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David Edelman
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David Edelman
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Benjamin Shapiro
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Welcome to the Martech Podcast. I'm your host Benjamin Shapiro and today we're going to discuss customer strategy in the AI era. Joining me is David Edelman, who is a Senior lecturer at Harvard Business School and the Executive Advisor to Edelman Advisory Services. He is also the author of the Personalized Customer Experience in the Age of AI and today David and I are going to talk about the history of personalization. Let's move on to our next lightning round question, which is game plan. What are you going to do? What's your game plan for mobilizing the C suite to embrace personalization across your entire organization?
David Edelman
One of the most important things in mobilizing is recognizing in your company where there have been compromises that you've made customers accept. So are there things that you can do to make it easier? Is it too hard to place an order because it's too complicated? Is your product too hard for people to understand? And one of the best ways to embrace personalization is to start with a rallying cry that puts the customer first, that is going to break the compromises that everyone knows are real in the way you do business. And that gets employees rallied around that. Because doing personalization is usually it's a team sport. It takes a village. It's not just marketing. So you need a rallying objective of changing the way customers are going to interact with you, their perception of the brand, how you're going to create new value and differentiate yourself. That's where things start. Then all these other things start flowing in terms of getting a lot more prioritization of how are we collecting, using and activating data. How are we collaborating across different functions to make all that data a corporate asset instead of a functional asset? But the start of the game plan has to be around how are we going to change that customer experience?
Benjamin Shapiro
I had a cup of coffee as an independent marketing consultant. You've got a consulting background as well. And I think we probably can both agree that every brand says that they are or at least want to be customer centric and very few actually think about the customer as the center of what they do. They think about the business outcomes and how to achieve them through the customer, not think about the customer and how to make them content and delighted to try to drive the business outcomes. I think personalization is a great way to cut through that all right, that wraps up this episode of the Martech Podcast. Thanks for listening to my conversation with David Edelman, the executive advisor and Senior lecturer at Harvard Business School. If you'd like to get in touch with David, you could find a link to his LinkedIn profile in our show notes. Or you can visit his company's website, which is edelmanadvisoryservices.com you can also find his book at personalized. If you'd like a summary of this podcast, or if you'd like to be our next guest speaker on the Martech podcast, head over to martechpod.com you can also find us on YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, or even on TikTok now. And if you'd like to contact me, let's connect over on LinkedIn. My handle is Benjschapp. B E N J S H A P and if you haven't subscribed yet and you want a daily stream of marketing and technology knowledge in your podcast feed, hit the subscribe button in your podcast app and we'll be back in your feed tomorrow morning. All right, that's it for today, but until next time, my advice is to just focus on keeping your customers happy.
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Episode Title: Mobilizing The C-Suite To Embrace Personalization Across The Entire Organization
Release Date: January 9, 2025
Host: Benjamin Shapiro
Guest: David Edelman, Senior Lecturer at Harvard Business School, Executive Advisor to Edelman Advisory Services, and author of Personalized Customer Experience in the Age of AI
In this episode of the MarTech Podcast™, hosted by Benjamin Shapiro, the discussion centers around the crucial role of personalization in modern marketing strategies. Benjamin is joined by David Edelman, a renowned expert in customer experience and personalization, to explore how organizations can effectively mobilize their C-suite executives to champion personalization initiatives across all departments.
David Edelman emphasizes the importance of securing executive buy-in to drive personalization efforts. He outlines a strategic approach to engaging the C-suite:
Identifying Compromises:
David suggests that companies must first recognize areas where they have made compromises that customers have accepted. This could involve simplifying the ordering process or making products more user-friendly.
"One of the most important things in mobilizing is recognizing in your company where there have been compromises that you've made customers accept." [01:55]
Rallying Cry for Customer-Centricity:
He advocates for initiating a rallying cry that prioritizes the customer above all else. This objective serves as a unifying goal that encourages collaboration across various departments, highlighting that personalization is not solely the responsibility of the marketing team but a collective endeavor.
"Doing personalization is usually a team sport. It takes a village. It's not just marketing." [02:15]
Changing Customer Experience:
The starting point for a successful personalization strategy is transforming the customer experience. By altering how customers interact with the brand and enhancing their perception, organizations can create new value propositions that differentiate them from competitors.
"The start of the game plan has to be around how are we going to change that customer experience?" [02:45]
David elaborates on the subsequent steps following the establishment of a customer-centric rallying cry:
Data Prioritization and Activation:
Organizations must prioritize the collection, utilization, and activation of customer data. This involves treating data as a corporate asset rather than confining it to individual functions, ensuring that insights are accessible and actionable across the entire organization.
Cross-Functional Collaboration:
Effective personalization requires seamless collaboration among different departments. By breaking down silos, companies can leverage diverse expertise to enhance the personalization efforts, making data-driven decisions that align with the overarching customer-centric goals.
"How are we collaborating across different functions to make all that data a corporate asset instead of a functional asset?" [03:10]
The conversation shifts to common obstacles organizations face when implementing personalization strategies:
Balancing Business Outcomes with Customer Satisfaction:
Benjamin Shapiro points out a prevalent issue where brands claim to be customer-centric but primarily focus on achieving business outcomes through customer interactions. David concurs, highlighting the need to shift the focus towards genuinely delighting customers to drive sustainable business growth.
"Every brand says that they are or at least want to be customer centric and very few actually think about the customer as the center of what they do." [03:24]
Sustaining Customer Delight:
To truly embody customer centricity, companies must prioritize making customers content and delighted. This involves going beyond mere business metrics to ensure that every customer interaction reinforces a positive and personalized experience.
Benjamin wraps up the episode by reflecting on the insights shared by David Edelman. He underscores the necessity of genuine customer focus in personalization efforts and encourages listeners to implement the discussed strategies to foster organizational alignment around customer-centric goals.
"Personalization is a great way to cut through that." [04:50]
For those interested in connecting with David Edelman or exploring his work further, links to his LinkedIn profile and his company's website, edelmanadvisoryservices.com, are available in the show notes. Additionally, David's book, Personalized Customer Experience in the Age of AI, offers an in-depth look into the topics discussed.
Key Takeaways:
Executive Buy-In is Crucial:
Securing support from the C-suite is essential for driving successful personalization initiatives across the organization.
Customer-Centric Rallying Cry:
Establishing a unifying objective that prioritizes the customer helps align various departments towards common personalization goals.
Data as a Corporate Asset:
Treating customer data as a shared resource facilitates better decision-making and enhances personalization efforts.
Cross-Functional Collaboration:
Breaking down departmental silos ensures that personalization is a collective effort, leveraging diverse expertise.
Genuine Customer Delight Drives Growth:
Focusing on truly delighting customers fosters loyalty and sustainable business success, beyond just achieving immediate business outcomes.
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