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Benjamin Shapiro
From advertising to software as a service to data across all of our programs and clients, we've seen a 55 to 65% open rate. Getting brands authentically integrated into content performs better than TV advertising.
Adam Rich
Typical lifespan of an article is about 24 to 36 hours. We're reaching out to the right person with the right message and a clear call to action.
Benjamin Shapiro
Then it's just a matter of timing.
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Adam Rich
I'm Benjamin Shapiro and today I'm joined by Adam Rich, the CEO of Known for, which turns professional expertise into consistent executive content using an Expert in the Loop editorial system. Adam was also the founder of Thrillist, which he scaled to 300 million monthly users before its acquisition by Vox Media. And today Adam is going to explain why LinkedIn authority in B2B marketing is shifting from brands more to people.
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Adam Rich
What's one LinkedIn best practice that is actually a waste of time?
Benjamin Shapiro
Well, I mean, this is gonna kind of get back to the consistency conversation we were just having, but I think that feeling like you've got to publish at some schedule that is misaligned with your brand or your pace of insights is a really quick way to waste a lot of time and probably turn people off of you and your message. You'd love to have something great to say every day, but if that's just not the frequency with which you're finding you've got stuff that's really must read, you're better off publishing less and having it be better.
Adam Rich
I think there's a big difference between what I'll call the consumer social networks and the professional social networks. And often, at least I have this desire I can, like, be inspired by something mostly on Instagram. The only thing I ever post anymore is pictures of the grapevines that I grow in my backyard because we make a whopping five bottles of wine a year. That's pretty good. Thank you. Just getting through the process is the fun part. The volume doesn't matter. But I will take a picture and write a quick thumbnail and be like, all right, this is an inspirational. The moment has hit me. I'm just going to post some content and it's a snapshot and I want LinkedIn to be like that. I am inspired by this beautiful thing I'm working on. Let me just quickly throw it out there on the web and people will shine the light on it and see my brilliance. It doesn't effing work that way.
Benjamin Shapiro
Are you concerned that you're maybe not doing enough beautiful stuff?
Adam Rich
No, I got plenty of stuff going on. That's not the problem. It takes work. It takes effort to craft the message and to write something that is considerate and thoughtful and useful for the audience, as opposed to. Here's a screenshot of this new deck standard that I have right here. Everything. I might love it. No one else cares.
Benjamin Shapiro
Yeah, look, I mean, that's a little bit of. Some of. That is the. Is the medium, right? Like the. The taking a photograph of something that's going to mean something in a moment to the people that follow you on Instagram is a much more natural way of conveying your thoughts and sharing.
Adam Rich
All right, Adam, great to have you on the podcast. Thanks for coming on and being my guest. And that wraps up this episode of the Martech podcast. Thanks to Adam Rich, the CEO of Known4, for joining us.
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Adam Rich
If you'd like to get in touch with Adam, you could find a link to his LinkedIn profile in our show notes or on martechpod.com you can always visit his website, which is getknown4.com and if you haven't subscribed yet and you want a daily stream of marketing and technology knowledge in your podcast feed, hit the subscribe button in your podcast app or on YouTube and we'll be back in your feed next week. All right, that's it for today, but until next time, my advice is to just focus on keeping your customers happy.
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Host: Benjamin Shapiro
Guest: Adam Rich (CEO, Known4; Founder of Thrillist)
Date: May 29, 2026
This episode explores the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of a widely-held LinkedIn “best practice” in B2B marketing. Guest Adam Rich joins host Benjamin Shapiro to dissect the belief that consistency — specifically, posting on a strict schedule — is the recipe for thought leadership success on LinkedIn. Together, they discuss how and why LinkedIn authority is shifting from brands to people, and emphasize the importance of substance over frequency in content creation.
“You'd love to have something great to say every day, but if that's just not the frequency with which you're finding you've got stuff that's really must read, you're better off publishing less and having it be better.”
(02:57–03:16)
“I want LinkedIn to be like that. I am inspired by this beautiful thing I’m working on, let me just quickly throw it out there [...] It doesn’t effing work that way.”
(03:49–04:31)
On Content Frequency:
“Feeling like you’ve got to publish at some schedule that is misaligned with your brand or your pace of insights is a really quick way to waste a lot of time and probably turn people off of you and your message.”
— Benjamin Shapiro (02:57–03:16)
On the Difference Between Platforms:
“I want LinkedIn to be like that. I am inspired by this beautiful thing I’m working on, let me just quickly throw it out there [...] It doesn’t effing work that way.”
— Adam Rich (03:49–04:31)
On Craft and Value:
“It takes work. It takes effort to craft the message and to write something that is considerate and thoughtful and useful for the audience, as opposed to... Here’s a screenshot of this new deck standard that I have right here. Everything. I might love it. No one else cares.”
— Adam Rich (04:35–04:51)
The conversation is candid, direct, and tinged with humor as both speakers share their personal routines and frustrations with common LinkedIn advice. The episode delivers tough love to marketers, discouraging “me-too” posting habits and encouraging careful, audience-first communication.
This episode debunks the myth that LinkedIn rewards relentless posting. Instead, Adam Rich and Benjamin Shapiro advocate for mindful, meaningful engagement aligned with personal expertise and audience needs—urging marketers to focus on substance and authentic value in every post.