Ep 608 - WrestleMania (feat. Cody Rhodes)

Summary

Matt and Shane’s Secret Podcast – Ep 608 “WrestleMania” (feat. Cody Rhodes)

Date: April 13, 2026
Hosts: Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis
Guest: Cody Rhodes (WWE Champion)

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Episode Overview

This episode spotlights pro wrestling’s cultural impact—blending comedy, nostalgia, and locker room lore as Matt and Shane welcome WWE superstar Cody Rhodes. The conversation is a headlong ride through American family mythologizing, behind-the-scenes wrestling tales, fandoms, childhood relics, entertainment insecurities, and the funny overlap between bombing in comedy and wrestling. Notably, Rhodes gives candid perspectives on “nepo baby” narratives, working his way through the ranks, the spectacle of WrestleMania, evolving training regimens, and his rivalry with Pat McAfee. At its core, the episode is about embracing your roots—whether as a performer, a fan, or a guy with “shrine of guys” action figures.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Family Myths and Wrestling Roots

• Cody shares stories of his father Dusty Rhodes’ origins, examining how family narratives often get mythologized in wrestling—sometimes embellishing the “plumber’s son” backstory for effect.
  • “My mom knows better...he was a non-union plumber who was killing it.” (03:00)
• This parallels the hosts’ experiences of older generations exaggerating hardship, a phenomenon they jokingly call “Springsteen-ing.”
  • “When you pretend to be more working-class than you are, it’s Bruce Springsteen.” – Shane (04:54)

2. Morning Routines, Fatherhood, & the ‘Old Man Beach’

• Discussion about waking up early, beach chair etiquette, and the strange “old man” rituals that come with fatherhood. Jokes about knowing the tides (and making stuff up for your kids).
  • “You can be wrong about everything all the time to your little kid... The sun explodes at night.” – Shane (07:47)

3. Childhood Fandom & Action Figures (The Shrine of Guys)

• LaMaire’s hidden “shrine” of wrestling figures spurs discussion on the shame and pride of holding on to childhood fandoms into adulthood.
  • “If you have a lady friend in there, be—you keep your figures up, man.” – Cody (10:25)

4. DX, “Suck It,” and Who Owns Wrestling Gimmicks

• A deep-dive into pro-wrestling's blurred line between innovation and appropriation; Cody explains gimmick origins and who deserves credit.
  • “The rule is, whoever got it over, whoever made it famous, it becomes theirs.” – Cody (13:31)

5. Rekindling Wrestling Fandom & The Magic of WrestleMania

• Shane and LaMaire share how each got “back into” wrestling and Cody shares the magic and athleticism of the Undertaker’s return.
  • “The blackout…when we do it in the stadiums...it’s not full like on TV. And he rolled in the ring...He had such testosterone…I mean, he was so ready…” – Cody, on Undertaker (18:12)

6. Embracing Sports Fandom: The Eagles Story

• Cody explains his journey from being a Georgia sports fan to becoming an adopted Philadelphia Eagles devotee after a pivotal WrestleMania moment in Philly.
  • “The story of the match was more about me losing than winning. But…they [Philly crowd] took to me…my life was changing as an entertainer.” (21:33)
• Discussion of the Roman senator analogy for ‘nepo babies’: “You bring glory to the house of Rhodes.” – Shane (24:17)

7. Behind the Scenes: Training, Tag Partners, and the Locker Room

• Stories about old-school training vs. modern WWE Performance Center.
  • “Today...they’ve got agility, they’ve got multiple rings, including one that has an extra layer of pad and bounce...” – Cody on NXT (31:15)
• Recalling “Hardcore Holly,” Cody’s tough, old-school tag partner and learning hard lessons on the road.
  • “He was just very much the first guy I met that was one thing he did right by me, he taught me about proper training…” (26:54)

8. The Bomb: Failing in Comedy vs. Wrestling

• Laugh-out-loud stories about “bombing”—on stage or in the ring—and the emotionally raw car rides home.
  • “We had, like, a house with five of us...If you bomb, you gotta sit in the bomb chair.” – Matt (38:24)
• Cody parallels the moment in wrestling: “As far as wrestling promos go and the last lines being flubbed, that’s one of the worst feelings ever...When you think you’ve got some hot ammunition, and then you come back and realize, didn’t get it.” (41:18)

9. Audience Experience and Production Value

• Shane, now playing arenas, admits he once thought fog machines and lights were corny, but now sees their value for big crowds.
  • “Turns out I’m not George Strait, so...load it up.” – Shane (43:38)

10. Theme Songs & The Art of the Wrestling Walkout

• Cody discusses the importance of walkout songs as branding:
  • “It doesn’t need to be a good song; it needs to be a catchy song.” (46:06)
  • “It’s the only walkout song WWE has that WWE doesn’t own...but the issue is I hear it so much…We’re married together, that song and I.” (47:57)
• Hosts joke about the worst entrance music and the humor of occasionally picking “funny” (bad) walkout tunes. (44:19)

11. Pat McAfee vs. Cody Rhodes: Feud and WrestleMania Hype

• Light ribbing about McAfee’s wrestling ambitions (“He’s the new Liberace,” jokes the group), and Cody’s polite yet razor-sharp non-comments.
  • “Henceforth, I’m just going with the Mariah Carey, ‘I don’t know him.’” – Cody, on Pat McAfee (53:01)
• The tradition of celebrities at WrestleMania, and whether McAfee fits that pantheon.
  • “You decide where Pat falls on that list...” – Cody (57:06)
• Extended, hilarious in-character promo by LaMaire calling out Pat McAfee for WrestleMania.
  • “Pat McAfee, you dare say the wrestling industry… that the IWC stinks?…without the IWC you wouldn’t be shit!” – LaMaire (69:02)

12. Nostalgia & American Culture

• The group reminisces about epic college football rivalries (Catholics vs. Convicts), regional fandom, and childhood loyalty.
• Cody credits Ken Burns’ documentaries and street fighter prep, showing the odd but inspiring overlap of historical Americana and pop culture performance.
  • “I live for Ken Burns...I was just diving in and for whatever reason, I got stuck on Ken Burns’ Civil War.” – Cody (64:27)

13. Memorable Interview Moment: Brandi Rhodes & The “African American Nightmare”

• A running joke about Cody’s wife’s self-declared nickname and his learning curve.
  • “It's not mine to access. And I learn it more every day.” – Cody (71:18)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On family myth-making and wrestling's tall tales:
  “Technically it’s real...But I always laugh, like my mom knows a little better on that.“ – Cody (04:26)

• On ‘nepo baby’ accusations:
  “I look at it like a Roman senator. You’re just bringing more glory to the house.” – Shane (24:17)

• On being proud of your fandom:
  “Be proud of your figures, man...Don’t be afraid of that.” – Cody (11:22)

• On the pain of bombing:
  “After an hour of me making fun of him, the one dude just lost his mind, tried to fight me.” – Shane (38:23)

• On modern wrestling’s evolving training:
  “The system they have down with the performance center now is designed for the NIL athlete.” – Cody (31:15)

• On Pat McAfee:
  “I’m just going with the Mariah Carey, ‘I don’t know him’ response...Even though I might.” – Cody (53:01)

• LaMaire’s wild McAfee promo:
  “You think you’re going to walk out unharmed?...This guy right here, Cody Rhodes, the American Nightmare—the QB One of the WWE—he rarely lets us down.” – LaMaire (69:43 & 70:04)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Intro & Family Stories: 00:00 – 05:10
• Morning Routines, Dad Energy: 05:11 – 07:30
• Kids, Tides, and Lying to Children: 07:31 – 08:50
• Action Figures & The Shrine: 09:41 – 11:34
• DX, 'Suck It' Origins: 11:50 – 13:44
• Old-School Wrestling Gimmicks: 13:45 – 15:13
• WrestleMania Reignites Fandom: 16:31 – 18:09
• Cody's Philly Love & the Eagles: 19:40 – 21:58
• Nepo Babies, Legacy in Wrestling: 23:56 – 25:49
• Hardcore Holly Stories: 26:01 – 29:10
• Training Evolution: 31:03 – 33:10
• Bombing Onstage/In-Ring Comparisons: 37:03 – 43:05
• Walkout Songs & Branding: 45:00 – 47:57
• Pat McAfee & WrestleMania Feud: 51:26 – 57:10
• LaMaire's WrestleMania Promo: 68:22 – 70:15
• Closing Bits: 70:17 – End

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Tone & Style

The episode is loose, candid, full of locker-room energy and affectionate ballbusting, toggling easily between heartwarming nostalgia and sharp, on-the-nose comedy. Cody is game for riffing and deeply insightful about the wrestling biz, matching Matt and Shane’s “hangout” vibe with war stories and earnest reflection.

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Final Word

Whether you’re a lifelong wrestling fan, a comedy nerd, or just someone who loves group dynamics and pop culture anthropology, this episode delivers big laughs, insider perspective, and the joy of belonging to a tribe—action figures, dad stories, and all.

Transcript

[A]

The wild wild west. Hey, you're not masturbating in here, are you?

[B]

What up big.

[A]

What are you doing?

[B]

Oh, man, don't put the belt. Don't put the bell.

[A]

You know, this is so you got quite a scene in here. Let's see what's going on.

[B]

I don't know, dude. Just chilling.

[A]

No, this free spirit, living it.

[C]

Just watching the rise and fall.

[B]

Regin.

[A]

Oh, man, it's pretty good. Well, thanks for. Thanks for having me in your home. Thank you so much. Dude, just to self, this is the type of energy I need right here. Right here. My guy. All right, man, we're going to go to this pod.

[C]

Oh, what we got going on? I'm turning off the tv. I'll be in there.

[A]

Oh, why do you have it so loud? You're right there. Oh, man, I love this. All right, man, we still work.

[C]

Yeah, I'll be upcoming.

[D]

How does it feel?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

That was the last thing I expected

[B]

was the bag's on you.

[C]

Yeah, the bag's on many. Hello.

[D]

Mayor's gonna cry.

[B]

Lamar, you. Are you crying?

[C]

I'm not crying, dude. Just very surprised.

[B]

A good surprise.

[C]

Yeah, it's a nice surprise, dude.

[B]

It was tough to keep you out. Normally you're asleep by one, so I thought. I thought we could sneak in there while he'd still be asleep.

[D]

That'd be nice.

[B]

Instead he's on top of him. He tried to go to the gym this morning and I had to be like, no, dude, get back in your room. I have a meeting. I don't.

[A]

I have a meeting. Works really well on a lot of people.

[B]

It was it. Yeah.

[A]

I have a common. Oh, I. I don't think it's even like the parlance anymore, but I have one where I tell my one buddy and he knows I'll be like, I got. I gotta zoom. And the zooms. I don't think people are even zooming anymore. But he knows that just means I'm leaving.

[B]

I gotta go. It's a good move. What's going on?

[E]

Thanks for coming, Cody Rose. Appreciate you.

[B]

We're stuck.

[A]

We're in Austin, huh?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. This is it. Yeah. My.

[A]

My dad grew up in East Austin and I feel like I forget that and I feel bad because I'll come into town. I got two nephews who are at the University of Texas. Just.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

Forget to say hi.

[D]

Breeze right over them.

[A]

They're out there doing it.

[B]

Yeah, you can say hi to them today.

[A]

Nope, nope.

[B]

You got a zoom meeting.

[D]

Your dad's from East Austin. I didn't know that.

[A]

Yeah, no, he was, he was from East Austin. His, his whole story coming up in Austin, which is like, especially when he got into his, his wrestling career in the American Dream. He was the. A plumber's son. My grandfather Virgil was a plumber. But the story he would tell and you see it in a lot of the old, old territory wrestling interviews, is that like they were down on their luck style plumber. But my mom knows better. He was a non union plumber who was killing it. Yeah, he, he was doing very well and dusty. My dad was like his pride and joy. You see all these pictures of him in like full blown brand new cowboy outfits and like the red wagon and everything. I mean they weren't super, super rich or anything like that. But it's funny to hear the, the story as it's told later in my dad's career because, you know, I'm the common man that, you know, dad was a plumber. I came up on the streets.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. There's some elements of that I don't know about. You know, a lot of big, like my life ends up very much. Have you seen the movie Big Fish?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. So my life. I felt like that movie hit me in a way that no movie has ever hit me. When my dad passed away and we were at his service. It is literally like the scene in Big Fish where you, you realize, man, a lot of this stuff was real. Like a lot of these stories were. Jeez, like these characters are. It's accurate. Which is a crazy thing to think. But yeah, he's the lore. It was there.

[D]

You're just calling him out on that one detail.

[A]

Well, this is what. I don't mind it because like, hey, he's a plumber son. They grew up on a cop. Like technically it's real. It's real. But I always laugh like my mom knows a little better on that. How he was. He was treated very well.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

I'd like to hit my dad with that. My dad, I like to tell him he was fake poor, but yeah, he loves crying poor.

[B]

Oh, I'm one of 10.

[D]

We didn't have a pot to pit. You know all that. It's like, bro, you're a spoiled dude.

[B]

Shut up.

[D]

We call it a Springsteen. When you pretend to be more working class than you are, it's Bruce Springsteen.

[A]

I feel like that's maybe all generational.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Is they seem to for how bad it was. It seemed to get everything they ever Wanted, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Everybody got the. The big family and everything. And I. I get it.

[B]

College was 20 bucks. House house was 150.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They're doing great.

[A]

And then so, because we're talking about your hours, sleeping hours. What's.

[D]

What.

[A]

When are you up? When are you down?

[D]

That's a good question, Lemaire.

[A]

When are you up? When you down?

[C]

Why are you talking to me?

[D]

No, no, this is actually important.

[B]

Oh, what are you trying to talk?

[A]

Show the bell, Lemaire. We. We've got. We've got gu run at a completely different speed that they're. You know, if you text them at 7am you'll receive a reply at 1pm that's when he's up.

[B]

It's kind of most of the squad.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Other than that, Matt's away. The rest of the squad is.

[A]

See, I'm from like a different. I think I'm misplaced in time. I'm up super early. I'm a total goody two shoes. I'm also a real. Let everyone know I'm working real hard here. Guys like it.

[B]

Speaking. Most of the guys who wake up early let everyone know they're up.

[A]

Yeah, they're really like, it'.

[B]

So just so you know, I'm awake right now. I do it every single time.

[D]

It's the best.

[B]

I love, like, because we were just filming a TV show and I had to wake up every day, like six every day. I would text all my friends, be like, dude, wake up, you bums.

[A]

Dude, the struggle, man.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Rising Christ. I'm already working.

[A]

There is something beautiful. Getting up early in the morning. There's a whole day that you don't. That's just.

[B]

It is nice.

[D]

It's awesome.

[A]

I. I discovered the super old man thing that I do. I was describing it as maybe the most old man thing I do. We just went to the beach with my girls and I go down to the beach right when the. The guess the chair part, like the chairperson opens. And I'm there waiting to get my beach chairs. And then I put stuff in the chairs so that people know these are. These are.

[B]

Yeah, these chairs.

[A]

Yep, these are. These are taken. And I. So I was standing around with a group of men that were much older and talking about things a lot different than what I would be talking around. I thought this is. Yeah, this is where I'm supposed to be.

[D]

Yeah, this is me now. I have two little kids. Any chance you can get to just like, get it like a solo 15 minutes is pretty nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I would Wake up. We're at the beach. I wake up. Like, I gotta set the tent up now. I'm gonna set it up. You know, it's nice, too. You're like, oh, it's probably low tide now. I'm gonna push it back a little. High tide's coming.

[B]

Start gauging the tides. I know the tides, bro.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

I don't know how long this lasts or when they go back out. No clue.

[D]

Now you got.

[A]

You're thinking about the tides.

[D]

Got him, man.

[A]

That's the type of talk I want.

[D]

Yeah. I just make it up. I just make it up. I go out there and just go like, yeah, probably low tide.

[B]

I will. This is my theory on it. You guys, with your kids, you can be wrong about everything all the time.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

To your little kid, you can go. The sun explodes at night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they go, holy. Yeah.

[D]

But then they start going to school and then they start.

[B]

But I think for like six years. Oh, you have just like. I've never been wrong. No, you haven't been wrong in six years. I can say anything.

[D]

Complete free reign.

[B]

Tides are going to be gone in 20 minutes.

[D]

Yeah. I'm running up against kindergarten right now. She's debunked a couple of my things. And I'm like, yeah, well, your teacher doesn't know.

[B]

Starting to investigate the investigators. She's starting to find out some things.

[A]

Yeah. You're undefeated for a while. Yeah, you're undefeated, but it's also to the tides thing. Just to get back.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

You're not totally wrong. Do you? Do you. I feel like you may not know exactly what you mean. It was like low tide, high tide. There's something to what you're saying that's accurate. Absolutely. It's come. Water's coming in.

[B]

Water's it's going to happen.

[A]

I just.

[B]

I'd be surprised if anybody here knew the timing. Like, how long is it high tide and low tide?

[D]

See, I got to observe.

[B]

You're talking like 12 hours or.

[D]

No, it's like. I think it's every.

[B]

I know the moon controls the ti.

[D]

Moon controls the ties. Or. Dude, you're ready to go.

[B]

Yeah, I could.

[D]

That's all you need one factor.

[B]

I can talk tides all I got.

[D]

I look at wet sand and then I. And I. If I see the waves aren't exactly making it to the wettest point, I go, tide must be going out.

[B]

Going out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, man. You're undefeated right now.

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[B]

What I would have liked what I would have liked when we visited Lemaire's room was for you to see. He has a secret cabinet of his. Guys.

[D]

A shrine.

[B]

He has a shrine of guys. You took down the shrine. You got made fun of too much.

[A]

Yeah. What was the shrine?

[B]

No, you started getting some in there and you had to

[A]

lair. What was the shrine?

[C]

It was just like. It was like a Kofi Kingston and orange Cassidy.

[A]

Oh, see?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

He had the figures in there. We're like, dude, it's time to put down the figures. But he had them hidden in one of the cabinets.

[A]

What? Honestly, why did you put him down? Why'd you take him down?

[C]

I don't know. I just. I don't know.

[A]

I'll tell you if. If you have a lady friend in there, be you keep your figures up, man.

[D]

True that.

[B]

I'd say you went in there. You can't be himself if a woman's in there. I mean, I'm watching cartoons and playing on my video game.

[A]

It was a lot of. I. I noticed a lot of sensory overload. TV was jacked up on a documentary. And then you were playing your RGB when you were deep in that. Obviously the cannabis swirling the air as well. And then like a very makeshift cleaning system where things were stacked.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. He's waiting to clean.

[C]

I'm on my way to cleaning.

[B]

That's like rings of a tree. You can see the last time he cleaned by the layers of trash, you know, that was April.

[A]

Oh, man. Well, be proud of your figures, man.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Don't. Don't be afraid of that.

[B]

I am jealous. My nephew has all my figures now.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I saw him and I was like, I was wondering where those went. I want them back.

[D]

Then you should take them back.

[B]

I should. Any.

[A]

Any grails in there? Anything that was real.

[B]

I was a big DX guy, so I was like. When I saw the DX figures.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was like, damn, I wish I had those guys back. Stone cold. Obviously, it's A classic.

[A]

What was it about DX that you. Was it them just.

[B]

They were just being bad boys.

[A]

Don't suck it, sucker.

[B]

It was incredible. Sucker was huge.

[D]

That was the biggest. I don't know what the.

[B]

It was our six, seven. Yeah, it was every single kid of a camera's on.

[D]

I don't know if like what genius it was, if that was Xbox himself or there's just like an absolute genius somewhere that was like, here's what we're gonna do. Because that was one of my favorite things.

[B]

Do you know who came up with Suck It?

[A]

So I think if you kind of pull the thread on Suck it, there's gonna be a two or three guys who try to say it was them. Because at first people were doing. Yeah, crotch chop.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

And dx classic WWE style. Let's market this.

[B]

We'll just.

[A]

And it's a whole another thing I'm gonna say it's. It's someone. It's a Xbox. It probably, if anything, Shawn Michaels will get the credit for it because he was doing this. Yeah, kind of before, but it's like the Fargo Strut, which is what Rick Flair does. That whole deal. If you really look at it, it's hard to always determine who came up with it first. More wrestling. The rule is whoever got it over, whoever made it famous, it becomes theirs. Especially in like the 70s and 80s, they were just Bob Dylan songs, just straight ripping the lyrics and putting them into promos. They would do similar stuff in different territories, but there's no cable at the time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it was really whoever marketed it and patent it. Prime example. Hulk Hogan's Hulkup. Every wrestling baby face pretty much used to do the hit. Ya. Nope, not anymore. And they'd start coming back, start coming back. And then he made it such a big thing. But the Hulk up was so the finger point that nobody else could do it anymore. And if you do it today. Yeah, you're like a crazy person. If you try to Hulk up at any point, even though that was a common baby face, basically they'd be selling, hey, I'm done with you hitting me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like now I'm coming back. And the crowd could feel it. But yeah, wrestling. Whoever gets it over, it's theirs.

[D]

So it's pox. Pretty much.

[A]

Ex. I'd say so. Yeah.

[D]

That's awesome.

[B]

Tony AO came up with, you can't see me.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You don't think so?

[D]

Hold on, here we go. Lamar's activated, like by the rules.

[C]

John Cena got it more over. You know, I Don't know.

[B]

Tony Ayo did it in a. In an like get rich or die trying.

[C]

But John seems to be doing it for 20 plus years. You know where.

[A]

Where do you stand on. I think you're going to be the. The. You're going to be the boat. Where. Where does it. It's John, right?

[B]

You're taking it from Yayo and Gayo get you dude.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm gonna have him break in your room later this week.

[A]

How many people go in his room, by the way, was that? Not many.

[B]

You're one of most people don't make it back. That's a tough cleaning.

[D]

Ladies refuse.

[B]

Ladies do not go in.

[A]

I'm honored. Yeah, I said because I saw you at the Austin show. You came to right? Was it? Yeah. Heck yeah. Good time, man.

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[A]

Are you going to Wrestlemania? Why?

[D]

Yeah,

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

I just.

[C]

I don't know. I want to go. I. I just.

[B]

I don't know. He got me back into. He got me back into wrestling with a mania like two, two years ago.

[C]

Dude.

[B]

I like to say I got Jelly

[C]

rolling the wrestling too.

[B]

You got Jelly Roll into it?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So you're responsible for. Because Jelly is like full blown wrestler now. Yeah, Jelly loves it.

[B]

How'd you get him into it?

[C]

We were, we're. We're in this car during the Nashville festival and we were smoking and then we're hanging out and then I was like, we're raw was on Monday. And I was like, I would like to go. And he was like, you should go. He saw it was Harley, I think, was doing the guest. And he was like, dude, I want to do that. And I was like, bro, you should definitely do that.

[E]

Damn.

[C]

Make you validate.

[A]

And Jelly Roll is a big part of what we do now.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

So that was Lemaire.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

The guy sitting next to a guy going, I think I'm going to do that. And he goes, yeah, you should. Yeah, that was all me.

[A]

Yeah, but you got to come to mania, man. It's Vegas. Oh, how to come to mania? But did you, did you get. You got into it because of.

[B]

He got me into it for a minute. It was. Yeah, it was during WrestleMania. And I was like, man, turn this. I don't like watching wrestling. Turn this off. And then I started watching it and I was like, oh. And then we were watching it. Actually, I watched the last few manias when yours, when taker came back and like all that, I was laying on this couch. Yes, I was laying on the couch. And then when the lights went out and taker came back, I was like,

[A]

it brought you back.

[B]

Everything came back. I was like, holy.

[A]

He. I've told this story before, but he ran to the ring with two brand new, I believe, either hips or knees. He just had double. And this was the first time he'd run. But the, the blackout, when we do it in the stadiums or in the arenas, it's not full like it is on tv. It's. You can see a bit. And he rolled in the ring in a way that he could have probably killed a full blown lion. He had such testosterone and I mean, he was so ready to be standing up. And for that moment, it was incredible just to see how agile is. Why under such a great athlete. Agile he was. But then again in the moment he hits the chokeslam on. On rock. And I told him when he was on my podcast, but I can't believe it happened this way. He literally looked over to me and I think I missed the moment a little bit because I think he was looking for a little bit of. I got you, kid. Sheriff's leveled the playing field here. But I was just half dead from whatever Roman and I had done. But he, he completely just winked at me. Lights went out. I. I was, I was in it every. I was so like, man, it's again like the big fish element of it with what we do. The suspension of disbelief. What's real, what's not. You cannot convince me that he's not magical. And save my WrestleMania. So do you know that's how my Eagles love all that all started.

[B]

No, I had no idea.

[A]

Okay. So I bounced around NFL wise. I'm from Georgia. I'm from Marietta, Georgia. So as far as teams to root for in Georgia that are safe, the Bulldogs in Athens can't ever go wrong with uga. The Braves, the Braves are going to consistently be a good team. I got really into the Falcons as a kid. Michael Vick came on board.

[D]

That's awesome.

[A]

Two season tickets sold out. I was wearing that number seven jersey every day. I was all about it. And then the worst thing that could have possibly happened in the state of Georgia.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then we fell off as a fandom. And then of course, Maddie Ice and the. The Comeback. So I always loved my home team, but I never, I was never fully juiced in.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My sister, my oldest sister, she ended up her big dream growing up. She wanted to cheer for the Cowboys, so she cheered for the Cowboys for two seasons. So most of my family are Cowboys fans, but I never really had a team, so I bounced all around every year. I just kind of take a pick.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, this I. I like a good SEC quarterback. I'll follow him. I. My favorite arena to perform in. Arena is Wells Fargo in Philadelphia. It's a hard arena. They like the bad guys more. And for whatever reason, on a night I had nothing going on. This is money in the bank years ago. I'm sorry I'm looking at you, Lamar. Like you

[B]

guaranteed us, you know, and

[A]

the way the story we told the match was like, maybe they'll get behind Cody because this is kind of a. An odd group that we don't have a running favorite. Maybe they'll get behind him. They got behind me in this match, and the story of the match was more about me losing than winning. But after that, I thought so strange. I'm a Nepo baby in the business. A lot's been handed to me.

[B]

I've.

[A]

This is a type of crowd that wouldn't take to me. And from years of performing in front of them, they did. So I always had this Philly love. Fast forward to the biggest match of my life and where my whole life changes and why the title exists, like, why I have it here is there on the link is WrestleMania 40. And I. After that, I just couldn't. I mean, I dressed in their locker room.

[B]

Yeah, that's awesome.

[A]

My life was My life changing as an entertainer in the wrestling business. All discussed right there in that infrastructure. So I just felt, I'm in. I'm. I'm in. Good team.

[D]

Go Birds.

[A]

Like, yeah, like, Go Birds. Great conversation with Sirianni. Everything. Like a great team. I'm in. And. And cr. You know, everything he did, I felt like I had just something about this place. Fast forward to. I want to take my. Some of the camera guys and one of our writers at wwe, his name's Kirsch, and our director, they want to go to this Phillies Raiders game in Philadelphia. Like, they want to go to the Eagles Raiders game in Philadelphia. And I was like, oh, we can do it. We can make it work. And I. I didn't want to go through anybody. I just got a suite, got it catered. I didn't try to do any of these hookups. The same game that I did this Joe Biden was at. And I'm not kidding, they treated me better than they treated Joe Biden.

[D]

That's kind of unsurprising.

[B]

That makes sense. I know those guys.

[A]

I got pictures of me on the field throwing the ball. I. I stood by the tunnel. They made everyone in my crew feel amazing. All we. So afterwards, we're going to leave. We've had the best experience ever, especially some of the crew who this was. All of it was a bonus. Hey, come back. Come in the locker room. Going in the locker room, doing some local access interview about how the offensive line played that day. And I'm just talking nonsense, but they treated me like a native son. So every time I go, it gets deeper. Like, I can't. Because my mom the other day, she asked me, she goes, why are you an Eagles fan? Nothing ever good happened there. And I'm thinking you were in the crazy.

[B]

You were in the ring, Michelle.

[A]

That's where they play, you know? But, yeah, that's where. That's where it all started. So. I'm new. I'm new. It's fun, but, man, they do. They been so good to me.

[B]

Yeah, the Eagles are awesome.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Also going back to the ne baby thing. I. I don't like that idea at all. I hear you hear it about, like, Ice Cube, son, all this stuff, and it's like, the idea of somebody working hard and then putting their kids in a good position to, like, work hard and do good stuff. People resent that. I'm like. I look at it like a Roman senator. It's like, you're just bringing more glory to the house.

[A]

So it's like, yeah, dude.

[D]

It's like, House o' Shea Jackson. He brings glory to the house of Cube. You bring. You bring glory to the house of Roads. I don't. That whole thing, I. I just. I'm just not with that, man.

[A]

Bro, it's spot on. That's like.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's it. I mean, the song as. I'm a super dramatic person, and when it comes to wrestling, I take it so seriously for how often silly the job actually is. But I mean, the first words of my song are, wrestling has more than one royal family, and it's all about, you know, the Hearts, the McMahons, the Guerreros, and finally getting a little, hey, the roads are here, dude. You know, we're gonna run the score up.

[D]

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I think that's awesome. When you hear people like, ooh, it's like, dude, tell your dad to do better, man. Tell your dad to step it up, man.

[A]

So anybody who brings their kids around work and they're. If they're like young boys or whatever and they're thinking about getting into wrestling, I always tell them, like, hey, it's gonna be easy for you private jets. You're not gonna be commercial. And I can always see, like, their parents, like, stop. You get on the tour bus. Like, don't. Hey, you got a little heat in the locker room. That's okay. They're just. Just. If it's gonna be bad, just lean into it. Yeah, lean into it. You know, Like Wrestlemania. Somebody called me the golden boy yesterday in a backstage pre tape or a few weeks ago on tv. And I thought, hilarious, because I used to be a job guy here. I started very low here, but after that, I decided, I'm gonna just go in on this, and my mania Gear, A lot of gold. Like, real.

[B]

Yeah, it was sick.

[A]

Real. A little bit of under the. Under the cow. Yeah, yeah, you gotta go, dude.

[C]

What was hardcore Holly like, seems like a cool dude.

[A]

Big Bob.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you have any bodybuilders in your. In your life?

[D]

No, this is just me.

[B]

Yeah, that's been juiced up for a while.

[A]

So he was the first guy who taught me how to train. But his life consisted of. One night I drove him from Jamestown, New York, to somewhere upstate New York in the middle of a blizzard. And we get to a red roof in at 7am Legit, barely. This has just been brutal. The Show's not till 7:30 the next day, and I asked him when he wanted to meet. And he's the old school guy who. They didn't just set times. They say, oh, call me when you wake up. That thing. Like, no, tell me the time. Yeah, because that's weird. All right. But he was like, I don't know. What is it, 7:30 now? Let's say meet at 10.

[B]

What, sleep for two hours.

[A]

What? And we'd work out, we'd eat. Then we'd have nothing to do. We'd eat again. He was just very much the first guy I met. That was one thing he did right by me. He taught me about, I guess, proper training and proper nutrition and took me to the gym. And as far as a tag team partner, he was one of the toughest guys in the locker room. So no one ever really messed with any of us. But then other nights, he'd scare me. I think he. Like one night I was in the shower and you know those soap caddies? The things you put a bar on a bar soap? I guess I was taking too long and he was getting frustrated with them anyways. And all of a sudden that soap caddy flew by my head and shattered against the shower wall at like a. A Mariano Rivera speed to the point where I hope he wasn't aiming for me, because that would have killed me. But no, he was. He. He has a very grumpy rep the time. I got nothing but respect for it because I needed that. I needed. I think that's why they put us together. Give him the most curan. I mean, his name is Hardcore Holly. Let's. Let's see how they do. He'd do one thing he did that would always be a lesson, but a tough lesson. Sometimes he did way cooler stuff than me in the ring. And then they'd build the big hot tag, we call it. The guy's getting beat up. He's getting beat up. He's getting beat up. Finally, the, the other team are going to power play style. Switch the odds here. And sometimes instead of him getting beat up to tag me in and give me this big glorious moment, he'd just grab a guy in a full nelson and pick him up and slam him, which is a full nelson slam, which is a finish basically. And then he just walk over and tag me like this. And I'd get in and like, oh,

[B]

punch drops coming and kick him while he's down.

[A]

And I was already like really plucky. So like, yeah, baby, this guy. So he, he was, was, he was the exact right person. Still friendly with him to, to this day. I think the exact right person I needed in my life. A wild one and. But never, never did anything crazy or unsafe because he's got a lot of weird stories. He was great by me, what I needed at the time.

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[D]

Wow.

[A]

K Pop Demon Hunters, Haja Boy's Breakfast Meal and Hunt Tricks Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a Battle. So glad the Saja boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day. It is an honor to share.

[B]

No, it's our honor.

[A]

It is our larger honor. No, really stop. You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side and participate in McDonald's while supplies last.

[D]

What is the training like then? Because you got like, it's almost probably similar to bodybuilding but then you probably have to do a lot of like, I don't know, like agility, balance, flexibility. So you don't just like jump off a thing and rip everything.

[A]

Today it's the way NXT operates, which is our developmental system, the performance center. I, I won't, I like how I came up. Which was a different system. I came up, I went to OVW where you got with like minded people. You'd sit there and watch wrestling. This is before the network. It was WWE on Demand. It was like 7 9, like on the cable package. You could watch MSG network shows and stuff like that. I got around people who liked wrestling. I'd go to the gym, they'd, that was it. If you liked it, you'd click. Today it's all, they've got it all mapped out really well. They've got exactly what you mentioned. They've got agility, they've got multiple rings, including one that has a, an extra layer of pad and bounce if you're going to try big high spots. They've got Shawn Michaels again we're talking about probably the greatest in the ring ever. So that's your head coach. How could you not be good? The system they have down, down there with the performance center now is designed for the nil athlete because they're used to it. I came from baseball, I came from football, I came from gymnastics. So they need all that. They need a room that's recovery suite. They need a full blown weight room, which they have. They need all that. When I came up, you were just doing it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yourself, which I liked because you found like minded people. I remember my whole class of coming up from ovw, but the system now, it's a lot healthier. Yeah, a lot healthier to get everybody ready. But the bodybuilding aspect of it because since 2007 they've. The wellness policy is there. So the bodybuilding aspect of it, There's a couple OGs still who treat it that way. For the most part it's, it's all shapes and sizes again.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Little 80, 70 style where not everyone is shredded to the gills and not moving. There's a lot of, I guess, better athletes, I suppose. Yeah.

[B]

There's less juicing.

[A]

I would try to put it in

[B]

because those boys were flying. Old wrestling, you nailed it. See, old wrestlers, these. You guys sprint that, like, Ultimate Warrior. I'm not saying he was. Well, he probably definitely was. But see him just sprint out of the tunnel. You're like, this guy's the highest guy I've ever seen in my life, dude.

[A]

They.

[D]

It's kind of awesome, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's this crazy clip of Road Warrior Hawk, I think running. This is pre wwe, but talking about that type of energy and flowing through the veins.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

He's running out in a studio TV show. So his distance he needs to move is about 10ft to the ring. And then he's going to have to turn to face the little studio camera. Forget if he was saving my dad or if they were saving somebody, but he's running with such everything that he jumps the top rope, nearly hangs himself. The rope gets. And then he's able, as strong as a bull. And the adrenaline and speed. Yank his head out, save the. The fall. So he never falls. He jumps over the top rope where his head gets fallen, but he never loses feet. But then he's. You know when you're falling and you need something to catch, he catches himself on the top rope where they're all like this. Anyways, like, looking at the heels. Come on. What the. Like, you know, the conversation after had to be like, what the. He nearly died. Just run in.

[B]

Like when Ric Flair, when he. He's old, but when he, like, runs into the turnbuckle knuckle and, like, bounces off of it. Oh, yeah, he's just flying, I think.

[A]

Nature boy, if you were to shoot him in today. Yeah, he could flip upside down. He's. He's. He's got it.

[B]

What about the Shock Master? You think he was a little juiced on? Well, you might have been juiced on.

[A]

That Shockmaster's connected to my family. I don't know if.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[A]

So he's no longer married to my Aunt Bobby, but that was my Uncle Fred.

[D]

What?

[A]

And my dad. I'm trying to word this nicely because, I don't know, I was a kid. Seems like my dad was trying to help Fred out.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And seemed like he was trying to give him a role. He had great run at WWE as Typhoon and Tugboat. So the Shockmaster was the role. I don't like to dis. It doesn't seem like, the idea was that.

[B]

Well, it was a stormtrooper mask. It was a bedazzled. Bedazzled Stormtrooper.

[A]

Stormtrooper helmet that Janie spray painted silver spray paint on it. But the story. The story I've heard is that it wasn't Fred's fault. Because before, when they did flare for a gold the He. This guy ends up falling. As he busts through a wall, his helmet falls off and it's. He's. The whole thing's dead in the water right that moment. The best part about that is Sid, who's going to WWE's hall of Fame right now, is still trying to hang on to it. Most people in that group are like this, this ain't good. We got to get out of here. We can't just go. Well, cut. You know, it's alive, always with us. But Sid's going, who is that? He's trying to stay in. But the thing that Fred told everybody is there was a board. A guy named Jackie Crockett, who was a cameraman, he put that board there to just make sure the flare for the goal, because it was just a three wall set doesn't fall. That board apparently was not there earlier in the day, and that board is what did it. I don't know any way which this ever would have worked. Say he emerges through the wall in his storm his fur vest.

[B]

I'm the shock master.

[A]

And Oie Anderson, who's doing his voice from somewhere else.

[B]

So he's like. He's like, yeah, it's not him talking. He's like lip syncing like he's talking. It's so crazy.

[A]

But okay, so this happens and it's funny to the entire wrestling world. Some stuff is so bad it's funny. We call it a monitor sellout, where it's just, oh, my God, it's gone so bad. Looking like, let's stay. But I had a very interesting ride home because my dad was mortified. And I'm pretty sure he thought he was gonna be fired by Ted Turner and tbs. My uncle was not gonna make it in that role. That wasn't gonna. So we just drove home from wherever that was in dead silence. Like the Lost, the games, like that type of. So all we ever talked about was wrestling and how cool that was, but I knew it's bombing.

[C]

We do.

[B]

We do this. Yeah, yeah, you bomb. You get in the car with everyone, drive home silently.

[D]

Yeah, the bit. The bit didn't work out. Someone says one thing like, dude, shut the up.

[A]

Seriously, that's a bad drive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And there's always the one guy that's trying to be like, let's go to Taco Mac or something. No, man. Like, yeah, my friends.

[B]

Yeah, we have a. This. I'm thinking of the mashup. Oh, it's the funniest bomb ever. My two friends went on stage together, and just the crowd hated them. And then we get in the car, and we're driving back to our place, and it's just dead silent. And then finally, it's like, you guys suck. And then they were like, okay, all right. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Yeah, we suck. And then after, like, an hour of me making fun of him, the one dude just lost his mind, tried to fight me.

[A]

Oh, no.

[D]

There. We had a chair. Is that. We had, like, a house with, like, five of us. There's one chair. We'd all play video games if you bomb me. Like, dude, you got to sit in the bomb chair. You bomb tonight. You got to take the bomb chair. He kept bringing up the mashup.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And he stood up fully, like, fight me right now. I can't.

[B]

I thought he was joking, too. He, like, went in the kitchen. He was like, are you. So I got in his face, joking. I was like. And then I realized he was serious. I was like, oh, he might. He might murder me.

[A]

Do you feel it's important, though, the passion in terms of when you bomb or have that moment? You need to have that bad night, right?

[B]

Yeah, for sure. But I would never again. I don't know why I would say never. I've spazzed on so many people after I bombed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I think you need that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

It's embarrassing, though, when you. If you bomb and then you get mad at somebody else.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You gotta be mad at yourself.

[D]

Yeah. I almost. I almost threw a can of liquid death just the other night. I flubbed the last, like, two words of my closer. I just, like, up the clothes and flubbed the words, and I was like, all right. Yeah, you guys got the idea. I'm out of here. Sorry about that. And I walked backstage, and I was getting, like, ready just to hurl a full liquid death, and I saw a camera above me. I'm like, yeah, maybe I'll just chill.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So I just squeezed it privately. I put against my chest and squeezed it.

[B]

I saw, like, right before you took a break from stand up, I. You got off stage at helium, and I was on the other side of the door, and I was just like. Like, oh, that sucked. Be like, oh, never mind. Normally if you bomb, you can. Yeah, just be like, laugh it off. But every once in a while, you'll see someone, like, fully like, no, dude.

[D]

The worst. We did a comedy contest in New

[B]

Jersey that was sick.

[D]

And I. I had like an okay set and I remember the guy came up after me and was just like, yeah, this guy started like trashing me. And I was watching it. I was like.

[B]

He was sitting next to me and he was.

[D]

Shane's laughing. I'm like, it's not funny.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And then it was. I. I chilled out for sure. But I remember he was done. He was with his girlfriend. I like, walked up to him. It's just like hours later. Walked up to him, like, oh, it was pretty funny, man. He was like, okay. And I was like, no, seriously, ever do that again. I like, pulled him in. I'm like, never do that again. I'll kill you.

[B]

I swear to God.

[D]

He's like, dude, relax.

[A]

I'm just kidding.

[D]

He was right. I'm just being a spaz.

[B]

But yeah, it's okay.

[A]

As far as, like wrestling promos go and the last lines being flubbed, that's one of the worst feelings ever. When you think you've got some hot ammunition and then you come back and realize, didn't get. I got 60 of that. Yeah. And it didn't land. It also, you feel like it's everybody else's fault because. Or at least I. You go out there and it's live. So there's the camera there and there's all these other elements. I'll tell you a crazy one that people never take into account. Now on my bus, every now and then I'll try and do this, but the amount of stuff, physical stuff sometimes in wrestling. So you're just sitting there, you're talking. I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say this. Then you realize, like, I gotta. I'm gonna have the title and. And the mic and then I might have the glasses on. You think of all these other elements. And I always. Those are where I usually go to blame. Like, that's right. Yeah.

[B]

You'll know.

[A]

There was one promo I did where I laid the title in front of me and I just told the cameraman, I said, shoot up. Like, it's a big dramatic shot. I can't around with this thing right now. Like, I. It's so much, much. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I blame everything else.

[A]

Blame everything else.

[B]

Crowd sensitive, whatever. No matter what, I got a guy before me sucked.

[A]

When's the last time that that you felt you bombed.

[B]

It happens a lot. I bombed on Friday at the United center in Chicago.

[A]

Big building.

[B]

It was huge. The biggest. Big money. Literally the biggest arena. And that was actually. Sounds fault. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So it was acoustic.

[B]

Acoustically, it was terrible. We fixed it. They. They were adjusting it the entire time during my set.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Took like, 25 minutes into my set. They started to fix it.

[A]

Did you feel that. Are you. Your own biggest critic, that you bombed by your standards, or did you feel you really.

[D]

It probably wasn't a true.

[B]

It wasn't a true. It was fine. The show was fine. But there was definitely, like, sections of people that could barely hear it. So then you're like, damn, those people wasted their money.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that's.

[B]

And, like, you feel. Oh, terrible about that.

[A]

You're a real. You're. You're a real one.

[B]

Well, that's.

[A]

Well, the consumer experience is everything. I feel like the longer you go in any type of entertainment, I like being around people who care because a lot. Like a lot of young wrestlers, for example, they're just. Just want to body slam him, and then he kicks me up and we go. They're thinking very much about the two of them. Yeah. And then I think, especially if they go on before Raw or Smackdown there, I'm thinking there was 12,000 people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They were. They didn't mind what you did, but you could have brought them in.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Involved him. Could have, like, get him going. Get excited. We're about to go on air.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Versus, do kind of your own performance.

[B]

The first true. I did the first arena I ever did. I was always like, I'm not gonna use, like, fog machines and lights. And, like, I'm like, that's all corny. I just. It was the worst decision of all time.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

I just stood on it in a stage, and I was like, we gotta get some lights and we gotta spruce this up. Yeah. Because I'd see other comedians doing. I'd be like, losers. Yeah. And then you kind of have to.

[A]

That's kind of the George Strait in the country music world. Just stands in the center of the stage.

[B]

Yeah. It turns out I'm not George Straight,

[A]

so I feel like a lot of people have the turns out I'm not George straight moment where it's like, you know what? Yeah, load it up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I'm good.

[B]

Mine was night one, and then night two. I was like, all right, we gotta get, like, some fog or something. They got one tiny, like, mall fog machine. It was, like, a hundred yards away. From me. There was just, like, steam coming out of the side. Bombed again.

[A]

I was like, that's a work in progress.

[B]

Yeah, we're figuring it out.

[D]

Yeah, that's too big of a space just to come out to and be like, walk.

[B]

Walk out quietly.

[D]

Yeah, everyone's waiting for you.

[B]

Crazy.

[D]

That's so funny.

[B]

Yeah, it was bad.

[D]

I did. I used to think it would be funny to come out on stage to ambient music. Like the stuff you fall asleep to. Yeah, I tried it once, and I

[B]

was just like, I'm so choices. So whole. Pick songs to walk out to because it's funny. And the idea of it's funny, like, what if I walk out to, like, flute EDM of dubstep? And then every time Matt walks out at one of my shows, I'm like, who picked. What is this? Turn this the off. It also plays for three seconds. It just blasts that garbage.

[A]

Doesn't even play long enough for it to land.

[B]

Doesn't land. Play long enough.

[D]

And I also run. You never acknowledge it.

[B]

You never even go, that was funny. He just started. He's like, hey, how's everybody doing? This guy's out of his mind.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It's like,

[B]

yeah. What's the song? You got the song.

[D]

I know exactly what it is. I can play it right now. Dude, this is a song.

[C]

How did you come up with your theme song?

[A]

Damn, come that song. Well, speaking of him coming out to land songs that may not land.

[B]

You gotta hear this. Hit it.

[D]

I got a good one right here. Where is this? I think it's. Is it this one? Oh, here it is. I found it. No, no, no, it's not.

[B]

That sound pretty similar.

[D]

It's.

[B]

No, that's right. I am excited.

[A]

I'm worried that there's such a long.

[D]

Here we go. Let me skip ahead a little bit.

[B]

It's good. It's a good wrestling walkout, actually. Six seconds. Oh, all right.

[A]

Yeah. I worry, though. I worry, though.

[B]

This crazy.

[A]

The song doesn't really tell us anything about you. Right.

[D]

Other than I privately think that's funny to come out of that.

[A]

Cuz to your. To your question. The trick with a wrestling song, all the greatest wrestling music. It doesn't need to be a good song. It needs to be a catchy song. Jimmy Hart, the mouth of the south, the manager for Hogan. He was making all that great 90s content music that ended up being everyone's favorite. It was catchy. I like Kingdom, the song I come out to. But. And I actually think it's. Those guys are Great. Downstate's great. It's great song. It's done amazing things. It's the only walkout song I think WWWE has that WWE doesn't own, which I don't know how we feel about that. But the issue is I hear it so much that especially at the end of the night, if I'm doing the rounds and I'm staying and they're just playing that one song, it. It gets you.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And I heard my daughter the other day, she doesn't know the words, but she was saying the cr. Like something. She put paw patrol in it all of a sudden. It's very. It's very. You can. I've. I've heard people do the something something Cody Rhodes, which is just kind of the appropriate way to sing it and whatnot. As long as you get to the. Whoa.

[B]

What do they say? What do they say?

[A]

Well, yeah, the way nobody seems to know the words, but they just. There's one part. They're like something, something Cody Rhodes. And it's. If you think of it that way, it's. It's a pretty. It's a pretty interesting song by WWE standards too. It's got my voice, which I recorded on Generation 1 iMac when I first left WWE because I took this song on the road with me. That's one of the things why WWE doesn't own it. I took it when I went and did Independence and started. Basically started myself back over to eventually come back to wwe. But I. I can say this. It can never change. Unless I was to go, you know, bad guy. Then that song is out, I suppose. But that's the other thing. I'm locked into it. We're married together, that song and I.

[D]

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[B]

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[D]

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[B]

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[D]

Yeah. Like I was dressed soft enough that

[B]

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[D]

That's the thing. But then it goes away. I was just so conflicted because I was like, am I borderline. Am I like that one politician's husband? If you know I'm talking about.

[B]

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[D]

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[B]

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[D]

What the. Did you say that?

[B]

I guess these guys are edgy as hell. Starting with these things called the deal maker. It's basically a full on Jean swap. Same look, but breathable, stretchy and actually comfortable. No stiffness, no weird breaking in, period. None of that.

[D]

Like a good gene swap.

[B]

I love a Jean swap. And then there's the game changer. Slacks made out of sweatshirt.

[A]

What?

[B]

You ever think about it? Seems impossible, but it's super soft. There's tons of stretch and they still look sharp as hell.

[D]

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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[D]

Let's go, guys. 4:17. Please come to the Celebrity Theater, Phoenix, Arizona. It's in the damn round right now. I'm about to be in the U. I need you guys to complete the circle. So I'm not just in the U. I'll be. Otherwise I'll be a pendulum. I'll just go back and forth. I need a come to get that orbital velocity. So please come to the celebrity theater and Then after that, the celebrity theater is not looking bad. I've hoped for that. Tucson, Arizona. What the Did I ever do to you guys?

[B]

Yeah, what's your problem?

[D]

Come out to Tucson. Come on, guys. It'll be fun. The Rialto Theater.

[B]

The Roadrunners.

[D]

Yeah, man. Hell yeah. The Toronto. You guys keep doing what you're doing. That's going to be great. Riviera Theater, Chicago. May or. Yeah, May 16th. And that's. That'll be fun as well. It's just goddamn Phoenix, Tucson. Kicking my ass right now.

[B]

We'll figure it out.

[D]

We'll get him.

[B]

My word. We'll find her.

[C]

I was a big smoke American guy. Like the action. Cody Rhodes. Yeah.

[B]

Speaking of bad guys, what's going on with that prick Pat McAfee?

[D]

Yeah, what the hell.

[C]

Yeah, what the hell, dude.

[B]

What a prick. How well.

[A]

How well do you know?

[B]

I know him pretty well. Yeah, he's a jerk.

[A]

Let me see what I can. Let me see.

[B]

I'd like to stomp him in Las Vegas. WrestleMania. I'm going to beat the. The out of Pat MC.

[D]

That would honestly be awesome.

[B]

I actually have to open the Straight of Hormuz again, though.

[D]

Oh, chat.

[B]

They closed it, so I can't go to Vegas.

[A]

I. I've been. I've been told that some of the people in his. His orbit, his circle think he's the next Sylvester Stallone in terms of tv, film. I don't know if I'm getting that from what I've watched. I have very limited knowledge on Pat other than I love me some college game day.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He is very good on college game day.

[B]

We'll say. I know you don't want to hear this. He's the man, dude.

[D]

Yeah, I. I love that.

[A]

I would say. I. I'm glad. I'm glad. There are people who like to pitch themselves in these WrestleMania and these big moments. I am flattered.

[B]

Yeah. He wants to be a part of it.

[A]

I'm flattered. Yeah, that's his. That's his lemaire. You shaking your head? No.

[D]

What was.

[B]

Have you turned on Pat?

[A]

Have you turned on Pat? This is a Pat Friendly house, right?

[C]

I haven't turned on Pat, but like, to, like, you know, like. It doesn't make any sense.

[B]

Talk your dude.

[C]

Yeah, talk it like.

[A]

Yeah, talk it, because I'm not. I'm just gonna do the Mariah Carey answer moving forward. I don't know him him.

[C]

There's, like, no tough punters. Like, you know, what's the.

[A]

I'll say this all right. Because he kicked me in like below the belt here.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That was an NFL punter that. That. That might be, though. You want to stay away from those legs.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

That might be it. Yeah. This is the first time I've been. Been asked about him, and I think henceforth I'm just going with the Mariah Carey, I don't know him. Him response. Even though I might.

[D]

What was the nature of the betrayal? What exactly happened?

[A]

Oh, man.

[D]

What do you do? I.

[A]

Let's see how we could explain Randy Orton, who I'm wrestling at WrestleMania. We have like almost two decades of history between each other. He was my mentor. I had Cena, who I drove around. I had Randy. Very different opinions, but also really helped shape me. We were on screen together as part of his group legacy. He had my dad's last men match. My first match in the companies is Randy. There was a lot of rich story material. And then we inserted Pat McAfee and that's. We are literally in that part right there.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So your question. Is everybody else's question true.

[B]

And that was this guy even doing here?

[A]

I. Yeah, no, you know, like the. The troop all outside and there's that clown. Right. I'm not saying he's like the clown in that regards. It just. It's an interesting fit. And we're gonna see. We're gonna see. We're gonna see where it goes.

[B]

You're saying he's not a serious person?

[A]

No, I don't. I think he seems like you can't have that much success and be ground up like he is without being a serious person. And having been to the Thunderdome and for sure, there's. What I would say is right now, what I've seen is everyone around Pat McAfee, his orbit. Probably someone needs to say no every now and then. That seems. That seems like a dangerous group of. Of people to. You know, you need like, we were talking about Bob Holly earlier, man, you need that one guy in the room to be like, I don't know, man. Jumping into the WrestleMania main event. Also, while I was getting my ass kicked in the ring the other night, looking up and he's wearing shades. Like, he put the shades on to go out there. It's a different era of wrestling. It was like watching a guy at a bar do like a stone cold impression or like. And here's. Here's the thing. And I'm really trying to. I'm just gonna stick with the. I don't know him, but this is My as is, I heard him again getting my ass kicked. I heard him talk about the attitude era, and I'm thinking, oh, man, I don't think he knows. Almost 30 years ago, almost. So love it. And it was the most prolific era in the business until the last four years.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So if you're part of the last four years, you kind of feel like, why are we talking about this? You know what I'm saying? We're playing in this game. Why are we talking about this? And. Yeah, no, I'll stick with the official, though. I don't know him. Yeah.

[B]

Damn, dude.

[D]

Should be interesting.

[A]

Oh, that's the best part about it.

[D]

I.

[A]

It's very interesting. WrestleMania and something that modern wrestling fans and more. What I mean is younger fans who didn't watch WrestleMania 1 or 2. The original WrestleMania was built on the celebrity interaction, like Mr. T, Hogan, Liberace, everything there, you know, you know, Wendy Richter, everything. Like Mike Tyson in the. You know, when. WrestleMania with him and with Sean and stuff. Steve. So there's always that element now, Pat is there.

[D]

There was that in the ring.

[A]

He's. He's in it.

[B]

He's this. He's the new Liberace, is what you're saying.

[A]

In that list of celebrities who come to the first WrestleMania. Muhammad Ali, Mr. T, Wendy Richter, and Liberace. You decide where Pat falls on the.

[D]

On the.

[A]

On the list, you decide, you know.

[D]

Well, there's that.

[B]

Yeah. I was watching the. I just saw an Instagram reel of when Mayweather was on, when he punched Big Show. I watched that live and I was like, he really punched him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then them talking about it was pretty sick.

[A]

Also, I think show the Big Show. They had a nice agreement between each other that when wrestling's done right, the best thing ever is when you can just have a little bit of doubt on. Seems like those guys do hate each other. Seems like. And we have a lot of that in both main events this year. There's a lot of sincerity to the suspension of disbelief.

[B]

I just believed you.

[A]

Yeah, well, I tried very hard to navigate. So now I'm sitting here, I feel bad.

[B]

No, dude, I'm turning on pat.

[D]

Dude, it's WrestleMania. Yeah, it's WrestleMania too.

[B]

Pat backstabbed me on college game day judging.

[A]

Oh, bro, you got.

[B]

He told me Nick Saban loved joking around

[C]

here.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We got done. He was still going. He was like, dude, go talk to him. There's no way he was serious. I was like, I think he was serious.

[A]

Yeah, you bit well, so he's such a serious guy. Saving I the crazy thing from my game day experience. Did you have notes when you did yours?

[B]

No.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

I didn't know what was going on.

[A]

You just went it. Well, you know college football.

[B]

I had a couple drinks. I had a couple drinks during the day too. It was a night game. It was a no name playoff game at night. Dude, I was. Matt got on there. Matt kicked a field goal. It was a nice one.

[D]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

It's such a great show. I went on and I had the night before. Kind of like a set had been thinking of there's. Because there's some teams I don't know. I don't know about Kansas State, but I want to be able to make my picks. And I'm in Athens and I go up there and I got the title and I got the fanatics other UGA title they're making me bring up there. So I didn't have notes. I sat down next to coach Lee. I sat down and he looked at me and just went, no notes, huh? And I thought, oh man.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, dude.

[A]

No, no, no. Could I have notes? I would have not been able to memorize who won this award because some of those teams are. I'm not watching.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I'm an SEC guy mainly for the most part. That's where I was at. But I loved game day love.

[B]

Yeah, it's awesome.

[A]

You did great on game.

[B]

Thanks. Yeah, I like to replicate it.

[A]

The rivalry is great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

On that show. It's real.

[D]

That was so funny. You also have a deep knowledge of all like the teams and stuff. I, I wouldn't. I'd be tough. They would sniff me out pretty quickly, I think.

[A]

Do you ever. Do you ever listen to a Saban or a Kirby locker room speech to get yourself fired up?

[B]

Those are sick. Those are pretty awesome.

[A]

I have found myself listening to Kirby talk to a bunch of college kids like they're going to war.

[B]

Yeah, it's awesome.

[A]

And I didn't realize the amount of F bombs in a college like Kirby Speeches get me. That's a regular little treadmill.

[B]

Listen, Freeman got one at Notre Dame's coach got one. It was halftime in Notre Dame. Penn State, I think it was 10 nothing. 10, three. And he was like, it's just a fight. Go out and fight.

[A]

Yeah. You gotta do this final man.

[B]

Lou Holta is my favorite one. It was right before. It was no day Miami. Yeah. They got in a fight in the tunnel.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

And all the players are like. Because Coach Holtz Was like a very serious. Like they're like, we're gonna. He's gonna yell at us for fighting. He's like, I just got one thing to say. You leave Jimmy Johnson's ass for me.

[A]

Oh yeah. RIP is this Catholic convicts area of. Oh, gosh. What a. You seen that?

[B]

Yeah. It was that game. It was that game.

[A]

Yeah. That's. That was as real as it gets.

[B]

That's fun.

[A]

Oh yeah. All on the line.

[B]

You know what I'll say about the Miami fans, they. They love the whole where the bad guys thing. Yeah. You call them convicts once and they're all like, that's me. I thought you guys were Catholic. Shut up.

[A]

Well, I think also this November 7th,

[B]

we're going for you, Miami. You're coming to South Bend.

[A]

I think the sensitivity of that arrow is a little different though in terms of what was on tv. Also the way they presented both teams. Yeah.

[B]

Well, the way the teams present themselves. Also Miami's scoring touchdowns probably helmet off and spiking it on a guy.

[A]

Probably a good character question to find out where you stood during the Catholics convicts side of football.

[B]

I know exactly where I stand, dude. I like my roster not getting arrested constantly. I mean, what are we talking about?

[A]

That's why my. That's why my dad loved you.

[B]

But I see why you like the Bulldogs.

[A]

Oh, them dogs, bro. They're the best.

[B]

They're pretty good. Other than that Sugar bowl. That was fun.

[A]

But also as far as a team to root for.

[B]

It's a good team.

[A]

You're consistently. You're winning home games.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Between the. Between the hedges. UG is still on the field rules. He's the best always.

[B]

Lamar's gonna be uggo 15.

[A]

I like every time they bring Uga around another mascot or try to one thing, you know the bulldog, man, you like it.

[B]

Beo. Beo attacked Oga. That was nice.

[A]

Every time someone's like, I think it's a good idea. Let's just get.

[B]

Let's get a dog. Why would you put the.

[A]

A full blown steer and this bulldog are going to do well together, you know. Oh, I love them dogs.

[B]

And a dog biting people sometimes. That's nice.

[A]

Well, that great picture I think is like a five in the Auburn game.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's the type of run through brick wall stuff. If our dog is getting into this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's nice we're fighting, you know. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I think my niece is going to uga.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Yeah. That's big.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

I'm Excited. Yeah, the Dogs. Good team. My mom's a big Notre Dame fan.

[B]

She's. Yeah, she's a saint.

[A]

Yeah, she.

[B]

She.

[A]

Yeah, she'd be happy to hear that.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

She understands your struggle.

[A]

Because we don't get it. Because here's.

[B]

Why don't you get this?

[A]

So her era of growing up. Notre Dame. It's Notre Dame. That's all you have to say. Touchdown, Jesus. It's Notre Dame. Right. However, we don't know anyone who went there anymore. We don't have any connection to it.

[D]

That doesn't stop.

[A]

And multiple children have gone to other major universities, and it's still. I'm going to the Notre Dame game with my sister.

[E]

Who.

[A]

Who do you know?

[B]

Like, you got to get out there.

[A]

That's their thing.

[B]

Once you see it, you go, oh, I get it.

[A]

Oh, does it get you?

[B]

Yeah, you'll get it.

[A]

Yeah, it gets you.

[B]

You'll get it.

[A]

Fair enough. It's one of the greater franchise. I'm franchise greatest institutions of all time. Him. If not top five.

[B]

Top five's crazy. Top five now since Bama went on that run with saving now no names

[A]

too, and Bama being one.

[B]

Bama's now number one. Where would you put uj recently, they. They made a good run because before that I think they had one title since like 1980.

[A]

Yeah. And then they had.

[B]

But now they've. Yeah, they're up there for sure.

[A]

What about Texas?

[B]

Not really.

[A]

You're living here, man.

[B]

I still like Texas.

[A]

They're great, though.

[B]

They're. The Longhorns are fun, but baby, they're not. You can't put them up there with. They're not even above Oklahoma. Oh, all time, though. Just blue blood wise wrestling.

[A]

Famous wrestling announcer Jim Ross is watching this now. Yeah, he's still like, Oh, man.

[B]

No, Texas is right there.

[A]

I. I think I sent you a text about this. I don't know. I think I saw you talk about it one time and I was telling myself, I was like, I have to ask him about it. Is Ken Burns.

[B]

Civil War rocks.

[A]

I live for Ken Burns and it. Have you seen it?

[D]

I haven't seen it. Now.

[B]

It's 47 hours long.

[D]

Yeah, I heard it's long as hell. I haven't been able to commit to it.

[A]

There's no video.

[B]

I've watched it.

[D]

Yeah, Just pictures.

[A]

Just standing.

[B]

I watched it eight times. I don't think I've gotten to Gettysburg. I watched the first five hours of this thing.

[D]

That's still really good.

[B]

It's great.

[D]

That's awesome.

[A]

I got the, the part of Guile in Street Fighter coming up.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[A]

And I'm thinking like, oh, I just want to get as American. Yeah, you can get. Right. And deep dive into, you know, military history. All stuff I already like.

[B]

Yeah, clearly.

[A]

Already very, very much like. But I was just diving in and for whatever reason, I got stuck on Kinburn Civil War. And I was just fine with that.

[B]

Yeah, it's incredible.

[A]

So it's incredible.

[D]

It's so funny to watch that. Prepare for Guiles. I got a knowledge of what's.

[A]

What it's

[B]

thinking about Pickett's Charge.

[A]

Boom. This is what it took to get,

[B]

you know, true on that.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

Andrew Schultz on that. Phenomenal. Yeah, he's the man.

[A]

Oh, and genuinely phenomenal. Yeah, I think people will be because they have Noah, Centineo, Kalina and Koji. The three leads, Chun Li, Ryu and Ken are killing it. They, they, they knew their stuff. They were ready. They were pros, pros. And I think they put 50 Cent and Schultz and me, and we got to come in, float in. And the way Schultz is in the movie really blew me away because I got to see him both making people laugh hysterically and then also a couple sincere moments. He's special one. Yeah, he's really special one. Yeah. He told me he'd help me against McAfee. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, some jokes.

[A]

And then Schultz also has started, I think single handedly Schultz started a Mortal Kombat versus Street Fighters, all that. And everyone, I think, on stage thought like the same thing. Okay, we'll back him because that's our guy. But like, you know, like. Yeah, I don't know how far. I think it's only gonna get worse. Like, Schultz is ready for a fight, but also, like, I don't know. I was saying, he's like my tag partner. I'm in. Yeah, we got his back. Great guy. I wish he had jumped in the ring with his shades on. Talking about the attitude era.

[D]

True.

[A]

While I was laying there confused, you know, but yeah, no, I know him.

[B]

Yeah, true.

[D]

This other guy.

[B]

McAfee's a freaking punk. I can't wait for this all to get settled.

[A]

Is this your wrestler? Go to this right here.

[B]

Have you, Hulk Hogan? We're coming from you.

[A]

Have you. Do you know when you do, when you do media and stuff for, for your shows, do people ever ask you, hey, do something funny for them all the time. Okay. And what do you have a bit.

[B]

No, I Say, no, I don't, do I?

[A]

Dude, I tell everyone because some people when they don't know wrestling, and I totally understand how great the 80s were. And I get it. I loved it myself. But that is a common. Hey, man, why don't you just cut a quick little promo?

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

And that's what they want. And I usually it's. It's so soft and just almost. I'd say, I. You can see in their eyes.

[B]

Oh, that's what. That's not what I want.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I thought you were gonna like, say, let me tell you something, brother. You know, like, bro, it's 7:00am, I'm in a suit and it's. It's 20, 26, you know, like, I can just tell you this other stuff. But then also in my mind, I leave like, well, I should have something. Yeah, I should have a thing. Like when I met Bert Kreischer. Bert's more of a wrestler than half the pro wrestlers. He's like, ready for that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I, I now try to have one ready. But then I then just always try and tell them. Let's just avoid.

[B]

Before we, before we get out of here, because I think you actually have to go. Yeah. Could you cut one for us, Lamar?

[A]

Yeah, sure.

[B]

Lamar, please cut a Wrestlemania. He needs you to cut one.

[D]

I need it.

[B]

Get in front of the camera. Get in front of the camera.

[D]

Message Send Pat McAfee a message right now. Get yo camera, bro.

[A]

I'll set you up. This guy came for us.

[D]

Yeah, bro.

[A]

He inserted himself into WrestleMania. That's your turf, Lemaire.

[D]

The belt was in your pool house.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Honor it that they the time.

[B]

Grab the Notre Dame.

[D]

Hit the bell, bro.

[B]

Get the Notre Dame belt for this.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Don't even mess around.

[B]

Yes. Feel the strength of it.

[A]

Yeah. Feel that. Yeah. Coach lose in there. Oh, yeah,

[C]

right.

[B]

What's up, dude? What's the date? When's WrestleMania?

[A]

1819.

[C]

Yeah. Pat mcafee, you dare say that the wrestling industry is the wrestling fandom, that the IWC stinks? Yeah, dude, this, this is the stuff that you're made of. This is where you're from. Without the iwc, you wouldn't even be on tv. You wouldn't be shit.

[A]

Keep going. The man, he wouldn't be

[C]

this WrestleMania. April 18th. April 19th. You and Randy Orton think you're going to take on the American Nightmare, Cody Rhodes, you think you're going to walk out unharmed?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You think you're going to walk out fully together? You think you're going to walk out

[B]

the same guys threatening life altering injuries.

[C]

No.

[B]

Come on, baby.

[C]

This guy right here, Cody Rhodes, the American Nightmare. The. The QB One of the wwe.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He rarely lets us down.

[B]

He won't let us do better talk than that.

[C]

He's.

[B]

He does pretty good for us.

[A]

What the.

[B]

Dude, that was great. Good job.

[C]

This guy.

[D]

Give me one.

[B]

Said he's got a pretty good winning percentage.

[C]

All right.

[A]

I think, unfortunately, you set it up where it's like, oh, man, he. He rarely lets us down. Basically like, hey, dude, there's no chance

[B]

he's gonna let us down.

[A]

Lair. I was happy. So you're coming to Mania, right? Yeah. You know Scott, he's gonna get into. Man, you gotta be there. After all that, watch out for Pat too. You gotta be there.

[D]

Can I before. Before you go, I have to do I have to say one more thing? We. So on the way here, I was doing a little research. I came across an interview, you and your wife. Brandy, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And I. There was just a point of. It made me laugh so hard where she introduced herself as the African American Nightmare. Yeah, and then you said it like the African American Nightmare. She's like, okay, don't say that. That interview is so funny.

[B]

It's not African American.

[A]

It's not mine. It's not mine to access.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I learn it more every day.

[D]

It's not.

[A]

So I. I referenced my nickname on tv, Raheem. And that was funny until I said it. And then now I. I live with it.

[B]

So.

[D]

Yeah, that interview is so funny.

[B]

You must have been like. Like, o. I'm keeping that. Yeah, no, see how that one goes for me?

[A]

It's not mine.

[D]

God, that was. That's really funny interview. Definitely watch, though.

[A]

I learn every day.

[B]

Yeah, it's good. You're growing. Yeah, you're learning. Lamar, thank you for the promo. That was incredible.

[A]

Great job, Lair. You're coming to WrestleMania, man. You got it. And Pat, he'd be scared of. He'd be scared running into you, man. You got him shaking, right? You got. You're holding the Notre Dame title. Friends of our friends at fanatics, you know, you feel in that energy.

[D]

It's pass. Move now.

[A]

Yeah, I do worry about Randy Orton. I think you could take Patty like a human horse, though. A thick, thick boy, you know?

[B]

So you got the mare. You're strong as hell, right? You're okay.

[C]

I don't know if I'm ready.

[D]

Orton strong. No, no, Pat. We're talking about you taking out Pat.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I can take that.

[B]

Pat would beat the hell out of you. I'm turning heel. I'm going back. All right, well, thank you very much.

[D]

Thank you, man.

[A]

Thank you so much.

[D]

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