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David Brancaccio
One year since the costliest wildfires in terms of property damage in world history, how are people paying to live elsewhere? I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. A survey from the fall of people displaced by the Southern California wildfires one year ago found most still living in temporary housing, 75% from the Palisades and 67% from Altadena. Since since few houses have been rebuilt. One year later, how are people paying for shelter? Insurance policies are supposed to have loss of use coverage, also called fair rental value or additional living expenses. Ale. Many fire survivors don't have that, or for some, it's running out. Let's consult Joy Chen, executive director of the Eden Fire Survivors Network, a grassroots group that coalesced in Altadena, Pasadena. Joy, welcome.
Joy Chen
Hi there. Hi David.
David Brancaccio
I want to zoom in on a subset of fire insurance, which is coverage to pay for you to live somewhere else because you may have owned a house in a place like Altadena or the Palisades, but you can't live there anymore because there's nothing left or it's so damaged from smoke and soot that you don't dare to live in there yet. How is that system supposed to work and how is it working?
Joy Chen
It's called ale, or Different Insurance companies call it different things. It's interesting because most people assume that we have three years of coverage. However, the way it works in practice is it's three Years of coverage up to your policy limits, up to the dollar amount that's specified in your insurance policy. Prior to the fire, the average rent that tenants paid was $1,700 a month. That means that a lot of tenants were shacking up with relatives, maybe just paying utilities or living in other non traditional situations. Now so much of that non traditional housing stock is gone and suddenly they're looking at rents of 4, 5, $6,000. 61% of us are. Housing coverage is going to be gone in the next few months.
David Brancaccio
The fire that affects actually me and the fire that affects you most directly is the one centered around Altadena, where there is strong emerging evidence that it's linked to a spark from the electric power company's equipment. And that has some people, I think you and your group thinking about some kind of remedy for this situation of the money is running out for so many people to pay for this alternative place to live.
Joy Chen
Well, that's right. We have built a coalition who are calling on Edison to provide emergency housing support this winter to keep families safely housed until they can get home from the fire. That Edison cost. It wouldn't even cost Edison How? Out of pocket expenses because they will be reimbursed by the Wildfire Fund which the public set up.
David Brancaccio
Now, Edison has an elaborate system of offering to pay compensation to people who have lost homes or had damaged homes in the fire. It's an accelerated system that might be faster than other people who are suing, but what your group is proposing is something that would be faster still.
Joy Chen
More immediately, under Edison's proposed Wildfire relief compensation program, you have to surrender your lifelong rights to pursue any legal claims against the company in order to access that program, tenants will receive three months of pre fire rent. And for smoke damage households, they get a total of $10,000 if they're within this very small map boundary that Edison provides. Right now, the problem we're facing is that families have to cover that cash gap. But we don't have the money, you know, we don't have the funds to keep ourselves safely housed until we get home from Edison's fire.
David Brancaccio
Joy Chen is executive director of the Eaton Fire Survivors Network. Thank you very much.
Joy Chen
Thank you, David, for having me.
David Brancaccio
In a statement to us, the power company Southern California Edison said there are, quote, many forms of compensation available through its voluntary program, including support for renters and owners to compensate compensate for displacement and temporary housing. The company also said it's committed to helping the community recover. You can read Edison's full response at Marketplace Dot org. Now if you want to see some of this, I share some of what I've learned from my neighbors on one street in Altadena. We're on a single block. Fifteen houses were total losses, including mine. One way to see our new video Instagram, the handle Marketplace, APM and First the Washington Post and the New York Times have seen a document outlining a Trump administration scenario to cut staffing at the Federal Emergency Management Agency by about half or 11,500 people. FEMA told the Times this was, quote, a routine pre decisional workforce planning exercise. A law passed after Hurricane Katrina does limit the administration's ability to make changes that reduce FEMA's ability to deal with disasters.
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David Brancaccio
To echoes of the great supply chain crisis of the early 20s. Honda still cannot reopen a factory in China amid a microchip shortage. Chip prices are also rising. Marketplace's Kristen Schwab has more.
Kristen Schwab
If you're a company producing anything that requires computer chips right now, this is.
Jimmy Allen
Actually worse than what happened during COVID.
Kristen Schwab
Alvin Wen, a senior analyst at Forrester, says that's because the pandemic shortage was fueled by a sudden demand from consumers for computers. The this time, it's about the monumental investment in AI, which requires specialized chips.
Jimmy Allen
They're in such demand, very few organizations can get them.
Kristen Schwab
How bad the shortage gets and how long it lasts depends on a few factors like domestic manufacturing and tariffs. Renzo DiMeo is head of the consulting firm RCD Advisors.
Joy Chen
The real big one is really the durability of the whole AI expansion, how.
Kristen Schwab
Long the AI frenzy lasts, demayo says. Generally, though, this is just how the chip industry is. There's a regular ebb and flow of too much than too little supply.
Joy Chen
Right now, there is no end in sight, he says.
Kristen Schwab
Consumers are likely to first see price increases for TVs, smartphones and computers. I'm Kristen Schwab for Marketplace markets.
David Brancaccio
S and P futures are down a tenth of a percent. NASDAQ futures are down a quarter percent, Dow futures up just slightly In Los Angeles, I'm David Brancaccio, Marketplace MORNING Report from APM American Public Media. Hey, it's David Brancaccio, host of the Marketplace Morning Report. It has been one year since the costliest set of wildfires in California history, U.S. history, and by at least one calculation, the history of the world. 16,000 structures were destroyed, most of them homes. I can quote you figures about insured versus uninsured losses measured in billions. But as people in the fire zones face year two, we go from macro to micro. I'm checking in with the neighbors on one street in Altadena where 15 homes were destroyed on a single block. These are my own neighbors. I lost a home on that street, too. Join us for on the ground reporting as we hear from people still dealing with insurance, getting permits, finding contractors. One guy had to go through 30 contractors to find one with the right skills he could afford. Plus, for most, rebuilding is taking years. How do people find the money to live elsewhere? Listen to the Marketplace Morning Report using your favorite podcast. Applause.
Episode: Recovery remains slow for Eaton Fire survivors
Date: January 5, 2026
Host: David Brancaccio
Guest: Joy Chen, Executive Director, Eaton Fire Survivors Network
This episode centers on the lingering economic and housing hardships facing survivors of the devastating Eaton Fire in Southern California, one year after it became the costliest wildfire event in global history. Host David Brancaccio interviews Joy Chen from the Eaton Fire Survivors Network to discuss the persistent challenges of temporary housing, insufficient insurance coverage, and ongoing efforts to secure support from utility companies—especially as insurance benefits expire and rebuilding lags far behind need.
Joy Chen, on the precariousness of current housing:
"61% of us are housing coverage is going to be gone in the next few months." [02:48]
Joy Chen, on coalition efforts:
"We have built a coalition who are calling on Edison to provide emergency housing support this winter..." [03:46]
Joy Chen, on limits of fire compensation programs:
"...under Edison's proposed Wildfire relief compensation program, you have to surrender your lifelong rights to pursue any legal claims against the company in order to access that program." [04:32]
David Brancaccio, on personal loss:
"Fifteen houses were total losses, including mine." [05:34]
The episode maintains the empathetic, straightforward tone typical of public radio business reporting, blending personal connection, investigative rigor, and community advocacy. Both Brancaccio and Chen speak candidly, with Chen representing fire survivors’ frustrations while calmly outlining the facts and necessary next steps.
Recovery remains slow for Eaton Fire survivors, with most still displaced and facing soaring rents. Insurance coverage is running out, and utility compensation programs impose difficult trade-offs. Survivors and advocates are pushing for immediate relief from the responsible utility, as the long road to rebuilding continues. The episode draws attention both to the systemic issues in disaster recovery and the urgent personal realities of those affected—including the host himself.
For more detailed reporting and survivor stories, visit Marketplace.org or follow their updates on Instagram @MarketplaceAPM.