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Episode: The most creative piece of direct mail
Host: Benjamin Shapiro
Guest: Ryan Ferrier, CEO of Lob
Date: January 20, 2026

Episode Overview

This quickfire episode focuses on creative direct mail marketing within the Martech landscape. Host Benjamin Shapiro engages guest Ryan Ferrier—the CEO of direct mail automation platform Lob—in a lightning round to uncover the most inventive direct mail campaign he has worked on. The conversation offers insight into how creativity can drive brand awareness and memorable audience engagement through direct mail.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lightning Round: Direct Mail Creativity

• Benjamin Shapiro opens with a brief explanation, setting up a rapid-fire Q&A on memorable direct mail campaigns Ryan Ferrier has executed.
• The central question: "What is the single most creative piece of direct mail you helped send?" (00:54)

2. The Origami French Fries Box Campaign

• Ryan Ferrier describes a standout campaign for a fast-food brand featuring origami-style paper mailers.
  • The mailer transformed into a box of fries, blending interactivity and creativity.
  • Quote (Ryan Ferrier, 01:05):
    "There was an offer... it was from a brand, a fast food brand. The paper was sent and it was like an origami style paper and it could turn into a box of fries or something like that."
  • Benjamin responds, highlighting the project’s artistic aspect.
  • Quote (Benjamin Shapiro, 01:15):
    "Nice. Okay, so it sounds like the collateral was actually an art project. Any sense of whether that worked? Did anybody get the box together?"

3. Outcome & Brand Impact

• Ryan notes it was primarily a "brand awareness wow factor" rather than direct lead generation.
  • No specific data was provided on assembly rates or engagement, reinforcing its role as a memorable touchpoint more than a conversion tool.
  • Quote (Ryan Ferrier, 01:20):
    "Yeah, I think it was more of like a brand awareness wow factor. You know, I don't have photos of folks who assembled it."
  • Benjamin humorously asks if anyone tried to eat the paper box.
  • Quote (Benjamin Shapiro, 01:28):
    "Did anybody try to eat it?"
    Ryan Ferrier responds: "Not that I know of." (01:30)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Origami Fries Box Concept (Ryan Ferrier, 01:05):
  "The paper was sent and it was like an origami style paper and it could turn into a box of fries or something like that."
• The Artistic Approach (Benjamin Shapiro, 01:15):
  "It sounds like the collateral was actually an art project. Any sense of whether that worked? Did anybody get the box together?"
• Brand Awareness Focus (Ryan Ferrier, 01:20):
  "I think it was more of like a brand awareness wow factor."

Important Segments & Timestamps

• 00:54 — Start of lightning round with direct mail focus
• 01:05 — Ryan shares the origami direct mail campaign concept
• 01:20 — Discussion of objectives and real-world impact
• 01:28 — Light-hearted exchange about the box being edible

Episode Takeaways

• Direct mail remains a powerful tool for brand awareness when executed creatively.
• Interactivity and unexpected formats (like origami) can generate a strong 'wow factor' and help brands stand out, even if the primary metric is not direct conversion.
• The true impact of creative direct mail lies in its memorability and ability to generate conversation around the brand.

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