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M&A Science
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M&A Science, hosted by Kison Patel (Founder & CEO of DealRoom), is your go-to podcast for mastering the art of mergers and acquisitions. Each week, Kison and his expert guests from leading brands like Xerox, FastLap, and Cisco dig deep into real-world M&A strategies, offering actionable insights to optimize your M&A practice.
Whether you're an experienced practitioner or new to the field, M&A Science provides practical advice on key topics like sourcing, due diligence, integration, divestitures, and more. With over 300 episodes, this podcast is the premier thought leadership resource designed to streamline your deal-making process.
Start listening today and visit mascience.com/podcast to access over 300 episodes. Brought to you by DealRoom, the leading M&A optimization platform used by the best M&A teams around the world
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Cross-Border M&A Strategy: Navigating Complex International Deals with Arash Attar-Rezvani
Aug 4, 2025Tap to summarizeArash Attar-Rezvani - M&A Partner, Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP Arash Attar-Rezvani, M&A Partner at Skadden based in Paris, brings over two decades of cross-border M&A strategy experience to this in-depth conversation. From billion-dollar telecom deals across Latin America to luxury brand acquisitions spanning multiple jurisdictions, Arash reveals the hidden complexities that make international M&A uniquely challenging. M&A professionals will learn how to structure deals across incompatible legal systems, navigate emerging regulatory landscapes, and build the trust essential for successful cross-border transactions. Things you will learn: How to identify and manage multiple antitrust and national security clearances across jurisdictions with varying sophistication levels Why smaller transactions often require more innovation than billion-dollar deals, and how to build structures when no legal playbook exists The psychology behind cross-border deal-making and why trust trumps even the most ironclad contracts _________________ How One Small M&A Team is Closing 8 Deals This Year See how US Heart & Vascular is running faster, cleaner deals using Buyer-Led M&A™ and DealRoom. Join Kison in the live session on August 14 at 11am EST. 👉Register now at dealroom.net/insidethedeal _________________ Episode Chapters [00:02:30] International Legal Foundation – Arash's multicultural background and path to cross-border M&A expertise [00:06:00] Deal Size vs. Complexity – Why Smaller Founder-Led Acquisitions Present Unique Structural Challenges [00:14:30] Strategic M&A Motivations – The full spectrum of acquisition rationales from geography to technology [00:18:30] Building Long-Term Client Relationships – The trusted advisor model and its impact on deal success [00:21:00] Cross-Border Regulatory Landscape – GDPR, Cloud Act, and the proliferation of national security reviews [00:28:00] Managing Multiple Jurisdictions – How to prevent small markets from derailing global transactions [00:33:00] French M&A Environment – Labor consultation requirements and overcoming cultural prejudices [00:47:00] High-Stakes Deal Philosophy – Why people, not money, define truly consequential transactions [00:51:30] Creative Deal Innovation – The first-of-its-kind Luxottica take-private structure across Luxembourg and Hong Kong [00:57:30] AI's Impact on Legal Services – How technology will reshape M&A advisory and fee structures Questions, comments, concerns?Follow Kison Patel for behind-the-scenes insights on modern M&A.
Transcribe →Corporate Development Strategy in High-Volume M&A
Feb 10, 202501:09:37Tap to summarizeJeff Giles, Executive Vice President at Core & Main M&A at scale requires more than just financial analysis—it’s about building relationships, understanding cultural fit, and executing a seamless integration strategy. With over 60 deals under his belt, Jeff Giles, Executive Vice President at Core & Main, has a proven track record of leading high-volume, buyer-led M&A. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Jeff shares his expertise in strategic acquisitions, relationship-driven deal sourcing, and post-merger integration. He discusses the critical role of culture in M&A, how to prioritize acquisition targets, and why technology is essential for managing complex transactions. Things you will learn: Buyer-led M&A – The power of proactive deal sourcing Building a strategic market map – Core vs. adjacent markets How to assess culture in M&A – What makes a deal truly successful Negotiation tactics in valuation gaps – Closing deals with the right structure Integration planning – Ensuring a smooth transition post-close _________________________________ This episode in sponsored by DealRoom AI. Forget spending hours reviewing diligence contracts. Automate the extraction and analysis of key information and create quick summary reports. Harness the power of Buyer-Led M&A with DealRoom's proven framework. Visit DealRoom.net to learn more. _________________________________ Episode Timestamps: [00:00:00] Introduction & Guest Background [00:03:00] Building Market Maps & Identifying Opportunities [00:11:00] Developing Relationships in Buyer-Led M&A [00:19:00] Expanding into Adjacent Markets [00:24:00] Prioritization of Acquisition Targets [00:31:00] Evaluating Cultural Fit & Integration Risks [00:38:00] Building Trust & Transparency with Business Owners [00:42:45] The Due Diligence Process [00:50:00] Managing Bid-Ask Spread & Valuation Challenges [00:55:00] Integration Planning for M&A Success [01:01:00] The Role of Technology in M&A [01:06:00] Surprising Moments in M&A
Transcribe →Navigating Large-Scale M&A Deals and Legal Complexities
Feb 3, 202500:50:17Tap to summarizeJohn Orbe, Senior Associate General Counsel – M&A at Emerson Large-scale deals come with layers of complexity—from regulatory challenges and cross-border negotiations to structuring transactions that align with long-term business strategy. Having the right legal approach can make or break a deal. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, John Orbe joins us to break down what it takes to execute high-stakes transactions. He shares insights on the differences between large and small deals, how legal teams can be a strategic partner in M&A, and why cross-border transactions require more than just legal know-how. Things you will learn: Big vs. small deals – Unique challenges and hidden complexities When to involve legal in M&A – Structuring LOIs the right way Cross-border deal challenges – Cultural, regulatory, and legal considerations How technology is reshaping M&A – AI, automation, and data room efficiencies Avoiding post-closing disputes – Drafting airtight agreements Trailer Timestamps: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:17 Entering the M&A World 00:05:26 M&A as a Team Sport 00:07:18 Transition from Law Firm to In-House Counsel 00:10:35 Differences Between Large and Small M&A Deals 00:15:42 M&A Deal Strategy and Business Risk 00:25:10 Legal Due Diligence Process 00:30:22 Cross-Border M&A Complexities 00:35:40 Technology and AI in M&A 00:40:15 Managing External Legal Counsel 00:45:00 Negotiation Strategies in M&A 00:50:30 People and Cultural Considerations in Deals 00:55:10 M&A Deal Execution and Closing Challenges 01:00:20 The Future of M&A and Legal Innovation 01:05:45 Craziest M&A Stories and Lessons Learned
Transcribe →Lessons from the Trenches: Mastering Tech M&A, Integration, and Carve-Out Strategies Part 2
Jan 27, 202501:02:12Tap to summarizeDr. Amit Monga, Founder and CEO of SARAPOINT Every deal tells a story of risk, strategy, and the relentless pursuit of value. With M&A evolving into a core function across industries, simply following old playbooks is no longer enough. You need insight, discipline, and a strategy tailored to today’s fast-moving, multi-dimensional landscape. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Amit Monga, Founder and CEO of SARAPOINT, joins us to unpack the intricacies of software valuation, integration challenges, and structuring carve-outs that unlock hidden value. Things you will learn: Trends in software valuation: EBITDA vs. revenue multiples How growth impacts valuation and attracts buyers Navigating deals with difficult CEOs Challenges in carve-outs from the buy-side Key differences between buy-side and sell-side M&A This episode is sponsored by DealRoom AI. Forget spending hours reviewing diligence contracts. Automate the extraction and analysis of key information and create quick summary reports. Harness the power of Buyer-Led M&A™ with DealRoom's proven framework. Visit DealRoom.net to learn more. Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:31 Trends in software valuation: EBITDA vs. revenue multiples 05:22 Venture capital vs. private equity mindsets 07:48 Who is lending on software deals 09:13 Convincing someone to sell their company 12:41 How growth impacts valuation and attracts buyers 15:46 How to approach your first acquisition 18:54 How to pitch a deal to Founders 22:15 Navigating deals with difficult CEOs 27:46 Challenges in carve-outs from the buy-side 31:36 Networking to find carve-out deals 35:28 Structuring optimal deals for carve-outs and founder-owned businesses 41:46 When to take on investments and build a platform 45:25 Key differences between buy-side and sell-side M&A 50:21 Surprises and lessons learned in M&A 55:09 How M&A strategies have evolved 58:25 Craziest thing in M&A
Transcribe →Lessons from the Trenches: Mastering Tech M&A, Integration, and Carve-Out Strategies Part 1
Jan 20, 202500:48:37Tap to summarizeAmit Monga, Founder and CEO of SARAPOINT M&A is a minefield of uncertainties, let alone the tech space. Missteps in integration, cultural clashes, and unforeseen risks can quickly derail even the most promising deals. That’s why understanding what could go wrong is critical. Dr. Amit Monga, Founder and CEO of SARAPOINT, shares lessons from the trenches to help you anticipate challenges and mitigate risks. Learn how to navigate integration, manage carve-outs, and turn M&A uncertainty into opportunity with actionable insights from a seasoned expert. Things you will learn: Key lessons from the trenches for corporate M&A success Balancing proactive and opportunistic M&A strategies Handling opportunistic deals outside core strategy Evaluating deals that don’t fit the M&A thesis Maintaining control during M&A execution ******************* This episode is sponsored by DealRoom AI. Forget spending hours reviewing diligence contracts. Automate the extraction and analysis of key information and create quick summary reports. Harness the power of Buyer-Led M&A™ with DealRoom's proven framework. Visit DealRoom.net to learn more. ******************* Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 03:17 The power of an engineering background 03:48 Key lessons from the trenches for corporate M&A success 06:51 Balancing proactive and opportunistic M&A strategies 08:39 Building and managing an M&A pipeline 10:32 Handling opportunistic deals outside corporate strategy 12:35 Balancing synergies and opportunistic deals 14:54 Deciding how much to integrate a company 17:59 Evaluating deals that don’t fit the M&A thesis 23:06 Planning integration based on partnerships and synergies 25:02 Becoming a buyer-led M&A organization 27:05 Working with the sell-side during M&A processes 30:46 Maintaining control during M&A execution 32:40 Balancing the M&A process management with bankers 34:48 Handling proprietary deals without an advisor 38:34 Scenario: Balancing opportunism with communication in competitive processes
Transcribe →Navigating the Current M&A Cycle, Regulatory Impacts, and 2025 Market Dynamics for Corporate Development Leaders
Jan 13, 202500:33:10Tap to summarizeJoe Mantone, U.S. Financial Institutions News Desk Manager at S&P Global Market Intelligence (NYSE: SPGI) The M&A market isn’t what it used to be. Deal volumes are rising, but they remain a shadow of the record highs of 2021. Add to this the challenges of regulatory hurdles, high interest rates, and uneven global recovery. Corporate development leaders are left asking: where do we go from here? In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Joe Mantone of S&P Global Market Intelligence unpacks the latest trends, challenges, and opportunities in the M&A cycle. You’ll learn the latest insights to stay ahead in a volatile market and prepare for the opportunities 2025 promises to bring. Things you will learn: The state of M&A, recovering from the 2022 downturn How regulatory challenges are reshaping deal strategies What corporate leaders need to know about private equity and credit trends The rise of AI and sector-specific opportunities for 2025 Actionable advice for corporate development teams in a volatile market ******************* This episode is sponsored by S&P Global Market Intelligence. Find insight at every data point with the enhanced S&P Capital IQ Pro platform. It’s the leading data solution for strategics and investors alike. Visit spglobal.com/proinsights. DealRoom AI also sponsors this episode. DealRoom AI accelerates the due diligence process by automating the extraction and analysis of key information from M&A documents, reducing contract analysis time by up to 80%. Trusted by leading M&A practitioners, this tool streamlines reviews, minimizes risk, and saves legal costs significantly. For more details, visit the DealRoom AI page today. ******************* Episode Timestamps 00:00 Intro 06:03 Current state of the M&A market 07:45 Distinguishing the current M&A downturn 08:51 Factors driving global M&A 10:14 M&A blindspots to lookout for 12:38 How Fed rate cuts will affect M&A 13:38 Financing M&A deals in a changing market 15:22 Investor sentiment and the future of IPOs 16:17 Impact of market volatility on corporate M&A 17:12 Cross-border M&A: Lessons from Asia Pacific and Europe M&A Activity 20:19 How to prepare for the heightened regulatory scrutiny 21:43 Strategies for mitigating regulatory risks 22:24 M&A insights from earnings calls 23:53 Increased investment banking recruiting 24:48 Practical takeaways for corporate M&A teams 25:40 The future of M&A: Trends to watch in 2025 28:13 Emerging sectors for 2025 29:55 Craziest thing in M&A
Transcribe →Optimizing Your Corporate Development Team
Jan 6, 202501:16:34Tap to summarizeAndrew Kelley III - VP of Corporate Development and Ventures at Five9 ( NYSE: FIVN) Achieving success in M&A requires more than identifying opportunities—it demands a thoughtful approach to relationship-building, thorough due diligence, and strategic alignment. Without these key elements, even well-intentioned deals risk falling short of their potential. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Andrew Kelley, VP of Corporate Development and Ventures at Five9, shares his expertise on navigating the complexities of corporate development. From building strong relationships to prioritizing due diligence and leveraging emerging technology, Andrew provides actionable insights for driving successful deals. Learn how to overcome common pitfalls, foster alignment, and build a strategic M&A framework. Things You Will Learn: Strategies for building relationships and sourcing deals effectively How to prioritize and execute efficient due diligence Identifying and overcoming bid-ask spread challenges The role of culture in deal success and integration ******************* This episode is sponsored by S&P Global Market Intelligence. Find insight at every data point with the enhanced S&P Capital IQ Pro platform. It’s the leading data solution for strategics and investors alike. Visit spglobal.com/proinsights. DealRoom AI also sponsors this episode. DealRoom AI accelerates the due diligence process by automating the extraction and analysis of key information from M&A documents, reducing contract analysis time by up to 80%. Trusted by leading M&A practitioners, this tool streamlines reviews, minimizes risk, and saves legal costs significantly. For more details, visit the DealRoom AI page today. ******************* Episode Timestamps: 4:13 Overview of Experience in Corporate Development 7:17 Foundational Skills for M&A Success 17:39 Efficiency and Prioritization in Due Diligence 22:00 The Role of Culture in Integration 23:22 Green Flags in the Deal 27:12 Red Flags in the Deal 33:18 Predicting Actual Value 37:46 Key Players in Your Letter of Intent 41:01 Relationships in Corporate Development 44:46 Supporting Your Team While Holding Them Accountable 49:01 Dealing with Bid-Ask Spreads 54:35 Building External Relationships 1:08:22 Future of Corporate Development
Transcribe →Synchronizing the Deal Team and Integration Team for Better Outcomes
Dec 30, 202401:13:13Tap to summarizeRuss Hartz, VP of Corporate Development at Ansys, and Carey Pugh, Director of Corporate Integrations at Ansys (NASDAQ: ANSS) The fastest way to sabotage an M&A deal is to let the deal team and integration team work in silos. Too often, companies nail the transaction only to fumble on execution because the people closing the deal and those delivering the value aren’t aligned. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, Russ Hartz, VP of Corporate Development at Ansys, and Carey Pugh, Director of Corporate Integrations at Ansys, unpack how keeping deal and integration teams synchronized can make or break an M&A deal's outcomes. Things you will learn: The positive business outcomes of early integration Managing integration planning milestones Kickoff meeting structure Adapting integration approaches to cultural differences Building a strong partnership between deal and integration teams ******************* This episode is sponsored by S&P Global Market Intelligence. Find insight at every data point with the enhanced S&P Capital IQ Pro platform. It’s the leading data solution for strategics and investors alike. Visit spglobal.com/proinsights. DealRoom AI also sponsors this episode. DealRoom AI accelerates the due diligence process by automating the extraction and analysis of key information from M&A documents, reducing contract analysis time by up to 80%. Trusted by leading M&A practitioners, this tool streamlines reviews, minimizes risk, and saves legal costs significantly. For more details, visit the DealRoom AI page today. ******************* Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 04:49 Integration planning starts early 07:55 The positive business outcomes of early integration 15:22 Balancing strategy with practicality in early integration planning 21:50 Proactive integration planning 23:58 Managing integration planning milestones 25:11 Kickoff meeting structure 33:07 Adapting integration approaches to cultural differences 30:29 Key factors considered during diligence 44:31 Building a strong partnership between deal and integration teams 46:50 Key traits to look for in an integration partner 49:36 Aligning the deal and integration teams 52:18 Best practices for synchronizing the deal team and integration team 58:52 The power of buyer-led M&A - When you get to the point 1:04:23 Creating a seamless people experience in buyer-led M&A 1:06:43 Craziest thing in M&A
Transcribe →Mastering M&A Integration Through Leadership Development and Cultural Alignment
Dec 23, 202400:56:12Tap to summarizeJason Lippert, CEO of LCI Industries (NYSE: LCII) M&A integration is notoriously challenging—cultural misalignment, disengaged leaders, and high turnover often derail even the best-laid plans. How do you overcome these obstacles and ensure a seamless integration that drives long-term success? In this episode, Jason Lippert, CEO of LCI Industries, shares his proven playbook for mastering M&A integration through leadership development and cultural alignment. Things you will learn: Correlating culture metrics with financial performance Investing in leadership development for a stronger frontline Proactive culture development for new team members Exploring AI to enhance customer service Identifying strong leadership during diligence ******************* This episode is sponsored by S&P Global. S&P Global Market Intelligence has private companies covered. Whether you’re looking for your next investment or M&A target, conducting peer comparisons, assessing counterparty credit risk, or monitoring your supply chain, S&P Capital IQ Pro's extensive private company data can give you the insights you need for a competitive edge. Uncover tangible insights on private companies by visiting spglobal.com/privatecompanydata This episode is also sponsored by DealRoom. Harness the power of Buyer-Led M&A™ with DealRoom's proven framework. Streamline your acquisitions, from sourcing to integration, for smarter, more strategic deal-making that drives growth and value. Visit DealRoom.net to learn more. ******************* Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 07:37 Evolving from seller-led to buyer-led M&A strategies 10:43 Capital allocation and acquisition strategy in a public company 13:08 Defining and measuring company culture through core values 15:56 Culture as a driver of value in M&A integration 19:50 Assessing and transforming culture in M&A pre-LOI 21:45 Leveraging culture as a competitive advantage post-LOI 22:52 Building a playbook for culture and leadership integration 25:25 Fostering personal and professional growth plans for employees 33:23 Measuring success through culture and leadership metrics 37:30 Using culture to build trust and drive post-acquisition success 40:31 Correlating culture metrics with financial performance 42:14 Proactive culture development for new team members 43:53 Identifying strong leadership
Transcribe →Expert Insights into Building an Empire through Strategic M&A (Part 2)
Dec 16, 202400:52:07Tap to summarizeAdam Coffey, Founding Partner of The Chairman Group Many M&A deals fail to deliver their promised value due to gaps in deal sourcing, diligence, and integration. Without a clear strategy and the right tools, even the best opportunities can turn into liabilities. In this episode of the M&A Science Podcast, hear all the expert insights from Adam Coffey, Founding Partner at The Chairman Group, on how to source the right targets, structure deals for sustainability, and integrate acquisitions seamlessly. Get your blueprint for building an empire through strategic M&A. Things you will learn: • How to find and close proprietary deals for business growth • Building relationships and effective outreach strategies • Structuring deals with financial levers for sustainable growth • Mastering integration and building M&A expertise through experience • Strategic exit points and the value of partnering for growth ******************* This episode is sponsored by S&P Global Market Intelligence. Find insight at every data point with the enhanced S&P Capital IQ Pro platform. It’s the leading data solution for strategics and investors alike. Visit spglobal.com/proinsights. DealRoom AI also sponsors this episode. DealRoom AI accelerates the due diligence process by automating the extraction and analysis of key information from M&A documents, reducing contract analysis time by up to 80%. Trusted by leading M&A practitioners, this tool streamlines reviews, minimizes risk, and saves legal costs significantly. For more details, visit the DealRoom AI page today. ******************* Episode Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 04:13 How to find and close proprietary deals for business growth 10:28 Building relationships and effective outreach strategies 23:14 Structuring deals with financial levers for sustainable growth 28:34 Mastering integration and building M&A expertise through experience 35:01 Strategic exit points and the value of partnering for growth 45:20 How to perform diligence on private equity buyers as a seller 48:23 Craziest thing in M&A
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