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AI is starting to close its jaws around traditional tech From Marketplace, I'm Sabri Ben, ashore in for David Brancaccio. Software companies are in trouble. Or at least their stocks are. Salesforce helps businesses with software for sales and marketing and customer service. Its Stock is down 25% this year and it is barely February. In Intuit, they make software to help with accounting and taxes. Their stock is down 31% this year, and software stocks in general, according to an S and P index, are down 17%. The reason for all of this? Artificial intelligence. The startup Anthropic just released a new automation tool that investors fear could make many software companies obsolete. Marketplaces NovaSafo has has more Organizations with a lot of operational balls in the air use enterprise software from the likes of Salesforce, Workday, ServiceNow and others. These are companies that are just at the heart of every business worldwide today. 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We're probably between 45 and 50 employees right now, and if we were firing on all cylinders, we'd probably be closer to 60 to 65. In Kansas City, Missouri, Emily Bordner is busy with her growing retail and wholesale jewelry business, EB Co, which has four brick and mortar stores and 16 employees. We came off of a year of going viral in 2024. Sales boomed after Taylor Swift was spotted wearing one of Border's rings while cheering Travis Kelce in the stands. Last year, Border expanded, but also tariffs cut into her margins and consumers pulled back. When we opened up two more stores, we have to staff them, but we're definitely doing it as bare bones and as minimally as possible. These business owners say it's not as hard to hang on to workers as it was a few years ago. And Jim Piper says for his metal fabrication shop, gone are the days of scrambling to find skilled trade workers. When we have banner years, I need to hire four, five, six welders. That's when it becomes a challenge. 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Date: February 6, 2026
Host: Sabri Benashore (in for David Brancaccio)
Length: ~10 minutes
This episode delivers a brisk, insightful look at turmoil in software stocks as AI tools threaten legacy business models, with a specific focus on Anthropic's new automation offerings. The episode also checks in on the latest cryptocurrency rout and gauges how a weak labor market is playing out for small businesses, all while keeping a distinctive Marketplace blend of sharp analysis and on-the-ground voices.
(Main segment begins ~01:12)
Rishi Jaluria (RBC, managing director of software research):
“These are companies that are just at the heart of every business worldwide today.”
[02:06]
(On how vital enterprise software is to most organizations.)
Brent Thill (Jefferies):
“You’re not going to see massive banks that are regulated... insurance companies that have the data and process workflows... are unlikely to fully rip out these systems going forward.”
[02:42]
(Downplaying the idea that disruption will be immediate or total.)
Arun Chandrasekharan (Gartner, tech analyst):
“I think people are just surprised by the sheer pace of innovation... I thought this was going to happen in 2027, and I can’t believe that it’s happening in 2025 or 2026.”
[03:10]
(Expressing amazement at how quickly agentic AI is developing.)
Segment begins ~04:03
Nancy Marshall Genser (Marketplace reporter):
“Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies were supposed to be a safe haven investors turn to during turbulent times, but instead traders are flocking to old standbys like gold.”
[04:20]
“Crypto trades remain speculative, more like a gamble. And they have competition from sports gambling platforms and prediction gambling sites.”
[04:39]
Segment begins ~06:28
“Hiring is not an issue that I’m deeply worried about right now. Unfortunately, [I’m] more worried about bringing in enough work. It’s been a tough start to the year.”
[07:10]
“Not awesome. It’s always a little bit slow in January, especially on the brewery side. Blame Dry January for that, but this January’s been slower than last.”
[08:10]
“We’re definitely doing it as bare bones and as minimally as possible.”
[08:55]
“These are companies that are just at the heart of every business worldwide today.”
[02:06]
“...Software companies have time to integrate AI into their offerings.”
[02:55]
“I thought this was going to happen in 2027, and I can't believe it's happening in 2025 or 2026.”
[03:12]
“Crypto trades remain speculative, more like a gamble. And they have competition from sports gambling platforms and prediction gambling sites.”
[04:39]
“Hiring is not an issue that I'm deeply worried about right now. Unfortunately, [I'm] more worried about bringing in enough work.”
[07:10]
“Not awesome. ...This January's been slower than last.”
[08:10]
“We’re definitely doing it as bare bones and as minimally as possible.”
[08:55]
This Marketplace Morning Report spotlights how rapidly advancing AI is unsettling investors and legacy tech firms, even as crypto markets tumble and America’s small businesses face a new, more complicated labor and demand landscape. The episode captures a moment of economic uncertainty, technological acceleration, and business adaptation in early 2026.