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Benjamin Shapiro
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Then it's just a matter of timing.
Welcome to the Martech Podcast, a member of the I Hear Everything Podcast Network. In this podcast, you'll hear the stories of world class marketers that you Technology to drive business results and achieve career success. Here's the host of the Martech Podcast, Benjamin Shapiro
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phrase from every AI marketing keynote, what would it be?
Amanda Cole
Probably AI. I mean it's just. It just is marketing. I mean you can't you I AI has been embedded in marketing for a very long time. We've used models and predictions and optimization that is at least some version of AI. Generative AI certainly changed the game. Large language models have made a really big difference on what how applicable AI is and the power of it. But I do think we should stop saying AI.
Benjamin Shapiro
Yeah, it's kind of like saying, oh, we're going to do some mobile marketing. That's just called marketing now. Everybody's on their phones all the time. You don't have to say the mobile part.
Amanda Cole
Yeah. Or like get on the Internet or
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I don't know, I'm going to log on. My favorite one or least favorite I should say is democratize.
Amanda Cole
Uh huh.
Benjamin Shapiro
Right. Like we're democratizing cookies in this podcast. You got to be killing me. I cannot stand democratize. That needs to go away and never show up in a keynote. You're just doing marketing. All right. And that wraps up this episode of the Martech Podcast. Thanks to Amanda Cole, the CMO of BloomReach, for joining us.
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If you'd like to contact Amanda, you can find a link to her LinkedIn profile on our show notes or on martechpod.com or you can visit her company's website, which is bloomreach.com if you haven't subscribed yet and you want a daily stream of marketing and technology knowledge in your podcast feed, hit the subscribe button in your podcast app or on YouTube and we'll be back in your feed next week. All right, that's it for today, but until next time, my advice is to just focus on keeping your customers happy.
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Host: Benjamin Shapiro
Guest: Amanda Cole (CMO, BloomReach)
Release Date: June 24, 2026
This concise episode of the MarTech Podcast explores the growing ubiquity of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in marketing, addressing the buzzwords that have become overused or irrelevant in a rapidly changing industry. Benjamin Shapiro and Amanda Cole reflect on how certain technical terms, notably “AI”, have transitioned from cutting-edge to redundant, and discuss why marketers need to focus less on jargon and more on meaningful, customer-centric strategies.
“Probably AI. I mean it's just... it just is marketing. AI has been embedded in marketing for a very long time. We've used models and predictions and optimization— that is at least some version of AI. Generative AI certainly changed the game. Large language models have made a really big difference on what—how applicable AI is and the power of it. But I do think we should stop saying AI.” (02:29)
“Yeah, it's kind of like saying, oh, we're going to do some mobile marketing. That's just called marketing now. Everybody's on their phones all the time. You don't have to say the mobile part.”
Amanda: “Yeah. Or like get on the Internet or...”
Benjamin: “I don't know, I'm going to log on.”
“My favorite one — or least favorite I should say — is ‘democratize’. Right? Like we're democratizing cookies in this podcast. You gotta be killing me. I cannot stand ‘democratize’. That needs to go away and never show up in a keynote. You're just doing marketing.”
Amanda Cole [02:29]:
“Probably AI. I mean it's just... it just is marketing. AI has been embedded in marketing for a very long time... But I do think we should stop saying AI.”
Benjamin Shapiro [02:54]:
“Yeah, it's kind of like saying, ‘oh, we're going to do some mobile marketing.’ That's just called marketing now. Everybody's on their phones all the time.”
Benjamin Shapiro [03:13]:
“My favorite one — or least favorite I should say — is ‘democratize’. Right? Like we're democratizing cookies in this podcast. You gotta be killing me.”
Conversational, irreverent, and practical. The episode blends industry insight with humor and a healthy skepticism towards overused jargon, while consistently urging listeners to center marketing around customer impact rather than buzzwords.
This episode cuts through typical MarTech hype, reminding listeners that as technology becomes deeply woven into marketing, smart professionals will drop the qualifiers and focus on what really matters: connecting authentically with audiences and delivering results, not just talking about the next shiny tool.
Best takeaway:
AI isn’t a differentiator anymore—it’s the baseline. It’s time to let go of techno-jargon and just do great marketing.