Ep 580 - Skrilla (The 67 God)

Summary

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Episode 580 – Skrilla (The 67 God)

Release Date: October 11, 2025
Hosts: Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis
Guest: Skrilla

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Episode Overview

In this high-energy episode, Matt and Shane welcome Skrilla—the rapper behind the viral "Six Seven" (67) anthem—for a candid, hilarious, and genuinely revealing conversation. The trio swaps stories about touring, life in Kensington, viral trends, pet alligators, brushes with the law, and Skrilla’s plans for the future. The episode is packed with quick-witted banter, wild anecdotes, and thoughtful moments about music, fame, and family.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Meeting Skrilla: Kensington, Comedians, and Going Viral

• [00:35] Matt talks about how he discovered Skrilla through Kensington street camera videos while on tour with comedian Bert Kreischer. Big Jay Oakerson introduced everyone to the wild scenes.
• Skrilla sets the record straight on his Kensington roots (“I grew up in Kensington… in the heart, the middle of it" [01:11]).
• Discussion of Kensington’s reputation, street dynamics, and the real-life community versus internet perceptions.

2. Wild Show Stories: Clowns, Trash Cans, and Broken Bones

• [01:44 - 05:15] Skrilla recounts an insane Orlando show—how a Philly friend, painted as a clown, jumped off the stage, hit his head, fractured his skull, and literally ran away from the hospital.
  • "He just ran out of the hospital. Out the hospital because they wouldn't give me no pain meds." ([05:18] Skrilla's friend, live on the phone)
• The group calls Skrilla’s friend live to hear about his recovery and running away from medical care.
• Matt and Shane are both horrified and amazed: “This guy rules.” ([03:18] Matt)

3. The Birth and Spread of “67”

• [05:46, 07:12-07:32] Matt credits Skrilla as the originator of the "67" trend now seen at every sporting event. Skrilla notes, “I never expected... that song, crazy. Kim Kardashian even doing it.”
• Upcoming collabs: Skrilla teases a remix with Natasha Bedingfield ([07:37]).

4. Skrilla’s Pet Alligator: “Train”

• [08:02 - 14:48] Skrilla tells the story of owning and caring for an alligator in Kensington (named “Train”). He bought it from “a fiend walking around with an alligator”—for $50 ([08:29-09:14]).

  "It's crazy because I bought it in Kensington. It was a fiend walking... Had some alligators... walking around... I'm like, 'Yo, what you want for it? I'll buy it off you right now.'” ([08:29])

• Discusses the challenge—and terror—of keeping a loose alligator in his apartment before he got a tank: “I lost him the first day… I couldn't go to sleep for like two days straight.” ([13:21])
• Intends to one day give the gator a mansion moat: “That’s my whole plan, though. He grew up with me; he got it out the mud with me.” ([15:13])

5. Quitting Galaxy Gas (Nitrous), Influence and Learning

• [15:31 - 18:43] Skrilla reflects on quitting "Galaxy Gas" (nitrous):
  • “I just went in the smoke shop… It just went with my image... I didn’t even know what it was. I thought it was just nitrous.” ([15:38])
  • Admits he had minor side effects but was swayed by fans’ DMs warning him ([17:45]): “People inform me on Instagram… my memory was gone a little bit.”
  • Worries he might have influenced others negatively and now warns against it.

6. Music, Fame, and “Unk” Status

• [20:25 - 22:41] Skrilla has been making music for eight years; debates with Matt and Shane about when an artist becomes an “unk” (local legend/old head), concluding 30 is the threshold ([21:12]).
• On “Six Seven” going viral months after release: “It just needed some time to soak in… Now it’s everywhere, SportsCenter, games." ([22:41])

7. Tattoos and Halloween Plans

• Skrilla is getting his whole body tatted as a skeleton—aiming to attend shows in slide-ons and draws, just in time for Halloween ([23:07]).

8. Dream Collaborations

• Lists Natasha Bedingfield, Tierra Whack, Tyler the Creator, and Kanye as top choices ([24:06-25:08]).
  • “Kanye, he like the goat. Yeah, right. He’s like God.” ([25:09])

9. On Family, Home, and Favorite Cities

• [27:19 - 28:55] Skrilla reflects on family in Chicago and his love for both Chicago and Florida—can’t pick a favorite.
• Describes his family’s reaction to success: “It’s regular. They don’t really care too much... younger ones, they’re excited.” ([29:03])

10. School, Arrest Stories, and the Law

• [30:03 - 37:59] Skrilla was on house arrest through most of high school for selling drugs (“I got fucking ‘dope’ tatted on my face. It’s a dead giveaway.” [31:42]).
• [32:55 - 38:39] The dynamic with Philly cops: used to hate him, now many root for him ("now when they look at me, they tilt their hat to me.” [32:55]).
• Tells an outrageous tale about being arrested for shooting a cop with a $1 store water gun; ended up in a disgusting cell, charged with “aggravated assault on police” ([34:00 - 38:00]).

11. Religion, Upbringing, and Culture

• [43:50 - 45:51] Touches on Mexican heritage, practicing Santeria (“That’s like, my religion. Regular.” [44:00]), Catholic school experiences, and religious syncretism (“I feel like every religion is like…” [44:53]).

12. Philly vs. Everywhere Else

• Compares Philly with Texas, Delaware, Florida, Chicago—comes back to love for home, but pragmatic about safety for his kids ([47:41 - 48:21]).

13. Gaming, GTA, and In-Game Personas

• [50:56 - 52:09] All are gamers—Skrilla’s GTA character is a skeleton in a suit, like himself:

  “My PlayStation person is just like me. He got a skeleton face. He got a suit on right now…and he drive the same car I got.” ([51:20])

• Excited for GTA 6 and hopes to see “Six Seven” in the new game ([51:43]).

14. Recent Shows and Flexes

• Skrilla describes being brought onstage by NBA Youngboy, riding in a classic Lincoln dressed in style ([52:44 - 53:14]).
• Laughs about people not realizing “Six Seven” is his song.

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Memorable Quotes

• Skrilla on Kensington’s heart:

  “That’s like where all the cool people chill at. I’m from, like, the heart. Like, the middle of it, though. They ain’t got no cameras right there.” ([01:11])

• On outrageous concert moments:

  “He got his face painted as a clown... He tapped the trash can, he’s like, throw the trash can in my face while I’m on the stage performing. So I’m like, damn, should I do this shit? I just did it.” ([02:17])

• On buying an alligator:

  "I bought the alligator in Kensington. It was a fiend... I was shooting a video and I just happened to see somebody walking by with an alligator.” ([08:29])

• On getting clean from nitrous:

  "I just went in the smoke shop... went with my image... I didn’t even know what it was... I thought it was just nitrous." ([15:38])

• On his master plan:

  “I’m working on a master plan right now... finally got a hit song out... just now taking off six, seven months later.” ([22:03])

• On police and changing reputation:

  “…Now when they look at me, they tilt their hat to me… they’re happy for me.” ([32:55])

• After alligators, viral songs, and world tours:

  “He grew up with me; he got it out the mud with me.” (on his pet alligator's destiny [15:13])

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• [01:44]: Wild Orlando concert story (clown, trash can, broken skull)
• [05:00]: Live phone call with Skrilla’s injured friend
• [08:29 - 09:14]: Story of buying a Kensington gator
• [13:21]: Losing the alligator in his apartment: “I couldn’t go to sleep for two days straight.”
• [15:38]: The dangers of Galaxy Gas and quitting
• [22:25]: The rise of "Six Seven"
• [29:03]: Family’s reaction to fame: “It’s regular.”
• [31:00]: House arrest and tattoo confessions
• [34:00 - 38:00]: The water-gun police incident, night in a filthy jail cell
• [43:50]: Mexican heritage and religion
• [51:20]: GTA persona and ambitions for GTA 6
• [52:44]: Riding in a 1967 Lincoln to a show with NBA Youngboy

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Final Thoughts

This episode skillfully balances raw, authentic street storytelling with off-the-wall comedy. Skrilla’s willingness to share stories of both adversity and triumph—filter-free—proves why he’s a captivating guest. Matt and Shane create a warm, nonjudgmental vibe, drawing out Skrilla’s humor, introspection, and realness. Listeners are left with a portrait of a uniquely resilient and original artist: a “Kensington kid” on the cusp of global recognition, spiritual and funny as hell.

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For more wild tales and honest laughs, check out the next episode of Matt and Shane’s Secret Podcast.

Transcript

[A]

The Wild, Wild West.

[B]

Skrilla.

[A]

What's going on?

[B]

Thank you for coming to the podcast, bro.

[A]

What's. Yeah. What's. Yeah.

[C]

So you Matt?

[A]

Matt.

[C]

I'm Shane.

[A]

Shane. Yeah. And Shane.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

All right. Bet. Scrilla.

[C]

Yeah. It's nice to meet you, man.

[A]

Nice to meet you guys, too.

[B]

Pumped you're on.

[A]

You say hope I'm on.

[B]

I'm pumped you're on, man. Pumped you're on the show.

[A]

Oh, pump me on the show.

[B]

No, I'm pumped. Hell, no pause, but I'm pumped you're on the show. I'm excited. I'm excited.

[A]

Don't say that. No day.

[B]

I'm excited the show.

[A]

All right. Yeah. Now you already know.

[B]

Want to get you on for a while.

[A]

Yeah, no, for sure. I remember when I first seen Josh, though. Probably like, you been, like, a year, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was watching the Kensington cameras.

[B]

Yeah, dude.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I was. Dude, we were on a. I was on a tour bus. I was on tour with Bert Kreischer, and we're just after the show, hanging out, and I'm like, I think big. Big J Okerson. He's a funny comedian. He was like. Yeah. He was like, dude, check this out. And he put on the Kensington cab, and I was like, that's Skrilla. I was like, what the. And we. Yeah, we were just like that. We were watching. It was. Looked kind of sick up there, honestly. Looked fun.

[A]

Yeah. No, it's tough. Yeah. I'll be out there all the time when I'm in the city.

[B]

Yeah, man. It was pretty cool. Yeah. So you grew. You. Yeah. You grew up around there, right?

[A]

Yeah, I grew up. Yeah, I grew up in Kensington. Yeah. Not where you see me at, though. That's not where I grew up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that's like. That's, like where all the cool people chill at. That's from Kensington.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So I just chill over there, though. I'm from, like, the heart. Like, the middle of it, though. They can't put. They ain't got no cameras right there.

[B]

Yeah, true.

[A]

It's like the bad. Bad sound like, in the middle of it. In the middle of it. Right there where you see. That's like the outskirts. Yeah. I like the people. I like to. Not to say it like that, though, but the fiends come to that side and just sit there and chill out, because that's where the cops are. Everything is safe right there on that side. So that's the side.

[C]

Themes seem pretty chill.

[A]

Yeah. Hell, yeah. They just like us.

[C]

Yeah. They seem all right.

[A]

Yeah, they just like us. I just had a fucking show in Orlando. It was in Orlando, right? Where bro jumped off of the. Yeah, this is my man. He from Philly, though. He from Philly. He moved to Orlando, bro. He fucking jumped on. So he. So when I got to the show, he already at the show. And when I seen him, he walked right up to me and grabbed me by. Grabbed my shoulder. Yo, bro, I just snuck inside the. Inside of your room?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And he got his fucking face painted as a clown. You picture. He got his face painted as a clown. He got the red nose and everything. He like, bro, I snuck in here, bro. You got to take me on stage with you. And I'm like, all right, I'm taking on stage. We get to the stage. We get to the stage, and I let it. I'm like, yo, you could just come for, like, probably, like, one or two songs, and that's it, bro. Not too much. He get on stage. He sat there for the whole time, and then. Then he keeps walking. He walked up to me, and grandma shorty said, yo, bro, it's a trash. You know, I got, like, my. My setup, though. Like, my setup is like, Kensington. So I got the trash can. I got the tents. I got clothes. He tapped the trash can. He's like, throw the trash can in my face while I'm on the stage performing. So I'm like, damn, should I do this shit? I just did it.

[B]

Bang.

[A]

I hit him in. I hit him in the face with the trash can. He's like, bro, now I need to do something else. Bro, just count off the three. Count off the three. And I'm.

[B]

This is while your show's going on.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I'm the four.

[B]

This guy rules.

[A]

I'm rapping my SO and he's whispering in my ear the whole time, like, bro, tell. Count down to three. Count down to three. So I'm like, all right, bet. We just gonna count down to 6, 7. Then 1, 2, 3. I say 6, 7. He jumps off the trash can and jumps into the crowd. And this in the crowd didn't catch him. The crowd. The crowd pushed him. He pushed him. He was trying to push him back on the stage, but when he jumped, he hit his face on the corner of the stage, and he fractured. He broke a bone in his skull. The air tunnels weren't going to his tunnels. The air tunnels that go to your brain. I don't know. I don't know if I'm explaining it right, but he wasn't Getting air oxygen towards his brain.

[B]

Oh, shit. He got fucked up.

[A]

Yeah, he broke his entire eye socket. Broke in his eye whole entire. He can't even see right now. He can't even see that well out of his eyes.

[B]

What's he doing now?

[A]

Yeah, matter of fact, he just clowning around. He just ran away. He just ran out of the hospital.

[B]

He escaped the hospital, too.

[A]

Yeah, he just ran out of the house.

[B]

Also, too. I want to give you credit. You started the 67 trend. A lot of people don't realize that.

[A]

Yeah, not for sure.

[B]

It's kind of sick.

[A]

Yeah, no, that's so global. Yo, my boy. What you doing?

[C]

Yo, what's up, bro?

[A]

Yo, I'm on a big podcast. I just. I was just talking about. Is this 432? Is this 432?

[B]

Hell, yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Two Herz.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Hell yeah. In the room.

[A]

Hey, yo, I'm on a podcast, too. You're. I was just talking about you. Yo, what's good, bro?

[B]

What's up?

[C]

How's your eye doing?

[A]

That's good. Tell them you just ran. Tell them what you just did. Tell Matt I was at the funniest. Funniest affiliate when he won that.

[B]

Oh, nice. Hell, yeah.

[A]

Hey, yo, tell. Tell them how you did. Tell them where you just ran out of the hospital, though.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, Jesus, man.

[A]

Out the hospital because they wouldn't give me no pain meds.

[B]

It's, you know, it happens.

[A]

Did they see the video? No, I ain't seeing the video yet. I just explained it to him, though.

[B]

Story's pretty good.

[C]

Show them.

[A]

Show them the video. Don't understand, bro.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. It's nice to meet you boys.

[C]

Nice to meet you, man.

[A]

All right, love, bro. I'll call you in a little bit. Yeah, yeah, thank you.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I'll call you in a little bit.

[C]

That's awesome.

[A]

I think he knew y'. All.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. He's from Philly, though.

[B]

How the hell the show's been, man?

[A]

Yeah, this. I'm going on to my third tour show. My third show on tour. Everybody going great. I just had my last show, so. My last. My first two shows was in Miami and Orlando out of the roof.

[C]

When were you in Orlando?

[A]

How I.

[C]

No, when were you.

[A]

I was just there, like, literally, probably like, three, four days ago.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Just miss each other.

[C]

Yeah, Just missed.

[A]

That. Shows a movie, too, but I just had a show in this. This Houston. All right, So I just had a show in Houston.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And how was that? It wasn't. I don't know. It probably was because I didn't promote it a lot, though. But it was probably only like 100 people there. But the venue only carried 200, though, so that's fine. It was, like, half full, though.

[C]

What venue was it? Yeah, we both performed there.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. And when I be it, don't be a lot of people and I'll be able to feed off a lot of energy. I get, like, a little nervous.

[C]

Of course.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know how it is, though. Like, when you perform it and everybody's not.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

But it still was a great show, though. Like, I'm not saying it was a bad show. It was a great show, though. It was just. I was expecting more, so I was. You know, I just. You know how the nerves. Yeah, the nervous shows are when you leave off of the show. It's like, did you do good or did you not do good? Are you just, like, in your head?

[B]

I guess it's hard. Yeah. It's hard to tell.

[C]

Are you getting, like, young kids coming now because of six, seven?

[A]

Yeah. Hell, yeah.

[C]

Every single. So any sporting event I go to, anytime a camera is on a kid, every single time, they go, yeah.

[A]

No, that is crazy. Yeah, that is crazy. I never expected. No, like that for over. That song. Crazy Kim Kardashian even doing it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who were you just on stage with? The lady who sings. What's that song?

[A]

Yeah. Natasha Benningfield.

[C]

That's awesome.

[A]

That's my baby girl. I love her.

[B]

Yeah, dude.

[A]

Yeah, she's great. I love her. Yeah, we. She. We about to do a remix. We doing a re. We just doing a remix. Six, seven. We actually doing a song. I forgot what it's called, though. It's called. It's a song called. I know you guys know it, though. It's called, like, Zombies. Like a country song. She wanted to do it. Damn. Let me see. I think.

[B]

Can I. Can I ask you something real quick?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you still have your pet alligator?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I just told him. I just texted my mom earlier today to go over to my house and feed it.

[C]

How long. How long have you had it?

[A]

Probably about a year.

[B]

How big's he getting?

[C]

He's probably getting big.

[A]

He's like, I had him for probably about a year and some change. He felt like this.

[C]

You got an alligator in Kensington.

[A]

That's where our buddy is.

[C]

Crazy.

[B]

How'd you get that?

[A]

It's crazy because I bought it in Kensington. I bought the alligator in Kensington. It was a fiend. It Was a fiend walking. Had some alligators walking around with an alligator. Crazy to say. Just walking around. I was shooting a video and I just happened to see somebody walking by with an alligator walking by. And I'm like, yo, what you want for it? I'll buy it for you off you right now. He's like, no, this is my baby. And I'm like, bro, I'll give you whatever you want. He like, I'm. He like. I'm like, what do you want? He's like, $50.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, yeah, let me get it.

[B]

For sure. Not the best negotiator. How much would you have paid for the alligator?

[C]

Couldn't even buy Maddie.

[A]

Could have took whatever.

[C]

He's one alligator away from getting the deluxe John Madden video game.

[A]

Yeah, you could have told me whatever. I would have paid.

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[B]

So the alligator. How do you. How do you take care of an alligator?

[A]

Yeah, so I got. I got a cousin. I got a cousin. I don't know how she's not scared to grab the alligator the way she is, though. Like, she just goes in there, grabs it. I'm scared, though. So when I want to play around with it, I'll call my cousin, like, yo, yo, come to my house. What you doing? You bored? Come to my house. She'll come over and she'll just pick it up. Do I. But when I feed it, I just get, like, little tonsils.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Have the mouse in there.

[C]

What do you. Oh, you feed it mice?

[A]

Yeah, I feed a mice. I feed them rats.

[B]

Where does it live from? Does it live, like, in a tank or.

[A]

Tank? Yeah, I got a balcony and my complex. I got a balcony and the tank is like, probably about like. Like. Yeah. Literally, like, the size of this part of the car.

[B]

Oh, that's awesome.

[A]

Yeah, so I just. He just in. He's just in the tank.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I got a feet. I got it. Not say feet. I got to clean it out. I'd be scared to, like, take it out and clean it. So it's like a dirty tank right now. Swampy. It's swampy right now.

[B]

But your mom's handling the alligator right now.

[A]

Yeah, she about to. I just texted her this money. Yeah, she should have probably went over there and fed him already.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah. Yep.

[B]

Yeah. Has it bit you yet?

[A]

No, but it tried. When I first got it. When I first got it, I didn't have a tank for it.

[B]

So I saw it in your shower. There's a video. Just an alligator in the shower.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You be the first rapper to get bit by an alligator.

[A]

So when I first got it. When I first got it, I didn't have nowhere to put it, and then it never caused my mind to put it in the shower. So I had it running around the entire house for, like, two days. They mostly stay still every day while I sleep.

[C]

She running around.

[A]

Yeah. When I bought. I. In my house, I don't got a. I don't got a bed set up. I got a bed, but I don't got the. What is it called? The frame.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I don't got a bed. I just got a bed. And the bed's on the floor.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I just bought a king size bed and just threw them on the floor. Like, just a mattress. Just threw it on the floor.

[B]

Your Alligator Ranger.

[A]

So when I'm laying down, I'm laying down right this low. So when I first got it and put it in the house, I couldn't even go to sleep. Cause I lost them the first day I lost them and I couldn't find them. So I just couldn't go to sleep for like two days straight.

[C]

There's an alligator in the house. I can't sleep. If I saw a spider. If I saw a spider before I turned the lights out, I'm. That fucker's in here. You got a gator going down there.

[B]

That's so terrifying. Yeah, I couldn't sleep if there's a gator on the loose.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So even a baby gator bite would hurt.

[C]

Yeah, like hell.

[B]

Oh, damn.

[A]

Yeah. And you know, they do like death twirl. Like when they latch on to their jaw is like really strong. They jaw stronger than ours. And you know when they bite, when they get bigger, though, they'll just spin their body and just go. Oh, they just keep spinning. You know, they got. It's called death.

[B]

Yeah. That'd be a terrible way to wake up. Just say, death World.

[C]

Your foot ripped off.

[A]

God damn.

[B]

So what are you going to do when it gets like. I guess do they. Are they like. I know iguanas only grow so big as their tank.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What are you gonna do when the thing gets.

[A]

It's kind of like the same thing with the alligators, though, too, though. But they're always going to outgrow the tank. They're not like iguanas, though. They grow. Oh, no, they're still going to grow, but they. The process of their growth is slower, though, while they're in a smaller tank.

[B]

Gotcha.

[C]

But just put them out on Kensington. Put them out on Ken. They'll take care of it. Somebody will get it.

[A]

When you get older. I'll probably just move them back to the tub.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now you have no choice. You got to get the big mansion so you can get an alligator. You can get it. You can put them in a moat outside your house. That'd be tight.

[A]

That's. That's my whole plan, though. That's what I was gonna say.

[C]

Get a moat.

[A]

Yeah, because he grew up with me, he got it out the mud with me.

[C]

What's his name? Does he have a name?

[A]

Yeah. Train.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah. I was so excited to have you on. I've seen you do. I saw you do. No jumper the first time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you're off the Galaxy Gas now.

[A]

Yeah, that shit's bad, dude. I know. I didn't even know what it was when I was doing it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I just went in the smoke shop and I saw it, and I'm asking like, what is it? And he told me, like, it's like hippie crack. And I'm like, it. Let me try it. And I just. It just went with my image, though. It just went with my image, so I didn't even know what it was. I thought it was just nitrous.

[B]

Yeah. It looks cool. As though. The box looks cool. It says Galaxy Gas.

[C]

There's, like, a picture that time I was playing poker and it was in North Philly.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Literally, everybody else was just doing nitrous.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I was like, I'm gonna win. In between the hands. Better call.

[B]

Apparently, if you do it all, like, you can do it every now and again. If you're like the dentist or whatever. If you do even a little bit every day, your body stops producing beat, like vitamin B12. That's why people's legs go numb. And did you get any of that?

[A]

Or you were just like, I'm taking a too long.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. You'll get legs pretty much fore. I get. I look. I get it every now and again. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Looking at your phone on the toilet.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Now, luckily, though, no problems.

[B]

That's good.

[A]

Yeah. No health problems.

[B]

That's good.

[A]

Yeah. Thank God.

[B]

That's good.

[A]

I didn't even know what I was doing, so if I got health problems, I would have been, like, questioning God, like, why you do this to me? And I did it to myself.

[B]

I mean, it is crazy. They don't warn you, like, yeah, you can do that.

[A]

Yeah. I didn't know. Yeah.

[B]

Does make your voice sound cool, as though.

[A]

Yeah, I was doing it and I was thinking it was cool. And then I got a lot of people. Other people doing it, making it, you know, I got.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So many people see me doing it, they're like, oh, what's Scrilla doing? All right, we're doing that too. And then I actually, like, start really, like, understanding what it is. And then I'm like, oh, man, I got so many people on this, and. And now I can't take it back from her. So it's just like I just completely stopped and I just now let it be known, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, like, that is no good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, did you have, like, an experience that, like, turned you off from it where you were like, no more? Or like.

[A]

Nah, I didn't really have any experience, though. I just got like, informed. But.

[B]

Who told you? Who, like, pulled you aside and were like, bro, Instagram. Nice.

[C]

Yeah, it was like, yo, cut that up. I'm high. I'm high.

[A]

No, no, but I just. I just. People inform me on Instagram and like that, you know, I might go through my comments, then other people, yo, yeah, leave that and damn. What the. I was about to say. Oh, my. My memory.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Memory, yeah. Like, I would be thinking, it's just me naturally, though. But I don't know if it was that or just me, but, yeah, my memory was gone a little bit. Like, I'll be like, yo, I'm about to go to go. I order Uber Eats McDonald's and forget and remember. Three days later, like, damn, where the. My McDonald's. And I'll go down and see.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, now that my memory was short, though. My. I had very, very short memory.

[C]

I get that from booze.

[A]

I'll.

[C]

I'll grub up something. Fall asleep.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Next day at fucking 1pm, I open the door and go, fuck, Fuck, fuck. I could have had Whataburger last night.

[A]

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Get an extra 5% off every rack purchase with your Nordstrom credit card. Plus, buy it online and pick it up in store the same day for free. Big gifts, big perks. That's why you rack. Yeah, but my memory was gone. I didn't have no memory.

[B]

So what's the regimen now? It's just the vape. I know you hit the vape all the time. It's just the vape.

[A]

Nah, I don't even really hit the vase. I just wanted to hit it right now.

[B]

Gotcha.

[A]

Yeah, I had the vase. There's like once in the blue, I got like. I got like, something where I would say I'm going to just say I got thing where, like, drugs help me communicate.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They help me communicate and be myself a little more. Like, without the shit. I'm like, more like real, like quiet, chill. Like, not really, like, communicative.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean? I'm just like, more than myself. But when it helps me commute, it just helps. It just helps me a lot with a lot of things, though. A lot of the things that like, that come with My lifestyle, though, making music and shit. Like, a lot of shit. You know, I just kind of sign up for it, and that's just like.

[B]

Yeah. How long you been making music?

[A]

For, like, eight years.

[B]

Eight years?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not bad.

[A]

Yeah. And that been, like, my big thing to go to on and make music.

[B]

Yeah. I saw. I saw a clip of you where you were wondering if you were achieving unk status. I think you're far from an unk, dude.

[A]

Say it again.

[B]

I saw a clip of you said you're worried. You're like. You're like. I don't. I've been doing music for eight years. I don't know if I'm becoming an unc. And it was like, I was watching it, like, dude, you're not an unk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, but these guys are honks, dude.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's awkward. You're still.

[A]

I'll be hanging around. I'll be hanging around a lot of people that's younger than me, my age and younger, though. You know, A lot of my friends are, like, my age and younger, so when I'm with them, I'm a unc, though, right Now, y' all uncs, though, right? I'm definitely. I'm definitely not.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because you're. You're 26, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. You're not. You got to be at least 30 for to be unk.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So we're almost ageing out of unc, dude.

[B]

What are we. What is after unc? Is there even anything after that og? Oh, I can't wait to be an og, dude.

[A]

Yeah. I think we're close.

[B]

We are close. That close. We're close. I'll be 40. I'll be 40 this year.

[C]

45.

[A]

You? Oh, gee, your whole head is great. What more do you want?

[B]

You're right. I have kids. I'm grand. I have an OG now. You're right. Thank you.

[A]

No, that's good, though. It's a blessing. A lot of people don't even get make it past 21.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Definitely where I'll come from not making it past 21 at all. Yeah.

[B]

It's got to be crazy. Yeah. Now you're, like, you know, I think you're definitely kind of ticking upward, man. What's the master plan? What are you trying to do?

[A]

I'm working on a master plan right now, though. But I'm, like, knocking a lot of, like, my little check boxes off the board, though. Like, a lot of things that I want to do with myself, though. Like, one thing I'm working on Is, well, this. I'm finally on the tour right now. Finally got a good song. Like a. I would say. I wouldn't say a hit, but I would say a hit. The six, seven song.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Finally got a hit song out. Yeah. And that Been out six, seven months ago, literally. And it's just now taking out six, seven months later.

[B]

Damn. What do you make about. What do you make of that?

[A]

Yeah. Nah, because at first it was taking off, though, but now it's like, yeah.

[C]

Everybody on Sports Center. They say it on during games.

[A]

Yeah. It just needed some time to soak in, though. But I got that out of the way working on my album. I want a couple features that I don't got yet. And I work. I'm getting. I'm working. I'm getting my. Working on getting my rest of my body teddy sick. I'm getting my whole body tedded as a skeleton sick.

[C]

Oh, just in time for Halloween.

[A]

I'm getting my whole tire and body, and I'm gonna start coming out with just a pair of draws on and some slides. Damn. My whole body chat is a skeleton.

[B]

I mean, that is the master plan. That's awesome.

[A]

Yeah, that's cool.

[B]

Hell, yeah, that's cool.

[A]

Yeah. Hopefully I'm wearing a suit. So everybody dress up as me for Halloween.

[B]

Oh, dude, one of our friend's daughters dressed up as you for Halloween. Big J's daughter.

[C]

Oh, really?

[B]

Dressed up as you for Halloween last year. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

What the hell she dressed up like. What she do?

[C]

She's a black face?

[B]

No, no, she just wore, like. I don't know. I got to see the pictures again. But she just kind of wore something you would wear. You know what it was? It was the big flowy pants.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's pretty cool.

[A]

Yeah, that's tough.

[C]

That's awesome. Yeah.

[B]

You're capturing the minds of, you know, a lot of people, dude.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It's a blessing.

[C]

Who would you. Who do you want to feature with?

[A]

Natasha Benningfield did that already. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, definitely. Yeah.

[C]

It could be anybody.

[A]

All right, Natasha, you ever heard of Tierra Whack? Tierra Whack? Yeah. Search of Tierra Whack when you don't get a chance. She's from Philly. She's from Kensington, too.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah, she's from Kensington. You might see her walk around next time, too. No, no, no, I'm joking. Up. But she's from Kensington. She's from Kensington, though. Tierra Whack. Yeah. Search up T.R. wack.

[B]

Who else? I feel like you could do that. I feel like you. Definitely.

[A]

Yeah. No, those. I just wanted to put her name in it. I just want to say her name. All right. I'm a thing. Let me think. All right. My number one. Tired of the creator.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Tired of the creator and Kaye. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[B]

That'd be pretty sick, actually.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I look up to Kanye.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He like the goat. Yeah, right. He's like, God. All right.

[C]

I think he is.

[B]

He's pretty awesome.

[C]

We've had this argument a lot, and we've all agreed. Consensus.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. He's a beast. I wonder what he's up to right now. Ran into some trouble. Got himself into some trouble.

[C]

Got in a bit of a pickle with the Jews.

[A]

Yeah, he'll give a. That's what I like about it. Does not give a. Yeah, I. With Kanye. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. That'd be cool. I think, dude, you. I think you could do it. It's pretty. I don't know. It could happen.

[A]

Who y' all listen to? Like, what's your taste of music?

[B]

I listen to a lot of it. I'm trying to think. I listen to everything, man. I listen to, like, old folk music. I listen to some rap. I listen to pretty much everything.

[A]

On the type of rap you listen to, you look like when you. You take vacations is you got your packed up, the boots on top of the car. You about to go. Yeah, like, he look like. He goes crazy, like. You look like the father off of Ozark. You like the dad off of Ozark.

[B]

Yeah, I can see that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No, my.

[C]

Who would be mostly Drake and Kanye.

[B]

Yeah, he's Drake and Kanye. Drake, I like. Who's my. Out of. My favorite rapper. Besides you, obviously. Big. I was a big Styles P guy.

[A]

Yeah. Listen to my music, though.

[B]

Yeah. Dude, what are you talking about?

[A]

For real?

[B]

Yeah. Are you kidding me? I talk about your stuff all the time. I watch every video that comes out. I get genuinely excited for it.

[A]

Damn, that's tough.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so you say me and who?

[B]

I like Styles P. Yeah, yeah. From the Locks. Remember Jada? I'm a og. I. Listen, man.

[A]

I know. I heard everything, though.

[B]

Yeah. There was another. Who was I just thinking about the other day? I was like, damn. I. I love them, too.

[C]

Kodak's up there.

[B]

Kodak Black. You've done stuff with Kodak?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kodak. Yeah. That's my brother. I just want to film with him. Yesterday, he having a Halloween party. He want me to Be at the Halloween party.

[B]

So tight.

[C]

Me and.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Florida.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Tampa.

[C]

So you should probably do that. Yeah, I'm awesome.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. I'll go. For sure.

[B]

What's your favorite city besides Philadelphia, obviously?

[A]

Florida.

[B]

You like Florida?

[A]

My number one cities. I like it out here, though, too. Yeah, I like. I like it out here. I like it out here.

[B]

How you like Chicago?

[A]

I love Chicago. Chicago is actually my number one.

[B]

Is it really?

[A]

But no, Florida is my number one favorite state. But. But I like Florida, though. But I like Chicago more. It's like, I can't choose out of Chicago and Florida. They like. It's like Battle of the Bands. For real? Yeah. So Chicago and Florida is like, my number one.

[B]

What do you like about Chicago?

[A]

My family lives there.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[A]

Yeah, my family lives there, and I just like. I was like. I don't know. I just like it.

[C]

I see what you like about Florida. I could tell.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Florida is crazy. Yeah, they're fun.

[B]

Florida rules. I love Florida. I like Florida and Chicago as well. They're both really good. Yeah, Chicago is crazy because if. Yeah. I didn't go there for the first time until I was in, like, my 30s, and it's. It's amazing. It's like. Yeah, it's such a nice. I never even thought about it. It's. My wife's from Chicago, and I went there for the first. She always Like, Chicago is so cool. And I'm like, fuck Chicago. And then I went there and I'm like, damn, this place actually rules.

[A]

Chicago's.

[B]

Yeah, Choco's. Super nice. The lake. Ever gonna lake the beach and everything in Chicago?

[A]

I never have.

[B]

Dude, it's fucking awesome. It's like a shoot. Always be like, oh, it's a great lake. I'm like, it's not an ocean, man. It's. You go there. There's like real waves.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

No.

[C]

Yeah. It's gigantic. Massive.

[B]

It's awesome. Chicago definitely rules.

[A]

Yeah, I like Chicago, though. Yeah. My family's from out there. So when I'm there, I met my grandma. They, like, raised me, too. My grandma's house, all day. I got my own room over there.

[B]

That's cool.

[A]

In her house, like, I just go around. I just maneuver.

[C]

How's your family. How's your family feel about your success right now?

[A]

It's regular. They don't really, like. They don't really care too much.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, unless you're talking about, like, the younger ones, like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They're excited.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, yeah. Six, seven.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, like the older one. Like my grandma, aunts, and mother, and it's just like, yeah, congratulations. It's just I'm still the same person.

[B]

Yeah. Are they ever on your ass being like, bro, you better stop around or anything like that?

[A]

What with, like, telling me to make music?

[B]

No, not with the music.

[A]

Just with the shit I'll be doing. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, they would be on my ass. I. My mom and father been on my ass all my life where it got to a point where it's just like. Just let him.

[B]

Let you do your thing.

[A]

Nothing we could do.

[C]

He's getting alligator. He's gonna get an alligator. There's nothing we can do about this. He's headed straight to getting an alligator.

[B]

What was school like for you? What was school like? Were you, like, good in school or.

[A]

I was good and I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't bad. I wasn't bad in school. Like, I was a good kid. Yeah. I. I'm not like, no pressure. I wasn't going there, like, fighting and dying. I was just going to school and just not do nothing. Yeah. That's the most I would do, like. Yeah, I just. Would just go there and just. Just hang around. I was like, cool kid, just chill. Regular. Yeah. Go to one of my friends cribs. I just got. Just basically didn't do nothing. For real.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Yeah, I didn't do nothing. But I passed, though. Like, I still passed. Everybody I hung with was smart. Everybody gave me the. I just passed off of getting by. But other than that, though, I was going to school, going to my neighborhood, selling drugs, and going home doing the same thing every. Yeah. So I really, like, had, like.

[B]

You had a nice retreat.

[A]

I was on house arrest for my entire school, high school.

[B]

Were you really?

[A]

I was on house arrest from 10th grade until I graduated.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah, So I was from 10th grade to 12th till I graduated. I was in. On house arrest. I was in drug, alcohol programs. I was in probation programs. Like, so after school I would have to go to program. I was like, really, like, on a, like, real, like, straight timing schedule. Yeah. And then I had to be in the house right after program, and I would try to sneak and go do something before I go in and then go end up.

[B]

What'd you get and what'd you get in trouble for originally?

[A]

Selling drugs.

[B]

They got you?

[A]

Yeah, that was my big thing. That's like the only thing that I had a problem with.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Growing up, it's just. I just sold out. I just sold drugs I got fucking dope tatted on my face.

[C]

Yeah, it's a dead giveaway. Son of a bitch.

[B]

Even the police lineup, it's like, I'm pretty sure there's him.

[C]

That's.

[B]

That's him.

[C]

Officer.

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Oh, boy, that guy's a tool.

[B]

Shifting gears. New Wednesdays, 8, 7 Central on ABC and stream on Hulu. How are Philly cops to you? Cause I'm sure some of them definitely know you.

[A]

Yeah, growing up, though, they hated me, though. Like, growing up I was just, I was drawn. I just didn't care. Yeah, yeah, growing up, though, but now, like, not, not till right now, probably it started about a couple years ago. Like, I'm 26. Starting about five years ago, probably maybe four. A lot of the cops grew up with, with me. So now they know me from when I was 16 to now. And they, now when they look at me, they tilt their hat to me. Like, they'll walk up to me and she gonna hear, yo, yeah, you doing. Like, they, they, they're, they, they, they're happy for me.

[B]

That's cool.

[A]

A lot of them happy for me in their own type of way, though. So, you know, they'll see me and they'll make jokes and remember, I remember this. Remember you?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I'm not supposed to talk about it no more. All right, fuck it. I really didn't shoot him. I really didn't shoot him in his face.

[B]

I thought it was an accident.

[A]

He just lied. What a.

[C]

He got shot about it.

[A]

He lied about it. I just was shooting the Orbi gun towards their way and they made it, they made, they made something big out of it that it didn't happen to be. Like, they just started. It wasn't even all of them. It was just that one cop. He just started overreacting. I really didn't even mean it that way.

[C]

How old Were you like, huh? Was he, how old were you?

[A]

It just happened.

[C]

Oh, all right.

[B]

What color was the water gun?

[A]

It was like a month. It was like two.

[B]

Yeah, he got, yeah, they arrested.

[C]

Well, I guess if it's an adult man doing it to you.

[B]

What color?

[C]

I thought you were a kid. I was gonna be like, that sucks.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Now if an adult man shoots you with a water gun, you gotta fight.

[B]

How much? How much? Like what was it? A Super Soaker was like a little dollar store. What?

[A]

It goes like little dollar store. White or orange? It was like, like I could shoot you in there and you just going to laugh. Like I was just trying to be. They like, not their friend, but I was trying to be cool. Like, yeah, is he doing, you know, somebody shoots you, the we going, yeah.

[B]

If it was one of the ones with like a backpack, it was like a Super Soaker 5000. I could see him getting a little bit miffed. Like True Dollar Store.

[C]

Those ones on Instagram Electronic.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So how far away from them were you, bro?

[A]

From here. They're out of the door.

[B]

That's got some range on it.

[A]

I shot towards him. It didn't.

[B]

Were they trying to claim like they thought it was a real gun or.

[A]

Like they said something about it. I was on the news and everything about like the, the was like they made.

[B]

Was it like a bright green water.

[A]

Gun or was it like it was white and orange? Yeah, yeah, white and orange. It was just something taken out of the, I don't know how to say the big word for it.

[B]

Context, I guess so.

[A]

Context. Yeah.

[B]

That's bullshit, man. Yeah, but how long did you get? Where were you? Just like locked up overnight?

[A]

Yeah, I was in the district for a day and a half. I was sitting in the district for a day and a half. Yeah, spread as shit. And you know, and you know, the cops, when I was doing, they was locking me up, their cops was all like super mad at me and they're like exaggerating the situation. Like I tried to go in my hell and I'm like, can I take my hoodie? I, I, I only had a tank top on under my hoodie. So I'm like, can I take my hoodie? Cuz you know, it's cold inside the district, like, can I take my hoodie? And they're like, no. So I'm in there with a tank top on.

[B]

She's like, dude, I'm soaking wet. I've been playing with the water gun.

[A]

All day and I'm cool as they give me a Cell, like where it's throw up. You know the district, you know, the Kensington district is where all like the fiends go. And, you know, they've been going through withdrawals. So it's like I'm where throw up everywhere, piss everywhere. So I'm in a set. So they actually could have used a.

[C]

Super soaker in there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Clean it up a little.

[A]

Yeah, they put. They put me in a cell with multiple people. There was about five people. And while I was in the cell, everybody was like running up to me like, yo, bro. Yeah, what you in here for?

[C]

Oh, it's a nightmare.

[A]

Yeah. So. And then I'm looking at the officer like, you gonna do this to me? Like, I'm in. I'm in. I'm in it with a whole bunch of random people. And they all like raining my face, trying to talk to me, and I'm like, damn, can you at least put me by myself?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm looking at them. I didn't even say nothing though. They just, they. It was like after like a minute left, they hear the people screaming, still talking to me. And I'm just sitting there talking back with a mad dog.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And they take. They like, come on. They pull me out, they took me to my own cell. But the cell they put me in, his throw up. His throw up in the corner. It smell like shit. There's like all this pee on the floor. So I had to sit there and lay on a certain part of the. I'm sitting there with the coldest shit standing right here the whole time for a whole day and a half.

[B]

Oh, but.

[A]

And then I'm asking them for tissue. They didn't give me no tissue. They didn't give me no water, no food. I just was in there like. Like a dog.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah, but at least it was only a day and a half, though.

[B]

What was it? What did they actually charge you with a lot?

[A]

Simple assault, aggravated sub police officer, aggravated symbol assault police officer. And control. I forgot it's called reap. It's like control of everybody.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like they listening to me.

[B]

Inciting.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Like not supposed to be. That's a whole bunch of different charges. Like, they just threw the book at me.

[C]

Damn. They thought you're gonna incite like a water balloon.

[B]

Yeah. Damn. So, yeah, that sucks. You gotta fight all that, Stu. That's like jail time, isn't it? Assaulting and all?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I don't think so. I don't want to sour the mood. My bad.

[A]

Yeah, I know, hopefully not. We'll see, though.

[B]

Damn. There you go.

[A]

Yeah, we see.

[B]

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[C]

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I mean, dude, our team's amazing.

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What's he up to? What are you up to?

[A]

Nothing.

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We doing.

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Full Beetle juice.

[A]

Who? Huh?

[C]

Me. Nothing. Just hanging around. I couldn't imagine doing our podcast without Lamar Lee. Examples. I couldn't imagine doing this show without my. Yeah, I couldn't imagine doing the show without Matt. He makes work a blast.

[B]

Or I couldn't imagine what a rough day would look like without my partner.

[C]

That Matt just has a way of cheering me up when I'm feeling down. See what I mean, though? That's. That brings me great joy. It's rough, Matt. It's tough.

[A]

God.

[C]

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This coming weekend, 17th and 18th, I'll be in Las Vegas. But right now, November 7th. November 8th. November 7th, I'll be in San Francisco. November 8th, they'll be in Sacramento. Please come to those.

[B]

Nice. And while you're in Las Vegas, I'll be in the east coast form of Las Vegas, which Is Buffalo, New York. I'll be in Buffalo, New York, at the helium comedy club. 1017, 1018, I believe. Off the hook comedy club, Naples, Florida. 11 7, 11 8. Comedy on state, Madison, Wisconsin. The Blue Room Comedy Club, Springfield, Missouri. And Funny Bone Comedy in Syracuse, New York. 1219. Also, I. I believe one of them's getting canceled. I don't know if it's Bricktown or if it's the Blue Room.

[C]

Well, leave that part out.

[B]

Oh, okay. Well, I'm trying to sell tickets.

[C]

One of these shows isn't going to happen.

[B]

One of them isn't. I forget.

[C]

So tickets at your own discretion.

[B]

There's been some funny business at one of the clubs.

[C]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah. So they're going to. I think it might be the Blue Room, now that I say that. So Bricktown Comedy Club, you guys are fine. Tulsa, Oklahoma, where the hell yet? Yeah, so come on. Matt McCusker.com for you want to promote some shows?

[A]

Please, please, just. Optimum Noctis, October 21st. Please come see me, Lamar, Sean, a bunch of other our friends. And please, if you're in Atlanta, October 23rd, Atlanta Helium, I think, and it's technically an Alpharetta. Please come. I would really love that.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Appreciate it.

[B]

That'll be awesome. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Nice, man. You got to perform an ACL tonight, right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Acl?

[B]

Yeah. Austin. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Austin City Limits. Yeah, acl. Austin City Limits.

[A]

All right. Damn, you got bone. And you call it the acl, too, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a show tonight. Yeah, In a couple hours at the festival. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm about to go there right after.

[C]

Where you at next?

[A]

San Antonio.

[C]

Oh, sick.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Yeah, San Antonio. And then I go to Chicago. I don't know the order, though, but I'm definitely going to Chicago. Yeah, my family live out here, too.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Yeah, they live in Texas. Yeah, my family live in Texas. You know, I'm Mexican.

[B]

Yeah. So. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So my mom. Oh, my family all lives out here. Like, my mom's family lives out here in Chicago. Like, that's where my family lives. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Hell yeah.

[A]

So my mom might come out here or she might meet me in Chicago, though, to meet the family. Yeah.

[C]

So I checked out your Wikipedia before this.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Saw the Mexican and then depracticed Santeria.

[A]

Yeah. Paula.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What's going on with that? I know nothing about that.

[A]

Yeah, nothing going on. Like, regular. That's like, my religion.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, regular.

[B]

Pretty regular stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Nice. Is there, like, levels to it? Or you can't even talk about it.

[A]

No, it is levels, though, really. Yeah, yeah, you gotta get. Yeah, you get ceremonies. Yeah, you go to this. Different. It's different. Yeah, it's different levels. And there's different branches of it, though, too, though, so it's like. It's a lot of different. Like, you have to, like, really, like, look into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Isn't like, a branch, like. Isn't it, like, a combination of Catholicism, like Spanish Catholicism and native religions?

[B]

Could be.

[C]

That's what I always assume.

[B]

Yeah. Do they.

[C]

That was like.

[B]

Yeah, think so.

[A]

Yeah. It's like. I don't know what cathology means, though.

[C]

Just Christianity, like a cross.

[B]

Yeah. Jesus.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like every religion is like.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Well, so you could look at. I mean, Jesus is pretty chill. Look into him.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. You said Jesus is pretty chill looking at him.

[B]

Yeah, you can look into that, too. Jesus.

[A]

Do you think Jesus looks like the person everybody shows?

[B]

No, he was Jewish.

[C]

He looks Aramaic.

[B]

He's Aramaic. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think he looks like.

[C]

He was Aramaic.

[A]

Was that.

[C]

That's where he was from? Aramea.

[B]

It's like the desert, basically.

[C]

Like.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like Palestine, Israel, where that is right now.

[A]

Which all are Catholic.

[B]

Yeah, Catholic.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. That's because I went to a Catholic school, though, too.

[C]

Nice. How'd it go?

[A]

Yeah, great. I went to the cafe. It was great. But it was just a good school. For real, for. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep. And they got like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we went. I was just to go to, like, the Catholic church in school, growing up to school. It was like, a real good school. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

It's boring, huh?

[A]

Yeah, no, it was actually fun.

[C]

Oh, nice.

[B]

You like Catholic church? Yeah. Yep.

[A]

Yeah, the church was right next to the school.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know.

[C]

Yeah, we both went to Catholic school.

[B]

Yeah, we went there.

[A]

Yeah. Y' all went together?

[B]

No, just different ones.

[C]

Yeah, I'm from, like, Harrisburg.

[A]

Harrisburg. Oh, you close to the crib. Yeah, yeah. Here's break. Like, three hours.

[C]

Yeah, like, two.

[A]

Two.

[C]

Outside of Philly?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where are you from?

[B]

Delaware county, right outside Philly.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Right. How the.

[B]

I get out here just from doing comedy?

[C]

Yeah. We met in Philly, did stand up there and then moved down here. Yeah, yeah. And then he's Lancaster Jersey, and he's reading.

[A]

Yeah. You look like a football player. I used to live. I had lived in Delaware for a little bit, too.

[B]

Where?

[A]

Yeah, I don't even know.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I don't even know. I just. I got an apartment complex. I always check. I always. You know, I got kids, so I always try to live on the outskirts of Philly, though. Like, always, since they were born.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just started. I moved straight out of Philly, and I always stayed on the outskirts, but I lived in Delaware. I'm not sure exactly where in Delaware. Yeah. And I live on the Oscars right now, too. Is it Norris Town near Delaware?

[B]

No, no, Norris sounds like right outside of Philly. Delaware is like. Yeah, you go.

[A]

I come to Philly a lot, though. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Was there this week.

[A]

Yeah, I know. You did tell me that.

[C]

Yeah, it was. I love Philly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I love Philly.

[C]

Yeah, it's the best.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

As soon as I got back, I.

[B]

Was like, oh, does rule.

[C]

I want to move back.

[A]

You like Philly better than out here?

[C]

It's. I don't know. It just depends where I'm at. I always, like. I always want to be somewhere else.

[A]

And it depends on, like, what you're doing. So.

[B]

Yeah, I. I like here. I like. Because it's warm all the time. It's nice, and then it's just here I have little kids, and it's just. It's, like, safer, honestly, out here. Philly is crazy, man. I had my kids for the first couple years in Philly, and it was just like. It was fine, but there was just. Yeah, it's just like carjacking ever, you know? It's just annoying. Yeah, but. Yeah, man. Yeah, my. My wife moved from Chicago, and she was on Gerard Ave. And, like, day three of living there, some guy, like, two doors down from her got shot in his house. And it's just like, this gets old after.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. It's like, especially when you have little kids, you're like, yeah, that, man for sure. Well, nice, man. I don't want to. I don't want to keep you from your show.

[C]

Your show, bro.

[A]

Yeah, no, no. It was a blessing coming up here, though, bro.

[B]

Thanks for coming.

[A]

Appreciate it. Hey, I never thought I would make it up here before, ever. It's tough coming up here.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

It's a lot of traffic. Yeah. You guys are in a battle. Little traffic getting back down to the festival.

[A]

So it's a good podcast. Like, y' all could be interviewing, like, the presidents and, like, that.

[C]

We said no to that. Yeah, yeah, we said no to that.

[B]

Much rather talk to you, honestly.

[C]

We don't want politics on.

[B]

Yeah. Sorry, Pete Buttigieg, but you can't get onto the podcast.

[C]

Kamala was begging to get on.

[B]

No.

[C]

Kamala still wants on. I said no Kamala, but no, man.

[B]

Dude, I'm telling you, I've been talking about getting you on forever. I'm pumped.

[A]

Yeah. Now, every time I come out here, though. I'll tap in, though, all right?

[C]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

Without here, though, for sure, dude. You skateboard, too. We can go to the skate park, Work.

[A]

Yeah. It's skate parks out here.

[B]

Yeah, there's one right near my place.

[A]

Skateboard? Well, I always skateboard since a kid, but now I'm just now trying to get good, dude.

[B]

Yeah, we'll go. There's, like, a real skate park. They have, like, ramps and everything. It's pretty fun.

[A]

All right, all right. Bet what y' all is doing, though, the rest of the day?

[B]

Chilling. I gotta get home, watch my kids. Yeah.

[A]

Og. For real.

[B]

My wife's going to a church group. A church group, and I'm gonna watch my kids. I'm an OG man.

[A]

Yeah. Dang.

[B]

She only like women's night at the church. I might roll up while she's there, see what's good.

[C]

Check it on the women's group, check.

[B]

On the woman's group.

[C]

Present them with some sin Lost.

[A]

I don't got no dates coming up in Philly, though.

[B]

No, no, man.

[C]

I just did helium when I was home. If I'm home, I just do helium.

[A]

Yeah, that's cool. You do us in a blue.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I'm still putting my whole thing together for the year, so I'm going to try to make it down there for sure, because I just did Atlantic City, and I feel like a lot of people from Philly went down there, so I don't want to give them game.

[A]

Yeah, come see Kensington.

[B]

Dude, that'd be sick.

[C]

That'd be fun.

[B]

That would be actually a blast. I try to shoot my. For my first comedy special, I did an intro where I was just on Rollerblades around the city, and I. My idea was to go down Kensington Ave. And it was like. It was just so crowded that day. And we were filming, and I'm on Rollerblades, which people didn't like. No one bothered me. I was on the blades. But we had a camera guy in a trunk with a big camera. And that started getting a lot of attention. And then everyone was getting kind of like, I don't know. I don't know.

[C]

Oh, yeah, you don't want to be on camera.

[B]

But we. Did you see it? I'm up there and I'm on Rollerblades, and a guy just walks out and goes, boo. Like that to me, and I was like, Jesus. I was. Yeah, I was pretty. It was right at Kensington and Allegheny, and I kind of cut through the. Right through the intersection.

[A]

All right. Play the PlayStation or nothing, yo.

[C]

Yeah, Xbox.

[A]

Xbox. I see.

[C]

That's probably what I'm doing now. Just. I just got an Xbox. No, PlayStation.

[B]

You don't like Xbox?

[A]

No, I did, but I got on the PlayStation. PlayStation. Better fair play. Granddad photo. I got a big group. I got a big group.

[B]

Oh, really? So fun.

[A]

My PlayStation person is just like me. He got a skeleton face. He got a suit on right now.

[B]

Oh, hell yeah.

[A]

And he drive the same car I got.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I go back home. I go back to my regular life.

[B]

You got some pretty simple. Never get.

[C]

Never get a break from it.

[A]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[B]

Yeah. GTA rules, man.

[A]

Yeah, that's my. I wait for GTA 6 to come out.

[C]

Yeah, they've been waiting. Yeah, it's been a decade.

[A]

And they're gonna have six, seven on there, too.

[C]

It's gonna be Florida. Sick, isn't it? Florida? Oh, six sevens on it.

[B]

Yeah, it's awesome.

[C]

Yeah, that's gonna be cool.

[A]

Definitely gonna be me and my own person on there playing my own music. Yeah.

[C]

Gotta get an alligator. You got to talk to. Yeah, you gotta talk to Rockstar.

[B]

Get the.

[C]

Get your character and an alligator.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

When you gotta get Tran in the.

[B]

Game, do you keep it pretty chill on gta, or are you going nuts and, like, running people over and I'm killing everybody.

[C]

So you're the reason I can't play. I try to get on someone, just.

[A]

I get another notifications, and it's like, calm. It's like something like. Calm down. Like.

[C]

Yeah, like they're trying to take your draw.

[A]

Damn. What the. I just. I had just. I just had my show. I just had my.

[B]

Oh, you have your set list, right?

[A]

I just had. No, no, I just had a show. And who brought me out? NBA Youngboy brought me out.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[A]

Yeah, I just had a show. NBA Youngboy brought me out, and I pulled up, I brought a. I bought a 1940s, a 1946 Lincoln. Well, I just seen 1967 Lincoln. Competent comp. Yeah, that's. And I wear the suit. Yeah, I had a drop top. I'm gonna show you.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah, that was just tough.

[C]

Yeah, that's awesome.

[A]

Hey, the jack top, like. Oh, that's.

[B]

That's sick, dude.

[A]

Yeah, that was tough. Polo started in 1967. So all other. All the polo stuff.

[C]

Oh, that's tight.

[A]

Yeah. So I've been buying polo a lot lately.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Like, six, seven stuff.

[B]

Yeah. That is wild. I. I kept seeing that. Then I was like, I had to go back, and I'm like, I sounds so familiar. And I was like, oh, that's from your song.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Because some people don't know. Some people think it's from.

[A]

People don't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like most people don't. Yeah.

[B]

So I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to raise awareness to the Internet. And they give you cred for starting the global trend.

[A]

Nah. That's tough, though. It's a blessing just even hearing people screaming the words that came out of my mouth anyway.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Six, seven. All right.

[B]

Well, dude, thank you, man.

[C]

That's it.

[B]

Three.

[A]

We gotta do six, seven.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Two, three, six.

[B]

Bro.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

Nice to meet you, man.

[B]

You're great, man. Thank you for that. Watch new episodes of Matt and Shane's secret podcast on Spotify.

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