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Marketing Over Coffee
Hosted by john@themshow.com (John Wall and Christopher Penn) · EN
Marketing over coffee is a weekly discussion of what's new in marketing with John Wall and Christopher Penn
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Paul Ruscoe on Having the Difficult Discussions About Growth
3d ago00:28:05Tap to summarizeIn this Marketing Over Coffee: Talking with Paul Ruscoe, VP Marketing Intelligence at Incubeta on how and why companies grow, and the challenge of effectively putting your budget to work! Direct Link to File Passing up on space and spying and going to the big agencies to start (Omnicom, Publicis, Ogilvy) Over 20 years for the company and a Global Google Partner The challenge of defending marketing spend and making it accountable Working with large brands like Apple, challenger brands The importance of challenging discussions with clients to understand what's really happening 6:27 - 8:35 Scribe is a Workflow AI platform that captures any workflow in real time and turns it into documentation automatically. No manual writing, no manual screenshots, no starting from scratch every time someone new joins the team. Trusted by 80,000+ enterprises, including nearly half of the Fortune 500. Learn more at https://scribe.how/MOC Why has the concept of reach lost cache? Getting beyond simplistic (and flawed) measurements like ROI and ROAS CMOs and the state of their budgets How do clients take advantage of Incubeta's global reach? Identifying segments underserved, and then profitably acquiring them How Lululemon expansion was put together Report: Get The Marketer's Confidence Paradox Ask for more at Analytics for Marketers! Sign up for the text line: 1-617-812-5494 Join John, Chris and Katie on threads, or on LinkedIn: Chris, John, and Katie Sign up for the Marketing Over Coffee Newsletter to get early access! Our theme song is Mellow G by Fonkmasters
Transcribe →Return of Tin Foil Hat!
1w ago00:25:42Tap to summarizeIn this Marketing Over Coffee: Learn about the latest in AI, running models at home, Nutella, and more!! Direct Link to File Cowork continues tearing it up TI's 5 Levels of AI Paperclip at Level 5 Nvidia DGX Spark with Quen 3.6 and Claude Cowork Anthropic partners with SpaceX for compute 10:50 - 12:25 Incubeta: the "old way" of marketing – with creative, media, and data stuck in silos – just doesn't work anymore. Incubeta is a global marketing and AI-outcomes agency and a premier Global Google Partner. They help brands Outperform Marketing, delivering an average of 35% revenue growth in just the first year. Nutella on Moon Mission - and Scott Galloway's Egonauts John goes on an unhinged rant about economics and government Kai Harada gets a Tony Nomination! Five star power converter for Europe Jack Ryan returns with Krasinski movie Chris Laptop Stand and 220nm UVC lamp Ask for more at Analytics for Marketers! Sign up for the text line: 1-617-812-5494 Join John, Chris and Katie on threads, or on LinkedIn: Chris, John, and Katie Sign up for the Marketing Over Coffee Newsletter to get early access! Our theme song is Mellow G by Fonkmasters
Transcribe →Dan Levi on The State of Out Of Home (And Airports!)
2w ago00:37:54Tap to summarizeIn this Marketing Over Coffee: Clear Channel's Dan Levi talks with us about going from MTV to WWE to CMO Direct Link to File Starting out at the classic big agencies, and then road trip to LA Working at the early days of MTV, and the launch of MTV Asia SVP of Marketing at WWE Getting in to Out of Home (OOH) and now CMO with 10 years at Clear Channel 8:47 - 10:21 Incubeta: the "old way" of marketing – with creative, media, and data stuck in silos – just doesn't work anymore. Incubeta is a global marketing and AI-outcomes agency and a premier Global Google Partner. They help brands Outperform Marketing, delivering an average of 35% revenue growth in just the first year. Visit Incubeta.com to see their "Proof of Performance" and discover the future of AI-powered growth. What's the big opportunity brands are missing with big sporting event follow up? It's not about locations, it's about audience and outcomes The Radar data platform - anonymously tracking where the audiences are 22:59 - 26:01 Quo is the #1-rated business phone system on G2 with over 3,000 reviews, built for how modern teams work. That's why more than 90,000 businesses – from solo operators to growing teams – rely on Quo to stay connected, professional, and consistently reachable. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to Quo.com/MOC Switching Radar from post campaign results to real time Using OOH for better GEO results and building trust David Letterman's My Next Guest Needs No Introduction Check out Clear Channel and Dan on LinkedIn! We're always talking at Analytics for Marketers! Sign up for the text line: 1-617-812-5494 Join John, Chris and Katie on threads, or on LinkedIn: Chris, John, and Katie Sign up for the Marketing Over Coffee Newsletter to get early access! Our theme song is Mellow G by Fonkmasters
Transcribe →Now with More Post Mythos Apocalypse!
Apr 1600:23:09Tap to summarizeIn this Marketing Over Coffee: Learn about Looping LLMs, the Death of Journalism, Uncensored Heretic, and more! Direct Link to File Zero Journalism on Anthropic Claude Mythos What are looping LLMs? 7:40 - 9:34 Use Framer to get websites up and running effortlessly and leave the design tool paywall behind. Ready to design, iterate, and publish all in one tool? Start creating for free at Framer.com/design, and use code MOC for a free month of Framer Pro Data Studio Returns! Gemma 4 - taking the local model for an uncensored test drive Subscribe to the Trust Insights Prompt Playbook Weekly! Includes prompt to skill plug-in 90% want brand texts once a week or less Chris is totally against brand texts 14:42 - 16:17 Fundera by NerdWallet – visit NerdWallet.com/MOC and fill out the no obligation form. You'll get VIP treatment and talk with a real person who knows all the ins and outs of small business lending. Don't risk your business on unreliable lenders. Go to NerdWallet.com/MOC to find the funding you deserve. Traction Vids Mad Max Fury Road Cancelling YouTube Premium by creating a downloader and manager with Claude Code Managing streaming services with Subscription Pulsing GEO Webinar Recording Ask for more at Analytics for Marketers! Sign up for the text line: 1-617-812-5494 Join John, Chris and Katie on threads, or on LinkedIn: Chris, John, and Katie Sign up for the Marketing Over Coffee Newsletter to get early access! Our theme song is Mellow G by Fonkmasters
Transcribe →A Victory Lap with Greg Poirier!
Apr 1000:38:46Tap to summarizeIn this Marketing Over Coffee: Greg is back to talk about being acquired, the future of Salesforce, implementing AI, and more! Direct Link to File Past interviews with Greg in 2015, and again in 2018! So what happened at CloudKettle over the past 8 years?? Acquisition always part of the plan Doing right with a 30% ESOP Inbound inquiries get heavy at year 8 7:32 - 9:14 Incubeta: the "old way" of marketing - with creative, media, and data stuck in silos - just doesn't work anymore. Incubeta is a global marketing and AI-outcomes agency and a premier Global Google Partner. They help brands Outperform Marketing, delivering an average of 35% revenue growth in just the first year. Visit Incubeta.com to see their "Proof of Performance" and discover the future of AI-powered growth. How has the landscape changed over the past 5 years The changes in Marketing Automation Expansion of Analytics Going beyond the Bay Area Moving from Seat Based to Consumption Based pricing 19:11 - 21:17 Get Rella for social media management, free 14 day trial and get 10% off with code MOC What's driving the transition to consumption? Early adopters in AI with Gemini and Agentforce Using the Maya Personality Document to get all AI tools into alignment Virtual Bike Racing versus Zombies on My Whoosh! Using Seris Trainers Rouvy Ad Spend To learn more visit Ateko or check out Greg on LinkedIn Ask for more at Analytics for Marketers! Sign up for the text line: 1-617-812-5494 Join John, Chris and Katie on threads, or on LinkedIn: Chris, John, and Katie Sign up for the Marketing Over Coffee Newsletter to get early access! Our theme song is Mellow G by Fonkmasters
Transcribe →Lots of AI Marketing News
Apr 300:29:06Tap to summarizeIn this Marketing Over Coffee: Learn about the end of Sora, GEO, the CLI for AI and more! Direct Link to File John misses the New Fronts OpenAI shutters Sora Anthropic renting time from Google as their hardware advantage continues to shine Advantage of AI via CLI 9:13 - 11:33 Use Framer to get websites up and running effortlessly and leave the design tool paywall behind. Ready to design, iterate, and publish all in one tool? Start creating for free at Framer.com/design, and use code MOC for a free month of Framer Pro Using AI to take advantage of APIs, published or not - use the Network Tab in the Developer Tools GEO Free Webinar Link - April 10! Most GEO reporting tools are lying AI View Pro How Google Crawls Upcoming discussion with Katie on Claude Cowork for site management 19:29 - 21:03 Incubeta: the "old way" of marketing - with creative, media, and data stuck in silos - just doesn't work anymore. Incubeta is a global marketing and AI-outcomes agency and a premier Global Google Partner. They help brands Outperform Marketing, delivering an average of 35% revenue growth in just the first year. Visit Incubeta.com to see their "Proof of Performance" and discover the future of AI-powered growth. Reddit is a big deal, more to come Copilot no longer injecting ads into GitHub pulls iPhone Air Klipsch The Fives John still loving Zwift, Chris looking at electric cargo tricycle Ask for more at Analytics for Marketers! Sign up for the text line: 1-617-812-5494 Join John, Chris and Katie on threads, or on LinkedIn: Chris, John, and Katie Sign up for the Marketing Over Coffee Newsletter to get early access! Our theme song is Mellow G by Fonkmasters
Transcribe →Now with More Snoopy and Charlie Brown!
Mar 2600:31:38Tap to summarizeIn this Marketing Over Coffee: Melissa Menta, Peanuts Worldwide exec and lifelong Peanuts fan who serves as the brand's Senior VP, Global Brand and Communications talks to us about Snoopy, Charlie Brown and the Gang. Direct Link to File An amazing path from East Asian Studies to Marketing Broadway to Jim Henson Internet Bubble Superstart Pets.com and then to Peanuts Michael Ian Black was the Pets.com mascot! 7:28 - 9:00 Incubeta: the "old way" of marketing - with creative, media, and data stuck in silos - just doesn't work anymore. Incubeta is a global marketing and AI-outcomes agency and a premier Global Google Partner. They help brands Outperform Marketing, delivering an average of 35% revenue growth in just the first year. Visit Incubeta.com to see their "Proof of Performance" and discover the future of AI-powered growth. Arriving during a brand transition All the faces of the brand: print, video, fashion 4M+ Followers @snoopygrams The brand's historical connection to fashion Take Care With Peanuts 16:38 - 18:05 Rella for social media monitoring Over 22M followers over all social - why it resonates Snoopy and NASA Traveling for business and pleasure - hitting all 7 continents in 365 days Japan and the power of accurate translation Learn more on the podcast: You Don't Know Peanuts Ask for more at Analytics for Marketers! Sign up for the text line: 1-617-812-5494 Join John, Chris and Katie on threads, or on LinkedIn: Chris, John, and Katie Sign up for the Marketing Over Coffee Newsletter to get early access! Our theme song is Mellow G by Fonkmasters
Transcribe →Neo, Stages of AI Adoption, and Dungeon Crawler Carl
Mar 2000:26:47Tap to summarizeIn this Marketing Over Coffee: Learn about ClaudeCode updating hardware, Apple's M5 Max, SaaS Moats, and more! Direct Link to File Dealing with wonky hardware updates Using Claude Code to update software to support devices OpenAI releases GPT 5.4 Models are now writing their own software The Macbook Neo - new entry level and the M5 Max for AI Incubeta: the "old way" of marketing - with creative, media, and data stuck in silos - just doesn't work anymore. Incubeta is a global marketing and AI-outcomes agency and a premier Global Google Partner. They help brands Outperform Marketing, delivering an average of 35% revenue growth in just the first year. Visit Incubeta.com to see their "Proof of Performance" and discover the future of AI-powered growth. iPhone 17e and Air, and can we get a fat battery? Running Linux on 10 year old Macs Will open source show up when the bubble pops? The SaaS moats of data, and support Stages of AI adoption Use Framer to get websites up and running effortlessly and leave the design tool paywall behind. Ready to design, iterate, and publish all in one tool? Start creating for free at Framer.com/design, and use code MOC for a free month of Framer Pro Microsoft CoPilot CoWork SXSW Tom Webster stats on podcasts about to overtake radio SAG AFTRA doing more with podcasting Audible streaming option at $8.99 a month Software Defined Radio Dungeon Crawler Carl Ask for more at Analytics for Marketers! Sign up for the text line: 1-617-812-5494 Join John, Chris and Katie on threads, or on LinkedIn: Chris, John, and Katie Sign up for the Marketing Over Coffee Newsletter to get early access! Our theme song is Mellow G by Fonkmasters
Transcribe →Pizza and 1.7 M Instagram Followers
Mar 1300:35:45Tap to summarizeIn this Marketing Over Coffee: Frank Kabatas tells the story of New York City's East Village Pizza! Direct Link to File Coming to America and Discovering Pizza Learning English first, and then over to the West Side Doing time at Domino's Creating his own recipe 9:48 - 12:08 Use Framer to get websites up and running effortlessly and leave the design tool paywall behind. Ready to design, iterate, and publish all in one tool? Start creating for free at Framer.com/design, and use code MOC for a free month of Framer Pro Talking his brother into becoming an owner/operator 17:28 – 18:52 Fundera by NerdWallet – visit NerdWallet.com/MOC and fill out the no obligation form. You'll get VIP treatment and talk with a real person who knows all the ins and outs of small business lending. Don't risk your business on unreliable lenders. Go to NerdWallet.com/MOC to find the funding you deserve. Where did Cheesy Garlic Knots and Double Stacked Pizza come from? On Instagram... 1.7 million followers later The Walk in Cooler is the Brain of the Store Dubai on the horizon! Ask for more at Analytics for Marketers! Sign up for the text line: 1-617-812-5494 Join John, Chris and Katie on threads, or on LinkedIn: Chris, John, and Katie Sign up for the Marketing Over Coffee Newsletter to get early access! Our theme song is Mellow G by Fonkmasters
Transcribe →A Perfect Dumpster Fire Storm
Feb 2700:30:06Tap to summarizeIn this Marketing Over Coffee: Learn about Claude Code Remote Control, the LinkedIn Algorithm, Axe Body Spray, The A Team, and more! Direct Link to File Blizzard Time! Claude Code Remote Control brings iOS integration Latest update to the Unofficial LinkedIn Algorithm Guide is here! 9:10 – 10:40 Fundera by NerdWallet – visit NerdWallet.com/MOC and fill out the no obligation form. You'll get VIP treatment and talk with a real person who knows all the ins and outs of small business lending. Don't risk your business on unreliable lenders. Go to NerdWallet.com/MOC to find the funding you deserve. Google Manage Subscriptions AXE brilliantly dialing it back Free Trust Insights tool to check your web page's GEO: Try AI View Zoe Hitzig says OpenAI is Facebook all over again NEXT Insurance is built for small businesses and they make it ridiculously easy to get covered. You can do it all online in minutes: no calls, no paperwork, no hassle. Your business can be covered today. With transparent pricing, flexible plans, and instant proof of insurance, NEXT helps you protect your work, your team, and your reputation, so one mistake doesn't undo years of hustle. Get a quote today! AI says Safety Third! Claude Accounting Plugins shake the SaaS market Bitcoin to zero? John is now running on Zwift WiiM to make any speaker smart, even with HDMI support The A Team, Bombshell Rio Doorbells gaining ground after Superb Owl ad fail Chris using 222 nm UV bulbs to clear the air Ask for more at Analytics for Marketers! Sign up for the text line: 1-617-812-5494 Join John, Chris and Katie on threads, or on LinkedIn: Chris, John, and Katie Sign up for the Marketing Over Coffee Newsletter to get early access! Our theme song is Mellow G by Fonkmasters
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