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Diane Swonk (1:26)
Good morning.
David Brancaccio (1:27)
When you get the person who's arguably the most powerful economic policymaker in the land, Jerome Powell at the Fed, talking about supply shocks, that brings back bad memories of COVID It certainly would get your attention.
Diane Swonk (1:41)
Absolutely. This is one of the things the Federal Reserve is looking at is that they're concerned that the kind of paralysis and panic we've seen from the on again off again tariffs and the lifting of tariffs and then lowering them for a pause for 90 days, that that is creating an environment that's not unlike the disruptions we saw to supply chains during the height of the pandemic and then the inflation that ensued thereafter. And that is something the Federal Reserve is very worried about. They're worried about, about of stagflation. But they're worried about the fact that we're setting up in the pipeline these sort of stops and starts that add frictions to the economy. And friction is heat in the form of inflation. And what is worrisome is that they don't see it going away anyt that they see us in a period of extended supply shocks which is not unlike what we saw also in the 1970s.
David Brancaccio (2:36)
The 1970s. All right. But fresh economic data this morning is a bit of a chill pill. Wholesale inflation not up, but down, Retail sales not down. Ticking along, exactly.
