From Body Shaming to Reclaiming Her Voice: Lebo Mashile on Turning Pain Into Power

Lebo Mashile was publicly shamed for her pregnant body. Instead of shrinking, she turned her fury into a groundbreaking play about Saartjie Baartman — and a five-year excavation of how the exploitation of Black women's bodies shapes our world today.

In this raw, two-part conversation, the iconic South African poet and playwright breaks down:

Why Black women's bodies are still treated as public property — and how to reclaim yours
How Saartjie Baartman's story is a portal to understanding the dehumanization of Black women
Why your body is still a battleground — and how to defend your boundaries in a world that wants to bulldoze them
What happens when you stop asking for a seat at the table and start becoming the whole house
How to know when a risky creative vision is yours to pursue — even when the world says you're not ready

Plus: Why politeness is poison when someone disrespects your body, your dreams, or your destiny.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 — Why Lebo sat down to interview herself this season

04:56 — How a gossip column about her pregnant belly became a groundbreaking play

12:11 — Saartjie Baartman: the woman whose body was exploited in a freak show for centuries

18:02 — Why the public still feels entitled to Black women's bodies today

23:26 — The internal test that tells you when a creative risk is yours to take

32:29 — Why body shaming is never about your body — and how to stop backing down

CONNECT WITH LEBO:

Website: lebomashile.com

Instagram: @lebomashile

Twitter: @lebomashile

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🎭 Lebo's play Saartjie vs Venus at the Market Theatre: markettheatre.co.za/shows/watch/saartjie-vs-venus

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