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Welcome to the Martech Podcast, a member of the I Hear Everything Podcast Network. In this podcast, you'll hear the stories of world class marketers that you use technology to drive business results and achieve career success. Here's the host of the Martech Podcast, Benjamin Shapiro
Benjamin Shapiro
I'm Benjamin Shapiro and today I'm joined by Adam Rich, the CEO of Known for, which turns professional expertise into consistent executive content using an expert in the Loop editorial system. Adam was also the founder of Thrillist, which he scaled to 300 million monthly users before its acquisition by Vox Media. And today Adam is going to explain why LinkedIn authority in B2B marketing is shifting from brands more to people.
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Benjamin Shapiro
What's the biggest lesson you learned scaling Thrillist to 300 million monthly users?
Adam Rich
It was really just about consistency and quality. That was the name of the game. Thrillist, for most of its sort of early days, was a newsletter, barely a website. And that thing of showing up every day with something good, something we could recommend, was really, really hard. And it was a tremendous executional undertaking. And operationalizing a team around doing that in 21 different cities was the undertaking of my career. But it was what allowed us to grow and to earn the trust of as many people as we did. And it really was, you know, showing up every day, being consistent. You could count on us, and we're going to show up with quality and we are going to, you know, have some relevance and some timeliness. So that when you get that email, there's a reason why I'm getting it today.
Benjamin Shapiro
When did you leave Thrillist? And I don't know if it actually closed, if the domain is still around, but in your mind, when did it wrap up?
Adam Rich
I left in 2018, and I assume it became bad right after that. But it's. No, it's still around, and they got some good people working there. You know, it's.
Benjamin Shapiro
It.
Adam Rich
It really feels like it had kind of a heyday in the end of the aughts, early teens, and, you know, it really felt like it was aligned with the Zeitgeist around then of kind of the explosion of craft and all kinds of cities really kind of exploring their, like, culinary traditions and, you know, the craft beer thing happening and barbecue exploding and burger worship kind of peaking and, you know, all of these things really kind of were tailwinds for us.
Benjamin Shapiro
It's funny that your answer was consistency, and when I assumed your response was going to be more about cracking into the Zeitgeist and building the brand. And I think, you know, the most remarkable thing about Thrillist is you left in 2018, so obviously it was downhill from there. But it's still a brand that has that recall. Right when we were introduced and somebody said, oh, this is the founder of Thrillist, I'm like, thrillist, know it, love it. It's still in my memory as a place to go find cool stuff to do. How did you do that?
Adam Rich
I mean, look, that was. That's consistency, I'm sorry to say, Benjamin. It's, you know, you can have your brand want to represent all kinds of things, but it's only if you reinforce it 100 times in a row with zero variation or confusion that your average kind of distracted, overwhelmed consumer starts to have an association with it, much less any kind of real trust or affinity. You know, the zeitgeist part was a huge strategic element of creating a breakout brand and, you know, really kind of a sine qua non for existing and succeeding. But that intention wouldn't have meant anything if we weren't able to show up every single day and earn that trust kind of brick by brick.
Benjamin Shapiro
All right, Adam, great to have you on the podcast. Thanks for coming on and being my guest. And that wraps up this episode of the Martech podcast. Thanks to Adam Rich, the CEO of Known for, for joining us. If you'd like to get in touch with Adam, you can find a link to his LinkedIn profile in our show notes or on martechpod.com a special thanks
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Benjamin Shapiro
You can always visit his website, which is getknown4.com and if you haven't subscribed yet and you want a daily stream of marketing and technology knowledge in your podcast feed, hit the subscribe button in your podcast app or on YouTube and we'll be back in your feed next week. All right, that's it for today, but until next time, my advice is to just focus on keeping your customers happy. Foreign
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MarTech Podcast – "Biggest lesson learned scaling Thrillist" (May 27, 2026)
Host: Benjamin Shapiro
Guest: Adam Rich (CEO of Known for, founder of Thrillist)
This episode dives into the key lessons Adam Rich learned as he scaled the media brand Thrillist to 300 million monthly users. Through candid discussion, Rich emphasizes the primacy of consistency and quality over chasing fleeting trends or solely focusing on brand buzz. The conversation explores how operational rigor, sustained execution, and tapping into cultural moments built Thrillist’s enduring brand equity in the digital content space.
Consistency and Quality as Growth Drivers
“That thing of showing up every day with something good, something we could recommend, was really, really hard… But it was what allowed us to grow and to earn the trust of as many people as we did.” (Adam Rich, 03:00)
Operationalizing Content Creation
Reinforcing Brand Associations
“It’s only if you reinforce [your brand] 100 times in a row with zero variation or confusion that your average kind of distracted, overwhelmed consumer starts to have an association with it, much less any kind of real trust or affinity.” (Adam Rich, 05:23)
Trust Built ‘Brick by Brick’
“…It really felt like it was aligned with the Zeitgeist around then of… all kinds of cities really kind of exploring their, like, culinary traditions and, you know, the craft beer thing happening and barbecue exploding…” (Adam Rich, 04:17)
“I left in 2018, and I assume it became bad right after that.” (Adam Rich, 04:04) (jokingly)
The Heart of Media Brand-Building:
“You could count on us, and we're going to show up with quality and we are going to, you know, have some relevance and some timeliness. So that when you get that email, there’s a reason why I'm getting it today.” (Adam Rich, 03:35)
On the Power of Consistent Branding:
“You can have your brand want to represent all kinds of things, but it’s only if you reinforce it 100 times in a row with zero variation or confusion… that your average kind of distracted, overwhelmed consumer starts to have an association with it…” (Adam Rich, 05:23)
Embracing Operational Discipline:
“Operationalizing a team around doing that in 21 different cities was the undertaking of my career.” (Adam Rich, 03:20)
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Listen to the full episode on MarTech Podcast for more career stories and actionable growth insights.