A thousand times a year, someone sits across the table from Jeremy Stalnecker and says: "I've tried everything. If this doesn't work, I'm not going to make it." How is a gentle and lowly Jesus the answer to that?

Dane Ortlund, pastor of Naperville Presbyterian and author of the runaway evangelical bestseller Gentle and Lowly, sits down with Jeremy to break down the Jesus most Christian men have never been taught. The Jesus who, as Spurgeon noted, only once told us what was in his own heart. The Jesus whose default is mercy and whose anger always requires provocation. The Jesus with nail-scarred arms who, according to 1 Corinthians 12, feels your trauma more acutely than you do.

This is one of the most theologically rich conversations on the channel - anchored in Matthew 11:28-30, with stops in Hebrews 1, John 14, Exodus 34, and 1 Corinthians 12. If you've ever pictured Jesus as a watered-down, decaffeinated, domesticated version of God, this conversation will reset that picture.

RESOURCES MENTIONED
• Dane Ortlund, Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers (Crossway): https://www.crossway.org/books/gentle-and-lowly-tpb/
• Thomas Goodwin, The Heart of Christ in Heaven for Sinners on Earth - the 400-year-old book that wrecked Dane
• Dane Ortlund, Edwards on the Christian Life (Crossway)

CONNECT WITH DANE
• Website: https://www.daneortlund.com
• Naperville Presbyterian Church: https://www.naperpres.org
• X (formerly Twitter): @daneortlund

KEY VERSES
• Matthew 11:28-30 - "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden"
• Hebrews 1:3 - Jesus, the exact representation of God
• John 14:9 - "If you've seen me, you have seen the Father"
• Exodus 34:6 - "The Lord, the Lord God, merciful and gracious, slow to anger"
• 1 Corinthians 12 - We are the body of Christ

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