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Welcome to the Martech Podcast. I'm your host Benjamin Shapiro and today we're going to discuss Everything Led growth. Joining me is Rob Freeman, who is the VP of Marketing at Easy O, which is a provider of innovative asset intelligent and management solutions that are trusted by thousands of organizations worldwide. Their credibility is backed by a vast global clientele and a proven track record in multiple industries. And today Rob and I are going to talk about is product sales or marketing led growth right for you? All right, here's my conversation with an old friend, Rob Friedman, the VP of Marketing at Easy O Lightning Round. Let's go on to our second topic here. Trend or trash? Is the move to zero party data a trend worth pursuing in marketing or is it trash?
Rob Friedman
That's a tough one. I'm going to say it's a trend and it's something worth pursuing because if you own your own data, you own the information and no one can take it. People have given it to you freely. You don't have to worry about privacy. There's a lot of regulations and trying to understand like what jurisdiction you're selling into and keeping up with all the laws. It's just so much easier if you just have it as zero party data.
Benjamin Shapiro
I'm going to press you on this one, please. That means that you're a believer in content led marketing, not advertising led marketing. Because the way to collect your zero party data is about your newsletter, your podcast, YouTube, whatever else you're going to do. All the different types of marketing where you're going to go and build your own audience so you have your own data as opposed to relying on advertising to attract your customers. Am I reading into this right?
Rob Friedman
Yeah, absolutely. Most companies, their marketing departments need to be media departments.
Benjamin Shapiro
Every brand is a media brand. Well, geez, isn't that just a great idea? Who would have ever thought of that? All right, and that wraps up this episode of the Martech Podcast. Thanks again to Rob Friedman, the VP of marketing at ezo, for joining us. If you'd like to contact Rob, you can find a link to his LinkedIn profile in our show notes. You can send him a message on X. His handle is Rob Friedman. That's R O B F R E E D M A N. Or you can visit his company's website, which if you'd like a summary of this podcast, or if you'd like to apply to be our next guest speaker, head over to martechpod.com you can also find the MarTech podcast on YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, or even on TikTok now. And if you'd like to contact me, let's connect over on LinkedIn. My handle is Benjschaft B E N J S H A P. If you haven't subscribed yet and you want a daily stream of marketing and technology knowledge in your podcast feed, hit the subscribe button in your podcast app and we'll be back in your feed tomorrow morning. All right, that's it for today, but until next time, my advice is to just focus on keeping your customers happy.
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Episode: Trend or Trash: Is A Focus On Zero-Party Data Worth Pursuing?
Release Date: January 15, 2025
Host: Benjamin Shapiro
Guest: Rob Friedman, VP of Marketing at Easy O
In this episode of the MarTech Podcast ™, host Benjamin Shapiro delves into the evolving landscape of data-driven marketing with Rob Friedman, Vice President of Marketing at Easy O. The discussion centers around the concept of zero-party data, its viability as a marketing strategy, and its implications for future business growth.
00:25 – Opening Insights
Rob Friedman initiates the conversation by highlighting the effectiveness of zero-party data:
“If you own your own data, you own the information and no one can take it. People have given it to you freely. You don't have to worry about privacy.”
— Rob Friedman [00:25]
He emphasizes the advantage of having direct ownership of customer data, which mitigates concerns related to privacy regulations and data breaches. Friedman notes that managing zero-party data simplifies compliance across various jurisdictions:
“There's a lot of regulations and trying to understand like what jurisdiction you're selling into and keeping up with all the laws. It's just so much easier if you just have it as zero party data.”
— Rob Friedman [02:06]
Benjamin Shapiro probes deeper into the implications of relying on zero-party data versus traditional advertising-led methods:
“That means that you're a believer in content led marketing, not advertising led marketing. Because the way to collect your zero party data is about your newsletter, your podcast, YouTube, whatever else you're going to do.”
— Benjamin Shapiro [02:33]
Rob agrees, reinforcing the shift towards content-driven strategies:
“Most companies, their marketing departments need to be media departments.”
— Rob Friedman [03:01]
This perspective underscores the transition from traditional advertising to developing proprietary media channels, such as newsletters, podcasts, and social media content, to organically build and engage an audience.
Friedman advocates for the transformation of marketing departments into media-centric entities. By producing valuable content, brands can cultivate trust and loyalty, thereby generating zero-party data inherently through audience interactions and engagements.
“Every brand is a media brand.”
— Rob Friedman [03:05]
This philosophy suggests that brands should prioritize creating and distributing meaningful content to foster direct relationships with their audience, rather than relying solely on external advertising platforms.
The episode concludes with a consensus that zero-party data represents a significant and worthwhile trend in the marketing domain. By leveraging content-led strategies, companies can ensure data ownership, enhance customer trust, and navigate the complexities of data privacy regulations more effectively.
Benjamin Shapiro wraps up the discussion by reiterating the importance of transitioning to media-focused marketing efforts to harness the full potential of zero-party data.
“If you'd like to contact Rob, you can find a link to his LinkedIn profile in our show notes... until next time, my advice is to just focus on keeping your customers happy.”
— Benjamin Shapiro [03:05 onwards]
This episode of the MarTech Podcast ™ provides valuable insights into the strategic advantages of zero-party data and the necessity of embracing content-led marketing approaches. Rob Friedman’s expertise highlights the practical benefits of data ownership and the evolving role of marketing departments in the modern business landscape.
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