The Dietary Guidelines for Americans are out RFK Jr decided to give us an inverted food triangle and tell us it's a new and improved food pyramid. Dietitian and public health badass Meghan Cichy, MPH RDN returns to the show to discuss the new dietary guidelines and the focus on "real food". She walks Jessica through all of the public health language and limitations and also asks who all of this is for.

The two compare recommendations in old guidelines to the current ones, including protein serving sizes.
The two chat about how RFK wanted to end corporate and industry influence and how there is still a tangled web of industry influence and private interest.
They get into how the guidelines discussed ultra-processed foods after promising us a definition.

The dietary guidelines speak directly to the MAHA movement; those who can pay for "real food," have the resources and time to cook dinner every night, and shop at farmers markets. MAHA does not care about the health of the public.

RFK tells us he is ending the war on protein and saturated fat. The guidelines also include a section on testosterone. He's given us a manly man's meat-focused inverted food triangle for the manosphere, dudefluencers and pod bros.

One of Meghan's concerns was how alcohol was addressed in the DGA.

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