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Can a Hollywood studio get too big?
I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. A bidding war over Warner Brothers Discovery is heating up. One suitor, Netflix, appears to be pulling ahead of the rest. But the deal is not sealed. Marketplace's Nancy Marshall Genzer reports Warner Bros.
Nancy Marshall Genzer
Discovery is apparently in exclusive talks with Netflix. This was first reported by Bloomberg, which says Warner Brothers would sell its film and TV studios and HBO Max streaming service to Netflix and spin off its cable channels, including cnn, before the deal closed. Comcast and Paramount also won by Warner Bros. Paramount is calling the bidding process tainted and says Warner Brothers is favoring Netflix. Any deal Warner Brothers makes has to be approved by regulators. Some lawmakers are already raising antitrust concerns. Republican Congressman Darrell Issa of California wrote a letter to the Justice Department. He says if Netflix and Warner Brothers combined, they'd control More than 30% of the streaming market. A threshold he says is quote, unquote, traditionally viewed as presumptively problematic under antitrust law. I'm Nancy Marshall Genser for Marketplace.
David Brancaccio
This morning we'll get a reading on inflation. The go to number for the guardians of interest rates at the Federal Reserve. Personal consumption expenditures has that price increase information, but the data we get today is kind of moldy cheese. It's September's data delayed by the government shutdown. The the Fed is expected to lower interest rates slightly next week at a time that it's especially hard to tell if it's inflation or a flagging job market that's the most pressing problem.
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David Brancaccio
Few weeks ago, the Economist magazine people convened what was called the Space Economy Summit in Houston. A few weeks earlier, it was the Lunar and Mars Economy Summit. There's no economy on the Moon now, but governments and private companies are hard at work to change that. This week on this program, we're looking at opportunities on the Moon and potential costs. We've heard from a Moon economist and two companies laying the plumbing for a lunar economy. But what should be the guardrails? Mary Jane Rubenstein is dean of Social Sciences and a professor of Religion and Science and Technology Studies at Wesleyan University. Welcome.
Mary Jane Rubenstein
Thank you so much for having me.
Interviewer
You know, I was going to ask, when we think about an emerging lunar economy, you know who owns the moon. But then you know I found the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, which seems to ban private ownership of celestial bodies. Is it a settled matter?
Mary Jane Rubenstein
Well, it is settled, and it is not settled. It is settled insofar as over a hundred major nations have signed on to the Outer Space Treaty, which dictates, as you've said, that nobody can own part or all of a planetary body. It is not settled insofar as the US recently in 2015 in particular, has passed legislation arguing that some citizens, by which they mean corporations, can in fact own the materials that they recover from a lunar body. So you can't own part of the moon, but you can own the stuff that the moon contains.
Interviewer
All right, well, that brings us right to mining and the rules that might apply if they find something of value that they would like to extract on the moon. What protocols might guide that.
Mary Jane Rubenstein
It's actually not clear whether or not ownership is guaranteed or protected. And so that is going to be worked out in the courts and it'll be worked out on the lunar surface.
Nancy Marshall Genzer
Really?
Interviewer
Yeah. And that gets us to, you know, who would get to do that that would be the fastest and the mightiest? The country or group or interest that gets there first and can defend the perimeter.
Mary Jane Rubenstein
That's right. So there are plenty of nations that object to the way that the US and some of the other larger nations have gone about making unilateral legislation on these matters. But those tend to be non space faring nations. And the rules, it seems, are going to be set by those nations that can make it up there and set policy as they go.
Interviewer
You could just imagine a private interest wanting to build a big structure on the lunar surface that would be visible from Earth, like a perpetual piece of advertising. Someone might object to that a couple.
Mary Jane Rubenstein
Of years ago when a mission, a privately funded mission intended to deposit human remains on the lunar surface in a kind of ritual burial and the Navajo Nation objected to this and said, you can't just do whatever you want on the surface of the moon. And these corporations said, yes, we absolutely can. And the Navajo Nation appealed to NASA and NASA said, we don't have any control over private corporations. So we are in this age where private actors, in a fairly unregulated fashion, are able to pursue all kinds of interests without much oversight and over the objections of many other actors, as humans.
Interviewer
Map out what the rules might be for using the Moon. I mean, as you think about the ethics of answering that question, I mean, one thing that would come to mind would be, one hopes it's a transparent process.
Mary Jane Rubenstein
I think one of the major impediments to that openness is that there is no operative relationship between the US And China when it comes to space matters. It's almost seen as an imperative to maintain some kind of secrecy in order to rival China, to make sure that the US Gets there in order to set the rules before China does.
David Brancaccio
Mary J. Rubenstein is dean of Social.
Interviewer
Sciences and professor of Religion and Science and Technology Studies at Wesleyan University in Connecticut.
David Brancaccio
Thank you so much.
Mary Jane Rubenstein
Of course. Thank you so much for having me.
David Brancaccio
Marketplace.org has more of our Moon Economy series, and when we say Moon, some think rockets. As a certified Level two amateur rocketeer, I see lessons for stock market investing in the glorious successes and ignominious failures of my own launches. That video is streamable from TikTok, Facebook or Instagram, where Marketplace APM is the way to find us. Our executive producer is Nancy Fargali. Our digital team includes Antoinette Brock, Emily McCune and Dylan Mietanen. Our engineers are Rachel Brees and Tessa Block. In Los Angeles, I'm David Brancaccio. This is the Marketplace Morning Report.
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Episode Theme:
This episode delivers a concise update on key business and economic developments, focusing on Netflix’s potential acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery, the evolving lunar economy, and a quick preview of inflation data. The main stories include the strategic and regulatory implications of the Netflix-Warner Bros. Discovery deal, as well as an exploration of emerging rules (or lack thereof) for commercial activities on the Moon.
[00:46 – 02:01]
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
“Republican Congressman Darrell Issa of California wrote a letter to the Justice Department. He says if Netflix and Warner Brothers combined, they'd control more than 30% of the streaming market. A threshold he says is, quote-unquote, traditionally viewed as presumptively problematic under antitrust law.”
— Nancy Marshall Genzer [01:33]
[02:01 – 02:50]
Key Points:
Notable Moment:
“The data we get today is kind of moldy cheese. It’s September’s data delayed by the government shutdown.”
— David Brancaccio [02:24]
[04:20 – 08:30]
Key Discussion Points:
Notable Quotes:
“It is settled, and it is not settled… Nobody can own part or all of a planetary body. It is not settled insofar as the US… has passed legislation arguing that some citizens, by which they mean corporations, can in fact own the materials that they recover from a lunar body.”
— Mary Jane Rubenstein [05:14]
“The rules, it seems, are going to be set by those nations that can make it up there and set policy as they go.”
— Mary Jane Rubenstein [06:26]
“We are in this age where private actors, in a fairly unregulated fashion, are able to pursue all kinds of interests, without much oversight and over the objections of many other actors.”
— Mary Jane Rubenstein [07:23]
“One of the major impediments to that openness is that there is no operative relationship between the US and China when it comes to space matters. It's almost seen as an imperative to maintain some kind of secrecy in order to rival China…”
— Mary Jane Rubenstein [08:00]
[08:32 – 08:50]:
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