Ep 582 - Very Interesting

Summary

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Episode 582 – Very Interesting

Release Date: October 23, 2025
Hosts: Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis
Guests/Contributors: Lamar, occasional other voices

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Brief Overview

This episode captures the usual high-energy, meandering, and hilarious banter between comedians Matt McCusker and Shane Gillis, riffing on travel nightmares, casino winnings, wild rides with Uber drivers, culinary choices in Buffalo, art museums, activism, existential anxieties, historical oddities, and more. True to style, the guys mix observational comedy with personal anecdotes, sarcastic social commentary, and a healthy dose of absurdity.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Travel & Stand-up Life Woes

• Airport agony: Matt recounts a harrowing, sleep-deprived journey from LA to Buffalo ([00:08]–[03:28]).
• Old man flyer: He always arrives absurdly early at airports, a habit stemming from a traumatic late flight experience in Austin ([02:19]).
• "I have no middle ground." – Matt ([03:02])
• Spirit Airlines: They mock the misery of ultra-budget air travel describing the ordeal faced by Shane’s parents ([03:35]–[07:15]).

2. Casino Victory & Parental Dynamics

• Shane casually gives his dad $10,000 from a blackjack bender, only for his dad to unemotionally accept it ("Thanks" – Dad, [04:42]).
• Family at the tables: Post-show blackjack highlights, and the awkwardness of Shane borrowing back his own winnings from his dad, who disperses the money reluctantly ([05:21]–[05:56]).

3. Buffalo Stereotypes & Local Scent

• Honey Nut Cheerios: The General Mills smell and a hilarious Uber driver who assumes every city has its own cereal factory ([08:42]–[11:21]).
• Anecdotes about Buffalo’s gritty vibe: bloodstained sidewalks, rough bar staff, and quirky club-goers ([11:30]–[12:10]).

4. Culinary Choices and Buffalo 'Blasphemy'

• Curry Wings vs. Buffalo Wings: Matt faces local scorn for ordering gluten-free pizza and curry wings in Buffalo, defends the (delicious) choice, and Shane insists on sticking to classic Buffalo wings ([12:21]–[13:11]).
• The pair fondly recall epic chicken wing binges and MJ-like performances at local anchor bars ([13:15]–[14:14]).

5. Cultural Outings: Museums, Art, and Canadian Masters

• Matt visits the Buffalo Art Museum (AKG), learning about the Group of Seven, and interacts with over-eager art history guards, which prompts a pseudo-intellectual roast of modern art and gallery culture ([15:07]–[19:22]).
• Extended riff on "squiggly guys" (abstract modern artists) being secretly technically skilled ([18:11]–[19:22]).
• "Modern art—count me out." – Shane ([18:29])

6. Activism, Protest, and Viral Videos

• The 'No Kings' protest phenomena: They ridicule cringe protest methods, viral protest fails, and the shifting optics of activism ([22:36]–[24:09]).
• Generational Facebook chaos: AI pranks, geezers getting scammed, and fake ICE scares ([27:29]–[28:04]).

7. Existential and Historical Reflections

• Vietnam book club: Matt shares insights from a Vietnam memoir: brutal childhoods, naive patriotism, and the trauma of combat ([29:30]–[32:26]).
• Discussion of Ken Burns’ Vietnam series and musings about how history gives simple moral narratives ([32:56]–[33:38]).
• Native American land acknowledgments: Doubt, critique, and Venmo grifting ([33:34]–[35:18]).

8. Absurd and Wild Historical Facts

• Marco Polo and Free Use: Matt’s deep dive into a (possibly questionable) medieval Chinese tradition where guests would be offered the host’s wife and daughters ([35:23]–[38:43]).
• "Three days free use. For beads!" – Matt ([38:07])
• Shane draws parallels to Genghis Khan’s legendary promiscuity ([44:34]).

9. NBA and Sports Chatter

• Discussing NBA pregame fashion ("Now we're vampires"), Sixers hopes, Embiid’s health, and backup centers ([49:42]–[52:24]); shout-outs to fringe NBA tall stars (Zach Edie) and unfortunate photography angles ([52:41]–[55:44]).
• On being a sports fan: "Every year you go, dude, I think we're going to win it all." – Shane ([51:08])

10. The Emotional Toll of Comedy and Fame

• Raw discussion about the anxiety, melancholy, and social media weirdness that comes with comedy fame ([56:13]–[58:19]).
• "You have to be a psycho to enjoy it." – Matt ([58:02])
• Fantasy of sabbaticals, reinvention, and disappearing for a while.

11. Style and High Fashion Debates

• Stylists foist embarrassing "Paul Brother" outfits; tough lessons on fashions and the trauma of being roasted for clothing choices ([73:07]–[75:30]).
• "Millions will tease me." – Shane ([75:09])
• Observations on shifting Black fashion and NBA tunnel walk fits ([76:15]–[77:09]).

12. Looting, SNAP Cuts, and Social Media Dystopia

• With SNAP benefit cuts looming, they mock looting fever on TikTok, discuss protest looting ethics, and recall the 2020 chaos ([83:00]–[85:39]).
• "If you loot, grab me a couple things… just a case of water." – recounted from a viral video ([85:33]).

13. Demonology, Tech Billionaires, and AI Anxiety

• Alex Jones/Tucker Carlson territory: DMT, tech billionaires, and "demonic" AI entities giving sinister marching orders ([69:44]–[71:46]).
• "Eternal nerd." – Shane, on the idea of tech immortality ([71:44])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On airport trauma:

  • “I have no middle ground.” – Matt ([03:02])
  • “For some reason, I thought it was like a fake girl disease, dude. I got, for real, got motion sick.” – Matt ([67:21])

• Casino Stories:

  • "I gave him $10,000 in cash. He just goes, 'Thanks.' I was like, dude!" – Shane ([04:42])

• Buffalo Uber Driver’s Theory:

  • "He thought they make…They have a giant factory cereal factory? Just…just for Buffalo cereal." – Matt ([09:07])

• On Curry Wings:

  • "People are against my decisions for a gluten free pizza and curry wings, but." – Matt ([12:31])
  • "You know that's insane in Buffalo, dude." – Shane ([12:34])

• Marco Polo Cultural Facts:

  • "Back then...the more sexual partners your daughters had, the more desirable of a bride she would be. Damn, flipped the thing on the head!" – Matt ([36:52])

• On Modern Art:

  • "Modern art—count me out." – Shane ([18:29])
  • "It's alt comedy." – Matt ([19:30])

• Protest Fails:

  • “They’re crumping in front of the police. It’s so crazy.” – Shane ([23:58])

• Existential Comedy Melancholy:

  • "I hate it. I’ve been stricken down with the melancholy." – Shane ([56:41])
  • “It's a weird thing to complain about. Like, dude must be on cloud nine. Like, I'm deeply depressed right now.” – Matt ([57:30])

• On having opinions:

  • “I haven’t thought of anything new. I haven’t changed.” – Shane ([68:30])
  • “At the root of it, I go, I genuinely have no idea.” – Matt ([69:10])

• Black Fashion:

  • "Black guys have found out about Jinkos now... You guys have lost your way. If I'm being honest, as brothers." – Matt ([76:16])

• On tech billionaires and AI doom:

  • "Not. I'm not trying to come at Zuckerberg. You give that guy... two more thousand years and they're still going to be like, who the fuck is this nerd?" – Matt ([71:46])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Matt's LA-to-Buffalo travel nightmare: [00:08]–[03:28]
• Casino stories & family: [04:10]–[05:56]
• Uber driver and Buffalo cereal scent: [08:42]–[11:21]
• Buffalo food talk: [12:21]–[13:11]
• Buffalo Art Gallery/group of seven: [15:07]–[17:50]
• Modern art rant: [18:29]–[19:30]
• Vietnam war reflections: [29:30]–[32:26]
• Historical sexual customs in medieval China: [35:23]–[38:43]
• NBA/Sixers segment: [49:42]–[52:24]
• Public depression/anxieties of fame: [56:13]–[58:19]
• Fashion and stylist snafu: [73:07]–[75:30]
• Looting/SNAP panic: [83:00]–[85:36]
• AI, tech doom, and bullying immortal nerds: [69:44]–[72:24]

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Final Thoughts & Tone

"Ep 582 – Very Interesting" is packed with self-deprecating humor, deep-dive rants, authentic worries, and oddball trivia, artfully weaving together day-to-day realism with gleeful nonsense. It's a classic entry for fans, full of camaraderie, sharp asides, and raw honesty—making even the mundane or the tragic a source of comic gold.

NOTE: The episode flows as an unfiltered conversation, with interruptions, tangents, and callbacks—in classic Matt and Shane style. The tone blends earnestness, cynicism, absurdism, and affectionate ribbing.

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Transcript

[Matt]

The wild, wild west. Hello, hello, hello, hello.

[Shane]

How are you?

[Matt]

Good, how you doing?

[Shane]

I'm doing all right.

[Matt]

I'm. Jet lag, bro. I had a. I, I've. I had to fly from LA to Buffalo and I had to get up at 1:50am because I had to get on like a 5am flight. So I was like, damn, let me get there. Because every time I check traffic over there at night time, I'm like, damn. It takes an hour to get to the airport. Then I wake up and it's 22 minutes.

[Shane]

Sure, yeah.

[Matt]

So I wake up super early. And, dude, I get there and LAX is one of a few airports that doesn't run 24 7, like the ticketing and bagging everything. So I get there at like three, being like, I'll give myself two hours. It's Friday. It's, you know, it's a giant city. It's going to be. I thought it was a booming metropolis.

[Shane]

Insane.

[Matt]

Dude, I get there early, dude, because I didn't want to. If I missed it, I'm. I had to get all the way to beautiful Buffalo. I'd have been. I go, I fly like an old person. I get there two hours early.

[Shane]

Two hours early is crazy.

[Matt]

Oh, dude, I. That's like an hour early. In a smaller airport, I'm like. For some reason, I'm like, it's lax. There's going to be a million people. Dude, I get there, it's just six people. We're sitting in there and the guy. I was like, trying to do the ticket counter and the guy's like, yo, dude, you can't. You got to wait till like 4 o'. Clock. And I was like, 4 o'? Clock? My flight's at fucking 5:30. It only gives me an hour and a half.

[Shane]

It's crazy. So easy.

[Matt]

Oh, dude, I'm sitting there. So I had to wait till 4 o'. Clock. You had to wait till. And then everyone gets to do like the thing and put the bag. And then there's like, you go to the next level. I go up the escalator to go to the TSA Precheck, and there's just people standing there, like, get downstairs. You're not allowed to be up here. And I'm like, okay. So I'd ride the escalator back down. So now everyone's just waiting by the escalator and all, like, for like 20 minutes. You watch people, like, ride up and a couple like, hey, you can't. And they just ignore them and come back down as the ride of shame. So we. It was like. It was set up to get someone to spaz, dude. Because then we finally get to another place and we get to another checkpoint. Like, everybody wait here. We're not open yet. And it was just like, dude, what the. It was. It was. It was tough.

[Shane]

Insane to me, but I flew all.

[Matt]

The way to Buffalo and had to do two shows. That. And I was. So. I was up for like, three days. I basically, like, didn't sleep for a day. Yeah, I was. I was. I was jacked up.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Shane]

That's terrible.

[Matt]

It was bad.

[Shane]

Yes. You can't go to the airport that early.

[Matt]

I had to. That was. I had. In order to get on half. They got me to Buffalo by 3pm shows.

[Shane]

Well, that you had.

[Matt]

That's what I'm saying.

[Shane]

But I'm saying you don't have to get to the airport that early.

[Matt]

Dude. In la, it was. I thought there's gonna be.

[Shane]

You've flown so many times.

[Matt]

I know, but I.

[Shane]

Now you can get to the airport, like, 20 minutes.

[Matt]

I. Dude, I did this once and it backfired on me and I got so shook that I was like, never again. I had to go. I was in. I had to fly out of Austin. I was. I was late and I had like. I got there as the plane started boarding and it just so happened to be slammed. I had to go to the wheelchair line, beg my way in front of wheelchair people to be like, hey, man, yeah, I know you got your stitch going on. Sure, I'm running late. And they were like, yeah, for sure. They let me all go.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And I was like, never again. I felt. I don't like asking for stuff. I mean, like, having to ask a person, literally like four people in wheelchairs to be like, can I get in front of you? Was just a low point for me personally.

[Shane]

Sure.

[Matt]

Then I had a fight with a clear representative because they do two for one all the time.

[Shane]

But you got to find a middle ground. You can't. Don't be late. I have no middle ground. Two hours early.

[Matt]

I have no middle ground.

[Shane]

She plan on hitting the bar. I'm not averse to two hours at.

[Matt]

An airport, but that'd be fun.

[Shane]

That results in a rough day.

[Matt]

I just work. I. I just plug in my laptop and drink coffee and just work on my laptop. So I kind of like being there. I get. I get focused. But I also. If I dilly dally, I lose track of time easily. So if I go, I got time. I'll completely myself. So, yeah, I'M an early bird to the airport. I get there so early.

[Shane]

It's like my mom for real.

[Matt]

I know. My parents do it too. If they. If they ever fly, which they rarely do.

[Shane]

My parents flew Spirit this weekend.

[Matt]

Did they really?

[Shane]

They surprised me. Well, they thought it was a surprise.

[Matt]

Right. Right.

[Shane]

In Vegas. Which was crazy because they got there at like 10am on Saturday, which is when I was. I was like, we should hang out. But they didn't. They wanted to wait until I was watching the Notre Dame game to walk in. So they waited until like 4:30.

[Matt]

Got you.

[Shane]

And then I had a show. Like, I didn't even see him.

[Matt]

Oh, man.

[Shane]

I hung out with him. I watched football. I watched like the first half of the game with him.

[Matt]

And they were just there the whole time?

[Shane]

Yeah. But then. No, then we went and we played blackjack for a little after the show.

[Matt]

That's cool.

[Shane]

So the night before Friday, first time ever I've left the casino with chips. I won so much.

[Matt]

That's awesome.

[Shane]

Because I kept. I was tired as and I was trying to go to bed, so I just kept going all in on blackjack. And I did it like three times in a row and I won all three. And then I ended up with a lot of money. So you walked? Yeah, I had to walk eventually.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I have a nice rule of I'll never walk.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Until it's so.

[Matt]

You know, pot was.

[Shane]

Then you have to. But I. When my dad got there the next day, I handed him a wad of cash from. When I gave him 10 grand.

[Matt]

The winnings.

[Shane]

Yeah, I gave him $10,000 in cash. First off, when I hand it to him, he just goes, thanks. I was like, dude, you're such a piece of. You're such a piece of. I love this.

[Matt]

Pretending to be like, oh, my kid.

[Shane]

No, not even want. He just goes, thank you. I was like, dude, that's. I gave it to him. That was funny. So then after the show. After the show, we go play blackjack. But I didn't have time to go take out more money. So I was sitting next to my dad and I was like, dad, let me get some of that money. And he was like, now, hold on. I was like, dude, give me the money I just gave you. I'm not going to take all of it. So I. He gives me a little. I lose right away.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Cuz I go all in. Just lose. I was like, all right, a little more. He goes, okay. He's takes it out and he's peeling him off. He's such a dude. Give me like 100 bucks. He's an.

[Matt]

That's so funny.

[Shane]

Yeah, I'll give it to him. That was funny.

[Matt]

That's hilarious.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Shane]

10,000 in cash. Yeah, thanks.

[Matt]

Peeling the bill separately such real slowly.

[Shane]

And stopping to look at me. Keep peeling it, Taking one back, peeling one back into the pile.

[Matt]

He's very. From what I understand, he's a pretty methodical gambler, right? He's pretty disciplined and methodical.

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He hated watching me.

[Matt]

He doesn't like. Yeah, I've seen of me just being.

[Shane]

Like, I'm on, Shane. Come on, Shane. God damn it.

[Matt]

Now look at that. You lost. That's great.

[Shane]

Just great.

[Matt]

It's so funny, dude.

[Shane]

Yeah, it was. It was nice, though. It was nice having my mom. My mom and dad came.

[Matt]

That's fun.

[Shane]

But they flew Spirit and I was like. Was experience terrible?

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

It's like eight hours on a spirit airline.

[Matt]

So when you fly Spirit at Austin, you got to go to like a different whole side of the airport, which takes an extra 20 minutes to get to. I know flights that way. They'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm flying.

[Shane]

I think Frontier and Spirit are like a different dude.

[Matt]

It's a totally terminal it tax like 20 something minutes onto the trip. So it can sync you.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Luckily I. Yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

But they wouldn't let me upgrade their flight home.

[Matt]

What?

[Shane]

I don't know.

[Matt]

Dang.

[Shane]

I was like, guys, I can get you first class.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Because I wanted to. Not out of like.

[Matt]

Yeah, my parents are older.

[Shane]

It's like, yeah, for sure. I do like them in the back of Spirit. Just battling.

[Matt]

True. That is really. Sure.

[Shane]

I feel a Burger King crown.

[Matt]

The what?

[Shane]

I should have gotten the BK crown. You'd have no idea why. Just wear this.

[Matt]

So good, so good, so good.

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[Shane]

Yeah, it was. It was a good time.

[Matt]

It Is funny because a lot of older people are like, I hate flying. And they fly Spirit and like, see? Yeah, yeah. Brittany used to do. When we first met, she would. It wasn't Spirit. She'd do Southwest at like five in the morning every flight. I. I just thought that was like, the flight schedule. I'm like, damn, planes are early as hell, dude.

[Shane]

Those are like 6pm you can. You never have to fly at 5am I had. You do have to.

[Matt]

I had to get to the people.

[Shane]

Of Buffalo west east and stuff.

[Matt]

Yeah, that was. That was. Man, that me up big time, dude.

[Shane]

Gabe was at your show? Yeah, nice.

[Matt]

Gabe was there Saturday.

[Shane]

Nice.

[Matt]

That was good. I'm glad he went to. He went to a good one, the dude. When I left. So I left Buffalo. Beautiful Buffalo, New York, on Sunday morning. I got picked up by this Uber driver to go to the airport. The guy, you know, he was just like a normal guy. He's pretty funny. And I was like, damn, it smells so good. There's the General Mills factory. And I'm like, smells like Honey Nut Cheerios. He goes, dude, I just learned what that was. I've been here for a while because I. I picked this lady up from there. She was like, yeah, it's a cereal factory. That's why it smells good. He goes, right? And he's like. So I asked her like, so what do you make, like, all the cereals you guys make the cereal for, like, Buffalo? Do you ship it at somewhere else? And I was just like, did you thought they make. They have a giant factory cereal factory? Just. Just a Buffalo cereal.

[Shane]

Cereal. A lot of Cheerios.

[Matt]

It killed me.

[Shane]

That's so good.

[Matt]

That killed me, first of all. And then, so we keep driving because I do have my Happy to Chat feature.

[Shane]

Spread that out. Or is that just.

[Matt]

He thought it was just like, every city has their own serial.

[Shane]

It's like a video game. I know. Yeah.

[Matt]

So that cracked me up. I'm like, all right, all right. And then so I'm like, wonder what else this guy's up to. So we're chatting. He was just like, yeah, man, people are crazy. I always love telling Uber drivers, like, yeah, I should drive for Lyft. I kind of know the whole deal. And he was. So we get into, like, how, like, people treat you. And he was like, yeah, this one lady, man. He goes, I got to record everything now because fucking lady. I pick her up, I drive her, I drop her off. And then, like, you know, we talk just like this. We're talking the whole time. And. And I. I'm almost positive he had the words mixed up. He goes. And then she tries to file a complaint for sexual assault while we're talking, saying, like, I was like, you know, I sexually assaulted her. And I'm like, okay, I didn't, like, correct him at all. And he goes, dude, like, they have. I'm 4.98 stars. Like, they have my rating. I go back and forth, like, guys, you know, I never do this. I have a family. Blah, blah, blah. Then he looks at me, he goes, I mean, 15 years ago, maybe.

[Guest]

He.

[Matt]

Was about sexual harassment, sure. But him hitting me, like, 15 years.

[Shane]

Ago, I might have sexually assaulted that woman. I was wild back then. He was killing me.

[Matt]

He was the funniest dude I've ever met.

[Shane]

Back in 2010. I might have sexually assaulted before I.

[Matt]

Had a wife and kids. I mean, who knows? It's a bit of a wild child.

[Shane]

That's awesome.

[Matt]

Yeah, it was my favorite.

[Shane]

That was happy to chat. Must be devastating.

[Matt]

Happy to chat's the move.

[Shane]

It's chat for those guys. Must just be holy.

[Matt]

All right. This dude, he was. He was pushing me by my best stories. He pushed me to my limit, dude. He had. After. He kept talking. After he talked the entire time. But, dude, he. Those two gems are cracking me up. I'm like, damn, man. You guys, what's. What do you make all the cereal for Buffalo, dude? What the.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's literally. That's a child's brother brain. Every town must have a Cheerio factory.

[Matt]

And then I got. I got to the club, and I had ordered Ubereats, like, minutes before I could. So I wanted to time it so I can get it, go back and eat. And they dropped it off at the bar, and I. I go up and I'm like, hey. I asked the one person working there. I'm like, I think I have, like, food over there. Can I grab it? And he just like, you went to the bartender, like, hey, whatever her name was. And she just looked up and went, what? Rough and dumb. Buffalo. Buffalo. So rough and tough.

[Shane]

I love Buffalo.

[Matt]

It's awesome. There was a giant blood stain on the sidewalk outside of the club. O, like, on the block, block away. I kept. I walked past. Big Cheerio dispute. We're going to take all of your lucky charms into the town. Over. Over my dead body, punk. Yeah, Buffalo was so fun. I had. I had a blast. It had a good old time.

[Shane]

That's good.

[Matt]

It was nice.

[Shane]

Got some wings. Where'd you go?

[Matt]

Do you. Do you know Pizza plant That was the name of the place. Place ruled. Yeah. Yeah. People are against my decisions for a gluten free pizza and curry wings, but.

[Shane]

You know that's insane in Buffalo, dude.

[Matt]

You. I got the curry wings.

[Shane]

That's crazy.

[Matt]

Yeah, I was. Yeah.

[Shane]

You're not gonna believe it, but when I go to Buffalo, I put a hurting on chicken wings. It's crazy. It's crazy.

[Matt]

Dude, the curry wings, they were so good, man.

[Shane]

I don even branch off different flavors.

[Matt]

I just go straight up Buffalo.

[Shane]

I mean, I'm here for the original recipe.

[Matt]

I know, I know, I know. Well, you never see curried wings. I have buffalo every other time.

[Shane]

Yeah, but not the buffalo.

[Matt]

It's.

[Shane]

It's mom's gravy.

[Matt]

I'll be back.

[Shane]

It's the gravy Sunday.

[Matt]

Gravy.

[Shane]

It's the perfect Sunday.

[Matt]

I'll be back. Obviously I'll be back to Buffalo. So I. I'll avenge my. But damn those curried wings.

[Shane]

Never leaving Buffalo, dude. Dude, I'll never leave Buffalo.

[Matt]

Buffalo rules.

[Shane]

That was my actual. That was my argument against the Saudis.

[Matt]

What?

[Shane]

When they were like, why don't you go do this thing? I was like, I'm gonna go to Buffalo. All right. I'm a ria. I don't go to Buffalo. Buffalo rules.

[Matt]

I was joking because it kind of looks like the Middle east over. It's bombed out.

[Shane]

They bombed it out a little.

[Matt]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

When you walk around, were you what? I know what hotel.

[Matt]

You're at the height. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was. You walk a lot of buildings there.

[Shane]

Yeah, bombed, bro.

[Matt]

It was crazy. But Buffalo is crushing it, man. I was there every night.

[Shane]

It was fun.

[Matt]

I love it.

[Shane]

Me and Lamise had an all time night there.

[Matt]

Oh yeah, that was.

[Shane]

That was Buffalo, babe.

[Matt]

Dude, Sassy. What's that?

[Shane]

I said it was Sass and lil Sass.

[Matt]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lamar]

We put a hurting on some wings at the Anka bar.

[Shane]

We did.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I think I probably had 30. It's crazy the numbers I put up in Buffalo. I'm like MJ at the Garden, dude, you get me the anchor bar, I'm dropping 80, dude.

[Matt]

Yeah. That pizza plan was fired up, man. It was good as hell. It's right next to. It was literally I was like walking trying to find it. I walked outside. It's just attached to the hotel. I did like spun the block like a being like it's so close.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Walked around like I could just walk through the hotel and found the pizza plant.

[Shane]

Pizza plant would have been nice.

[Matt]

Pizza plant was Good dude. They had one of those gluten free pizzas that's like the. Some of they've made like technological leaps and gluten free pizza where I swear to God it's almost as good Pizza plant hit me with like a classic Gen one. Yeah. Dry and I. I like that for some weird reason. I like a dry crackery crust. And again the regular pizza is probably sick as hell. But yeah, I was there with my friend. I have a friend from Canada who came down to visit me and I was. Dude, I was. I was so exhausted. And he was like, I'll meet you at 9am I was like, no shot. I was like, I'm sleeping. I was like, I'll hit you up at 10:10am I wake up, he's like I'm outside. I was like, you damn. So it was cool. We went to the art museum.

[Shane]

You went to the Buffalo Art Museum?

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Finger painting. The are they doing with art?

[Matt]

You must not have seen the akg. They had all the. They had the. What is it called? There's a seven. I learned about seven Canadian masters called like the Great seven or something. They just draw like snowy trees. It was awesome.

[Shane]

The Canadian masters I didn't do.

[Matt]

There's seven Canadian masters called the Great Seven. Look them up, guys. Look up the. I kept calling them the wrong names. My. My friend's like a art dealer.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

So he got. Kept being like, so what about the Big Seven? He's like, do not call the Big Seven.

[Shane]

Stop saying it's the Big Seven. Now say you know it's the Big Seven.

[Matt]

They were just your all snowy ass. What do they call the Great Seven? The League of Seven or something? Group of Seven. Group of Seven. That's it.

[Shane]

The Group of Seven.

[Matt]

Were they all drew snowy trees?

[Shane]

They all French?

[Matt]

I mean pretty much French Canadian, I think. Yeah.

[Shane]

Well obviously it's hard to.

[Matt]

They're not telling me. Yeah, let's take a look. You gotta go to the AKG they have. They don't have French names from what I could tell. Yeah, they had like. Some of them were like MacArthur. Yeah. Some Scots over there drawing the snowy trees. Barley. I will say the. I didn't realize that people. I mean it's kind of dumb but the people in museums like the people stand there like the black like black shirts and I thought they're just security guards, bro. They're all like art history majors. Yeah. They would like horn in be like you guys have any questions? And they're like not really. Unless there's something you want to say? And the lady, she would have talked for an hour and a half.

[Shane]

Yeah. Art history degrees get you. You basically are like a palace guard in England.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

To just stand at attention all day, and then somebody comes in. This sucks, dude. I got to take a. God damn it.

[Matt]

Yeah, she was, like, talking about this one person were like, this painting. This is like the house that he built. And if you look this way, that view of a river is what he would see outside of his house. And I'm like, damn, you guys are going crazy on this. I breezed through in two seconds.

[Shane]

I don't believe you.

[Matt]

Cool. Cool.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Nice. I'm out. But, yeah, they were. They were getting into it.

[Shane]

Now. When the art people start talking to me, I go, I literally. I don't believe you. Did he tell you that? I don't think that's true. I don't think he saw that.

[Matt]

You should just start being like, I actually heard that he had French lineage. I thought he had French lineage. I thought it was more like realistic surrealism, I thought. Yeah.

[Shane]

Did you know he was gay?

[Matt]

Like, what do you know about Salvador Dali?

[Shane]

I'm more of a dolly guy.

[Matt]

It's cool. I also. What I did learn, though, because a lot of those guys, you see some paintings where you're like. You see one that's like a. Like a hyper realistic portrait that someone painted, and I'm like, yeah. I'm like, that's amazing. And then you get a guy who's like, super squiggly. Who's the guy who does the screen painting? Mooch or something. His name is. I learned.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Matt]

I thought it was Van Gogh the whole time. This guy Mook or something. Yeah, he did the screen painting. And I'm looking at his other paintings. I'm like, a lot of them are just swirly, crazy stuff. And I'm like, dude, if I was a guy who did this and I'm seeing this, I'd be like, what the. But apparently, those guys can do that. They get bored, and then they're like, they want to do some weird, nice other. I learned that because I. All my whole life, I was like, dude, you got these guys just masquerading around. I'm like, I'd love to do that.

[Shane]

Squiggly guys.

[Matt]

Squiggly guys. But my friend was like, no, dude, he's a master technique. He could do that if he wants. But this is his. How he, you know, chose to spend his later years. It's like, let me see some.

[Shane]

All that dude Let me see some proof. There's a guy who does like, blue. Just rectangles.

[Matt]

Yeah. That. The modern art. Modern art. Count me out itself.

[Shane]

I've been in the moment so many times, and every time I go, I get angry.

[Matt]

Nah, man.

[Shane]

You walk in, it's like a TV screen of a woman screaming.

[Matt]

Dude, that pisses me off.

[Shane]

Is this.

[Matt]

They've gotten into some wild stuff. I will say. Yeah, that stuff.

[Shane]

I have no starry nights in there. And that's.

[Matt]

That's nice to look at starry nights to see yourself. I. I saw there was this lady, she's a Japanese woman. She had like one of those immersive installations where she apparently started hallucinating polka dots everywhere. So she would paint these rooms and you walk in and it sounds so dumb, but they're just tiny dots and big dots and it. That was kind of cool, but nice. It's like, I don't know. Yeah. I can't get behind the thing of a guy on a VCR being like, stop right there. Stop right there. And you're like, that's. I could have done that in five stinks. That pissed me off. Yeah, but there's. Yeah, there's a guy who like attached fluorescent lights together. They're like, this was actually Beat the.

[Shane]

Outfit.

[Matt]

Especially again, like, dude, the people who paint like a beautiful waterfall or like.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's alt comedy.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Do chomp or whatever. That's old comedy, dude. Like, I could do comedy, but I'm just gonna do like, making fun of comedy.

[Matt]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

Shut up, dork. I've never seen you do comedy once.

[Matt]

Yeah, Paint a waterfall.

[Shane]

Show me a waterfall. Hump the stool.

[Matt]

Yeah, the. But that was cool. I. It was. It was fun to do. And then I ate my. I. I punished my friend by giving him curry wings. I'm like, all right, dude.

[Shane]

Yeah, you want to take me to Buffalo Art Museum now?

[Matt]

I.

[Shane]

A little home and home. Now you're on my court game two. Curry wings.

[Matt]

Yeah, it was really. He's actually. He's a really funny guy. He gave the waitress came out like, how's the pizza? He goes, it's actually horrible. The.

[Shane]

This gluten free crust is art snob, dude.

[Matt]

He was cracking me up. Shout out, Ray.

[Shane]

It's a beast.

[Matt]

Nice. I had a good time, man. I had a fun old time. I was done. I think I'm done. My stupid podcast tour. That was. It's exhausting, dude.

[Shane]

Yeah, it sucks.

[Matt]

Stinks big time. But I had fun. Had a good time doing that repeating Yourself, especially towards the end of it.

[Shane]

You get like, repeat the same stories.

[Matt]

It's repeating the same thing. And you're like, well, let me tell you about you. It's a. You've heard the question 100 times. You're like, let me tell you. Start feeling like a politician. Yeah, I started hitting. I should have hit him with the Gavin Newsome. Just being like, that's interesting. That's. That's really interesting. Did you see that clip?

[Shane]

Yeah, I've seen a lot of Gavin.

[Matt]

That's my favorite Gavin. What was he trying to get at?

[Shane]

I don't even.

[Matt]

Like, they asked him about apac, I guess, and he went, huh, that's interesting. You bring.

[Shane]

Yeah, he's like, I don't know anything about that. He was basically like, I don't know what that is.

[Matt]

But that dog. What are you talking about? But that. But that's interesting. That's. Well, that's very interesting. You bring that up.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Dude, what are you doing?

[Shane]

It's nice defense. I'm very interested in that.

[Matt]

I thought. I thought he was being like, what are you up to? I think it's like, oh, wow, okay.

[Shane]

It's an interesting point. Apac. I don't think I've heard of that. I've dealt with other packs, but I don't know about apec.

[Matt]

It is funny, though, if your job is to be full of all the time and you just finally bomb it. Being full of. You're like, I can't. My brain's farting out of me. I usually have, like, a cool way to maneuver around. This is going funny. You asked me about what in his head.

[Shane]

In his head.

[Matt]

Just Jewish guys. Really?

[Shane]

Alarms going off. Come on, Gavin, pull out of this.

[Matt]

Talk about infrastructure. They're Jewish, right? That's it. Are they interesting? Huh? Oh, yeah.

[Shane]

Well, that is interesting.

[Matt]

I never.

[Shane]

Jewish. Yeah, I guess I have heard of that.

[Matt]

Your little earpiece is like, just static. Help.

[Shane]

Pull up, Pull up.

[Matt]

Yeah, that's very. No. Interesting. You'd ask me about this, like, turning the tables. Unsuccessfully.

[Shane]

The Trump Dog, though, hit it with the.

[Matt]

Why you guys still.

[Shane]

You guys are obsessed.

[Matt]

I know, I know.

[Shane]

Do you get to watch any of the no Kings protest highlights?

[Matt]

I caught a little bit.

[Shane]

I went into a nice little algorithm. It's crazy.

[Matt]

I had X. I had X on the way home, and I was. I was on there watching the no King stuff. It was.

[Shane]

You see the guy get his glasses stolen?

[Matt]

No.

[Shane]

And fall.

[Matt]

No. From what I understood, it was.

[Shane]

Took the most brutal fall.

[Matt]

No.

[Shane]

Ass up Snatched his glasses. Some fucking liberal punk dude.

[Matt]

Wait, so a liberal punk snatched geezer.

[Shane]

Two geezers are walking by, kind of talking shit.

[Matt]

Oh.

[Shane]

Being like, whatever, you fucking queers fog you. And then somebody rips his glasses and he tries to chase him. Falls, dude falls straight to ass up, face down, ass up. Forced devastating fall.

[Matt]

I might have just been getting propagandized through Twitter, but it was really that my algorithm was kind of presenting it to me as an epic liberal failure. Going to like white people in a poor neighborhoods and being like, no kings. No. And everyone there being like, get the fuck out.

[Shane]

Yeah. It was all very embarrassing. They're trying to hit the old, the playbook.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Last time. Which even now is like embarrassing to look at the what, like, like BLM around there.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Those types of protests. When you see footage of it now, you're like, damn, that's so embarrassing.

[Matt]

Yeah, for sure.

[Shane]

Like standing in front of cops like, yeah. It's like you look like a doofus. Yeah.

[Matt]

You truly do. Yeah.

[Shane]

One of those people. Was it crumping? It's the worst video you've ever seen in your life. Dude, they're crumping in front of the police. It's so crazy.

[Matt]

The thing I caught that was making me laugh was when they did, they did the no kings extension into London and they did like, they did like people in England were like, no kings. And then they, I don't know if this is true or not, but they're saying they had to alter it to like no tyrants for our people that do live under monarch, you know, monarchy led systems. Which is just like funny to watch it kind of unravel into nonsense.

[Shane]

Yeah. Instantly.

[Matt]

Yeah, but that's, I mean, I don't know. It's my thing is, is like, dude, I don't live there. So like what do you think about the National Guard being deployed in like, I don't, I don't live there. Yeah, depends. You know, if I was there and I was having a tough time, I'd be like, okay, cool.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

If I was there and I didn't want them to be there, I'd be like, there was a kid who like did a viral Instagram like putting on the shy scene, being like, the cartels put out 25000 hits on federal agents head and they immediately like pulled his account up and he's like, this is. Yeah, I don't know man. I, I, yeah, I don't, I don't know. I, I mean it's interesting you bring this up actually.

[Shane]

You don't have to talk. You don't have to give any opinion.

[Matt]

No, I. I like the videos of people walking around just for some reason, praising the National Guard. That's been my instinct.

[Shane]

Praising the Guard.

[Matt]

Yeah. Well, I've been seeing a lot of old black guys being like, yeah, this is nice. I'm like, cool. That's right.

[Shane]

That's a good algo.

[Matt]

Yeah, it's good. That's my algo right now. I'm like, what are you talking about? People love it there.

[Shane]

Yeah. If they're stopping and asking for people's papers, that's not great.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

What kind of pain if there's a lot of murders that.

[Matt]

Well, that's. I was thinking about that on the plane home. I'm like, it is kind of crazy to accept that as, like, okay, in any part of America, if there's that many murders. Yeah. To be like, well, that's none of your business. It's like, that should be kind of unacceptable in America. Like, they should take extreme action.

[Shane]

I always thought that when I'd watch, like, a horror movie, you know, and like, Michael Myers goes around and kills, like, 15 people, you can bring in the National Guard. Why do we have two cops? Bring in the military. This happens every fucking Halloween.

[Matt]

A bunch of high school whores is up to a bunch of high school whores.

[Shane]

Hot fucking high school slots. Yeah, bring in the National Guard, dude.

[Matt]

Yeah. That was my Halloween. That was my big take on the airport. I was like, it is. Shouldn't let. You shouldn't let anywhere get. Because they called it a state of emergency in Chester, Pennsylvania, like, years and years ago. Got so bad that I think they brought in. I think just state police. They were like, all right, we're just posting police up everywhere because this is. Everyone's getting shot. Like, the stop signs there were, like, riddled with bullet holes. It was bad. So I don't know. Yeah, that's my thing. I don't really live there. It's none of my business. If personally, if I saw the National Guard outside my house, I would walk up and say, thank you for your service.

[Shane]

I'd say, dude.

[Matt]

And they say, yeah, your dog can't be out here without a leash. I'd be like, no kings.

[Shane]

No kings.

[Matt]

Show me that in the Constitution. No tyrants.

[Shane]

Going to like those highlight videos. It's just old people, like, singing, making up songs about no kings. It's very good.

[Matt]

It. Yeah. Getting in. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Being 55 and being like, finally, I'm standing Up for black American. Like, oh, good, man. That's good. You've had a lifetime to do so.

[Shane]

Yeah. Yeah. Where were you in the 60s?

[Matt]

That's it. Yeah.

[Lamar]

Dude.

[Matt]

The geezers are getting crushed on Facebook. They just scroll the Facebook and just get their hard drives completely wiped.

[Shane]

AI's got to be truly destroying the geezers.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Because it's getting to the point where I'm like, a bear is jumping on a trampoline. They got it on a ring camera.

[Matt]

Holy.

[Shane]

Geezers must be getting popped by that.

[Matt]

My brother was setting up, trying to set my dad up to make him think ICE agents were in the driveway.

[Shane]

That's a good prank.

[Matt]

You could crush my dad with that.

[Shane]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt]

So easy. I haven't got the feedback on. I don't know if he pulled the trigger on it yet, but he's been battling my dad.

[Shane]

Yeah. Billy was saying he was calling your dad a dem.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

It's nice.

[Matt]

I know. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane]

That's a tough insult, bro. Crushes the geezers, crushes me. Somebody hits you with a damn.

[Matt]

You know. Damn.

[Shane]

That sucks.

[Matt]

Yeah. We talked about last week. We both got damned.

[Shane]

Yeah, We've been down before.

[Matt]

I'm waiting for the next no Kings, bro. I might go down there. Now that I. Now that I've said it, I think I made a full 180. I'm completely on the no Kings.

[Shane]

No Kings.

[Matt]

Yeah. I'm gonna go down. No Kings.

[Shane]

James would be down there. Pro Kings.

[Matt]

True. He loves James.

[Shane]

Loves Kings. You might need a king, dude. My bad. I'm struck with a terrible illness. You're sick, upper respiratory, Some type of cold.

[Matt]

Oh, man.

[Shane]

It's just a cold.

[Matt]

But still stinks, man. How long. How long have you had it? That's the question. It.

[Shane]

It started like a week ago. About a week ago. Couple days ago. And then it just developed into something bad. At first it was. It was very mild.

[Matt]

Shame it didn't stay in Vegas.

[Shane]

When I was having fun drinking and partying, the cold was dormant.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Second I started relaxing and jumped in.

[Matt]

That's interesting.

[Shane]

It is interesting. Maybe I should have a drink.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I was having a hoot in Vegas. Were you really?

[Matt]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane]

The chain smokers came to my show and then they're like, do you want to introduce us at our DJ show tonight? And I was like, yes.

[Matt]

Yeah, that's.

[Shane]

On stage at like a rave. I was like, las Vegas. Are you guys ready? It's so embarrassing, dude.

[Matt]

I've been dug in. All I do is I read my book about Vietnam, right now, the Vietnam stuff. Vietnam Purchase book. Dude, it's. It's insane. Just the childhood people had back in the 60s and like, early 50s is like, you just grow up and just. Your dad would just beat the living out of you. And then you would like. Yeah, the way he explained it was really funny because it's like you have a beer. So you grow up as being like, go to church every day. You're like, I love this country so much. You do atomic bomb drills under your desk. And then you're like, dude, I can't wait to go to war. I want to go to war so bad. And they like, dude, the one kid, the junior year, he's like, yeah, me and my friend just like left and went to California for an entire summer. Just didn't tell our parents came back and they were like, dude, we got hookers in Tijuana. It was sick. And then next thing he knows, he's going to boot camp and he's just thinking like, dude, everyone's gonna be so stoked. They're gonna high five me and Gary. I'll your mother you. And he's like, dude, I was just terrified. And next thing I know, I was in the Vietnam jungle just being like, what the is this? Yeah. I didn't know there was urban warfare too in Vietnam. Of course I didn't know that. I thought it was all just in like, the. Like the rice paddies in the marshes and. And they really, really didn't know who the they were fighting against, kind of.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

He's like, anyone could have been a suspect at any time. You just do like, regularly, like. Yeah. Run to the store and you just drive a jeep and someone. Your guys. The guy next to his head would blow off from a sniper. And you just look like you. There's no. There's just kids and around.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

It was up. And they talk about just like going through and just eventually just napalming those little hamlets. And they're like. Because you got so spun out from the whole thing. Yeah. Then you're there and they're like, yeah, you know this worst, right? You'd be like, what. What are you talking about? It was. It's crazy, man. I was hit.

[Shane]

That cam burns. Check it came burns. Vietnam.

[Lamar]

It's.

[Shane]

It's awesome.

[Matt]

I'll check it out. The blue. The memoir is nice because it's very personal.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

It's funny getting to like. No, no.

[Shane]

This gives you, like, the Cameroons one is. Is very personal.

[Matt]

Really?

[Shane]

It's like a bunch of different People's stories.

[Guest]

Oh.

[Shane]

And then the overall history of it. But, like, it's just guys, personal stories. And a lot of them are like, I grew up all American, like, wanted to help the country. Because these guys are all Post World War II, their parents. World World War II.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

So they were all like, we're the. We're the good guys. Then they get to Vietnam and find out that they're the bad guys.

[Matt]

Yeah, kind of.

[Shane]

Well, yeah, again, dude. Kind of.

[Matt]

Yeah. I mean, dude. Especially if. Yeah. Like he would. In this memoir. It's like. And then this guy showed up and you. Like, the guy gets to know that guy and just out of. It's like out of nowhere. Steps on a mine, the guy explodes.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

It's crazy. And then it's. Yeah, yeah. It was just. It sucked too, because all the guys go. They're like, I want some action. Send me out there. And it's just like.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's the worst.

[Matt]

He just gets like a Russian missile where the. They get that.

[Shane]

Go into a tunnel with a flashlight.

[Matt]

Yeah. It's like midnight, dude. You have to walk at midnight just to go, like, scout a location. Do they. Like. You would just see tracer bullets, like, whizzing around. Yeah. All night when you're trying to sleep. It's just things exploding constantly. It's terrible. The Vietnam, per Casey book, is awesome.

[Shane]

I'll check it out.

[Matt]

That's all. I just. Dude, I just. At night, I just get to my bed at like 9pm and I'm just in war, dude. My wife's trying to come over to my chili pad. I'm like, not right now, dude. I'm dug in right now. We're on a five. I'm in the. We're in a five man scouting mission right now.

[Shane]

Woman. Give me a second.

[Matt]

But yeah, it's a pretty brutal stuff. Yeah.

[Shane]

Vietnam sucked.

[Matt]

Yeah. If I ever see a Vietnam vet again, I'm definitely gonna give him a big high five pat on the butt.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

It's tough stuff. Oh. If he wants me to, obviously.

[Shane]

But I talked about it before. They do the same thing with that where they're like, the Vietnamese were. But it's. They never really cover the Vietnamese atrocities.

[Matt]

Yeah. I kind of want to read it.

[Shane]

They were up to no good.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Dude, they interview a lot of the Viet Cong in the Ken Burns.

[Matt]

Oh, really?

[Shane]

It's pretty cool.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Matt]

I kind of wanted that side of.

[Shane]

Things too, but I was just watching a. Every, like every historical thing I watch about Native Americans. They're like, they were proud warrior people that fought for their land and did it. And then they're like, and the white man was evil and only thought about war. It's like, wait, you just worded it different. I know, because they. You just said they took their land and dominated.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Anyway.

[Matt]

No, exactly. It's their hunter.

[Shane]

I don't know why they do that.

[Matt]

Pretty much hunter gatherers, I think it's just. Yeah. If you come out and you're like, they're pretty. As soon as you start the discussion, everyone's just kind of like, bro, this is not what we're doing right now. Yeah, yeah, I did. I did a deep dive into kind of, like, land acknowledgments. Just curious, like, did Native Americans, like, really even give a. Or is this just like.

[Shane]

I met a couple that did.

[Matt]

Really? Yeah, I, I. Mike, I wouldn't. Again, I'm reading, like, a Reddit thread. But, like, some of them were like, no, they're just kind of laughable. Yeah, they're like, the idea of even owning land was, like, foreign to us. We don't even. It's like, the lands. Our mother. Blah, blah, blah.

[Shane]

They can miss me with that, too. They took over the land. They drove other tribes off the land. The.

[Matt]

Oh, it's Mommy, dude.

[Shane]

Yeah. Get off my mama.

[Matt]

Get off my mama. Your mama's over there. This is my mama over here.

[Shane]

Your mama's up north. Now you have to live in the snow.

[Matt]

But, yeah, I was, like, reading it, and there was. But the whole thing, though, it all boils down to, like, if you're gonna do. It's a land acknowledgment is just, like, the tip of the iceberg. What you're supposed to do is do, like, a land acknowledgment that then dovetails into, like. And also, I talk to the people myself. And then it all boils down to, like, they have a Venmo. If you really, like, you're supposed to, like, send cash their way after the land acknowledgment, which I was just kind of like, okay, there we go. There you go. Yeah, there's the bottom.

[Shane]

If you want to do a true.

[Matt]

Blue land acknowledgment, you have to, like, first of all, I think you're supposed to, like, be in talks with the people. I think it's not enough for you to be like, this land was actually.

[Shane]

The great outdoors one in Canada brings. It's like, they bring somebody from the tribe.

[Matt]

Really?

[Shane]

You do a land acknowledgment and then you have to talk to them. After they gave me a nice thing of beads. Oh, like a. A sash.

[Matt]

That's nice.

[Shane]

Pretty sick.

[Matt]

That's really cool. Yeah, I like that. Where are they?

[Shane]

It's in my room.

[Matt]

Nice.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Dude. Speaking of beads, I recently I tried about. I tried to do a joke about this, but nobody. No one's having it at all. Did I tell you about the Chinese and like, the medieval China tradition? And in like, southern China, where Marco Polo found out that, like, in certain provinces, if you were a guest of a Chinese household, you would be urged by the husband to have sex with his wife and all of his daughters.

[Shane]

Yes, you told me about this, dude.

[Matt]

I didn't. I. I thought it was just like his wife. It's the all. They would leave for three days. I did more investigations into this.

[Shane]

Well, the hottest tradition you've ever heard. Yeah, I'm sure you did some. The real deep dive.

[Matt]

Well, I looked it up the one time I like, stumbled upon it. I just, like, stumbled upon the information. I swear to God. They were like. You would have to like. It was like. I mean, this is why I don't think it works on stage, because it's tough to phrase it, but it's like they said originally, like, the wife would choose if she wanted to have sex with you. Then I looked back into it and grok was like, dude, yeah, right. But, but, but it's. It goes deeper than that, though, because apparently back then in certain provinces, the more sexual partners your daughters had, the more desirable of a bride she would be. Damn flipped the thing on the head. So, like, you would like Marco Polo, whoever. Which, by the way, Marco Polo stayed there for 17 years. Go figure. And then. But you'd have to present them with a small gift, like a bead or something. That's what. That's why you reminded me. And then on your. On your wedding day, on your wedding night, your bride would hit you with all of her little sex gifts. And the more you saw, you'd be like, yes. So as a father, it was the opposite. You wanted your wife to. You're one of your. Well, your wife, but also your daughters have as many sexual partners as possible. Because then it was like she was experienced and she'd make a better bread. It was like tied to some weird fertility cult stuff from like, way back in the day. So I think. And then. But I think in another part of China, they were like, we are not down with that.

[Shane]

They needed. Christ, dude.

[Matt]

I think it for.

[Shane]

Yeah, dude, Marco should have Been like, here's the real deal.

[Matt]

I think Marco is like, let me get to the. I am a travel writer.

[Shane]

I'm a travel writer. After all, He's Bourdain.

[Matt]

Yeah. I didn't realize he was there for 17 years. He's in China forever.

[Shane]

I didn't know he was there that long.

[Matt]

Yeah, dude. Because he wrote a whole book where he talks about like, you know, his. All of his adventures and. Yeah. People. Then people get like, oh, that's just him romanticizing. But it's like, dude, I don't know. Why would he. That'd be a crazy tall.

[Shane]

Getting hit with the gifts on the wedding night would be like, oh, yeah.

[Matt]

But it was. That was their whole Damn. That was the world where you'd be like, this is sick. So that's.

[Shane]

Of course.

[Matt]

So it wasn't even like. It was like, imagine like your. Your dad would be like, oh, here comes a traveler, some filthy Italian guy and just go here, come into my house. The dad would walk, just leave for three days. And it was. I don't mind. I'm being respectful. It was free use.

[Shane]

Don't get me started.

[Matt]

For three days. Asian free use with a whole Chinese family.

[Shane]

You're talking Chinese moms and daughters. Freeze.

[Matt]

Yes, dude. For beads. For beads.

[Shane]

For beats.

[Matt]

And then the. The women of the house would hang a hat on the door. So that. That was like the father would like walk by the door and see the hat on and be like, sick. And then just walk. Just leave for two more days. And then finally the hat would be gone after like three, four days. And he would come back to his house and be like, hey, guys.

[Shane]

Hey.

[Matt]

Wild.

[Shane]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Matt]

Isn't that wild?

[Shane]

Sure. How do you not have other people's kids?

[Matt]

I don't know. Maybe. Maybe that's where apparently this was. And again, this is all Internet stuff. They said it was more so the Uyghurs. So maybe that's why those Uyghurs are so light skinned. So, yeah, pretty wild. Wild and crazy stuff.

[Shane]

They didn't say put it on the wigs.

[Matt]

Well, they were like that. It was some of that area.

[Shane]

We just went from that to Islam. I mean, that'll bring you to Islam again.

[Matt]

This is all like, very, you know.

[Shane]

Not the deepest stuff.

[Matt]

It was only in certain.

[Shane]

It sounds like this hippie mumbo jumbo.

[Matt]

It's not hippie bubble jump, dude. Marco Polo is like, there is no.

[Shane]

I know that. But I'm saying like when they're like in. Back in early civilization, Women ruled and we had sex with everyone and sexuality was made up.

[Matt]

No, they're pretty clear. They were like, this was not up to women.

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt]

But I know what you mean.

[Shane]

You're like, multiple partners is totally exciting.

[Matt]

I've heard that where there's like that.

[Shane]

Poly dude, people will hit that.

[Matt]

Like, you know, there actually were women led societies, blah, blah. And it's like whenever you go, okay, give me one. Name one. Name one. It's. Well, it's well documented.

[Shane]

It's well documented. There was certain tribes where the men did the cooking and women hunted.

[Matt]

Women hunted buffalo and just guys like season three of True or season four, True Detective. Yeah, I've. I've heard that. I have read people that say like that, like, way, way, way back before agriculture, there were. Or maybe during the beginning of agriculture, there were female. Like, where they were just like, well, that's where babies come from. These guys are the rulers. But. But then I think it was like the desert people were more patriarchal.

[Shane]

This is all made up.

[Matt]

Take it up with your.

[Shane]

Before agriculture, you're talking about what societies were like, they have no idea.

[Matt]

Take it up with Joseph Campbell.

[Shane]

I'll punch Joseph Campbell. I'm gonna punch him.

[Matt]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Shane]

I want to hear one person tell me about anything pre agriculture.

[Matt]

Dude, I don't know.

[Shane]

I don't know how it's made up.

[Matt]

Yeah, that's a fair point.

[Shane]

Fully made up.

[Matt]

That's a fair point. I don't know, though, dude, because, like, we knew, like, we don't know. We knew, like, the. What The Greeks and the Jews were all patriarchy. That's way after agriculture, so that's way after ag. Yeah, yeah. I don't know.

[Shane]

After.

[Matt]

Yeah, true. That was a lot.

[Shane]

Buildings and.

[Matt]

Yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Shane]

No, pre agriculture is.

[Matt]

Sean, look up, look up. Women led societies in the dawn of civilization.

[Shane]

Oh, there's gonna be a lot. You want to find a lot of lies.

[Matt]

I want to see how they prove it, though. That's what I'm curious about. I'll keep looking it up, but they had a bunch that I, you know, I never heard of none of that stuff before. Like, who. Let me see. Iroquois tribes, the Mosu in China, a certain. How do they work societies? So the girls would be like, here's what we're doing. Or like, how do they really hold that down? I think it's different in, like.

[Shane]

Yeah, I'd like to hear about the Iroquois clan.

[Matt]

Mothers were in the Iroquois Apparently. And they appointed or removed male chiefs. So, like, I guess they had.

[Shane]

So they voted on the leader.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

It was a guy.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Matt]

Yeah, That's a fair point. I don't know. Yeah. But then who's really the chief?

[Shane]

The chief. The guy is.

[Matt]

Dang. That would suck if your wife removed you from chief.

[Shane]

That would be tough.

[Matt]

That would be so tough.

[Shane]

That would be tough. You'd have to fight her.

[Matt]

Yeah. Okay, well, good research.

[Shane]

Good research.

[Matt]

Yeah. Because I. That is a good point, though, because it's like, how the do these people talk about this stuff?

[Shane]

It's like, pretty written.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

History. They're just.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

They find, like, tools and old campsites and they're like, the woman was probably in that room.

[Matt]

They pick it up, they go, this is pretty. Yeah. Yeah. Girl tool.

[Shane]

Girl tool. This one had a lot of beads on it in its tomb slot.

[Matt]

Yeah. It is funny to find, like, scraps of beads and be like, in this house. The daughters would be sitting there. Marco Polo would them. As long as you want it.

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[Matt]

Yeah, the whole ch. Having sex with an entire Chinese family is. Man, that's. That's crazy.

[Shane]

That's what's up.

[Matt]

It's crazy to think about.

[Shane]

That's what's up. It's interesting.

[Matt]

So it's interesting.

[Shane]

I've never really thought about free use on an entire family. I've never really thought about free use in a family.

[Matt]

So the father would bring you in the house and leave for three days.

[Shane]

The father would leave. Interesting.

[Matt]

And what would you do again? Remind me.

[Shane]

They would just go about their chores and you would have your way with them while they were working, maybe doing the dishes.

[Matt]

And then.

[Shane]

That is interesting.

[Matt]

At the end of the day, at the end of the day it was. The father was happy about it. That's. Yeah, yeah. I've never heard of that before.

[Shane]

No, I've never watched that fucking three times a week.

[Matt]

But yeah. Yeah. Poor. Yeah. Marco. Polo. Man, what a good guy.

[Shane]

Hell of a run.

[Matt]

Guy's guy. Truly a guy's guy.

[Shane]

That's a guy's guy.

[Matt]

But it's so funny.

[Shane]

I think Genghis Khan was into some free use himself.

[Matt]

Yeah, he was on a freeze. Mad one, bro. He put in like the Contra Infinite Ultimate Freeze. Yeah, bro. Is it like 25 of China?

[Shane]

Everyone's related to Genghis crap.

[Matt]

I think Marco Polo chilled with Kublai Khan, actually.

[Shane]

Yeah, I think so too.

[Matt]

Rubbed up. I think he was like, in Kublai Khan's squad. Yeah. Yeah. He chilled with the con himself. That must have been so crazy. Going to a completely different world with no idea what was going on over there.

[Shane]

And I think Kubla was about to start up, like, really not doing great.

[Matt]

Oh, no.

[Shane]

Yeah. Once Genghis died, I think they. Yeah, they just short. Could be wrong. Kuba might have done well.

[Matt]

I think he was rocking. But again with the. From what I.

[Shane]

He was off his daddy, dude. Yeah, he still. He might have been a bit of a Shane O Mack, though. True. I think he was still doing stunts. I think he was still stunting on him, but he was no, Vince, I.

[Matt]

Dude, I'm so happy you opened my eyes to Shano Mac. Because I, I, I left off with him when I was like 10. I hate.

[Shane]

I left off with being like, yo, Shane. And then you see the highlights. You go, damn, this guy was giving it his all.

[Matt]

When you brought up Shane to me, I. For real, I had to stop. I almost turned around and jacked your collar. What do you say?

[Shane]

What do you mean?

[Matt]

You. You mean he's cool.

[Shane]

I understand. Of course. Dude, you don't think I. I had a deep hatred for him. There's one other guy on earth named Shane and he's a. And then I was wrong. He was the man.

[Matt]

He's. Dude, I mean, those cages have to be. Let me. What is the exact height on those things? It looks to me like 30 something.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Lamar]

25Ft. Yeah, they're high as hell.

[Matt]

25Ft.

[Shane]

Some of those are jumping off for like 40ft.

[Matt]

Yeah, one of them. Like, super high.

[Shane]

No, the, like, side of the Titan Tron, dude.

[Matt]

Yes. That's what that was.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Oh, my God, dude. Yeah, that's. I didn't know also.

[Shane]

You didn't know about versus Commercials.

[Matt]

I didn't know about that. I even know. I didn't know what versus was. Versus I thought it was where two old rappers go head to head.

[Shane]

No, no, it's a fishing channel. Fishing in Pac 12. Football and rodeo. Like Mountain west basketball.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah. Those commercial. Those runs are crazy. So intense. And what year was that? They were way ahead of their time.

[Shane]

That was probably like 05 06.

[Matt]

Way ahead of time.

[Shane]

Yeah, they're making some.

[Matt]

What.

[Shane]

Shout out to Whoever made that versus go to YouTube and type in versus commercials.

[Matt]

Yeah, man.

[Shane]

It was just putting together just the best locker room speeches you've ever heard.

[Matt]

Unbelievable, man.

[Shane]

Just get fired up. The funny thing, though, is during the commercial, it'll cut to like a hunting highlight. Yeah, that makes me laugh. Yeah, it's like it's you versus them, you versus history. Then it cuts like a scope on a deer. That's like the.

[Matt]

Did I do second place deer. True. You put it that way. That does. Second place does stink. If you get eaten, maybe you like.

[Shane]

Flies in your soup.

[Matt]

I like second place. Like, I like a fly in my soup. Not at all.

[Shane]

It's good stuff.

[Matt]

That was great stuff. Yes.

[Shane]

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[Matt]

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[Shane]

And you like the stack with stuff.

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[Shane]

I do like Steph Curry.

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[Shane]

What else do you like?

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[Shane]

It's interesting. I've never thought of it like that.

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[Shane]

You'd stack his boards?

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[Shane]

You'd stack them up?

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[Matt]

Yeah, I think they're sick of us. A lot of highlights.

[Shane]

I think they're sick of us riffing and having fun.

[Matt]

It was the script.

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[Guest]

I can't fucking wait.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I wish Jared McCain was healthy. Didn't he hurt his thumb now?

[Guest]

Yeah, he's going through a hard time, but he's going to come back. He's going to be great. VJs going to be. Yeah, I think VJs.

[Shane]

Who are the Sixers playing?

[Guest]

Celtics.

[Shane]

Oh, nice.

[Guest]

Yeah, it's a good game one.

[Shane]

The Celtics.

[Guest]

The Celtics. And mean that with my whole heart. And I, I, I do think we got him now. This is a lot. I think we got him, though. Joe's playing. Paul's not playing. No McCain, but I think we got him.

[Shane]

Be all right.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Maxi.

[Shane]

Maxi.

[Guest]

Maxi is looking the best he's ever looked. Paul's great.

[Shane]

But I said Paul's.

[Guest]

It's okay.

[Matt]

No, it's totally fair, Jerry.

[Shane]

McCain's looking as good as he's ever looked.

[Guest]

No pause on that.

[Shane]

No pause.

[Guest]

They got the black jerseys.

[Shane]

I was against them at first. The black jerseys look nicer.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

They're bringing back, like, the AI.

[Matt]

I remember those. They're awesome.

[Shane]

I wish they brought back the true AIs. Like, that were like, like and one.

[Guest]

Oh, like Giant jersey. Everybody has to wear.

[Shane]

Joel would look good in that.

[Guest]

I was just gonna say Joel looked good. Anything but.

[Shane]

I love Joel. I love Joel. You're ready to get fooled again, dude. You're ready. Your heart's back in. I get me. That's just being a sports fan, dude. Week one. Every year you go, dude, I. I think we're going to win it all.

[Guest]

All season. I'd be like, they're going to be so bad. Who cares? I'm barely going to watch. That's all I'm thinking about.

[Shane]

I've seen the Sixers hype start growing again.

[Matt]

That's good.

[Guest]

It's because Joe's healthy. When he's healthy, it's just like we can do anything.

[Matt]

How many years do you think he has left in him?

[Shane]

Well, we'll see how this one goes. Yeah, yeah, but he's not healthy this.

[Guest]

Year, then it might be it. Yeah, but. But if he is, I think got two or three.

[Shane]

Yeah, he's healthy. Yep. Just gotta rest him. Do we have a backup center?

[Matt]

We.

[Guest]

We got two.

[Matt]

Boner.

[Guest]

The bona looks good. He's young. He's.

[Matt]

What's his name?

[Lamar]

Boner.

[Shane]

A dembona. A Dembon. Dem bonus.

[Matt]

We need damn bonus.

[Shane]

Dembonus is coming in.

[Matt]

So wait, so just to recap, you said Dem bonus. Looking good.

[Guest]

Bonus looking pretty good right now.

[Shane]

All right, we got good Dem bonus. What else we got? What's the. What's the other backup's name? Guy's butt. Yeah, guys, Butts and Dembonas. Do you know who the other one is?

[Guest]

Audrey Droba.

[Shane]

All right, we got Drone.

[Guest]

Yeah, we got Drubba.

[Matt]

Nice. It's gonna my attention. There's a tall Asian fella, too. Kicking around the league again, is there? Yeah, there's a super tall Asian guy, but he's black.

[Guest]

He wouldn't have stood out as.

[Matt]

No, no, there's like a. Look him up.

[Shane]

There's like an Asian, like a. Oh, oh, from Memphis.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

What's his name? He went to Purdue. He was at my show. We hung out with him.

[Matt]

Nice. Zach.

[Shane]

Edie.

[Matt]

Yeah, I believe so.

[Shane]

Edie's the man.

[Matt]

Tall as hell, right?

[Shane]

Hung out with him a couple times.

[Matt]

Someone has hit me with some. Some of his highlights.

[Shane]

He's awesome.

[Matt]

What's funny? It's like, wait till you see this guy. And it was just very like, just tall man basketball.

[Shane]

Yeah, he's like. I took a picture with him. I look like literally just a short fat. If you get rid of my height, I look insane. I was coming up to like, his stomach. I was like, I look exactly like the Megabus logo. Because she's seven feet, right? Yeah, he's taller than that.

[Matt]

That's. You should be like, bro.

[Shane]

Literally, this is what I look like in the picture. The mega. I'm the Megabus logo. Devastating photo. Oh, I'll find it. I Got some good ones of the ocon. Man the other day. Gut was out. Oh, no, he's grinched.

[Matt]

What happened? I thought he was locked in.

[Shane]

I thought he was not locked in that day.

[Matt]

He looks like the Philly fanatic.

[Shane]

He looks insane. He'll have abs and.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Week.

[Matt]

He's the king of the temporary lock.

[Shane]

In, which, I mean, he can gut out like no one.

[Matt]

That's awesome.

[Shane]

He just gets a huge belly.

[Matt]

I mean. Yeah, I guess if you get the six pack fast, you gotta get the belly fast, too. It's got to be both ways.

[Shane]

I gotta find. I gotta find this one.

[Matt]

I like that, though. He looked good with that belly on him.

[Shane]

I like the belly.

[Matt]

Also. When did you get that photo?

[Shane]

That was when I was in Philly. He went to the Eagles game, and he was a. He went to the Phillies, then the Eagles, and the eagles was at 1 o'.

[Matt]

Clock.

[Shane]

He came, I ran into him. I wasn't drinking at all, and I ran into him and I was just like, dude, you need to go home. You're awful. He was. This is how drunk he was. He was falling asleep at the bar. He was trying to watch the rest of the NFL games on his phone.

[Matt]

Beast.

[Shane]

He went to the bathroom. I would change his phone to. I would YouTube full game, 2010, the exact same matchup, and he's just at one point. One point. It cut to Tom Brady throwing a touchdown to Wes Welker, like a highlight. And he was like, you just watched. You watched 2010. Like, bucks, falcons.

[Matt]

You are the devil, dude. That's such a funny thing to do. Oh.

[Shane]

He'S like, what the Is this? Oh, God damn it. I gotta find this picture of me and eating.

[Matt]

Oh, that's so funny. Oh, my God.

[Shane]

Yeah. If someone's significantly taller than me, I look nuts in the photo. As soon as we took it, I was like, delete it. Delete it. No, I think I, I, I was honorable with that. I posted it on the Internet.

[Matt]

Yeah, man. He's.

[Shane]

Everyone knows. This is hilarious. Everyone's like, you look like a. You put down social media.

[Matt]

Yeah. It's totally unnecessary. You're, like, doing.

[Shane]

I've just been. Literally, it just hurts me now.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I just go, oh, I'd like to be hurt.

[Matt]

Yep.

[Shane]

All right, good. Three minutes of watching a show. I go, the scene's boring. Let's get hurt. All right. There we go. That one really hurt.

[Matt]

You know? You know, I was in the shower today, and I, I, I don't know if this is like, the dumbest thing ever. But I was thinking how 97% of people. I think maybe even 98 or, like, terrified of public speaking.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Then if you asked anyone, like, would you like to be famous? Like, more than anything ever, it's like, well, dude, it's the literal fear of public. You're being stared at.

[Shane]

You're constantly perceived.

[Matt]

Yeah. It's a bad feeling.

[Shane]

It's.

[Matt]

It's bad.

[Shane]

I. I mean, yeah. Unless you're a psycho that likes being perceived.

[Matt]

Yeah, true.

[Shane]

But I don't like it. I hate it. I've been stricken down with the melancholy. Dude, I went for a walk the other day yesterday.

[Lamar]

I was.

[Shane]

Was going through it. I don't have anyone to even talk to about this stuff.

[Matt]

Yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah. I see everyone saying I stink. See, I got a message the other day from a lady just going, hey, just so you know, me, my boyfriend, watch your special. It sucks so bad. I hate it. And I just watched. I was like, God damn. Like, a nice little message from a lady. I said, what the fuck? From a lady. I expect this from a guy, but what the hell? Why do a lady go out of her way to take me down?

[Shane]

Yeah. Lady hurts.

[Matt]

I was pulling my pigtails or something.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

She got me. I gave him the God bless. I want God bless.

[Shane]

Yeah, God bless.

[Matt]

God bless, man.

[Shane]

Yeah, I hit a lot of God bless us.

[Matt]

Yeah. Just God bless. Yeah, it is. It's a weird thing to complain about. Like, dude must be on cloud nine. Like, I'm deeply depressed right now.

[Shane]

That's good. You get that. I get nothing but, like, are you all right?

[Matt]

Really?

[Shane]

Yeah. Like, people like that must be really hard, what you're doing. It must suck. And then you're like, well, there's good parts. I like it. I like what I do.

[Matt]

I get a lot. Like, are you excited? Like, no, I know. I have the same feeling every day. It's just kind of weird anxiety.

[Shane]

But, yeah, it's not good. You do have to be a psycho to.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Enjoy it.

[Matt]

Yeah. Just step in and be like.

[Shane]

And then you're like, I. I see how Chappelle left for a while.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

There's a daydream all the time where I'm like, I could leave. I could leave for a few years.

[Matt]

Yeah. I think. I also think it's. Yeah. I feel like, yeah, it's not a bad.

[Shane]

I probably will. Give me two more years and I'm, Yeah. Gonna go away for a while.

[Matt]

That'd be nice.

[Shane]

If I can have a tough time leaving.

[Matt]

Yeah, true.

[Shane]

You Got to get off the stage for them to want you back on the stage.

[Matt]

That's true.

[Shane]

You know.

[Matt]

Yeah, but you got, but you also got to do a cool new look. You can't. You gotta go Letterman. Grew the beard, dude. You gotta do a cool look. You gotta do something sick. Dude.

[Shane]

I've got it. And change the pigmentation of my skin away for six years. Black as hell.

[Matt]

So my question was, would you be Shane Bad or Shane Quick?

[Shane]

Shane Quick Quick. We'll see. We'll see if I'm on a weight loss journey while I'm doing it.

[Matt]

Shane Rock. Shane Bad or Shane Quake or Shane Smith?

[Shane]

Shane Smith.

[Matt]

Shane Smith.

[Shane]

Bonkers, dude. I'm coming back. Slapping people screaming, Shane Smith.

[Matt]

Not to be confused with the guy who does vice.

[Shane]

True. Yeah. I think about it.

[Matt]

Yeah. Well, yeah, it'd be nice. But then it's. Yeah. Like, what would you do if you did a pure sabbatical?

[Shane]

I don't know.

[Matt]

Just goom, probably not just Coomb.

[Shane]

Jack off for five years. That'd be like a monk like existence. Don't talk to anyone. Just disappear. Go to Madrid. Jack off for five years. Come back black. Come back black as hell. I can do it. Chappelle came back jacked. You remember that?

[Matt]

Yeah, he came back way too, bro. He came back yoked.

[Shane]

It was too jacked.

[Matt]

True. He had jacked.

[Shane]

His head didn't quite fit.

[Matt]

He did get absolutely yoked.

[Shane]

Yeah. When he left, he was so skinny.

[Matt]

Yeah, I, I, I'd have to. Just in honor of that, I'd probably sex change.

[Shane]

Yeah, we'd have to do.

[Matt]

If you're coming back. If you're coming back with a Bukowski out.

[Shane]

My brothers could come back.

[Matt]

I could just keep all my normal life. Like, oh, there's a guy's a girl now. Yeah.

[Shane]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Matt]

Yeah. True, true Again.

[Shane]

Stricken down with the melancholy. And it was. It's probably the sickness as well.

[Matt]

Sickness will do it.

[Shane]

And illness will give me some melancholy. Yeah, but we'll be all right.

[Matt]

Yeah. I mean, you just have to break through to a whole other level. You know what I'm saying?

[Shane]

Oh, yeah. I've thought about it. I've been laying in this room thinking about the changes that need to be made.

[Matt]

Total locking.

[Shane]

It starts with getting rid of fake friends. It's time for me to completely isolate myself. I've reached that level of fame now. It's isolation.

[Matt]

True. You might have to do Luke Skywalker on the mountain. Yeah, that'd be sick. You come back and you're like, dude, my dinosaur.

[Shane]

I thought about the best down syndrome joke of all time.

[Matt]

Hell yeah.

[Shane]

Yeah baby.

[Matt]

Yeah. I, you know what's nice right now for me? I wake up every morning at 6:30 and there's a bunny in my front yard every day. And my dog chases it around for a good like minute and a half and my kids just go nuts every day at 6:30. It's been pretty fun.

[Shane]

That's good stuff.

[Matt]

Matilda doesn't, she doesn't try to bite it. She just wants, she's thrilled with the chase. We just get to watch it every morning. I'm like, that's like that. And then reading about it's coming. Well, she's going to bite it. Yeah, I don't think she's going to bite it, dude.

[Shane]

She's going to bite that.

[Matt]

I'm telling you. She chases frogs. She just, she just, she's all about, she loves get close because she a little, she could get it. Dude, if she wanted that bunny, it'd be hers.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

But no, she doesn't, she doesn't. With the bunny she chases around my daughter's screen, I'm like, you guys got to be quiet, dude. It's still dark out. Like a bunny. I'm a donor. So.

[Shane]

Yeah, they're, they're still having kids would be nice.

[Matt]

Yeah, that does that occupies 97 of your brain.

[Shane]

No doubt.

[Matt]

Which is nice. There's nothing to think about. It's just you like wake up every morning, they're there, you never sleep, they FaceTime, you do the dinosaur face. Every, every time I'm traveling I call my, hey guys, how you doing? Be a dragon. I have to just put the dragon head filter on and they just go haha, that's good. How you guys, I'm like, how are you guys?

[Shane]

That's good.

[Matt]

Do, do the unicorn. Stick out your tongue.

[Shane]

This is what happens when I'm on the road. Lamar FaceTimes me, the mayor FaceTimes, he's like, will you do dragon?

[Guest]

I do.

[Shane]

I put him to bed. Lamar goes to bed, he facetimes me, I go, you'll be all right. I'll be home. I'll be home.

[Matt]

Brother Shane, where are you? What day are you coming home?

[Shane]

Shane, Can I jack off in the office again? Yeah, go ahead man.

[Matt]

Yeah, I did, I did like two, one day was a seven day trip and then I had like a week off and went to. I did like a 4 to 5. They were not happy. Oh yeah, yeah. The Dallas like I gotta go away again. They Went, oh, my God, guys, this kind of sucks. I always tell them I cry. I'm like, guys, I'm gonna cry again. They're like, don't cry. I was like, all right, if you guys don't cry, I won't cry.

[Shane]

And then I, you know, tricked them.

[Matt]

It's been working. Yeah.

[Shane]

You get in the car, you go. Free time.

[Matt]

Now I can work on my laptop.

[Shane]

Now I can around.

[Matt]

Yeah. But I feel crazy, dude, when I, like. Because I go to a hotel room and I'm so used to there being a million things going on. When it's, like, quiet, I get, like, the heebie jeebies. I just sit there and I go, what the. Especially coming through.

[Lamar]

Real heebie.

[Matt]

Jeez. Yeah. Where the am I, dude? Yeah, man. Especially when you come out from, like, you do the two shows, it's just like. You're like. Like vibrating. And then it's like, ice cold, quiet hotel room, and it's like, dude, I don't feel like watching. If I, like, go to watch tv, I just flicker through a menu of Netflix and I go, I. I just turn it off.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And then I go, I'm just gonna lay down until I fall asleep. And then my body's just throttled with adrenaline, and it's just. All roads truly do lead to the hub, dude. When you go to the hotel room, it's. It's. It's terrible.

[Shane]

You gotta have about 20 beers, and then you gotta watch Rude Von Nessroy. All goals scored for Manchester United. That's a good 40 minutes.

[Matt]

You really do see the drinking because you go, like, I gotta do something. Yeah, I gotta. I'm back in this room by myself. I'm completely charged up.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Matt]

I just. I literally go, right.

[Shane]

I get back into acid. That rocked acid. We have to find another time in the future.

[Matt]

Yes, for sure. Earlier. Take it earlier, too. Yeah, that'd be nice. So we didn't have to.

[Shane]

So we can go to bed. Yeah, hopefully.

[Matt]

Yeah. Or even, you know, even if you went to bed by three, that would be.

[Shane]

Yeah, that'd be a victory.

[Matt]

Staying up all night on that stuff and flying home was not the recipe for. Oh, that was. Dude, that airport was. I woke up, that would talk about going to the airport early that day. I woke up, walked around. I didn't even. I barely slept. I just walked around with a suitcase around Chicago. Like a crazy person went to the. Went to the airport so early, and I, for some reason, like, wouldn't eat. I was like, no. Food would not be the move And I just. It was. Yeah, it was a weird time. That was a weird day of my life. It was a weird. I was so happy to be back in the natural rhythm. I had been like, no, no more coffee, Nothing. Sunrise, sunset if I can just inhabit those days that'll be nice and you know. Already back on the devil bean.

[Shane]

Don't worry about the bean, dude.

[Matt]

It's fine. The bean, the beans. The beans under control for sure, dude. I got. Do you ever get.

[Shane]

I'm gonna have an intervention for you for the bean.

[Matt]

Yeah, dude.

[Shane]

We're gonna sit down, be like, dude, you've had too many beans.

[Matt]

Call the white. Call my wife. She'll lead it.

[Shane]

She'll do it.

[Matt]

She's like, you get so mean when you're on caffeine.

[Shane]

When you're on the bean.

[Matt]

I need it. Shut up.

[Shane]

You're on the bean.

[Matt]

Dude. I got. I got car sick for the first time in my life.

[Shane]

That sucks.

[Matt]

The Electric Mustang. It's only that car. I was in the Electric Mustang and I was just like sitting there. I'm like, oh, my God, I feel awful. And again, I like, I beamed up.

[Shane]

Pretty hard driving an Electric Mustang Uber driver. Damn.

[Matt]

So I'm like, in that thing, dude. It goes. It just rockets forward and they let go of the gas.

[Shane]

Stops.

[Matt]

Stops. Yeah. I was dying, dude, in there. And then I was like, no, I thought it was the coffee. I was like, dude, what am I like, what the going on? I felt sick. I had a headache.

[Shane]

It's the bean. You're having withdrawals from the bean.

[Matt]

I thought it was the bean. And then, then it was. It was brought to my attention that the Electric Mustangs are notorious for. It was like a 45 minute ride.

[Shane]

That sucks.

[Matt]

Oh, I was trapped. I was dying. I was truly dying. So it was. It was, you know, look out for that. I'll keep an eye on the Electric Mustang Uber careful.

[Shane]

Yeah, that would fire me up. The only time I ever drove a Tesla was doing that.

[Matt]

Really?

[Shane]

And I guess you can adjust the settings to make it kind of come to a rolling stop. Yeah, I did not. So it was just the whole drive.

[Matt]

I think if you're driving. I think it's better, though. If you're driving, you're not driving. I was in the back seat. I've never. I thought it was like a fake girl disease, dude. I got. For real, got most kind of. That's what I thought it was.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Until I got stricken with it and I said, holy.

[Shane]

Car sickness is definitely babies and girls.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah, big time. I get that's. That's the number one post fight driving in, post fight silence. That's how the cold war on they'll go.

[Shane]

What?

[Matt]

What? I have motion sickness. You're like, jesus, what the kind of abuse is. This is a new form of abuse. Do you want me to. There's nothing you can do.

[Shane]

The only thing you can do is speed up.

[Matt]

Your exit's coming up. I thought you had motion sickness.

[Guest]

Shut the up.

[Shane]

Our exit's coming up. We're going right into a pillar. This is our last exit.

[Matt]

But yeah, that's. I'm, I'm happy to be back now. Not doing a million podcasts that makes your brain feel kind of crazy.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

After a while, just non stop of like. Yeah. So. Oh yeah. Oh yes, for sure.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I don't, I don't want to do any more podcasts.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Other than this one.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I don't like giving opinions.

[Matt]

True.

[Shane]

Done. I don't have any more opinions. I said them all eight years ago. I haven't thought of anything new. I haven't changed.

[Matt]

Yeah. There's really also too now. It's, it's, it's too high stakes. There's a big moral shell game going on.

[Shane]

Opinions I have. I know fluctuates day to day, but you could catch me after a long night of watching Nick Fuentes highlights on Instagram and I'm gonna give you some crazy opinions.

[Matt]

Also when I really.

[Shane]

When I ever depends what algorithm I.

[Matt]

Got, I know whenever, when I sit down to think about it, it's like, how do I really think? Whenever I go, honestly, how do you really think feel about this? At the root of it, I go, I genuinely have no idea.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Like I don't know how it works. I don't know anything about it. Most of this is just me wanting something to be true or having a, like a automatic reaction where I go, yeah. And as soon as I investigate it myself, like, like how do you really think it goes? I'm kind of full of shit on this. I have no, I have genuinely no idea. I just have my biases and I just go, yeah, well fucking I don't know. That's how. That's how I feel about that.

[Shane]

That's how I operate.

[Matt]

And I've seen a lot of videos that support that. And there we go. We're done. But yeah, now, dude, you get into the. There's a lot of like demonology talk now with tech billionaires. Peter.

[Shane]

I have seen Peter.

[Matt]

Christ. Yeah.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And then Tucker had A guy on too that was talking about like he had Alex Jones and his other guy.

[Shane]

Talking to the Jones 1.

[Matt]

Jones 1 was nice. I listen that on a plane just talking about like talking to the DMT entities, like get rid of the human population. So be on the lookout for that.

[Shane]

Guys, what's going on with the demonology?

[Matt]

They're just saying, like, all these tech people have been doing like DMT and are talking to these like entities that Alex Jones believes are like legit spiritual entities that are like demonic obviously that are telling tech billionaires to eradicate. And the worst part was Alex Jones specifically said they get these like jester like figures. And I went, I got bullied by the jester. That bastard. Dude, he didn't tell me to depopulate. He just literally just made fun of me.

[Shane]

Depopulate would be nice.

[Matt]

Yeah, that's, that's apparently that's what he's saying. They're all, they're all getting the signal to depop and get rid of a bunch of people and just like reign in AI to kind of like reign supreme and it's, you know. I know, dude. It is pure nerd stuff.

[Shane]

Miss me with the nerd AI.

[Matt]

I know they, they got to. Someone's got to stop them.

[Shane]

I'm watching college football, dude.

[Matt]

True.

[Shane]

I have no time for your computers. Shut up. Grock sucks. Grok.

[Matt]

I will say, dude, my thing is it's useful if you need to be like, hey, I'm reading a book. Is this true? Or like, do you have any other. You can research with it? And it's not bad. Yeah, but to be like, it's going to completely control all of society one day. It's Google. Yeah, that's kind of.

[Shane]

It's a fast Google.

[Matt]

It's a more comprehensive Google for sure. That can be wrong.

[Shane]

Oh, now you're back on your AI stuff?

[Matt]

I'm just chilling.

[Shane]

Well then, what was that nasty little face?

[Lamar]

It's over, dude. We're cooked. They already won.

[Matt]

I don't think so, man. Because they're talking about the super intelligent.

[Lamar]

Oh, dude, they're like a anti humanist. They're trying to become like trans human. They're trying to ascend past the tech billionaires, the guy with the AI.

[Matt]

They do want to live forever and that's kind of. They're saying like that might be on the table. Yeah, but also, who wants to be a nerd forever?

[Shane]

Not me.

[Matt]

Just an eternal nerd.

[Shane]

Eternal nerd.

[Matt]

Not. I'm not trying to come at Zuckerberg. You give that guy. Two more thousand years and they're still going to be like, who the is this nerd?

[Shane]

Finally, there's. There's going to be a super bully. There has to be one chosen one in the next 2,000 years that's going to punch all these guys in the belly. Statistically, it's coming. I might start my own AI. You got to create the ultimate bully.

[Matt]

You got to create an error, dude. To stop these guys.

[Shane]

I'll live forever to fight them. You guys were actually gay? Remember when you got a boner in third grade? I was there. I did the research. I recreated it right here.

[Matt]

You got to pour all of your worldly money into a bullying AI. So you guys are losers. No matter how much money you have, you'll always be a nerd. Give up, people? Never. You find the right combination of cool clothes and Jiu Jitsu.

[Shane]

The cool clothes are cool.

[Matt]

Crazy, bro.

[Shane]

Like a box T shirt and a chain.

[Matt]

The.

[Shane]

Are you doing my.

[Matt]

The best part is like, imagine. Imagine if I was a billionaire and I hired, like, all kinds of stylists and they just dress you like a Paul Brother, and you're like, what the hell?

[Shane]

That's what I got. I got a stylist. They gave me, like, 10 Paul Brother shirts. And I was like, you guys got to get out of here. I'm not wearing any of these ever.

[Matt]

No.

[Shane]

Because I wanted. I wanted. I was like, I can't buy clothing.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Shane]

I. There's something in me. I cannot buy it. I buy the same thing every time. I get gym shorts and T shirts. I need somebody to buy me one thing.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

So I forgot all about it. And then these ladies came to my hotel room with, like, racks of clothing. They're like, just try these on.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I just do, like a fashion show right here. Three women.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

It was the most embarrassing. I can get into that.

[Matt]

If they, like, hiked my pants and checked how loose they were on me.

[Shane]

There was some of that, which was very nice. But now when they left, I paid a little visit to the Beat off ferry. No. It was such a disastrous day, dude. I was in LA for, I think, the super bowl commercial last year, and I brought my Xbox.

[Matt]

Nice.

[Shane]

I had bannerlord fired up. I get to la, I'm like, finally, some peace. Start playing Banner Lord. There's a ring at the. My hotel phone rang, and they're like, we have some people to see you. I was like, oh, I forgot about this.

[Matt]

Oh, no.

[Shane]

And then I had to try on, literally, like, Harry Styles outfits. Like, like, Bell bombs.

[Matt]

Yes. Like, now can you do a backflip?

[Shane]

I look like a.

[Matt]

Hire your sisters and mom to be your stylist.

[Shane]

They are. This is. This is. Yeah. This is what they bought me in fifth grade, and I'm still doing it.

[Matt]

This is it. Yeah. No, Brittany. Brittany got a stylist and. Same thing. I was like, have her get me some pants. And it was like. It was a battle.

[Shane]

I did get some dungarees out of it.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

You do learn about some dungarees. I've learned about a couple things.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Shane]

But to be wearing cool clothes.

[Matt]

No, dude. Well, they take it personally when you're like, dude, I. I hear you, and that's nice, but, like. And because you have to explain, you're like, that's kind of for. They're like, what are you talking about? That's. This is like. This is like, what I've studied, and you're gonna look great. And you're like, yeah, but, like, they kind of come at you like, oh, what? I guess you're just, like, not confident, like, no one's gonna tease you. I was like, first of all. Yes.

[Shane]

First off, you wouldn't guess how many people will tease me. It's a number. You can't imagine. Millions.

[Matt]

It's like, dude, Brittany's like, she'll get on my ass about all the time. She's like, just because your brother's called you gay when you're in sixth grade doesn't mean you have to dress a certain way forever. I was like, yes, it does.

[Shane]

It does. That was good that they did that. That's a. That's a natural. Yeah, that's biological for sure. You should have that.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah, dude. No, it gets. Because then it gets weird because also, like, I've noticed high black fashion. First time in my life, I'm going, you guys are good with that. You guys can have that. Black guys have found out about Jinkos now.

[Shane]

It peaked in 04 black fashion. G Unit was probably around then.

[Matt]

I would say FUBU jerseys. G Unit Diplomats and G Unit, the best.

[Shane]

They had it.

[Matt]

Then it was skinny jeans.

[Shane]

Now it's just been.

[Matt]

It was skinny jeans are just recycling.

[Shane]

Old white guy.

[Matt]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

Like, now we're goths. Now we're vampires.

[Matt]

I know, I know.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's gone.

[Matt]

What's going on the black high fashion world, Because I feel like you guys have lost your way. If I'm. If I'm being honest as brothers and that we have, you know.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Before Shane race transist.

[Shane]

I'm coming Back jacked and in Jenkos. I'm coming back as Jaleel.

[Matt]

Yeah. Holding a handbag.

[Lamar]

I think the Jordans are too expensive.

[Matt]

You can't. Come on, man. That Jingo shit's so expensive. I don't want to hear that. You're telling me black fashion has hit a thing where they're finding budgets? Good luck with that, dude. That's not the case at all.

[Shane]

We're talking to NBA. We're talking to NBA pregame. We're talking the walkout.

[Matt]

Yeah, man.

[Shane]

Those outfits are sus.

[Guest]

Sometimes they're sus.

[Shane]

Sus as crazy. They were, like, vests with no undershirts.

[Matt]

Purse.

[Guest]

Like a purse purse with probably nothing in it.

[Matt]

Yeah, right.

[Shane]

It does make it worse, though.

[Guest]

At least put something in your purse.

[Matt]

Did you see Cameron's bag? When Cameron paid Adrian Broner, he had a bunch of cash. That's what we're missing on the podcast. We need a designer bag with a hundred thousand dollars in it.

[Shane]

All right, I'll get it.

[Matt]

And we'll have a guest on every week. And it's every week. Yeah, exactly. That'd be nice. And then every week.

[Shane]

Yeah. Nick Bryant.

[Matt]

Yeah. Yo.

[Shane]

Five minutes.

[Matt]

It's in every podcast. But you got a roll, dog. You got. I'mma pay you for your time.

[Shane]

We gotta get Cam on here.

[Matt]

That would be sick. He hit someone with the. I mean, the best pause I've ever seen.

[Shane]

Really?

[Matt]

I think the guy was talking about how it was some. It was an athlete, and. And unfortunately, the guy goes, yo. Like, my head game's crazy. And I don't know what he was trying to say. Cameron just goes, okay, hold on. Big Paul. It's a Big Paul.

[Shane]

He got Levy on Bell with some good ones. He's like. And I just went to Kansas City, and they just knew how to, like, use me. And he was like, hey. I was gonna let the last couple slide, but.

[Matt]

Pause.

[Shane]

Wonderful.

[Matt]

I. I really love the attention to detail of just, like, sussing out anything that could be perceived as gay and just stopping a serious interview and be like, well, hey, just so you know, what you said sounds like you're having sex with guys, but otherwise. Go on.

[Shane]

I got rogies with one that I just couldn't contain.

[Matt]

Really.

[Shane]

I was doing the podcast with him, and he was showing the highlight of Michael Chandler kicking Tony Ferguson in the face.

[Matt]

He was like, look at that.

[Shane]

Just a ball of muscle just exploding in your face. I couldn't even. I was like.

[Matt]

Paused.

[Shane]

A guttural pause.

[Matt]

Andrew Santino got one out of me. I think it was last year. I was on his podcast. He was talking about the stretch Lab. And I'm like, I heard of that place where you go to a place where all they do is they stretch you.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And I was like, so we're talking about. He goes, this guy's just been stretching me to my limits. And I was like, bro, I am sorry.

[Shane]

It's the worst.

[Matt]

But I was like, yeah. I was like, dude, I don't want to be disrespectful, but obviously Paul is. That's crazy. Being like.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Because he had a couple that. I was like, I don't want to be rude. And then it was like, you know when he just stretches you to your limits? And I was like, all right, dude.

[Shane]

I just stretched out by a dude.

[Matt]

Just for the record, I just have to throw a quick pause, and this is kind of nuts. I thought he was doing it on purpose to get it.

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt]

Which maybe he was. I don't know. But, yeah, it was very funny. Just to be, like, stretching me to my limits.

[Shane]

I was like, the health. The people that talk to you about their health, they'll hit you with 10 pauses in one. Yeah, it's like. It's that. Yeah, I've just been stretching. In the morning, I get stretched out, and then I run until my body can't take it, and it's just, like, so thirsty. And I drink water. It goes right down my throat. Stop telling me about your gay workouts.

[Matt]

Guys, I will be in the Bricktown Comedy Club in Tulsa, Oklahoma, this weekend. 1024, 1025. I will then be in off the hook Comedy Club, Naples, Florida. 11 7, 11 8. Comedy on State, Madison, Wisconsin. 11 14, 11 15. And then the Funny Bone. Funny Bone Comedy Club, Syracuse, New York. 1219, 12, 20.

[Shane]

Nice.

[Matt]

And stay tuned for a. I think I might go to the stress factory, too. So sick. Yeah.

[Shane]

In New Brunswick, November 7th and 8th. November 7th, I'll be in San Francisco. November 8th, I'll be in Sacramento. So please go to those. What about when? What are you boys. And you guys got anything you want.

[Matt]

To.

[Shane]

Come see the fellas?

[Matt]

Here we go. Yeah.

[Guest]

If I think the day this comes out, I'll be in Atlanta. Helium in Alpharetta, 8pm and optimum knock this.

[Matt]

When's the next one?

[Guest]

First and third Tuesday of every month. Yeah, that works.

[Matt]

Noise.

[Guest]

Thank you. Please come.

[Shane]

Thank you. Oh, Lamar wants to look at that.

[Lamar]

Sorry. Hello. It's veto. Hey, everybody. I'm gonna be in Iowa October 24th.

[Shane]

You're gonna be in Iowa.

[Lamar]

Iowa?

[Shane]

When?

[Lamar]

This weekend. October 24th. October 25th? Yeah, it should be a hoot. Please come and ask me.

[Shane]

Go see Lamar in Iowa. That'll be crazy.

[Lamar]

Panties and mouth.

[Matt]

I'm all powerlifting right now. I told you, I'm heavyweights now.

[Shane]

I'm worried about you.

[Matt]

Why?

[Shane]

That's how you get really up.

[Matt]

No, no, it's like I don't. I go six rep max, so I don't go like as heavy as possible, but I do.

[Shane]

You're not doing like deadlifts, are you? Oh, yeah, Heavy deadlifts.

[Matt]

Not. I did 205 yesterday. All right, that's not bad.

[Shane]

Stop.

[Matt]

Keep that. So I'm keeping it there. I'm keeping it at a six rep. Yeah, whatever. I can do six of. I leave it there. Dude, you feel so awesome. After that I leave and I was doing like circuit training and I like it, like going high cardio.

[Shane]

Lifting rules.

[Matt]

Lifting's the best, dude. I mean, I still was lifting, but I was doing it like fast and like, there's a lot of cardio. Now I'm doing like lift something heavy. Chill. Text. Go on Twitter. Chill.

[Shane]

Get hurt. Yeah, get hurt by Twitter. I'll show them with my next rep. Thanks, fellas, whoever sent me that.

[Matt]

Yeah, Twitter, I can't even read it because it's like, I'm in. I just. I get tagged in so many, like 97 person things. Like there's no direct. You know, I just read and yeah.

[Shane]

I don't get a lot of insults on Twitter.

[Matt]

Yeah, no, I just get propagandized heavily on Twitter. Yeah, I do some research and it's always. It's God damn, Twitter's wild, man. It's really. It's a really negative space. You go on there.

[Shane]

It's all negative.

[Matt]

It would be good. I wish I could like fully get into that though and be like, yes, I watched a video today of. I don't remember the guy's name, he's Republican. Explaining like the shutdown. He goes, guys, and be honest with you, not going to sugarcoat it. Here's what's going on. And just fully was like, it's all the Democrats fault. And I was in my kitchen laughing, being like, dude, I wish I could just be in here and be like, motherfuckers, Democrats. The. They gave you a fair bill and you guys responded with $1 trillion illegal immigrants. You.

[Shane]

I mean, how else are they going to get their votes, brother? Come on, man.

[Matt]

If what the guy was saying is true, it is damn it because he's like we've tried everything because you know they're about to run out of the snap benefits.

[Shane]

I heard about that.

[Matt]

It's not good. Good.

[Shane]

It's not good.

[Matt]

It's not good. Dude, I've seen people putting out the fatwas on Walmarts and dude, Walmart's about to be lit.

[Shane]

Thanks Battlefield.

[Matt]

So it's so funny to be on Tick tock being like I'm about to Walmart up. It's like don't go on Tick Tock and say that, you dumbass. They have you on camera. I'm gonna do what I have to do. And Walmart up lames.

[Shane]

You should get into a Walmart this rummage right now. Well wait till everyone else is doing it.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And then get in there.

[Lamar]

No, I tried to do that when everyone was protesting in the pandemic, but none of my friends wanted to go.

[Shane]

Well, you wanted to loot a little bit.

[Matt]

Loot the mart, dude. The mart is ripe for alluding right now.

[Shane]

Just shook his head.

[Guest]

I don't like you thinking about loot.

[Matt]

True. You're going to get pinched, Lemaire. True. You have the vestal used to work there. You do man. On the inside.

[Shane]

True.

[Guest]

You did loot before. It was cool.

[Shane]

That's.

[Matt]

When'd you loot. You got a good looting in.

[Shane]

You guys should have looted a Gamestop. What were you doing?

[Matt]

Yeah, well he's.

[Guest]

I don't know.

[Shane]

You guys were allowed to lose working at one.

[Matt]

He's got company ties of course.

[Shane]

But inside man, the second everyone was like, no, it's cool. You guys can loot for like couple months. I would have hit the Gamestop. I wasn't allowed to loot.

[Guest]

You could have loot it.

[Shane]

No, the honks weren't allowed.

[Matt]

Y' all were.

[Guest]

Y' all were looting with us a little bit.

[Matt]

There were some hawks.

[Shane]

A little.

[Matt]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Shane]

A little.

[Matt]

Is it fair?

[Shane]

Thank you for saying a little. Real small amount. There was just as many defending the targets in Walmarts or that fat lady in a wheelchair. She deserves some respect, dude, for defending it.

[Matt]

Yeah, true.

[Shane]

She's trying to keep civilization together. Yeah, she probably is at her wits end. Are we doing? We're not. You can't just take everything.

[Matt]

Yeah. When I was in Philly, my home.

[Shane]

Target like bunching her.

[Matt]

My home target got shut down for a while. It was a major inconvenience. That thing got destroyed.

[Lamar]

Yeah.

[Matt]

The one on I think like in B. Kenwood got leveled. But yeah, be careful. This this. This. I've seen a lot of people promising that they're going in. One lady said she made a deal with God where she wasn't going to loot anymore. But she said, if you guys do loot something, I'd like to have, you know, if you loot me a thing, I. I would greatly appreciate it. While you're out looting. Just like a grocery list. Yeah, it was actually kind of nice. Kind of nice? Yeah, a lot of.

[Shane]

I said, I've seen a grocery list.

[Matt]

Well, she was just kind of like, there's some things. Yeah. If you loot, grab me a couple things.

[Shane]

She.

[Matt]

She was pretty. Pretty modest request. She's like a pack of noodles and some case of water.

[Shane]

Some butterfingers.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Lamar]

If.

[Shane]

If you. If there's extra in the cart, a snack, a treat would be good.

[Matt]

Yeah. It's looking grim, man. I was telling you, I saw a lady. It was this compilation of, like, that, everyone spazzing out of the benefits, and the lady just did one of the nicer, more constructive posts where she goes, guys, they had these survival packs at Walmart, which you can get, like, I think it's 25 meals, 37 bucks. Just add water, I think 20,000 calories, and you can just. If you get one of those, man. Yeah, that's a.

[Shane]

That's paid the mre. They. They trick me. I think Tucker sells them.

[Matt]

Does he?

[Shane]

Somebody sells them. Patriot. Oh, four Patriots. They. They trick me, dude. Every once in a while I go, yeah, I should probably stock up the.

[Matt]

Patriot podcast, Alex Jones.

[Shane]

And then I don't buy groceries, so I would definitely just be throwing into my doomsday bunker and clearing it out.

[Matt]

I was reading that, that Vietnam Tuesday would happen.

[Shane]

We get down there, I'd be like.

[Matt]

Oh, is that the bunker?

[Shane]

I ate everything.

[Matt]

Yeah. They were saying they used to make. They would heat. So they get, like, the rations in Vietnam, and they. They had a little bit of instant coffee, but they'd have to use C4 to light this little thing, so you'd have to, like, get a tiny chunk of C4, light it to boil the water.

[Shane]

That's crazy.

[Matt]

It's fucking insane. Yeah, just a little bit. You got to get, like, downwind of it because I don't think the stuff is too good for you to breathe it in. But, yeah, but yeah, just hopefully things turn around, man. I mean, this is.

[Shane]

I'm not. I'm not worried about the snap thing. Yeah, I'm confident they'll get that fixed, I think. So there's no, dude they don't get that fixed. That's a problem.

[Matt]

But by Thanksgiving and Christmas. That'd be terrible.

[Shane]

They'll get it fixed. Yeah, they will.

[Matt]

Well, yeah. If you guys want some more information, check out Sean Blazington's new video. Dude, I watched. I caught it first thing this morning. It was.

[Shane]

Got you going.

[Matt]

Yeah. It was funny because he does a. The montage he puts together, it's like, dude, come on, man. We don't need 30 minutes of these vines. This is. You're painting a very negative picture right now. But then he goes on. He goes, guys, my heart's with all the moms who are suffering. And then, like, within 10 minutes, he goes, y' all mad? Daddy Trump ain't giving you your snacks now you're acting like a brat. He's just. I think he's kind of a troll.

[Shane]

But you got to give the people their snacks.

[Matt]

Snacks are a must. Yeah, you gotta do the snacks.

[Shane]

I didn't realize how many people were on the snack program.

[Matt]

Yeah, I think a fair amount.

[Shane]

Ton of people are on the snack.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah. A lot of people. Yeah. So especially. Especially Thanksgiving.

[Shane]

Dude, you need your snacks.

[Matt]

You need your snacks. Thanksgiving and Christmas. Snackless. Thanksgiving and Christmas. Because, dude, the one lady was like, for Thanksgiving, grab one of these ration kits.

[Shane]

And I was like, oh, that's a tough Thanksgiving.

[Matt]

Took me back to when I was in Philly. One time, there was this old. He was just. Old white guy, and he was like, just a. Kind of a drunk. And I was in this grocery store in West Philly. It was kind of like a depressing market. And. And I remember he put a can. It was, like, close. It was like. I think it was like the day before Thanksgiving, he put a can of Spam on the thing. And I was like, this guy's definitely in Spam by himself on Thanksgiving. And he, like. The lady was like, hold on a second, I gotta do my register. And he just goes, patience is my strong suit, man. I'll never forget it.

[Shane]

He's having a good time.

[Matt]

What a great guy. Yeah. Yeah. Just about to hit the Hawaiian Thanksgiving. They love Spam in Hawaii, bro. They do. Oh, like, it's. Yeah.

[Shane]

I don't think I've ever really even. I don't remember having it.

[Matt]

I've tasted it once.

[Shane]

Is it just the inside of a hot dog?

[Matt]

Kind of. Yeah, kind of.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

It's like if you made tofu out of, like, a pig's eyeballs.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

It's kind of what it reminds me of, personally.

[Shane]

Witches got a hold of some pigs that I have a newt.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Shane]

We did it.

[Matt]

We did.

[Shane]

Anything else you want to talk about?

[Matt]

No, dude, that's it. Hopefully next week we'll. We'll dress back. I'll be back.

[Shane]

From this illness.

[Matt]

Yeah. Dude, thank you for that. Stinks, man. Yeah, it sucks being sick, Especially talking when you're sick. Blows.

[Shane]

I'll be all right, man. Thank you.

[Matt]

What do you got? What do you got to do this weekend?

[Shane]

Nothing.

[Matt]

Can you recuperate?

[Shane]

I can recuperate.

[Matt]

That's good.

[Shane]

I'm off this weekend. I gotta go to Philly on Monday. I kind of got a shitty week next week.

[Matt]

Do you really?

[Shane]

I gotta go to Philly and then I gotta go to LA next week.

[Matt]

Yeah, that's gonna be tough.

[Shane]

And then San Francisco and Sacramento.

[Matt]

Oh, nice. Sacktown. Yeah, Sacktown's sweet.

[Shane]

Sacktown is sweet.

[Matt]

Sack down.

[Shane]

The Diaz boys show up.

[Lamar]

All right.

[Matt]

Bye. Watch new episodes of Matt and Shane's secret podcast on Spotify.

[Shane]

Do it.

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