MarTech Podcast ™ – "Unique Challenges in Building a Martech Company in 2026"
Episode Overview
This episode, hosted by Benjamin Shapiro and featuring Scott Brinker ("the godfather of the Martech industry"), explores the rapidly evolving Martech landscape in 2026. The conversation focuses on the unique challenges and emerging opportunities in building Martech companies amid the explosion of AI, personalization, and orchestration. Scott offers candid insights into the shrinking competitive space, the era of self-made software, and why orchestration and guardrails are now the critical frontiers for innovation.
Main Themes
- The evolution and current state of Martech companies in 2026
- The impact of AI on software development, competition, and category consolidation
- The rise of "personal software" and its implications for Martech providers
- New opportunities in orchestration and governance
- The accelerating pace of technological adoption—what used to be table stakes is now instantly available to all
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Martech Market Contraction and AI-Driven Customization (01:15–03:57)
- Notable churn: Over 8% of Martech companies disappeared in the past year.
- Scott Brinker highlights the new dynamic: It's no longer just about building a "better mousetrap" to compete with incumbents.
- Quote:
“AI has made it so easy for people to build software... professional software developers leveraging these coding assistants... 10x their productivity... even amateurs... using it for small little apps and automations.”
—Scott Brinker (01:49)
- Quote:
- Key Shift: Businesses can now, with relative ease, create their own customized software tailored to their unique needs—posing a challenge to commercial Martech products.
- Competitive landscape now includes both other commercial vendors and the prospect's ability to "build it better themselves".
2. The Era of Personal Software (03:57–04:56)
- Host's Perspective: We've entered a phase where anyone, not just engineers, can develop custom solutions for specific business problems.
- Example: Host's creation of a custom podcast production process via "vibe coding".
- Quote:
“It used to be these off-the-shelf platforms, then you had point solutions, and now we have personalization.”
—Podcast Host (03:57)
- Scott's Response: Personal software builders already exist in abundance, and tech giants like Google are doubling down. He cautions against entering that saturated space.
3. The Critical Role of Orchestration & Guardrails (04:56–08:01)
- Scott identifies orchestration as the ‘big gap’ in the market:
- As more individuals build custom automations and agents, overall complexity within organizations skyrockets.
- Quote:
“When you have a company of 300 individuals all doing that, okay, now this starts to become a bug, not a feature... We need software that is going to serve as the guardrails, as the orchestration engines.”
—Scott Brinker (05:45)
- Opportunity: Develop tools that provide structure and enforce rules for this proliferation of self-built solutions within enterprises.
4. The New Risk Landscape – Instability and Compliance (06:56–08:03)
- Creative and branding teams already utilize guardrails (e.g., content compliance tools), but software engineering now faces similar issues as “everyone is an engineer” with AI.
- Quote:
“Team of 300 people where 50 to 100 of them were engineers, now 300 of them are engineers. Some are in the engineering function, but marketers are building their own software.”
—Podcast Host (07:20)
- Quote:
- Scott’s View: Rule-based orchestration and governance is where Martech can add value and mitigate these risks.
5. Threatened Verticals in Martech (08:03–09:20)
- Scott notes that certain Martech categories are being subsumed by AI assistants:
- Writing assistance, competitive intelligence, prospecting—all are now natively available from LLMs (like ChatGPT, Gemini).
- Tools that offered 80% value for 80% of the effort are being replaced as LLMs make that value instantly accessible.
- Quote:
“For a lot of people... 80% of the value for 20% of the work, so much of that can just be done by these LLMs natively that, yeah, it's a real threat to a lot of those categories.”
—Scott Brinker (08:55)
6. The "New Treadmill": Everything Becomes Table Stakes, Fast (10:03–12:06)
- New technologies offer temporary advantage but quickly become ubiquitous.
- Host’s Example: Demand generation, list-building, and market research that once required many tools and significant effort, now completed with a few prompts.
- Scott’s Take:
“Early adopters... harness this to get a competitive advantage.... Then it crosses the chasm.... [Now] it feels like the tempo... is just accelerating.”
—Scott Brinker (10:42) - Martech professionals are now forced to run at "private jet" speed just to keep up.
- Joke:
“This is the new private jet of treadmills.”
—Podcast Host (12:03)
- Joke:
Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments
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On AI-fueled productivity:
“The way they're leveraging these AI assistants to like 10x their productivity, it's pretty impressive.”
—Scott Brinker (01:56) -
On the orchestration challenge:
“We need software that is going to serve as the guardrails, as the orchestration engines... and right now we don't have great systems that really provide that...”
—Scott Brinker (05:45) -
On the shrinking window for competitive advantage:
“You can come up with some things that give you an edge today, but... most of your competitors might be in a position to have that same capability... 12 months from now.”
—Scott Brinker (11:14)
Important Timestamps
- 01:15 — Market context, SaaS churn, the shift to AI and custom-built solutions
- 03:57 — The rise of ‘personal software’ and user-built automations
- 04:56 — The orchestration gap: risk and instability in the era of everyone as a developer
- 08:03 — Martech verticals at risk due to AI assistants absorbing their value propositions
- 10:03 — How AI is streamlining formerly complex GTM processes and what that means for competitive differentiation
- 11:14 — Shrinking competitive moats and the relentless, “rocket ship” pace of Martech innovation
Conclusion
The Martech ecosystem in 2026 is characterized by explosive technological empowerment and an equally intense risk of fragmentation and instability. Companies face both new opportunities (orchestration, governance) and existential threats (AI subsuming whole categories). The only certainty is that the pace of change is accelerating—what is innovative today quickly becomes tomorrow’s prerequisite.
For anyone building a Martech company now, orchestration and establishing “guardrails” for AI and custom-built solutions are the clearest growth opportunities. Meanwhile, any feature easily absorbed by a general-purpose AI will struggle to remain a standalone category.
Guest Contact:
Find Scott Brinker on LinkedIn, or visit chiefmartec.com for more of his industry analysis.
