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Liana Byrne
Oil giant BP scraps its green goals and bets billions on oil and gas. Good morning, this is the Marketplace morning Report and we're live from the BBC World Service. I'm Liana Byrne. BP is making a dramatic U turn under pressure from investors. It's slashing green investment and pouring $10 billion a year into oil and gas. Nick Butler is the former head of strategy at bp, now visiting professor at the Policy Institute at King's College London. Hello, Nick. Hello, Nick. What do you make of this? I mean, BP once championed a transition to renewables. You know, you used to work there. What do you think?
Nick Butler
Well, I think the verdict was made very quickly by the market. So when the statement was put out at 10 o'clock this morning, the share price fell by 5% within five minutes. I don't think this is going to be sufficient to stop the speculation about takeovers and breakups. I think it's really very surprising that the board is still in place and that there haven't been any changes there. And I think on renewables, what they should have done and what the world needs at the moment is to separate out the renewables business and to make it a different company with new investors. And they haven't done that, they've just cut the money that's going to it, which I think still leaves them trying to manage a sort of conglomerate which clearly hasn't worked.
Liana Byrne
Yeah, they haven't done that. And they're saying, you know, this switch in focus is to get higher returns, shareholder value and cash flow growth. I mean, what does this say about BP's original green strategy? Was it flawed?
Nick Butler
It was ahead of its time. Certainly I was involved in it. I think what they should do now is recognize that these are two very different businesses. Low carbon and oil. Oil and gas. They are company expert in oil and gas. We still need oil and gas and they're going to focus on that. But I think the world is changing and they shouldn't give up on renewables in this way. I think they should separate it out, let it build a separate business with different shareholders. And I think I'm just sorry that that's not what they've done.
Liana Byrne
And are they ditching renewables, do you think, because the world is changing?
Nick Butler
If they are, they're making a serious mistake? I think the world is changing, but it's recognizing the risks of cl, climate change, as well as the continuing need for oil and gas.
Liana Byrne
Okay. Nick Butler, thank you so much for joining us in Marketplace.
Nick Butler
Thanks very much.
Liana Byrne
Now let's do the numbers. BP's share prices coming back up currently down 1% and copper prices jumped 4% for two reasons. First, President Trump has doubled down on his tariff plans for Canada and Mexico. Second, markets are reacting to a massive power outage in Chile, which is home to the world's biggest copper mines. Meanwhile, Ukraine has struck a deal to let the US Jointly exploit its mineral resources. This meets a key demand from Donald Trump, who wants Kyiv to repay American military aid. The BBC's James Waterhouse is in Kyiv and has the details.
James Waterhouse
According to a source in Ukraine's presidential office. What has been agreed at this stage are the terms of an agreement with the US which includes the country's critical minerals and other resources. The provisions of the deal are much better for Ukraine now, they added. Reports suggest it would see the creation of a jointly owned fund which would be used to rebuild Ukraine's infrastructure and economy. That fund would receive a proportion of Ukraine's profits from its natural resources. But the deal does not appear to include what President Zelensky has long called for, security guarantees which would stop Russia from invading again.
Liana Byrne
James Waterhouse reporting now. Donald Trump's plan to deport millions of undocumented immigrants is raising economic concerns with many small businesses in the US owned and operated by undocumented workers. The BBC's Michelle Fleury reports from New York.
Sara E. Marquez
This is the part that makes it nice and toasty.
Michelle Fleury
At a Long island bakery, Sara E. Marquez carefully places the finishing touches on her croissants. The 34 year old came to the United States at age 6. Now she runs this family restaurant alongside her father. For her, the threat of deportation isn't new, but it's never felt this serious.
Sara E. Marquez
I still feel like I'm being persecuted, like I'm being hunted down because of my status.
Michelle Fleury
It has taken on a new sense of urgency with President Trump's plans for mass deportation and led to some tough conversations with her staff.
Sara E. Marquez
I had a cook say to me, I'm scared to go home because I don't know if I will make it home. I don't know if I will be stopped. Along the way, I've seen business go down. There's much fewer customers, customers coming around. We employ so many people. Like, I don't want to do that to them, put their lives at risk. Coming to work.
Michelle Fleury
Despite her family's contributions to the local community, she's worried about the future.
Sara E. Marquez
I'm college educated, business owner, multiple businesses. I do right. I'm part of the community, but I'm still considered a criminal because of what? Of coming into the country as a child. And I don't have a legal pathway to fix that.
Michelle Fleury
In the Church St. John the Divine, a vigil was held in New York to support migrants and promise sanctuary to the undocumented on the very same day that the Department of Justice sued the city over its immigration policies. For those caught up in Donald Trump's immigration immigration crackdown, this isn't just a personal tragedy, it's an economic one for their communities, who rely on their labour, their tax revenues and the money they spend in local businesses. Jessie Lee manages Renaissance, a non profit that finances immigrant businesses.
Sara E. Marquez
Small businesses are the backbone of our economy.
Michelle Fleury
I caught up with her in Queens where she was visiting one of her clients. She sees a difference from the last time Trump was in the White House.
Sara E. Marquez
This fear is new. We didn't experience this the first time around, but this time we do see that type of concern.
Raymond Liu
This one is to. For birds. Yeah, we trap them and release them.
Michelle Fleury
Raymond Liu runs a business, M and M Environmental, a pest control company that employs 70 people. He came to the United States legally from China and understands what motivates people to seek a life here.
Raymond Liu
I would imagine everybody come to the country, legal or illegal. We want to work hard and, you know, just do well, establish ourselves. Right. That's the American dream.
Michelle Fleury
The threats and hurdles are working. People are scared. With immigrant communities feeling the strain. In New York, I'm the BBC's Michelle Fleury for Marketplace.
Liana Byrne
And that's it from the Marketplace Morning Report from the BBC World Service. James Graham is our producer today. I'm Liana Byrne. Have a great day and thanks for.
Marketplace Morning Report Summary
Episode: BP to Increase Oil and Gas Investments
Release Date: February 26, 2025
Host: Liana Byrne
Produced by: James Graham
In this episode of the Marketplace Morning Report, host Liana Byrne delivers a comprehensive analysis of BP’s strategic pivot back to oil and gas investments, the resulting market reactions, and broader economic implications. The report also delves into geopolitical developments concerning Ukraine’s mineral resources and examines the economic impact of President Trump’s immigration policies on small businesses in the United States.
BP, historically a leader in renewable energy initiatives, has recently announced a significant reversal of its green investment strategy. Under mounting pressure from investors, the oil giant is redirecting its focus by slashing green investments and allocating $10 billion annually toward oil and gas projects.
Liana Byrne introduces the topic:
"BP is making a dramatic U-turn under pressure from investors. It's slashing green investment and pouring $10 billion a year into oil and gas." [00:48]
Nick Butler, the former head of strategy at BP and now a visiting professor at the Policy Institute at King’s College London, provides his insights into this strategic shift.
Key Points from Nick Butler:
Market Reaction: The announcement led to an immediate 5% drop in BP’s share price within five minutes of the statement being released.
"The share price fell by 5% within five minutes." [01:28]
Corporate Governance Concerns: Butler expresses surprise that there have been no changes to BP’s board despite the significant strategic overhaul.
Separation of Business Units: He criticizes BP for not separating its renewables division into a distinct entity with new investors.
"They should have separated out the renewables business and made it a different company with new investors." [02:17]
Renewables Strategy: Butler believes BP’s original green strategy was ahead of its time but acknowledges the ongoing global need for oil and gas.
"The world is changing and they shouldn't give up on renewables in this way." [02:30]
Butler warns that abandoning renewables could be a strategic mistake, emphasizing the dual necessity of addressing climate change while meeting the global demand for oil and gas.
"If they are ditching renewables, they're making a serious mistake." [03:07]
Following BP’s announcement, the report highlights a slight recovery in BP’s shares, which are currently down 1%. Additionally, copper prices surged by 4% due to two primary factors:
Ukraine has brokered an agreement with the United States to jointly exploit its mineral resources, addressing key demands from President Trump.
James Waterhouse reports from Kyiv:
"The agreement includes Ukraine's critical minerals and other resources, creating a jointly owned fund to rebuild Ukraine's infrastructure and economy." [03:57]
Details of the Agreement:
President Trump’s plan to deport millions of undocumented immigrants is causing significant economic anxiety among small business owners who rely heavily on immigrant labor.
Michelle Fleury reports from New York, highlighting the personal stories of affected business owners:
Sara E. Marquez, owner of a Long Island bakery, shares her fears:
"I still feel like I'm being persecuted, like I'm being hunted down because of my status." [05:08]
Impact on Business Operations:
Employee Anxiety: Staff are terrified of deportation, leading to decreased productivity and higher turnover.
"I had a cook say to me, I'm scared to go home because I don't know if I will make it home." [05:25]
Economic Decline: Reduced customer patronage and fear among employees are causing a downturn in business.
"I've seen business go down. There's much fewer customers." [05:25]
Community and Economic Ramifications:
Renaissance Non-Profit: Jessie Lee, managing Renaissance, emphasizes the crucial role of immigrant-run businesses in the economy.
"Small businesses are the backbone of our economy." [06:47]
Increased Fear Among Immigrants: The current administration's stance has intensified fears compared to previous periods.
"This fear is new. We didn't experience this the first time around." [06:59]
Raymond Liu, owner of M and M Environmental, articulates the broader implications:
"We want to work hard and, you know, just do well, establish ourselves. Right. That's the American dream." [07:25]
The Marketplace Morning Report episode sheds light on BP’s controversial shift back to oil and gas, reflecting broader tensions between renewable energy initiatives and traditional fossil fuel dependencies. The immediate negative market response underscores investor concerns about BP’s long-term strategy. Additionally, geopolitical developments in Ukraine and domestic immigration policies under President Trump are portrayed as significant factors influencing global markets and local economies. The episode emphasizes the intricate balance between economic growth, environmental responsibility, and socio-political stability.
Liana Byrne wraps up the episode:
"And that's it from the Marketplace Morning Report from the BBC World Service. James Graham is our producer today. I'm Liana Byrne. Have a great day and thanks for." [07:49]
This summary encapsulates the critical discussions and insights from the episode, providing a clear and detailed overview for those who have not listened to the original podcast.