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David Brancaccio
Switcheroo from the Pandemic not much vacant retail space these days. I'm David Brancaccio 4.1% of retail space in America is empty, meaning most of it is occupied. That's according to a new report out this morning from the commercial real estate firm jll. That's near an historic low. But that said, construction of new retail space has been sluggish as marketplaces, Henry Epp reports.
Henry Epp
There's pretty strong demand for retail space, so rents have been climbing, says Keisha Virtue at jll. But new retail in desirable locations is still pretty expensive to build.
Keisha Virtue
Material costs, labor costs, land costs, all.
Henry Epp
Those factor in the problem is developers can likely make more money right now building other kinds of properties, says Brandon Svak at Costar.
Brandon Svak
If I'm gonna have a higher return by building multifamily, by building medical office, that's where I'm going to going to choose to allocate my time and resources.
Henry Epp
A bunch of store closures might free up more retail space soon. Think Walgreens, Party City and Macy's. That's happening, Spec says, because there were fewer closures post pandemic, as cash flush consumers flocked back to stores.
Brandon Svak
Certain businesses that maybe had business models that were lacking or store fleets that were underperforming were able to mask that because of this large overall boost in consumption.
Henry Epp
But now consumers have gotten a little more discerning with their money, so more chains are closing locations, so retailers that are growing are working with what they can find, says Angie Solanke at Colliers.
Angie Solanke
I think the retailers are getting much more sophisticated on their store operations, allowing them to be more nimble in going larger or going smaller and adapting to what's available in the marketplace.
Henry Epp
Meaning you might soon see a Five Below or Dollar General in a former Walgreens. I'm Henry Epp for Marketplace.
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David Brancaccio
This week, we're bringing you a personal story about racial discrimination in housing in America. In Unlocking the Gates, Marketplace special correspondent Lee Hawkins learned his family got into their house after a nighttime real estate deal allowed black families to buy in a Minnesota suburb. Today, how discrimination in the state of Minnesota became national policy, aided and abetted by wealthy business owners and politicians. Lee grew up east of St. Paul, a town called Maplewood where entrepreneurs named James and Francis Hughes had opened the gates for dozens of families like his.
Lee Hawkins
Before Maplewood could become a community where black families could thrive, it was a place where they weren't even welcome. I read an article about an organization called Mapping Prejudice, which identifies clauses that say this house should never be sold to a person of color. So we had this talk. Do you remember that?
Penny Peterson
I certainly do. It was 2018.
Lee Hawkins
Here's co founder Penny Peterson.
Penny Peterson
You gave me the name of Mr. Hughes. Interestingly, after the Hughes bought it in 1946, a guy called Richard Nelson, who was living in Maplewood, started putting covenants around it.
Lee Hawkins
There were people who were making statements that were basically explicitly excluding negroes from life, liberty and happiness. One was a former lieutenant governor.
Penny Peterson
The first covenant seems to be by Edmund G. Walton. But he needs outside capital. And so he starts courting this guy called HB Scott, who is land agent for the Burlington Railroad in Iowa, and he's immensely wealthy. Scott basically underwrites this thing called what will be eventually known as Seven Oaks Corporation. He gets this in place in 1910. Walton, via Henry Scott, puts the first covenant in. He doesn't want to have his name associated with this. I mean, it is a violation of the 14th Amendment. Let's be clear about that. But within a few years, these things are not only recorded, but Walton is advertising in the newspaper about covenants. So it's totally respectable. And then this is where Thomas Frankson comes in in Ramsey County. He's still in the legislature when he puts his first covenant property together. Frankson's Como park. And in 1913, he's advertising in the newspapers.
Lee Hawkins
Michael Corey, associate director of Mapping Prejudice, explains how these covenants were enforced.
Keisha Virtue
Theoretically, you could take someone to court if they violated the covenant, and they would lose the house. The house would revert back to the original person who put the covenant in.
Lee Hawkins
So I'm now clear on how these wealthy and powerful figures in my home state came up with a system to keep anybody who was not white locked out of the housing market. I'm still not clear on how these ideas spread around the country.
Keisha Virtue
This is the moment when these national realty boards are being formed. And so all of these people are in these rooms saying, hey, we've got this innovative technology. It's a racial covenant. And when you get to the era of the New Deal, like, these are the people who are on the boards that are, like, setting federal policy. And a lot of this stuff gets codified into federal legislation. So it starts as a private practice, becomes the official policy of the U.S. government.
David Brancaccio
Our Lee Hawkins references a former Minnesota lieutenant governor, Thomas Frankson, and his role in normalizing racial covenants. In tomorrow's report, we'll hear from that state's current lieutenant governor about contemporary efforts to address racial disparities in home ownership. The full version of Lee's reporting, unlocking the Gates, is streamable from marketplace.org I'm David Brancaccio with our morning report from APM, American Public Media.
Marketplace Morning Report: Unlocking The Gates – Racial Covenants Go National
Release Date: February 13, 2025
Host: David Brancaccio
In this episode of Marketplace Morning Report, host David Brancaccio delves into a compelling narrative about the pervasive racial discrimination in American housing. Titled "Unlocking The Gates: Racial Covenants Go National," the episode explores how discriminatory housing practices in Minnesota set a precedent that influenced national policies, perpetuated by affluent business owners and politicians.
Before transitioning to the main feature, the episode begins with an analysis of the current retail real estate landscape in America.
Vacancy Rates and Demand:
Challenges in Retail Development:
Impact of Store Closures:
Retail Adaptation:
The core of the episode presents an in-depth investigation into the history and national expansion of racial covenants in housing, focusing on personal narratives and historical contexts.
Personal Story and Historical Context:
Mapping Racial Prejudice:
Legislative and Societal Endorsement:
Enforcement Mechanisms:
National Spread and Federal Policies:
Legacy and Continued Impact:
David Brancaccio wraps up the episode by connecting historical injustices to contemporary efforts aimed at rectifying racial disparities in housing:
Keisha Virtue, JLL:
Brandon Svak, CoStar:
Penny Peterson, Mapping Prejudice:
Angie Solanke, Colliers:
Historical Foundations: Racial covenants were systematically implemented in the early 20th century to exclude people of color from certain housing markets, with significant support from influential individuals and organizations.
Legal Enforcement: These covenants were legally binding, enabling communities to enforce segregation through the courts.
National Policy Integration: The practices, initially local, were adopted nationally and integrated into federal housing policies during the New Deal era, perpetuating racial segregation in housing.
Continued Impact: The legacy of these covenants continues to influence racial disparities in home ownership and economic opportunities in the United States today.
Future Efforts: Contemporary leaders are acknowledging these historical injustices and are working towards policies that address and rectify these deep-seated disparities.
For a comprehensive understanding of the historical and ongoing impact of racial covenants in American housing, listen to the full episode of "Unlocking The Gates: Racial Covenants Go National" available on marketplace.org.