I've been liking only fangirls on all of your accounts right now?

[Jon Lovett]

Thank you.

[Emily Heller]

As a social maven, I am that brings.

[Jon Favreau]

I have a question for you. Like, is it possible to transfer your TikTok account? And then because there's a new handle that just says the Kennedy 2024 campaign, there's like, no traces of it being an old.

[Emily Heller]

No, it's not. No.

[Jon Favreau]

So he's full of shit. Yeah, I love this.

[Emily Heller]

Full of shit and horrible.

[Jon Favreau]

I was hoping that we'd have a social. I was hoping we'd have one of our social media experts here.

[Emily Heller]

I only know this because Amelia, our old social maven, she had to make another account because she wanted to try something completely different. And so you have to start from the ground up for the most part.

[Jon Favreau]

This is Bullshit.

[Elijah]

Bootstrapping it.

[Jon Favreau]

2022. Who was TikToking in 2022? Q4.

[Jon Lovett]

I wasn't even horny in Q3.

[Elijah]

Meanwhile, he was cut to him, shirtless in jeans, lifting weights in Gold Gym.

[Jon Favreau]

Anyway, that's what I got.

[Jon Lovett]

All right.

[Jon Favreau]

He's still on the campaign, by the way. He's helping.

[Tommy Vietor]

No, tries and effect.

[Jon Favreau]

He's currently helping organize the campaign's Black History Month event.

[Jon Lovett]

Great. Cool.

[Tommy Vietor]

Yeah. I wonder what George Papadopoulos is up to these days. Wow.

[Jon Lovett]

George Papadopoulos, I think. I don't know. I feel like that's just. I think it's a two, honestly.

[Elijah]

Yeah, he's a good two. I saw a sign said Basta today and it made me think of that guy.

[Tommy Vietor]

Boston.

[Jon Lovett]

Remember, remember, remember our guest, oh, Michael Avenatti. Thank you, Michael Avenatti. It's his primary to lose. All right. I think you're too cool.

[Tommy Vietor]

Yeah. Agree. If you knew about it before RFK pushed back, then you would have been like a 4 or 5.

[Jon Lovett]

RFK is terminal though. That's terminally online.

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Elijah]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jon Favreau]

That is true.

[Elijah]

Big time. He's for sure he's terminally online before the Internet existed.

[Jon Lovett]

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[Jon Favreau]

Thank you.

[Jon Lovett]

I've been saying that to myself. In between my weekly dose of applause from an audience, I've been looking for more opportunities to thank myself.

[Jon Favreau]

Maybe a standing O for you.

[Jon Lovett]

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[Jon Favreau]

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[Jon Lovett]

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[Tommy Vietor]

John, when were you two online this week.

[Jon Lovett]

I was two online this week. I'm going to show you two videos. I'm going to show the first video twice. I just wanted to show you the first video. This is called Balkan Breakfast. Let's watch Balkan Breakfast.

[Gabe]

Is it Chicago style?

[Jon Lovett]

And for those listening, here's what I love about. So this is a man sitting at a table. He's got some kind of a gold chain, black T shirt. What did I say? So basically, he's sitting in front of a pile of different kinds of vegetables, a tomato, an onion, some kind of glass of beer. Juice. I don't know, it looks like juice, maybe. And cheese in a bag.

[Tommy Vietor]

Fanta.

[Jon Lovett]

And maybe could be Fanta. It does look Fanta color.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah, it does look fantastic.

[Jon Lovett]

And basically he's only using one hand, I should say. And he basically just kind of. It's like jazz. Like, he grabs a bread, bites the bread, eats half a tomato, grabs a cucumber, bites the cucumber, puts it down, takes some kind of like what looks like a big pepper, takes a big bite of pepper. And it's based. And he doesn't stop for the entire video.

[Emily Heller]

Oh, he's using their hand right now.

[Jon Favreau]

It's never.

[Jon Lovett]

Oh, the other hand came up for bread ripping. He never. He grabs cheese. Grabs cheese. He never completes a bite. Takes. Picks up a tomato. Half a third of a tomato. Gone.

[Emily Heller]

He's not even gone. He's chewing it.

[Jon Lovett]

He's just chewing, always chewing. His mouth is always. Oh, my God. A whole kind of pepper goes in. Or it looks like maybe a green. Another pepper all the way down. So this. So this was said, this was described in the video as Balkan breakfast. Created a whole world in my mind. Like, and here's what I didn't know about Balkan breakfast, right? Like, I know there's. I know the Balkan region. I actually realized I didn't know technically the bounds of the Balkan region. Like, I know. Like, I know. Like, when I think of the Balkans, my mind goes to 1990s geopolitics. So I think I think of Serbia, I think of Macedonia, I think of Albania, I think of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Like, I think of that region. I don't know what the boundaries are. I also didn't know what Balkan breakfast was. I assumed it meant the food, right? Like the kinds of food. And I thought, oh, is that like a Balkan breakfast? Which would be in some part of the Balkan region, You just have a bunch of tomato and vegetables and a piece of cheese and a piece of bread, and you kind of make Something out of that and eat it all together. Come to discover with some light searching that it's also the style and speed of consumption. Can we watch the next video?

[Tommy Vietor]

I fucking love this topic. It's like. It's like a sweater.

[Jon Lovett]

And here is another person eating in the same way, making the same facial expressions, doing the same thing, just housing this food. And there's other videos like this. You can search for Albanian breakfast or how Macedonian dads eat breakfast. Kiril, who's on our audio team, said, I have relatives that eat like that, eat like that. And that is perhaps the extent of the deep dive that I did. Right. And you can rate me however you want to rate me. But here's what I want you to understand as we go back to the first video. I have watched this, and can we please play it again?

[Tommy Vietor]

Hypnotized.

[Jon Lovett]

I have watched this so many times. It's because the green peppers. I can't explain. And you should just. It's the amount he's eating. It's the fact that it never gets faster or slower, that no one bite is completed, that basically his mouth is a place where a salad is being chopped at all times. Yes, sometimes there's more tomato, sometimes more cucumber, sometimes more bean, sometimes more cheese. But he's going and going and going. And like, the closest thing I can compare it to, and the feeling you get is if you've ever listened to Philip Glass's music and the way it rises and falls but never completes that. Like, it. Like you're constantly in this kind of rhythm and music where there's crescendos and there's highs and lows, but it stays in this one band. And the thing is, because it's TikTok, the video just starts again. You. If you're not paying close attention, you won't notice that you've gone back to the beginning. And so, in a sense, this man is always eating this breakfast. He's eating this breakfast in perpetuity. And I love it.

[Tommy Vietor]

It makes. That makes me feel safe, that makes me feel comfortable to know that he's probably right now just having girl. Like advanced girl dinner.

[Emily Heller]

It is advanced girl dinner.

[Gabe]

If you're listening on the audio, the caption on there is like a Snapchat. Like, just like the band across it just says, bro invited me to breakfast. And I can't get over the image of a man being like, come join me for breakfast. And then just.

[Emily Heller]

And then sing that.

[Gabe]

Eating in silence with just one hand.

[Jon Lovett]

So it's. So he consumes so much food so quickly. Like, it's in it's. But, like, comfortably, like, just like he does it all the time.

[Emily Heller]

It really is like a Tom and Jerry cartoon when they eat a fish and then out comes the fish skeleton.

[Jon Lovett]

I love that.

[Emily Heller]

That is exactly.

[Jon Lovett]

I love that.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah. Listeners at home, if you watch that video three times, Beetlejuice just appears. We don't know why. It just keeps happening.

[Tommy Vietor]

You know, that's the way to eat. The best meals, in my opinion, are grazing fast over a sink. Like, those are when I'm, like, really happiest on, like, a deep human animalistic level is just shoveling, like, a grazing pile of foods over a sink.

[Jon Lovett]

Yeah.

[Emily Heller]

Me with a Costco rotisserie chicken over a sink. Game fucking over.

[Jon Lovett]

Are you guys getting any of the content around? People saying you can't eat the Costco chickens because of the oil and the plastic?

[Tommy Vietor]

Grow up the microplastics.

[Emily Heller]

There's microplastics and everything. We have a credit card in our blood flow at all times to make.

[Tommy Vietor]

A machine for your baby.

[Emily Heller]

Us trying to. Us trying to circumvent microplastics. It's already done.

[Gabe]

We have Costco chickens, like, especially good. I've never been a Costco.

[Jon Lovett]

Oh, they're. They're. They're. They're famously good.

[Emily Heller]

I could argue that a Sam's Club is better, but a Costco chicken is golden, baby. Do you have a membership?

[Tommy Vietor]

There's still a lot of microplastics.

[Gabe]

I've never been to Costco.

[Emily Heller]

Costco. Costco police sponsor me.

[Tommy Vietor]

I mean, this is. It's like, this is a problem with a terminal online scale. There are no problems with the terminal online scale, but this is the kind of terminal I want to be.

[Emily Heller]

The topic is terminal. The research is not. But I don't think it needs to be in order to be a five. Does that make sense? Like, I think how niche it is warrants five. This supplementary video also warrants five. The fact that he found out it's the style of eating.

[Jon Lovett]

It's both. I think it's both. It's both.

[Emily Heller]

It's very. Also very opposite to, like, a, you know, cafe style of eating where we're all just taking our time. We can take as much time as possible. They're like, we want this in our stomach as soon as possible.

[Jon Lovett]

Yeah. There's also just something. One thing I also. It's part. One thing that also appealed to me about it, too, is it's just like, I feel like the further men get away from Their training. The training they receive from their mothers. Most likely the more disgusting they become and the more feral.

[Emily Heller]

People call that childhood.

[Jon Lovett]

They're training.

[Emily Heller]

They're training.

[Jon Lovett]

Yeah, they're training.

[Emily Heller]

Everyone wants to see someone house that much food. That's me at 3am Eating taco bell.

[Jon Lovett]

Well, I just think it's like maybe there's a part of you that fights that instinct, right, Elijah? There's a part of you that's still fighting that instinct to eat incredibly fast without chewing over a sink. But in time, the strictures of society will no longer bind you. You know, you'll just become. You'll become yet another, like, embarrassing man. And you're just on that path. We all are. We are.

[Emily Heller]

He's our content. Babadook. Yeah, the lonely podcaster frees his mind at night over a second.

[Tommy Vietor]

You just want to be in a position where you're eating food really fast and you breathe through your nose while you continue to eat. Just taking bites and just go, yeah.

[Emily Heller]

That'S the best feeling.

[Tommy Vietor]

That's why it's good. Look, I think this is like where this gets to a five is if you're listening to the show with friends and you go out to, you know, you have little charcuterie board Sunday brunch, who knows what you're doing, and you just blurt out, balkan dad breakfast. Like, what are you talking about?

[Jon Lovett]

No, I'm gonna start saying. I'm gonna start saying. I'm gonna Balkan breakfast the fuck out of this.

[Elijah]

This meal that's good.

[Tommy Vietor]

I'm just giving it a five. I love it.

[Emily Heller]

I love it.

[Jon Lovett]

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[Tommy Vietor]

Tommy.

[Jon Lovett]

What?

[Tommy Vietor]

Were you two online this week?

[Elijah]

Yay. I want to tell you guys a little story about Tucker Carlson and a demon.

[Jon Lovett]

Let's watch.

[Emily Heller]

Sick. Right wing demon.

[Elijah]

A sexy demon.

[Tucker Carlson]

And I got attacked while I was asleep with my wife and four dogs in the bed and mauled. Four dogs physically mauled in a spiritual.

[Jon Lovett]

Attack by a demon.

[Tucker Carlson]

Yeah, by a demon or by something unseen. That left.

[Jon Lovett]

Is that right?

[Tucker Carlson]

Claw marks on my sides on my.

[Elijah]

So it left physical marks.

[Tucker Carlson]

Oh, they're still there. Yeah.

[Gabe]

Yeah, show them.

[Tucker Carlson]

Year and a half ago, was your wife terrified?

[Emily Heller]

I know you were.

[Tucker Carlson]

I wasn't. I was totally confused. I woke up and I couldn't breathe and I thought I was going to suffocate. And I walked around outside and then I walked in and my wife and dogs had not woken up and they're very light sleepers. And then I had these terrible pains on my rib cage and on my shoulder. And I was just in my boxer shorts and I went and flipped on the light in the back.

[Emily Heller]

We don't need that.

[Tucker Carlson]

Four claw marks on either side, underneath my arms and on my left shoulder.

[Elijah]

Fully erect.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah, right. Wait, they were bleeding.

[Tucker Carlson]

They were bleeding. Yeah, they were actual claw marks.

[Elijah]

Okay, so that's Tucker Carlson. He is out in the woods talking to a guy. There's B roll of him shooting guns. There's dogs barking in the background. The guy he is talking to here is the person who made his January 6th documentary, Patriot Purge. I don't know if you guys remember that. It was the One that said Jan6 was a set up by Antifa. The FBI. The deep states. Classic Other libs. So I just want to talk through with you all some possible explanations for what happened with Tucker.

[Gabe]

Because it definitely happened.

[Elijah]

Because it definitely happened.

[Gabe]

Okay.

[Elijah]

I guess if I woke up out of a deep sleep in my bed with my four dogs and I had claw marks on me, I might assume I got scratched by my dog.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah, 100%. I thought for a second that I was like, oh, wait, he dreamt that there were dogs and no, he had four dogs in the bed.

[Elijah]

Four dogs.

[Gabe]

It's like dogs in a bed.

[Elijah]

He's like, oh, the dogs were sleepy and they're light sleeping dog. Like maybe they went back to sleep.

[Emily Heller]

That's what the liberal. Our secret liberal weapon should be just like release the dogs at night. Just get them. Also sub topic documentaries. Right wing or left wing now these days? See now that is kind of right wing. I think they're right wing. I think they went right wing. See now that should be added. I am now gonna think of a list and I will come back with it of like actual activities. Next week's TO yes, that's me, baby.

[Elijah]

Your fucking heart out, buddy.

[Emily Heller]

What's the context? Why was he talking to this guy? Like he was. He was like, here's my ghost story.

[Elijah]

You know, you've really right wing plumbed further down. It's a right wing ghost. I don't know why he was talking to this guy. I saw it on Twitter, if we're being honest. I did wonder though if he was experiencing sleep paralysis, which sometimes includes hallucinations commonly referred to as paralysis demons.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah, there's usually a person at the bottom of the bed. A lot of people allegorically will call it the man in the Hat.

[Elijah]

Oh. Oh, no. So I looked up a bunch of. There's a bunch of cultural references to night demons all over the world. So North America, it was called the Night Hag or the Old Hag, which is what Elijah's wife calls him as a pet name in Japan because.

[Emily Heller]

And guess what? Elijah hates women. For the people in the back. Keep going.

[Tommy Vietor]

How do you guys know that? It's the Hag house. That's where we live.

[Emily Heller]

That's the Hag house.

[Gabe]

Your son is also a hag.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah, Everyone's a hag. Everyone's a hag.

[Elijah]

That's a great sick.

[Emily Heller]

It's for everyone.

[Elijah]

In Japan, they're called Kanashi bari, which translates to bound or fastened in metal. I guess in Japanese folklore, your paralysis demon is like an angry ghost. You have Unresolved beef. So they hold you down and they mess with you. In the Middle east, they're called jinn. They are supernatural beings made of smokeless fire that can control you or possess you. In Brazil, pisadera, it's an old woman with long fingernails who jumps on victims. Scandinavian, they call him Mara. That's where nightmare comes from. Tanzania, it's papawa, which is a bat winged creature.

[Emily Heller]

Anyway, bat winged.

[Elijah]

I'll spare you more. There's dozens more of these things.

[Emily Heller]

Okay, that's great.

[Elijah]

I know. I thought it was pretty interesting. Maybe he was having sleep paralysis. And apparently that comes when you are sleep deprived, stressed, or having some sort of mental health issue.

[Emily Heller]

Have you ever had sleep paralysis?

[Elijah]

I don't think so. Have you guys?

[Emily Heller]

Yes.

[Gabe]

Yes. I get hallucinations from narcolepsy.

[Emily Heller]

Ooh. Okay.

[Gabe]

So I.

[Emily Heller]

It was when I was in New York, I was working four jobs. I would get sleep paralysis all the time, and I would be sleeping underneath a weighted blanket. And basically the feeling is that you're awake, but you can't move your body. And you genuinely. You have to coach yourself and be like, move your arm, move your arm, move your arm. But at the same time, you're also having a panic attack because you're like, am I dying? Is this what it's like? And then I just thrash myself awake. I've never had the visitation. Like, a lot of people always say, like, oh, I would see the old hag, Elijah's.

[Gabe]

I have a counter hypothesis for Tommy about this. It didn't happen.

[Elijah]

Yeah, that's on my list.

[Emily Heller]

That's good.

[Gabe]

If you can't say that there are scratch marks still there and not show the scratch mark.

[Elijah]

Right.

[Gabe]

I'm also offended. He just left out every other time I've been sitting on his ceiling, staring down, ready to scratch his face. Just ignoring the work that women put in. No, but this.

[Emily Heller]

Exactly.

[Gabe]

There's like, a 1% chance this didn't happen, and I think we need to entertain that possibility.

[Elijah]

Absolutely. I think there's also a 1% chance that he's fucking a sleep demon.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah.

[Elijah]

And it's an ongoing thing.

[Tommy Vietor]

Yeah.

[Elijah]

This is how you rationalize it.

[Emily Heller]

Well, someone has to. And so demon it is.

[Gabe]

It's the only one that will. Fuck talk.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tommy Vietor]

It's so annoying that the guy who was interviewing him wasn't like, can I see the marks?

[Elijah]

Right.

[Tommy Vietor]

Like, come on. The other thing is. That's very funny about this video is later, the guy's like, well, could it have been like your Wife or your dogs. And Tucker Carlson's like, no, my arms were at my side, so it couldn't have been them. But the implication.

[Emily Heller]

That makes no sense.

[Tommy Vietor]

Like, the demon can get through your arms. Like, you stupid interviewer.

[Emily Heller]

And so can your wife.

[Tommy Vietor]

Like the dogs. His dogs can't get through your arms. The demon can, though. So that's just.

[Gabe]

His wife doesn't even have arms.

[Elijah]

I also want to entertain the theory.

[Emily Heller]

That famously so I also want to.

[Elijah]

Maybe just entertain the theory that Tucker has been having a many year long psychotic break.

[Emily Heller]

Yes.

[Elijah]

And this is a piece of that puzzle.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah, for sure.

[Elijah]

Because there was another. There was a long Wall Street Journal story about him a few months back. They talked about an incident he recounted to this reporter where he was having a dinner. He was hosting former top US national security people, and someone told him some thing about the CIA killing American citizens. And he said he was so shocked that he then collapsed on his front porch. Two of his vertebrae had caved in, and he had to go to the hospital for emergency surgery. So it sounds like guy's having some issues, manifesting issues.

[Gabe]

All of his fishing trips were just that. He just kept collapsing after hearing secrets.

[Elijah]

The weight of the secrets is too much.

[Tommy Vietor]

That's great. This one's a little tough to judge for me for how online Tommy is. It's a deep dive into something that was going around, but I did see it. Dunphy, Kat, did you guys see this?

[Gabe]

Yes, but I'm not a good judge for this.

[Emily Heller]

I'm not on Twitter, but I did see it on Slack. And that I was like, this is a true triumph.

[Tommy Vietor]

So it's one of those weird moments, like, where we've all seen it, but, like, this is very online. Like, if you just were to go up to someone and be like, hey, Tucker Carlson, demons.

[Emily Heller]

Scratches.

[Tommy Vietor]

Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Like, it's a four, right?

[Emily Heller]

I think for. Yeah, four. For Tucker Carlson's, like, Christmas episode. Instead of interviewing Kevin Spacey from House of Cards, I think it should be his sleep paralysis. Steven and Kevin Spacey from House of Cards.

[Tommy Vietor]

I'm coming for a five today, okay? I want it.

[Emily Heller]

I want everyone to know that every day that Elijah and I have walked into the United center, he turns around and looks at me and goes, you know what it smells like? And then I go, what? And he goes, content, baby.

[Tommy Vietor]

It's electric. It is thick in the air.

[Emily Heller]

What gives you hope?

[Tommy Vietor]

Content. All right, so I'll bring the tweet. Kat, will you read this tweet for me because I saw it the other day.

[Gabe]

I'm worried there's some lingering tension between the Rizzler and Big. Just Big justice was taking petty shots at him left and right on the Los Pollo stream. I hope this jealousy doesn't boil over. I would side with the Rizzler if it did. 2.8 million views.

[Jon Lovett]

I know who the Rizzler is.

[Tommy Vietor]

You know who the Rizzler is?

[Jon Favreau]

Yeah.

[Tommy Vietor]

Okay. Do you know who any of those people are?

[Emily Heller]

I. I think I know Rizzler, but I'm not sure.

[Tommy Vietor]

Kat, do you know who these people are?

[Emily Heller]

He might be the new very vaguely.

[Gabe]

Once again, I have ang caught in the content trenches. My own content trenches.

[Tommy Vietor]

Okay.

[Jon Lovett]

I mean, I may be confusing the Rizzler and the Riz King.

[Tommy Vietor]

Yeah, you may be confusing the Rizzler with Baby Gronk who rizzed up Livy Dunn and is asked, is he the Rizzler?

[Jon Lovett]

Right, Right.

[Tommy Vietor]

A lot of people have made that mistake. No, you're not up on on the new Rizzler.

[Jon Lovett]

Who's the new Rizzler?

[Tommy Vietor]

Let me explain the characters in this drama. Okay, so I'm going to start wide because to get to the Rizzler, you first need to under understand who Big justice is. Big justice and his dad AJ Are a father son content duo. They're also known as the Costco Guys because of their viral We're Costco Guys video. I'm going to skip this for the sake of time of the genre of We're Blank People videos, but Carolyn Russell.

[Emily Heller]

And I have one of We're Bye Girls driving by. They're awful driving views on each platform. Me and Caroline Rustin had a We're bi girls, and it hit a million views on each platform. Humble brag. Keep going. Thanks, Elijah.

[Tommy Vietor]

So Big justice and AJ Are always expanding the circle of people and their content, such as Big Justice's sister Ashley, cousin Angelo, Sally Slices, and many other people and creators. Definitely creators, including the Rizzler. Any questions before I get onto who the Rizzler is?

[Emily Heller]

No, keep going.

[Tommy Vietor]

Okay, so I'll just clarify. There's the term Riz. And then you say to your friend, like, oh, if you have a lot of Riz, you may be the Rizzler. Now, the Rizzler here has become known as a child tick tock star in his own right. His whole shtick is he eats a lot of food. He's like a bigger kid, and his name is the Rizzler because he has a good Rizz face, which is like the Chad face. Like the. I'm making the face right now with, like.

[Jon Lovett]

Oh, my God. Yeah, it's the DreamWorks face. Like a big cartoon snail.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah, yeah. Yep.

[Tommy Vietor]

Yeah. He makes a good rizz face.

[Jon Lovett]

Spot on. People love the rizz face.

[Tommy Vietor]

Lastly, there's the Los Pollos stream, which is just the least important player here. Los Pollos is just an influencer that was doing a stream with aj, Big justice, and the Rizzler, because they're doing a lot of collabs right now.

[Gabe]

And to be clear, Big justice is the adult.

[Tommy Vietor]

No, Big justice is the Sun. AJ is the adult.

[Jon Lovett]

How old is the sun?

[Tommy Vietor]

They're probably. Probably like seven to eight years old each. And they're very Italian American.

[Jon Lovett]

No, Too young.

[Emily Heller]

My people.

[Tommy Vietor]

Yeah. The thing to know about AJ and Big Justice's content is that it's really bad. It's really, really bad. Like, it's people. I've seen people refer to it as, like, non tent, which is a great term, in my opinion.

[Emily Heller]

It's numbers, though.

[Tommy Vietor]

Yes. It's just like them. Like, they have this phrase, like, we bring the boom. And, like, half of their content is them just singing, we bring the boom. And it just cuts to someone else in their circle. So it's like, Sally Slices, we bring the boom. Cousin Angelo, we bring the boom. Ashley, sister of Big justice, we bring the boom.

[Emily Heller]

It's very reductive.

[Tommy Vietor]

The point is, there's now a meme.

[Jon Lovett]

Oh, my God.

[Tommy Vietor]

To really overreact and read into every little micro r social interaction that happens in the Big Justice AJ universe. And that's what the original tweet was.

[Jon Lovett]

Okay. Yeah. So you're five.

[Emily Heller]

Five.

[Tommy Vietor]

Right. Okay.

[Emily Heller]

Unwell.

[Jon Lovett]

That is. I honestly. I don't know what a six would be.

[Gabe]

Yeah, it would be that.

[Jon Lovett]

It would be that. I think that is the most depressing world that I've been introduced to on this show. Over the course of the last year we've been doing it.

[Emily Heller]

Damn.

[Tommy Vietor]

Every detail is a little darker. Like, aj, the dad, was a former professional wrestler who failed as a professional wrestler.

[Jon Lovett]

I really dislike kids being part of the world of.

[Emily Heller]

I agree.

[Jon Lovett]

Of YouTube and streaming. I hate it. Really uncomfortable.

[Emily Heller]

I usually never see any of that money.

[Jon Lovett]

It's just. It cannot good for anybody. These kids cannot consent to being part of this. They can't understand the consequences for their future for being part of this. It's not right.

[Elijah]

It's.

[Jon Lovett]

None of it's right. Yuck, you're dead.

[Tommy Vietor]

Anyone disagree? I'm terminal.

[Emily Heller]

I know. I have any questions?

[Tommy Vietor]

About the risk?

[Jon Lovett]

No. Do you.

[Gabe]

Wait, what were the petty shots that were being taken?

[Tommy Vietor]

Great question, Cat. Thank you. So, for instance, you know, Rizzler's always eating. He's eating some ice cream on the Los Pollos stream, and he takes a bite and he says, bro, this is the best ice cream I've ever had. To which Big justice says, you literally said that last night and the night before. And the Rizzler shoots him a look like. And you can just tell, like, the Rizzler is getting ready to fucking snap.

[Jon Lovett]

How old is the Rizzler?

[Tommy Vietor]

Like seven. Dude, he's so young. Their voice is just so hard.

[Jon Lovett]

I don't ever want to see. It's all seven years old.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah. First of all, Elijah, nice graphics package.

[Jon Lovett]

Watch a fucking TV show. What are you doing?

[Emily Heller]

Dude, he's a dad. He doesn't have time to watch his TV show.

[Jon Lovett]

Where. How are you watching this? Why are you consuming this?

[Tommy Vietor]

Okay, listen, Liberal elite, succession watcher, American pastor. This is Yellowstone. This is what real America is.

[Jon Lovett]

Yellowstone.

[Emily Heller]

Yeah.

[Jon Lovett]

Is this what Yellowstone. Yellowstone is Yellowstone. Are you watching Yellowstone?

[Tommy Vietor]

This is also Yellowstone. There's elite media and not elite media, and you consume elite media. Sorry, are you guys trying to talk.

[Elijah]

While we're having with your point?

[Emily Heller]

Have a sub podcast and a sub podcast. No, keep going.

[Gabe]

No podcast, where you just shit on men's media.

[Emily Heller]

Yellow. That's such a boy show.

[Tommy Vietor]

This is the point I was making about y'all underestimating Trump and, like, going on. Theo Vaughn right now is in. And you don't understand that. That's. This is real America. The average voter has an opinion about the Rizzler and Big Justice.

[Jon Lovett]

How many views does. Oh, wow. That was. That is a lot of that. That kid does have a great DreamWorks face, but no, you should be shot out of a cannon for even telling us about this. None of us should know it. It's the fucking ring.

[Gabe]

I knew something about it. I knew nothing.

[Emily Heller]

I knew there's nothing.

[Jon Lovett]

I was confusing Rizzler and Riz King.

[Emily Heller]

Me too.

[Tommy Vietor]

That's. Well, you know, there's a difference, though, so.

[Emily Heller]

I know the Costco dads thing, though.

[Jon Lovett]

You know what? I think the reason you have to be a six, I think this is what a definition of a six is. Your case is so bad, it makes everyone else around you more or worse. In terminal, I actually think that, like you telling us that it's contagious. You're you. I think this needs to me in new categories, which is basically dead Patient Zero. You kill you. You brought us into this world and now our brains are a little bit fucked up because we know that there's a seven year old eating ice cream being berated by big justice.

[Emily Heller]

So good job Elijah. You made the world a worse again.

[Elijah]

Look at him. Look at him.

[Tommy Vietor]

Sorry for doing the show. Sorry. Sorry for being terminally online bumping up to a six. All right, thank you. I'll accept six.

[Jon Favreau]

That's all for today. If you enjoyed this episode and want more, consider joining our friends of the pod community. As a reminder, we're offering 25% off new annual subscriptions for a limited time only. It's the best way to support the work we do at Crooked Media. Sign up [e-mail] friends or through the Pod Save America feed on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for listening and we'll see you when we get back.

[Jon Lovett]

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