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The thousand plus pages of the evolving tax and spending bill in Congress. But until you do, we'll have some cheat sheets. I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. The Senate is working through the massive tax and spending bill. The House has passed its version, but the two plans have to be reconciled. Republicans are pushing to do this without the support of Democrats, a fraught process that requires nearly all Republicans to agree. Now, this week, we're looking at some key ways this could affect the budgets of households and businesses. Marketplace's senior Washington correspondent Kimberly Adams has been swimming in the vast ocean of this evolving legislation and we'll start Broad Brush. Hey Kimberly.
Kimberly Adams
Hey David.
David Brancaccio
Fundamentally, when you step away from all these details, the reason for this legislation is many people want to keep the 2017 tax cuts from expiring, which would raise taxes on nearly everybody if it were to expire. Now in the legislation on the table now, are there any other changes to the tax rates themselves?
Kimberly Adams
The rates would stay mostly the same as the 2017 law but this whole thing about extending the tax cuts actually gets into an interesting debate about those 2017 tax cuts. You'll hear that everybody got a tax cuts and that lower income people got bigger tax cuts than higher income people. That's what some people have as their narrative. But you'll also hear from others that most of the benefits of the tax cuts went to wealthier Americans. And both of those narratives are kind of true. Here's Adam Michelle, who's director of tax policy studies at the libertarian Cato Institute.
Richard Karn
Some of the larger tax cuts will go to the higher income Americans, and that's driven by the fact that higher income Americans pay the lion's share of income taxes.
Kimberly Adams
Lots of lower income Americans end up not owing federal taxes anyway. So a tax rate cut or an extension of one may not feel like much.
David Brancaccio
All right, so a lot of people also focused on the standard deduction, where you don't have to itemize, you just lop it off. And the child tax credit. Give us some more details on changes there.
Kimberly Adams
Right. The standard deduction, which as you mentioned, most people do take rather than itemize, would become permanent at the level it is now, plus go up by 1 to $2,000 a year, depending on your FIL status, until 2028. The child tax credit increases from 2000 to $2,500, but it's not a refundable tax credit, which means that if you're low income and you don't end up owing taxes, you just don't get that much out of it, according to a study from Columbia University. That leaves one in four kids out of the benefit. Now, there are also some Trump campaign trail promises that made it into the bill. Will McBride is chief economist at the Tax Foundation.
David Brancaccio
There's a proposal for exempting tips and overtime. There's a new deduction for auto loan interest and a larger standard deduction for seniors.
Kimberly Adams
And we'll see if those provisions survive in the Senate.
David Brancaccio
All right. Now, on the other side of the accounting ledger, reducing taxes means reducing revenues that flow into the government. The Congressional Budget Office says There's close to $4 trillion in tax cuts in this bill. Or what is the plan to compensate for this?
Kimberly Adams
At this point, it looks like most of the offsets come from changing or reducing services like SNAP and Medicaid, although the proposals coming out of the Senate are looking a little bit less severe in terms of cuts than those coming out of the House. Chris Cox is director of Federal Tax Policy at the center on Budget and Policy Priorities.
Diane Swonk
The bill overall takes food assistance and health care coverage away from people with.
Kimberly Adams
Low and middle incomes. And that is extremely damaging. Even with the cuts the GOP has in mind, the House version of this legislation as it stands would still add $2.4 trillion to the deficit over 10 years, with another half trillion dollars on top of that just to pay interest on the debt.
David Brancaccio
Marketplace's senior Washington correspondent Kimberly Adams, thank you.
Kimberly Adams
You're welcome.
David Brancaccio
A cautious time for the US economy is not stopping video gamers. In the first four days since launch, they shelled out $450 each for three and a half million units of the new Switch 2 game consoles. That makes it Nintendo's fastest selling console ever, and it's an encouraging sign for the rest of that big industry. Marketplace's Savannah Peters has more.
Savannah Peters
Even with that eye watering price tag, William McKeon White, an analyst with Forrester, expects the Switch 2's momentum to hold through this year's holiday shopping season.
Kimberly Adams
I can understand it because this is the math I've been doing myself in my own head, which is do I believe that this price of this console.
Richard Karn
Will ever go down?
Savannah Peters
After past console releases, gamers could hold out for discounts a year or two after launch, but Nintendo has signaled it could raise the price of the Switch 2 depending on Trump trade policy. That gamers are willing to invest in this new console in spite of, or maybe because of economic uncertainty is a boon for other video game companies, says analyst Daniel Ahmad with Niko partners.
Richard Karn
What the Switch 2 represents right now.
Savannah Peters
Is a sort of resurgence in engagement, ahmad says. The gaming economy operates in cycles where hyped up console launches can energize customers and boost game sales, something the sector needs badly as it regroups after its pandemic boom fizzled out. I'm Savannah Peters for Marketplace.
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David Brancaccio
From the US and China agreed on a framework to get trade relations back on track, earlier this week, President Trump said two things that it was a done deal, but that both he and China's president would have to approve. The indication from Beijing today is positive. The quote from a spokesperson for China's Foreign Ministry is Now that a consensus has been reached, both sides should abide by it. Details of the negotiation have yet to be revealed. Shipping got really expensive in the last two weeks. Among the many effects of import taxes levied paused. Then last night a warning from President Trump that world capitals would soon start getting letters from the US Imposing tariff levels by country. This if these trade deals aren't reached asap. Despite tariffs, inflation remains tame, both at the consumer level and today at the wholesale level. Diane Swonk is chief economist at the audit, tax and advisory firm kpmg.
Diane Swonk
Some of that's because we saw a huge surge in inventories and many of those most at risk of tariffs did heavy discounting ahead of having deposited pay for tariffs. That said, in the PPI report, we did see that wholesalers, those in the middle, caught in the middle, are paying the most in terms of the squeeze in their profit margins due to tariffs. Those are people basically storing a lot of these tariff goods in inventory and they're right now having to bear the brunt of the burden of tariffs.
David Brancaccio
And did you see the cost of shipping across the ocean? There's a spike there that's due to tariff distortions, wouldn't you say?
Diane Swonk
Exactly. What we saw was in the days of June 2nd and June 3rd, we had the largest two day increase in shipping costs on record went up over 40% in those two days. And that's very reminiscent of the pandemic. And there's a scramble on to get goods into the country before the most prohibitive tariffs on China are reinstated. That means, you know, ships aren't where they were supposed to be. And all those shipping costs, particularly between Shanghai and New York, Shanghai and Los Angeles, those went up the most over 50% in those two days alone. This really is a stunning surge and those will add to the costs associated with tariffs.
David Brancaccio
All right, Diane Swong, chief economist at kpmg. I'm David Brancaccio. Marketplace morning report from APM American Public Media.
Kimberly Adams
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Richard Karn
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Diane Swonk
Duty.
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Marketplace Morning Report: A Cheat Sheet for the Big GOP Tax Bill Release Date: June 12, 2025
Hosted by David Brancaccio from Marketplace, this episode delves into the intricacies of the GOP's proposed tax and spending bill, its implications for various economic stakeholders, the booming sales of Nintendo's Switch 2 console, and the evolving trade relations between the U.S. and China.
Overview: The episode opens with an in-depth analysis of the sprawling tax and spending bill currently under negotiation in Congress. With the House having passed its version, the focus shifts to the Senate's efforts to reconcile differing plans without Democratic support, a challenging endeavor requiring near-universal Republican agreement.
Key Points:
Objective of the Legislation: The primary aim is to extend the 2017 tax cuts, preventing an across-the-board tax increase that would affect nearly all Americans should these cuts expire.
"Many people want to keep the 2017 tax cuts from expiring, which would raise taxes on nearly everybody if it were to expire." [01:58]
Impact on Tax Rates: According to Kimberly Adams, Marketplace's senior Washington correspondent, the proposed legislation largely maintains existing tax rates from the 2017 law. However, there's a nuanced debate surrounding the distribution of these cuts.
"Some of the larger tax cuts will go to the higher income Americans, and that's driven by the fact that higher income Americans pay the lion's share of income taxes." [02:53]
Adams elaborates that while lower-income individuals receive significant tax relief, many do not owe federal taxes and thus might not benefit substantially.
Standard Deduction and Child Tax Credit Adjustments: The bill proposes making the standard deduction permanent at its current level, with incremental increases of $1,000 to $2,000 annually until 2028, depending on filing status. Additionally, the child tax credit is set to rise from $2,000 to $2,500. However, the credit's non-refundable nature could limit benefits for low-income families.
"The child tax credit increases from 2000 to $2,500, but it's not a refundable tax credit, which means that if you're low income and you don't end up owing taxes, you just don't get that much out of it." [03:21]
Additional Provisions: The bill includes several Trump-era proposals, such as exempting tips and overtime from taxes, introducing a new deduction for auto loan interest, and increasing the standard deduction for seniors. Whether these provisions will withstand Senate scrutiny remains uncertain.
Fiscal Implications: The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the tax cuts could reduce government revenue by nearly $4 trillion over ten years. To offset this, the bill likely relies on cuts to essential services like SNAP and Medicaid, with the House version alone projecting a $2.4 trillion increase in the deficit over the next decade.
"The House version of this legislation as it stands would still add $2.4 trillion to the deficit over 10 years, with another half trillion dollars on top of that just to pay interest on the debt." [05:00]
Conclusion: The proposed bill aims to sustain tax reductions primarily benefiting higher-income individuals while extending relief to lower-income earners. However, the substantial projected deficit and potential cuts to social programs raise concerns about the bill's long-term economic impact.
Sales Milestone: Despite economic uncertainties, Nintendo's Switch 2 has achieved remarkable sales figures, moving three and a half million units in just four days at a price point of $450 each. This marks Nintendo's fastest-selling console to date, signaling robust consumer confidence in the gaming sector.
"In the first four days since launch, they shelled out $450 each for three and a half million units of the new Switch 2 game consoles." [05:26]
Industry Implications:
Sustained Momentum: Analyst William McKeon White anticipates that the Switch 2 will maintain its sales momentum through the holiday season, indicating strong market positioning.
"Expect the Switch 2's momentum to hold through this year's holiday shopping season." [05:48]
Pricing Strategy: While traditionally consoles see price reductions in their second year, Nintendo has hinted at potential price hikes for the Switch 2, influenced by trade policies. This strategy contrasts with industry norms and reflects Nintendo's confidence in sustained demand.
"Nintendo has signaled it could raise the price of the Switch 2 depending on Trump trade policy." [06:07]
Economic Resilience: The willingness of gamers to invest in the high-priced console amidst economic caution presents a positive outlook for the broader video game industry. Analyst Daniel Ahmad suggests that such consumer behavior can invigorate the sector, especially as it recovers from the post-pandemic slowdown.
"Gamers are willing to invest in this new console in spite of, or maybe because of economic uncertainty." [06:09]
Market Cycles: Savannah Peters notes that high-profile console launches can rejuvenate customer engagement and boost game sales, essential for an industry in need of revitalization after the pandemic-induced boom waned.
"The gaming economy operates in cycles where hyped up console launches can energize customers and boost game sales." [06:34]
Conclusion: Nintendo's Switch 2 exemplifies the gaming industry's potential resilience and adaptability, offering optimism for both manufacturers and developers as they navigate economic challenges and evolving consumer demands.
Trade Agreement Framework: Recent developments indicate a mutual interest between the U.S. and China to realign their trade relations. Following President Trump's remarks declaring tentative agreements, China's Foreign Ministry has expressed optimism about both parties adhering to the consensus reached.
"Now that a consensus has been reached, both sides should abide by it." [08:43]
Shipping Cost Escalation: Amidst these negotiations, shipping costs between the two nations have experienced unprecedented spikes. Between June 2nd and 3rd, shipping expenses surged by over 40%, mirroring cost increases reminiscent of the pandemic era.
"We had the largest two day increase in shipping costs on record went up over 40% in those two days." [10:13]
Economic Impact:
Inventory and Discounting: Diane Swonk of KPMG explains that retailers and wholesalers had previously stocked up on goods susceptible to tariffs, leading to heavy discounting to offload inventory before potential tariff impositions.
"We saw a huge surge in inventories and many of those most at risk of tariffs did heavy discounting ahead of having deposited pay for tariffs." [04:34]
Wholesalers' Strain: The sudden increase in shipping costs has squeezed wholesalers' profit margins, forcing businesses to bear the financial burden of inflated transport expenses.
"Wholesalers, those in the middle, are paying the most in terms of the squeeze in their profit margins due to tariffs." [09:36]
Strategic Shipping Rush: The urgent push to import goods before tariff hikes has led to logistical challenges, including delayed shipments and skyrocketing costs, especially on key routes like Shanghai to New York and Los Angeles.
"Shippings costs, particularly between Shanghai and New York, Shanghai and Los Angeles, those went up the most over 50% in those two days alone." [10:06]
Conclusion: While diplomatic efforts between the U.S. and China show promise, the immediate repercussions on shipping logistics and costs highlight the fragile nature of global trade dynamics. Businesses navigating these turbulent waters must adapt swiftly to mitigate financial strains.
In a brief interlude, the episode features an educational snippet from Bridget, co-host of the "Million Bazillion" podcast, which aims to simplify complex financial concepts for children. This segment provides a straightforward explanation of tariffs, describing them as additional taxes imposed on imported goods.
"A tariff is an extra charge or tax that countries put on goods that are made somewhere else, like in another country." [11:18]
Final Thoughts: This episode of Marketplace Morning Report offers listeners a comprehensive overview of significant economic developments, from legislative changes and industry trends to international trade dynamics. By breaking down complex topics with expert insights and relatable explanations, Marketplace ensures its audience remains well-informed and engaged.