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Welcome to the Martech Podcast. I'm your host, Benjamin Shapiro and today we're going to discuss customer strategy in the AI era. Joining me is David Edelman, who is a Senior lecturer at Harvard Business School and the Executive Advisor to Edelman Advisory Services. He is also the author of the Personalized Customer Experience in the Age of AI. And today David and I are going to talk about the history of personalization. I want to move on to our last lightning round question, which is called crystal ball. So I want you to look into your crystal ball and right now marketers are spending an insane amount of time working on building AI experiences. What does your crystal ball say or show you about what point AI will be rich enough to start customizing the experiences without relying so much on the marketer interactions.
David Edelman
I always think market people are going to need to be in the loop because you do want to make sure that what's actually happening makes sense for your brand. There's a lot of risks and I think there will be a lot of risk going forward. I also think there has to be innovation and I do believe that marketers will always have a seat at the table to understand customers and bring new kinds of innovations and experiences to the table. So I don't think the goal should be to get marketers out of the loop. I think the goal should be to expand the range of areas where you can provide value and the whole palette of experience you can deliver. So where I actually think AI is going is enabling marketers, well, brands, companies, to actually provide even broader personalized solutions. So one of the things we don't talk enough about AI is AI can write code. We talk a lot about content. We don't talk as much about code. So I can write the code, for example, to combine different streams of data in an integrated way. So there's a product called Narrative that a number of companies, Pepsi Nielsen, the trade desk, use this. It looks at one data set, understands its schema, looks at the second data set, understands that schema, writes the code to integrate those, normalize them, and clean up aberrations in the data. If AI can start doing that, it makes it easier not only for a company to bring its data together, but it can work with other companies to exchange data and bring it together and use AI to manage privacy. Who has the rights to see what data? Having an audit trail. So we're starting to see companies like Marriott, Home Depot using AI as the seedbed now for ecosystems of providers working together to solve a personal desire. So I want to renovate my bathroom. I should be able to take a picture of my bathroom. Through that picture, Home Depot can understand the dimensions. It can see where the pipes are, where right now the sink, toilet, shower, all of that are. I can tell them what my budget is. I can maybe upload pictures from Pinterest about different styles. And Home Depot can come back to me and say, here's five different options, here's the cost, here's how we can coordinate getting that implemented. They are working on that. This is happening. Companies are starting to see themselves as destinations for personal solutions, and these ecosystems are going to be important strategic issues. Are you the center of one? Are you participating in one? Are you going to be locked out? So there's strategy implications here for where this is starting to go.
Benjamin Shapiro
David, we're in a brand new era of personalization, and I think it's front and center for what all marketers are thinking about. We've got these new tools to try to navigate the river of data that we've been floating on and try not to sink. And they are incredibly powerful. We are all sorting out the right way to take in data, make sure that we're analyzing it correctly, and make the best use of it to provide better customer experiences. I appreciate you coming on the show and giving a little bit of a point of direction for which way us marketers should think about using artificial intelligence in this new era of personalization. Thank you for coming on and being my guest.
David Edelman
Sure. My pleasure, Ben.
Benjamin Shapiro
All right, and that wraps up this episode of the MarTech podcast. Thanks for listening to my conversation with David Edelman. The executive advisor and Senior Lecturer at Harvard Business School. If you'd like to get in touch with David, you could find a link to his LinkedIn profile in our show Notes. Or you can visit his company's website, which is edelmanadvisoryservices.com you can also find his book at personalizedthebook.com. if you'd like a summary of this podcast, or if you'd like to be our next guest speaker on the Martech podcast, head over to martechpod.com you can also find us on YouTube, Twitter, Instagram. We're even on TikTok now. And if you'd like to contact me, let's connect over on LinkedIn. My handle is Benjschapp. B E N J S H A P and if you haven't subscribed yet and you want a daily stream of marketing and technology knowledge in your podcast feed, hit the subscribe button in your podcast app and we'll be back in your feed tomorrow morning. All right, that's it for today, but until next time, my advice is to just focus on keeping your customers happy.
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Title: When Will AI Be Rich Enough To Start Customizing The Experiences Without Relying On Us Marketers?
Release Date: January 10, 2025
Host: Benjamin Shapiro
Guest: David Edelman, Senior Lecturer at Harvard Business School and Executive Advisor to Edelman Advisory Services
Podcast: MarTech Podcast ™ // Marketing + Technology = Business Growth
In this insightful episode of the MarTech Podcast™, host Benjamin Shapiro engages in a compelling conversation with David Edelman, a renowned expert in personalized customer experiences and artificial intelligence (AI). The discussion centers around the evolving role of AI in marketing, particularly its capability to autonomously customize customer experiences without extensive human intervention.
Benjamin Shapiro opens the dialogue by addressing the burgeoning importance of personalization in today's marketing strategies. He highlights the deluge of data that marketers navigate and the imperative to harness AI tools effectively to enhance customer experiences without becoming overwhelmed.
Key Quote:
“We're all sorting out the right way to take in data, make sure that we're analyzing it correctly, and make the best use of it to provide better customer experiences.” — Benjamin Shapiro [05:06]
David Edelman delves into the historical context of personalization, emphasizing that while AI has significantly advanced the ability to tailor customer experiences, human marketers remain indispensable. He argues that AI should complement rather than replace human insight, ensuring that brand integrity and customer understanding are maintained.
Key Insights:
Marketers' Essential Role: Edelman asserts that marketers need to stay involved to ensure AI-driven initiatives align with brand values and customer expectations. “I always think market people are going to need to be in the loop because you do want to make sure that what's actually happening makes sense for your brand.” — David Edelman [02:05]
Innovation and Risk Management: He highlights the risks associated with autonomous AI systems, advocating for continuous human oversight to navigate potential pitfalls and foster innovation. “There are a lot of risks and I think there will be a lot of risk going forward.” — David Edelman [02:05]
Edelman sheds light on the less-discussed aspects of AI, particularly its ability to write and manage code. This capability enables AI to integrate disparate data sources, normalize information, and maintain data privacy, thereby enhancing the efficiency and scope of personalized marketing strategies.
Key Quote:
“AI can write the code... to combine different streams of data in an integrated way.” — David Edelman [02:05]
Examples Highlighted:
Data Integration Tools: Edelman mentions platforms like Narrative, utilized by companies such as Pepsi and Home Depot, which leverage AI to harmonize various data sets effectively.
Personalized Solutions Ecosystem: He describes how companies are evolving into hubs for personal solutions, using AI to deliver comprehensive services. For instance, Home Depot's AI-driven system can assess a customer's bathroom renovation needs through submitted photos, budget specifications, and style preferences to provide tailored renovation options.
Key Quote:
“Companies are starting to see themselves as destinations for personal solutions, and these ecosystems are going to be important strategic issues.” — David Edelman [02:05]
When prompted with a "crystal ball" question, Edelman shares his perspective on the future interplay between AI and marketers. He envisions a collaborative future where AI expands the capabilities of marketers, enabling them to deliver more personalized and innovative experiences without fully autonomous operations.
Key Quote:
“I don't think the goal should be to get marketers out of the loop. I think the goal should be to expand the range of areas where you can provide value.” — David Edelman [02:05]
Edelman emphasizes the strategic decisions that companies must make regarding their participation in AI-driven ecosystems. He warns of the potential consequences of being left out of these transformative networks, urging marketers to proactively engage with AI advancements to stay competitive.
Key Quote:
“Are you the center of one? Are you participating in one? Are you going to be locked out?” — David Edelman [02:05]
Benjamin Shapiro wraps up the episode by acknowledging the pivotal role of AI in shaping the future of personalized marketing. He underscores the necessity for marketers to embrace AI's capabilities while maintaining strategic oversight to ensure authentic and effective customer experiences.
Closing Quote:
“Focus on keeping your customers happy.” — Benjamin Shapiro [07:11]
This episode of the MarTech Podcast™ offers a nuanced exploration of AI's evolving role in marketing personalization. David Edelman's expertise provides valuable insights into balancing AI automation with human creativity and strategic oversight. Marketers are encouraged to leverage AI not just as a tool for efficiency but as a partner in delivering deeply personalized and meaningful customer experiences. The conversation underscores the importance of staying engaged with technological advancements to drive sustained business growth and customer satisfaction.
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